Don’t criticize the Mormon church because that’s Jesus’ wife!

[@fanboy1986]

Time for Jesus to divorce his abusive spouse! 🤷‍♂

[@llpolluxll]

I got some "dignified dialogue" from oaks when he said people like me should be thrown in prison.

[@DrakonBlake]

Would you mind telling where that’s from please? A talk, or? I’d like to be able to possibly show it to some people and hear him say it myself

[@zelrex4657]

You can't criticize me!!! My dad is the creator of the universe!

[@stephe1506]

DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM? WAIT TIL MY FATHER HEARS ABOUT THIS 😂

[@caroljohns9430]

❤ WOW Samantha, I LOVE to hear you break this down! Fun Fact: You helped me become Mormon (your articles in LDS Living 2010) and this channel has helped me IMMENSELY as I was leaving. You are a Wordsmith and I appreciate you.

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

Whoah!!!! That’s wild 🙈💜💜💜

[@LongJourneys]

Every time I try to forget the Church exists, I get drawn back in because of something stupid.

[@aspenmgy]

"Keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth!" - Jesus

[@flockofone9214]

Underrated comment 😂😂😂❤

[@FUB654]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@monkmccool9795]

This comment is what A Internet was created for! 🧨💥❤️‍🔥

[@aspenmgy]

@@monkmccool9795 why thank you

[@robertgrey8648]

Spot on, Samantha!!!

[@hotdiggity8094]

Don't tell us to stop being mean to women, saying that is being mean to a woman (the church?)

[@P4Stalot]

Firstly, let's address that fact that your hair looks freaking amazing. But seriously, this was really well said. I love how you can put things into words that I can't.

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

Omg thank you 🥹💕

[@PrestoJacobson]

@@ZelphOntheShelf I too was mesmerized. 😅 I'm trying to be like you, Sam. (I'm following in your ways...no videos yet, but...) Hair is like days of work brushing, and such!

[@DmanRC]

In less than 4 minutes you took that load of crap about the “church” or Mrs. “Christ” and cleaned things up like a boss. Nice work Samantha 👍

[@michelleswapp7219]

Me putting on my monocle for some dignified dialouge about the church 🧐

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

It’s the only way!

[@Sparkling34]

the church can't be sexist it literally uses she/her pronouns

[@ristopherobbins]

I’m excited to see how Jeremy Reynolds’s feels about the dignified dialogue that happened when he asked some loving questions ❤

[@saoirse7167]

Wait… are you saying the first part ISN’T satire?!

[@jfschmidt84]

So if the church is Jesus’ wife why did he abandon her for 1800 years until a hornball dude named Joseph Smith turned up to save the day? 🤔

[@halpal87]

Indeed, no crumbs were left.

[@simplybet8104]

Omg I remember an evangelical pastor making this point in a sermon. "The church isn't perfect but you cant be mean to God's bride" okay but what if the bride enables abuse?

[@mortalLP]

It's a fascinatingly terrible metaphor. Like, even without a depth of knowledge of LDS/Mormon history, beliefs, and practices, it's still a truly awful metaphor. I mean, I don't think I can find a way to break it down that makes it make sense, *OR* that makes it support the stated thesis. It's exhausting and disappointing in its commitment to poor reasoning. And I think I'd have to watch his part again to *really* get into it, and I don't think my brain can tolerate such a thorough assault on sense and reason. The tragedy is that some people might be so distracted by tone, conditioning, or coping mechanisms that it might too strongly *resemble* social justice and/or righteous wisdom. So thank you for the breakdown!

[@kentthalman4459]

This is Mike's best attempt to stop thought.

[@spice-x]

Fantastic breakdown of the facts.

[@DirtmopAZ]

Mormons in Harrison Ford voice, “Hey! That’s my wife!” “Get away from my WIFE!”

[@tonelove666]

I like how you think! Brilliant.

[@finnjacobsen684]

How come a 2000-year-old corpse can stand beside anything?

[@PercivalFakeman]

That was some nice writing. 😊

[@debbiebuttars5598]

You. Are. The. Best. So intelligent and clear. Thanks.

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

🥹💜💜

[@jrojala]

The JW‘s have a great drawing “Jesus‘s wife” in the revelation “great climax”book; she’s such a babe. She’s got like blue-black hair and this flowy early 80’s look

[@waderobins07]

Like an "almost 15 year old" wife?

[@callumbrasher8048]

This is interesting, I'm in the process of leaving Mormonism and one of the questions I've had is "how can a person find what is really true on all sides without being deceived by their own confirmation bias"/ how can you find out what is true when your brain will always try to reconfirm that whatever story you're telling it is true. Leaving Mormonism is such a wild ride, I mean it's tough because there's so many good people in the church that just have no idea and of course because it's incredibly uncomfortable to try and face opinions or views that oppose your immediate or core beliefs (especially when those beliefs literally orchestrate your entire life and being) so many people would rather stay ignorant and comfortable rather than face what is infront of them and go through the pain to get to the otherside of what's true and what's right or wrong. At the moment I'm in this phase which says "even if the Mormon church is true, it doesn't feel right". I've thought about staying though I feel like I can't stay and keep my integrity together. The idea of staying feels both easy and difficult, easy because you'd be sweeping everything under the rug and you wouldn't have all the pain though difficult because you'd somehow have to throw so much more away, you'd almost have to throw yourself away if you wanted to stay after going through the pain of finding out how hurtful the actions of the leaders have been. Overall at the moment I feel it doesn't really matter whether it's true or not because right now it doesn't feel right, so I can't stay.

[@jlcl96]

Hey there, a couple of things were really helpful to me as I was deconstructing. One is a podcast by Brian McLaren that is all about identifying and dealing with the biases we have. It’s called Learning How to See Clearly. Another is a book by scientific journalist David McRaney. It’s called How Minds Change. Both helped me figure out how to navigate my way forward after losing the church framework for knowing how to be “good” or recognize what’s true. Good luck. It’s not an easy journey to deconstruct and rebuild from Mormonism, but you are definitely not alone.

[@FoursWithin]

Probably if a religion is built upon the foundation of another religion it's seriously suspect. And all the abrahamic religions are built upon other religions.

[@abigailrandall7520]

Jesus never said anything about withholding criticism from his bride the church. He did however say it was better to loose an appendage, or an eye and be crippled than to be dragged to hell by those seek to do evil.

[@alananat6628]

@@abigailrandall7520 And who gets to define evil? Those speaking out against crimes or injustices?

[@abigailrandall7520]

@@alananat6628 ummm… yes?

[@drbulbul]

Love this! Spot on!

[@bewitched3912]

Uttering fibs for Jesus's wife 😂

[@Emily-yr9hy]

Sam this was amazing. NO crumbs!!!

[@oceanmariep256]

Jesus and his three wives: the LDS, the FLDS, and the RLDS

[@ChrisFBartlett]

Great unpacking of this odd metaphor!

[@ericredd4544]

Is he also married to the corporation. And if so is that polygamy?

[@cindygreenwald1202]

Well, Catholics also think the RCChurch is his bride, so theres two right there.

[@flockofone9214]

Yeah, this guys rules don’t apply to me.

[@JChallis]

Damn. So well articulated 🔥

[@Miaka113]

I think you guys should link back to the original guy's video. I like being able to see the original video comments because it's a big trip for me to see how people who still believe respond to some of the stuff guys like mike come up with.

[@glenwillson5073]

Mormon church has nothing to do with Jesus in the slightest.

[@Ambermerith]

“No sorry, I can’t allow you to criticize my church, because jesus is my husband and he wouldn’t want you to say the truth about his wife. It’s me I’m the wife”

[@mslaerik66]

church .make me a sammich and bring me a beer

[@QuinnPrice]

Scratching my head. You do realize that you're in a cult, right?

[@flockofone9214]

I don’t think they know😮.

[@dragonrider2292]

Zelph is an ex Mormon channel

[@GeorgeDemetz]

He fulfilled ALL the commandments including to multiply and replenish the earth. He was married to "Mary, Martha, and others!!!

[@thehawkeyedone2188]

The Catholic Church is Christ’s Church.

[@rs72098]

They add books to the bible and follow a false gospel given by an angel. This is SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the bible in Galatians 1:8.

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

@@rs72098 that verse was written before the bible was even compiled so there’s no way it could be referencing the bible

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

in fact, under your interpretation, that verse would disqualify all the books that were afterward written and compiled in the bible.

[@alananat6628]

But...but...we hold the keys to the kingdom! You cant criticize me!

[@kentthalman4459]

Great monologue.

[@hanako4475]

Wut.... Well this is a new spin... 😂

[@TeethToothman]

What the fuck is even happening?

[@flockofone9214]

I know, right?!❤

[@andrewreed4216]

Chief midegah of the ojibwe nation and the birch bark scrolls. Also note an episode of how women are very important in their society. They are releasing thier information this year (some already) about christs visits to the America's. They have a patriarchal and matriarchal blessing

[@Kwitchbokim]

Cant believe i was in that church-businessship

[@brooke_reiverrose2949]

👏👏👏

[@kathleenwharton2139]

I am a Bride of Christ. Stop blaming and complaining. Simply be Grateful Jesus has shown you a better way. You are Safe and Free and Love and Peace. Be Grateful and help those unhappy. Many are happy. Leave them Be. You do not help by blaming and complaining and judging. 😊❤

[@Smooshes786]

Felt creepy hearing it as a child. Still creepy now. They are weird humans.

[@J-CBertrand-tp6bg]

And this guy is married literally to his dogma😂😂‼️#taxallreligions

[@DougDeYoung-gt4id]

So where is this mormon Jesus? Maybe he left her because he thought she was crazy? 🤣

[@nancy96701]

The Catholics made this claim first - 👰‍♂️

[@williamhaddock1838]

As Christ states in 3rd Nephi that 'The Church' is only his Church (The People) are only his 'If it so be that they are built upon my Gospel'. I would suggest that 'The Church' is so far removed from 'His Gospel' as to be unrecognizable to Him.

[@theresemartin7930]

Actually, I would say that the Mormon church is the red headed step sibling Jesus never talks about.

[@Deathhikeauntie]

That was creepy.

[@dr.bandito60]

What a ridiculous framework this man has created 😂

[@gregcrouse6988]

Pfffft…. Not even a side chick

[@chumark54]

This analogy is loaded with all kinds of problems, I wonder whether this dude has thought about what he was gonna say before he opened his mouth.

[@OSINT-MANAGEMENT]

But how can we know if the church is Jesus's wife if we don't have any proof that the church is correct other than faulty testimonies?

[@elynn7684]

That clip was odd. What was it from?

[@JeffreyStein-v9m]

Wife is a cheater and thief

[@MrFlyboy71]

So… the Jesus’ wife/church is like Ghislaine Maxwell I guess? 🤮 JC, bro, you can do better!

[@LoriZechmann-vc1tt]

I wanted to say so much... but it's best summed up with this: 🤮

[@LamaniteLiving]

His tie is worse than his take.

[@mappyman8271]

Did he not have multiple wives?

[@thatwifeofhis7815]

*corporation

[@devinhildebrandt2709]

What in the gish gallop, straw man response was this😭 this was pathetic to watch😆

[@tongatours]

That's not what your early church leaders meant, as much as you try to twist the meaning to avoid being full of crap your actually just adding more crap to your beliefs.

[@johncane4507]

If Jesus was real then most likely he was married and had kids 🤷‍♂️

[@stephenjackson7797]

So explain why women attend singles' wards at 2-1 to 6-1 rates if it's so bad to women.

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

@@stephenjackson7797 plenty of women uphold systems that belittle them, especially when they’ve been conditioned to be powerless and submissive to authoritative men.

[@Ambermerith]

Because y’all raise your daughters to hate themselves so they have to rely on the church for self-esteem and your sons to believe the world should be handed to them and they have no need for constant and meticulous self improvement

[@henkaistudio]

@@ZelphOntheShelfThe Jesus of Mormonism has three wives Mary and Martha and Mary Magdalene. While The Real Jesus does not at all.

[@uthinkiamhot]

So jesus is polygamist? How many christian churches does he "visit" at night?