❰ DON'T Double Down ❱ Mechabellum Matches

[@brooksbank97]

im loving the snappy editing and braindead plays, keep it up

[@samsprague3158]

I respect your ability to provide encouragement without sacrificing the standard of toxicity in youtube comments.

[@Yakamaru89]

A recommendation on Crawlers/Mustang spam: Do vertical positions for your Sledgehammers. With how the AI does targeting they will waste shots, and this is compensated with a vertical positioning as they cycle their guns instead of wasting shots. Doing this you can do upwards of 3 Crawler groups with a single Sledgehammer group, with HP and damage to spare.

[@Beaglerush]

Couldn't help but go and test this out right away, huh! It works exactly as you explained! Very clever use of the column feature to enforce ripple firing, I'll keep this in my toolbox from now on.

[@Sorain1]

Ohhh thanks for that, it'll make my life easier, and I love me some MBTs.

[@terpdx]

I've berated myself in the past for not taking my own advice, but this video takes the cake. Not only does he ignore his own advice 2 matches in a row, but ignores it in THE EXACT SAME WAY! 😁 "Today's video is sponsored by: Vulcan - when you know you shouldn't, but you want to do it, anyways." Happens to the best of us.

[@CaptainFrugo]

Looky looky at that upgrade ~ oh well, that's Beagle distracted from his initial good idea. It's Tygan and his snake oil all over again!

[@p0ot]

Thanks for showing your losses, subscribed to watch someone learn alongside me! The way you explain your thinking in the moment and afterwards is really helpful, cheers!

[@hosseruk]

I don't have any desire to play this game myself but I do find it very interesting to watch and I'm really enjoying these videos and your analysis - please keep them coming :)

[@LordSaric]

In the first game you were loosing the value war twice over, both because you kept borrowing from the next round and because the shields only help the round you buy them. You could have paid for 3-4 extra units or some tech upgrades that then help *every* round. The second game you again over invested in mines that again don't give continuous value. Also doubling down on the Overlords could have totally worked. When they countered your air you could counter with your *tech* pick. Phoenixes or marksman are countered by having your overlords spawn wasps to distract them. Mustangs or enemy wasps are pretty well countered by the auto-repair upgrade. You don't always need to use *units* to counter or diversify.

[@Quickeagle]

The instqnt level skill specialist missed combo makes me cry

[@znail4675]

I think both matches is a case of tilting as recycling the unit was an over reaction to making a mistake that only makes it worse. It was a far from useless unit. But apart from that so do I think the main mistake I see is over diversifying. It doesn't cost much to do that early on, but when you pay 200 to unlock a unit and another 2-300 to upgrade your only copy, then that is a lot to spend if you don't get something significantly new. The Sledgehammers did mostly what the Vulcan or Fortress do and had already the armor upgrade, getting more of them would have boosted the army quite a lot more cost effectively.

[@Beaglerush]

Agreed on both counts, I think in hindsight the Vulcan would have saved me pain in the first match against those high level crawlers.

[@EdicRoss]

Definitely have fell in love with this game. I can definitely understand how =intrusive thoughts= can make you trip over especially if you've been losing the early rounds, but I definitely think it's incredible that "win more" is not as prevalent as it usually is in this game.

[@Beaglerush]

Agreed.

[@saedimic]

Whenever you face the beagle, remember to bring whatever counters marksmen.

[@DtWolfwood]

the amount of head slapping watching this video, i have a red mark on my forehead.

[@Beaglerush]

you are totally welcome

[@pedalpusher2008]

Came for the Mechabellum match, stayed for the 30min pep talk. Thanks Beags

[@xCoNa14]

Ironically enough, what you needed was more stormcallers, as more will overwhelm the mustangs intercept quicker, as it becomes progressively worse at intercepting. The mistakes were trying to counter Fortresses with Fortresses, and putting those extra low level arclights in. You needed Overlords with ground cannon, or meltingpoints, and more stormcallers. Play economically to your current strengths and look to counter theirs.

[@PeterCraft1090]

Beagle just forgot about the iron fleet

[@Burningstrawman]

Great content! Really enjoying the vids :D Used to watch all the Xcom stuff back in the day too

[@Theblaaa123]

moving up stormcaller to instantly hit an enemy is a trap it might work for one round, but it's easily counterable and now your squishy arty is in a comromised position

[@ironboy3245]

I've found that marksman, fangs with range upgrades and sledgehammers is a really powerful combo

[@johnleorid]

Stormcallers: Am I a joke to you?

[@Theblaaa123]

always great to get out of your own bubble and see someone else's decisions you are really good at explaining your thought process on the fly i can't watch it right now but here's a comment for your algorithm ;)

[@BluishGnome]

Lol, second game in a row where you vulcan baited yourself 😂 These videos are really fun to watch

[@mrsing7465]

The golden age of Mechabellum has arrived!

[@reaverrip9965]

Im loving Beagle's BGM.

[@DreamingAboutDragons]

Stop going into so much debt when you're not dying, dude. Taking the L for a single round is OK, repeatedly going into debt because you're 50 credits short of something for several rounds in a row that you lose anyway is just handing your enemy the win. e: I don't want to sound too harsh, but it seems you just have a reflex to push that button whenever you're unsure what to do with your leftover cash and it's a bad habit.

[@Beaglerush]

Definitely got into a bad habit of debting too much in these two rounds. Debt can be addicting!

[@TheMoonlitFaerie]

I think this is dead on and beags approach comes from a good instinct - money now buys you an advantage that steamrolls etc - and it absolutely holds true in starcraft and so on which really dominates the videogame strategy theory. But winning a round in this game doesn't confer you any advantage. A player at 1hp is as dangerous as a player on 4200hp, with one key difference. They didn't just give away 600 resources trying to secure an advantage that isn't really there, and has set themselves up for future success.

[@Westonsammy]

It's so funny because on stream he constantly goes into debt and whenever we see him click that tower we all shout "NO DEBT" at him religiously xD. It's good to see KZbin pick up the habit too

[@GophTheGreat]

​@@TheMoonlitFaerie There actually is a tangible advantage to winning rounds: unit XP. Sweeping the opponent and keeping your power units on the board means they gain levels and your army's "value density" takes off hugely.

[@jonathantanner7083]

I wonder if Stormcallers with the range upgrade could have helped negate the fortress advantage?

[@Kelmort]

to be honest, i though his placement was shit. you do not want your artilery to fire first, instead, you want them to run a little bit so they can pick a juicier target or any front line where the little stuff collide. You lose maybe one salve, two at most, by being a little further, but it's much safer, and your first salve land instead of flying over the rushing target.

[@Kyle-774]

Missile intercept is very good when you have a couple mustangs, but they play more of a supporting role rather than making up the bulk of ones army. AKA if the rest of the army is strong enough, then it is good.

[@Beaglerush]

Balanced, as all things should be.

[@Sc2greenst]

Some of the best content I have seen for this game. So tired of just seeing wins from people. The loss analisis was great. Keep it coming.

[@Beaglerush]

I've been doing pretty good lately but I *will* keep posting my loss analysis as it happens, nobody just wins 100% of the time in this game

[@LupusInCaligo]

This comment is being written by me to tell the creator of this video, Mr. Rush, that I really like this "Mechabellum" content. It will now be sent to the comments section and officially "posted" by me pressing the "Comment" button.

[@IoFoxdale]

Joke video suggestion: Highlander Mechabellum where you can only buy each unit once.

[@Draco512x]

very enjoyable video , you sound about as ADD as I am playing this game :D Btw those defensive missiles look like they're causing your own dudes a lot of grief :o

[@spykegda]

dont double down on anything, unless its storm crawlers. :)

[@adamofblastworks1517]

My internet used to cut out all the time. It took my ISP over FIVE YEARS of frequent calls and complaints to fix it, but it's finally mostly reliable. They could have still won the game too. I'm willing to give Nick the benefit of the doubt.

[@typhoon946]

31:12 "My two thoughts here are giants or air" I'd be interested to know why you wouldn't immediately buy overlords here :P

[@Beaglerush]

I find Overlords a bit flimsy without a force for them to properly support! Truth be told, I think I tried to go giants too early in general in both these matches, too.

[@llocos3765]

The temptation, oh the temptation.

[@kingxerocole4616]

This game has a lot of potential.

[@josephhawthorne5097]

So wandered in here just checking out Mechabellum content deciding if I wanted to get it. At one point you commented apologizing if someone came here to see good gameplay, and being the jerk I am, the first immediate thought that occurred to me, was, well we can watch your opponent. 😛 But seriously, the commentary at least was pretty good.

[@steampunkerella]

himbo and bimbo solidarity

[@coolasj]

Ah yeah, that's the good stuff

[@cB-sr9kd]

I'd suggest that the lesson to take from these matches is actually "bait your enemy into a hard counter so they rage quit"

[@thenightninja13]

Can you explain the reason for recycling your units? You only have 2 units to drop even if its bad at the moment there are ways to pivot to make it work. Instead, by recycling, you lose a unit and yes you gain resources but I don't think you get the drop back...

[@Beaglerush]

Without watching over the moments again specifically, in my memory I think they were just really early big investments and I felt I needed to get all that money back in order to pivot to something else quickly. In hindsight keeping them around probably would've helped more though with stuff like the Crawlers in Match 1, so don't take it as a great decision from me, likely it was a mistake!

[@thenightninja13]

@@Beaglerush totally fair reasoning, maybe I tunnel a bit more than I should on keeping my units. Really appreciate your uploads helps me think about new strats.

[@SarahTomb]

cool heat signature bgm c:

[@danielvindhjarta2851]

09:50 Your sledges got stuck on the stormcallers :/

[@testwordz]

i like how you more or less think out loud and motivate your decisions etc, but i do disagree with a decent bit of your decisions :p

[@Beaglerush]

Always interested to hear what others think in the comments :')

[@samsprague3158]

Good stuff, keep it up!

[@hohohopika]

If you are behind the curve, why follow the curve.

[@Mistermixmaster]

this is just Lord of Vermillion with mechs. Seems pretty good tho

[@exemplarx1249]

Pain

[@idawantu838]

I dunno doubling down can work if you double down hard enough and get the right rng. When your doubling down with four more speed-upgraded level-two healing-photon-whirlwind-rage rhinos every turn until literally the entire deployment line is covered in them there isn't really a sensible counter beyond air. And if you already had anti air deployed....

[@znail4675]

The problem here was not that he doubled down, but that he unlocked a new unit that did what he already could do. Doubling down on what he had wouldn't have been nearly as bad as taking out a loan to unlock something that he later recycled.

[@Beaglerush]

Agreed - done right, aggressively spamming one thing so hard can open up a gap between you and the enemy's ability to effectively stop it if they don't jump on it fast or know the right ways to do so. In general though I think this other kind of 'doubling down' can be a big trap, where you keep building an army that fights in the same way and is thus easier to defend or beat with a single reply.

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Never double down

[@tristanchristiansen9054]

u used to play ps2? loving the vids on this game but i gotta say VANU 4LIFE

[@Beaglerush]

I *DON'T* need more batteries

[@Jasonwfd]

!debt

[@GuyGallium]

Live commentary makes for easier videos, but I think you get too lost in the explanation of the decision tree (which is an important part of learning the strategy of this game!), that you forget what the good decision actually is. Leading to you saying one thing and doing the other and undermines the video a bit. Also in general, health is a resource and optimizing winning every round isn’t good, its fine to take some losses.

[@Beaglerush]

I try to win rounds a lot more lately to not lose the XP advantage! Live commentary can lead me to not spend as long actually thinking, but I do pretty well in my streams, so I think I just need to get used to it. I might try different styles of commentary for YT and see what lets me get the best play in!

[@Jeff_the_Hobo]

I'm told these comments are where we booli Beagle for being bad at the game.

[@demency2741]

This is a great video, and I don't intend any judgement with this comment, but: as a viewer, it always makes me kind of sad when I hear you calling yourself stupid repeatedly after making a mistake or misplay.