Don't Get RIPPED OFF At Video Game Conventions - TOO MANY GAMES!

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"TooManyGames as a convention has evolved over the last 15 years. What started out as a small retro video game convention has grown and expanded into an all encompassing weekend of gaming. Whether it be board games, video games, indie games, retro games, handheld games, arcades, CCG’s, we have it all at TooManyGames."
THIS TRIP WAS INSANE! SO Many Celebrities, Awesome People, and a FUN TIME!
This is a new series!! Join me every so often and follow me on my videogame collecting journey. I take you live hunting at the thrift stores, flea markets, yard sales, garage sales, on Facebook Marketplace scores, etc. to add more games to the collection. This starts with one trip to the thrift store and grows from there. Watch to see where this leads and the AMAZING finds I score!!
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[@NESADDICT]

Bam found it! 😂

[@GamerAhmer]

Lol.

[@MXSretro]

So we all are nosey, huh? Lol

[@GamerAhmer]

@@MXSretro Bahaha!

[@NESADDICT]

@@MXSretro 😂 looks like it!

[@albertruggiero1032]

You’ll never stop this. The word video game convention is like the word wedding. Everyone jacks up their prices. A friend of mine called a place to get chairs and tables for his wedding, they quoted him at a couple of thousand dollars. He called back the next day and said he needed chairs and tables for a bbq, they charged him $800. Video game conventions are the same thing.

[@GamerAhmer]

Woah!! That’s insane! Something needs to change! 😮

[@naomibrist3312]

Don't get dazzled by the first booth for sure! Making sure to shop around the convention is a great tip. Looks like you had a great time. Can't wait to see what you got 🎉

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly!! That’s a great point. I had to explain that to some people. We definitely found some deals when we stepped back and hunted for deals. Can’t wait to show the pick ups! Thanks for watching.

[@theretrobro]

YOOOOO seriously I was there this year and was absolutely shocked to see some of the prices i was seeing!!! great video

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly! It was insane to see. Thanks for watching.

[@RetroWolf88]

Preach Brandi!! Some of these vendor prices are INSANE!! We have been prepping for vending at SEGE and our prices are going to be below eBay and Price Charting. I definitely want to check out Too Many Games next year though

[@GamerAhmer]

Absolutely! I had to say something. I can’t wait til SEGE! Hopefully there are some great deals! I can’t wait.

[@optimusmagnum]

I just started watching u recently and found this video from ur other video, lol. U have urself a sub. So far i like the content and appreciate ur insight! Happy Gaming and Collecting!!

[@GamerAhmer]

Thanks for the sub! I definitely appreciate that. :)

[@MarMaxGaming]

Good warning for folks that don’t understand pricing.. I could tell this was more from the heart

[@GamerAhmer]

Absolutely! Thanks for watching.

[@MarMaxGaming]

No problem, your hustle with Brandon is inspiring. It’s cool to see you guys growing and constantly finding stuff to talk about… big time passion, can’t deny it!

[@matttajc3209]

Great video!! Been going since the first show and before that phillyclassic in the late 90’s and early 2000’s.. times have definitely changed unfortunately!! High prices for vendor tables gets pass on to us. As long as we keep going and paying it will always be the norm 😢

[@GamerAhmer]

Woah! That’s insane to hear. I definitely agree. Hoping things start to change in the right direction.

[@matttajc3209]

@@GamerAhmer I don’t see that happening again with this show! They rolled this thing into a monster! They need to top the previous year to keep people coming back!!

[@FanboyBryan]

you make a lot of good points and are a delight to listen to it's cool checking in on someone who attended the same convention

[@GamerAhmer]

I appreciate it! Definitely just want to let people know so they don’t get ripped off in the future! And overall I had a blast! So much cool stuff there!

[@jensekenobi2423]

I agree 100 percent. We drove from south eastern Virginia and I had a list of games I wanted to pick up, day one, I found one of them and it was $25 over buy it now eBay price, I showed the guy, and he said “yea well it’s convention prices, I payed a lot to be here”…. That’s insane to me, why would I over pay for something that can ship to my front door in 3 days for a lot cheaper.

[@GamerAhmer]

That’s ridiculous! See that’s what I’m talking about. Not your fault and that extra fee shouldn’t be placed on you. That’s wild!

[@ALT-HEX]

Great Video. My family and I just visited Bloomington, IL for the Illinois Game Con, and were doing VGS this weekend, and you're right. Some of those prices are insane. Especially on games that are refurbished like PS1 and other disc games. Out of the entire show at Game Con, we found 2 to 3 vendors who had below eBay prices. Most others did not want to barter, it was odd. But, the 2-3 vendors got most of my money.

[@GamerAhmer]

Woah! See that is sad! No one wants to pay above eBay prices! It’s insane. That’s a wild experience. But yes. There are a few that make the experience much better!

[@mjk012579]

You got Pringles cans at the convention!! Nice haul!!

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes I did!! Haha. Can’t wait to show what’s inside!

[@jayjohnson1535]

Wow I did not know these places exist. Thank you for showing this to me.

[@GamerAhmer]

Any time! Thanks for watching.

[@jayjohnson1535]

@@GamerAhmer what got you into gaming. You seem very knowledgeable

[@brand342]

so as someone who sells at conventions in Canada, I typically go by price charting prices and always negotiate with people when I can. but some items condition and rarity does bring up prices so that's always something to consider. also end of the day as a buyer its your job to do research and not over pay, that's what I do as a collector when I attend conventions. I also get told often that my prices are great, which helps build customer relations.

[@GamerAhmer]

See it sounds like you price your games for a reasonable price. Most people I interviewed at the convention were disappointed in prices and many people refused to come this year because it was similar last year. I’m just hoping things get better for next year. I still had a great experience but I’m hoping more people speak up for next year.

[@mystacles]

Too many games looked awesome can't wait to see what u got I'm a sucker for advertisement!!

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes!! It was a blast. Can’t wait to show the next couple things I scored from there. Thanks for watching. :)

[@stevecraigretrogames]

Sucks the prices were high but still looked like a ton of fun! Toxic Crusaders looks awesome! Can’t wait to see you at SEGE soon! Great video Brandi!

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes! Overall it was a blast. Just trying to educate so people won’t get ripped off. Especially families and such. And I can’t wait for that game! Yes!! SEGE will be a blast. I’m coming down Thursday and looking to meet up with everyone. Can’t wait!

[@BarnesArcade]

I hope Toxic Crusader booth is at SEGE. Still have some of the toys!

[@TrinhNguyen-85]

There really is no reason to charge so much for games at these conventions. Especially if the customer is paying in cash. You are saving from eBay fees and credit card fees. Some of these vendors are also blindly going by pricecharting prices too when it is not 100% accurate. The condition and variant of the game matters. I was at PRGE last year at the height of retro game craze and it was insane seeing the prices they charge. Hopefully the hype dies down this year

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh I agree! No one should be over paying for these games when compared to buy it now prices online. Sounds like some terrible tactics. I get things are on the more expensive end but no one should be paying more than eBay prices.

[@TransformersAndVideoGames]

Great tips on finding deals at these conventions. Did anyone recognize you from your KZbin channel while you were there?

[@GamerAhmer]

Thanks so much! And yes. There were quite a few people. Mostly chatted with a bunch of other KZbinrs and had a blast catching up.

[@agoldlife]

Your honesty has gained you another subscriber!

[@GamerAhmer]

Thank you so much! I appreciate that!

[@pickyourbattlescollecting]

I have never been to a gaming con, but this pretty much confirms what I imagined they would be like in terms of pricing. There are many brick and mortar gaming stores that don't even price their items, but look up the current Ebay rate when you go to check out, so I'm not surprised that booth sellers would jack prices way up.

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly!! It was insane seeing this. There were some good vendors there with reasonable prices but you had to hunt for those deals!

[@DoYouNerd]

We've long heard about the high prices of some of these larger gaming conventions and it's one of the things holding us back from visiting. The money we'd have to spend in travel and such means convention pricing would have to equal out that cut.

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly! I don’t think that one is worth it. I’m hoping things change in the upcoming years! But yes! Definitely have to see you guys in the upcoming year! We will have to plan something asap!

[@brotherblue3340]

I was there on Saturday of that weekend. I saw a bunch of you KZbinrs talking to your devices as you walked around. LOL.

[@GamerAhmer]

Bahaha. Yes. That’s how it is. We talk to our phones. 🤣

[@MiaRTV]

I posted a gaming convention vlog because you inspired me!😁

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh I will have to check it out. I’m glad you enjoyed it. :)

[@RetroRivals]

Scott should have watched this before we went to SEGE. Mind you even though he overspent marginally we were going by price charting prices. So I think we still did good. I think vendor overpricing happens at every con and I can say that because I'm an expert now because I've gone to exactly 1 con. Can't wait to see what you picked up from here! Hell with how far I am behind on watching KZbin, the video might already be out 😂😂😂

[@GamerAhmer]

Bahaha! Yes you guys are experts now! Haha. I’m still waiting to get my pick up! Haha. So it’ll be a bit before a video of that is up. But you guys aren’t far behind!

[@Mysticalodyssey007]

i appreciate you making a video about this. i stopped going to conventions because the prices were very comparable to ebay. why get hot and sweaty if you are going to pay more than buy from the comfort of your home. cant wait for the snes pick up video :)

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly! That’s my point. I appreciate the support. And I can’t wait to show the SNES scores from the convention. Definitely some cool things coming. :)

[@Mysticalodyssey007]

@@GamerAhmer i have been slowly collecting for snes too so i am excited to see what you got

[@fentazen2677]

I’ve just stopped buying if there isn’t a price on things, because I’ve had people look up eBay listings and claim they see a listing that means the game is worth X and it’s not a listing I’m seeing on my phone, as an example. Most don’t do stuff like this, but just a few can ruin the experience and make me feel like I should just have stayed home and bought games on eBay.

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly! All it takes is a couple people who ruin the experience unfortunately.

[@EatingCtrlV]

I feel like those days are new. it wasn't that long ago where conventions used to be the place to gets deals since a lot of the vendors were competing against each other. But these days it's just ebay prices as far as the eye can see. You can still find deals or cut deals, but you need to work with people over a couple days and most of the time save your money for the last day where they need to make the sale and can't wait on it. But yah, the prices are brutal now, and the consumer is being bled dry.

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly! It’s supposed to be a fun experience for everyone. Just hate seeing some people ripped off. Either way I enjoyed it and found some deals. Definitely had some places looking out for the convention goers.

[@danielnodd2320]

Well said!

[@GamerAhmer]

Thanks for watching. :)

[@randomrickreviewsrrr4662]

Went to a toy convention a while back lots of OVERPRICED retro games there as well. Signs that game collecting may implode soon. People paying ridiculous prices/resellers etc...

[@GamerAhmer]

It’s insane! Definitely some crazy stuff. Hoping the market shifts in a better direction soon.

[@MegaMattStudios]

3:12 MOM THERE I AM haha

[@GamerAhmer]

Nice!!

[@theadman2315]

The best thing to do is to shop around, and haggle. Haggling is the fun part about the marketplace there.

[@GamerAhmer]

Definitely have to haggle when you can. Just have to find the right places to game hunt at first. Don’t want to overpay still.

[@LindaTheGAMERGal]

The prices will never go down because they were bad when I went a few years back.

[@GamerAhmer]

Definitely shocking!

[@bobbycastner1998]

Omg I live in buffalo I had no idea that was so close when is the next one ???

[@GamerAhmer]

Typically they have a large convention every year around the month of June and some smaller events throughout the year. Definitely have to check it out at least once!

[@adamfn7086]

I remember playing Toxic Crusaders on Sega Genesis back in the day

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes!! Such a fun game. Can’t wait til the new one releases

[@techep3]

I was there all three days. It was a lot of fun, the tournaments at the Eon area were awesome! The vendor prices were very high. Managed to get a nice cib nes in really good shape for 250, that was at least half decent. I did over pay on some games though. I'm looking to get to the one in Hartford coming up.

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes! Definitely tons of fun. Hopefully next time prices are a bit better. That sounds like fun! I’ll have to look into that one. I have a few others coming up but mostly south of here.

[@andrewarbuckle8123]

I usually only buy rare/hard to find games when I go to a convention; something I wouldn't come across locally. Most of the time, I enjoy walking around and seeing the variety of games and systems available. I try and make the experience more than just buying games because the prices are always too high.

[@GamerAhmer]

Same here! That’s the best thing to do at conventions. Find the uncommon items!

[@BarnesArcade]

SEGE will be our 1st convention. Hope it’s awesome.

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes!! I can’t wait. It’s one of my all time favorite experiences. Can’t wait only a couple weeks.

[@BarnesArcade]

@@GamerAhmer just found out about it after it was over last year. Saw that you & the immortal John Hancock are gonna be there, so I definitely have to go!

[@retrovisions_]

Hey it'll be my first time too. I'm hoping it will have pre nintendo games as well as newer stuff. John Hancock will be nice to meet. I hope for a good time and maybe find a few atari deals. Sadly sege hasn't released a vendor list ahead of the show so I can contact stores to see who has atari for the show

[@GamerAhmer]

@@retrovisions_ oh I’m sure they will have a mix. I was able to find a few “Atari age” items in the past couple of years. But yes reaching out ahead of time will help with that too.

[@retrovisions_]

@GamerAhmer last time I was at toomanygames it was 2015 and 2017 . Good time both trips. Yeah whenever there's a list of vendors it's nice to start calling or emailing them when your on the hunt for things that aren't exactly popular and quick sellers. I do atari home computer carts and miscellaneous systems that came and went before the dawn of the NES. Mostly things that sit in the back room in the I don't know what to with it box buried in a corner in the back room. Sometimes i win and they have something many times they don't. But it helps you and the vendor if they know what your looking for and may help them on a dead sale. (A sale on an item they had no intention to bring due to lack of interest)

[@apparition33]

Come to North point flea market in Baltimore instead to get better deals on video games. I usually price games at least a couple dollars below eBay prices. For example I am selling Skyward Sword for switch sealed for $33. Im usually there on most Saturdays but I wont be there this Saturday because I am going to another convention. Shore leave in Hunt Valley! Too many games was still fun even though the prices were crazy. I found a couple good deals in the mix.

[@GamerAhmer]

Very nice! Yes I visit there sometimes. Always trying to find the deals when I can. That’s what it’s about. Finding deals and hoping everyone is happy with it all.

[@lonniemaxwell1659]

I enjoy your content! Subscriber!

[@GamerAhmer]

Thank you so much! :)

[@LemynTwistt]

i came across a sealed toxic crusaders vhs recently at a flea market in pa. i didnt go to too many games this year, but i went in 2019 n 2021. didnt buy too much but loved the atmosphere n for the experience

[@GamerAhmer]

I’ve heard those were some of the peak years. It’s definitely changed a lot since then!

[@R4D4_]

I'll never understand the argument that vendors shouldn't sell at ebay prices because they don't pay ebay fees. What about the fees that they do pay? Like travel (some vendors travel hours to a show), possibly a hotel room, food, and of course table rental. Ebay sold listings are generally close to pricecharting values, and vendors have every right to price ther items as such. Now, on the other hand, if prices are way higher than ebay or pricecharting, then those vendors have no one to blame but themselves when they don't sell anything.

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes I understand that. I’m talking about the $20 items for $100 and the several $200 games I saw for $550+. I’m just hoping people didn’t pay those prices because that’s ridiculous. Seemed as if some tables , not all, were preying on unknowingly naive people.

[@R4D4_]

@GamerAhmer yes, I agree with you 💯. It seems like vendors who do this are either just flexing or are out of touch with reality. As a vendor myself, I've been chastised for selling at average eBay sold prices, and that gets really old after traveling 3.5 hours to get there plus a hotel.

[@MonadoMax]

I’ve been to TMG over the last 3 years I couldn’t believe the insane price increases these vendors had on top of not willing to negotiate this year! Felt bad for my friends the most they flew in/drove in after seeing the amount of times I went they felt it was a very wasted trip due to how expensive everything was.. I am disappointed to say I overpaid for one item because I was in a rush to leave I couldn’t research but considering the amount I bought all week I’m blessed to say it was only ONE item that I overpaid for 😂 I’ll be at SEGE can’t wait to see you there!!

[@apparition33]

Yeah most vendors weren't willing to haggle this year. Usually half of them will negotiate a little bit. Most stuff was overpriced but I was able to find some Pokemon packs for $2.50 each and one vendor didn't have a price on his dragon's lair game for Xbox so he said make an offer and I was able to get it for a few dollars less than eBay price.

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly! Same here. It’s insane! Everyone is saying this same thing. And yes!! SEGE is going to be awesome. I can’t wait! I’ll definitely see you there!

[@zombl337og]

yu buying stuff if a you problem. Just DONT BUY STUFF unless you plan ahead for it.

[@GamerAhmer]

Definitely have to do research.

[@AdamEmerson1420]

Awesome video

[@GamerAhmer]

Thank you!

[@hineighbor]

I have a friend who went there. She's a noob though and thinks she's getting good deals at these conventions. She's a noob to life in general, though.

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh no! Hopefully she found some deals.

[@KirkLee1983]

I havent been I did go to Toy Expo in Timonium last Month that was at Timonium Fairgrounds.

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh very cool! I’ve been to that one before. Definitely plan on going back again.

[@keith1218]

People used to be set outside in the parking lot selling at that toy expo where you get better deals outside than inside lol

[@devote]

Weird. I go to record conventions and if the vinyl was the same price as ebay or discogs I wouldn't bother. They dont have to be super cheap or crazy deals but if you're a vendor at these cons it's so you can off load a lot of product. I've sold at a convention before and I wouldnt even think of pricing it the way i would on discogs.

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh definitely! Some people didn’t seem like they wanted to offload their items. Not at those prices anyway.

[@Skootish]

I go to this con every year. I window shop and buy online for 25% cheaper

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly! Have to just stay mindful of the prices.

[@CCGamesceo]

The vendors do have to pay quite a bit to be there... You shouldn't expect deals. Over eBay is too much though.

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes I completely understand that but seeing $20 games for $100 is ridiculous. And hoping that people who don’t know any better buy them is terrible. I did hear that they raised the prices for everyone including vendors. So that’s definitely not good either. But most people want to feel as if they are getting a deal especially when comparing prices to eBay. What’s the point of paying all this money to get in to a convention to buy games when you could have an item shipped to your house for less. And the items are warrantied and guaranteed working or your money back. And in person with cash as opposed to eBay you are saving the person all of those fees.

[@Gamer4hire1129]

The vendor your complaining about is like that at every convention. He even got retro rick for Flintstones escape from dinosaur peak

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh I know. I’ve seen him at many but there were so many overpriced ones at this particular convention. Some that only set up at this one. Was just giving a buyer beware message to double check prices and if you see overpriced vendors. It’s more so at this convention.

[@theunsunghero6416]

I went to buy Pokemon trading card game on GBC at one vendor and it was $35. Went to another table (over by toxic crusaders) and it was $5. Thats only 1 example of what i saw

[@GamerAhmer]

That’s crazy! Yes that was all over the convention. Woah!

[@son0fsocal]

I remember 12 years on back i would see all these old games basically for super cheap because nobody really wanted them , now its a whole thing, wish I could have seen into the future. 😂

[@GamerAhmer]

I know right?! If only we knew!

[@thegerm574]

Funny I think we both had similar feelings about the show. Too much for admission and thing we’re priced so high that I was barely able to purchase anything at the show. I think I took home just 3 games. Wasn’t worth it.

[@GamerAhmer]

I know! It’s crazy to see how it’s changed just in the past couple years that I’ve been going. I still had fun because of the people.

[@pinebarrenpatriot8289]

Im going this Sunday. I opted out of Saturdays show because its $65 bucks to get in which is ridiculous. I was at a gun show at the same Philadelphia expo center 2 Months ago and it was $15 bucks to get in. Why are they price gouging gamers? Sunday is a bit cheaper. Im only looking for mostly 80's and 90's retro accessories i just hope the prices are more fair than the entry fee🫣

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh I sure hope things have changed and definitely let me know! Just keep an eye out for those deals!

[@south-sellgamers853]

Listen. I agree with you on some points but I disagree with the opening of you being "forced" to pay. You absolutely must master the art of negotiation. This is a beautiful hobby but also a business. I strongly encourage customers to check other booth's for the best price. I believe we all should do some research even as a seller trust me I don't WANT to charge you $100 for pokemon it's ridiculous but people buy it. For anyone seeing this post. I will always try my best to get you the best price in person. Cash is king

[@GamerAhmer]

I agree on the negotiation part. But having games 2x the eBay price is ridiculous. Definitely trying to take advantage of people who don’t know the up to date market value of games. I’m not a fan of those tactics at all. Some parents aren’t going to do the research if their kid wants a game in particular. Definitely have to educate more on this though.

[@keith1218]

My friend and I have gone for 9 years in a row. We've seen the ups and downs of too many games. They shouldn't call it too many games they should call it too many people because it's just absolutely ridiculously crowded there. I think the prices there are also ridiculous however I've had the best time meeting voice actors like Charles Martinet, Patricia Summerset, James Rolfe and countless other KZbin personalities and voiceover actors over the years. The only things my friend and I get are super rare items that we can negotiate on. This year my friend bought a virtual boy Blockbuster case. I highly recommend it to people who want to go to experience retro gaming on steroids in your face however if you're going there to buy 100 video games at under eBay pricing it's a waste of time.

[@GamerAhmer]

Yes just always trying to provide insight and see what other people enjoy or dislike at these conventions. I agree that the people and experiences like that are the best. Definitely is a shame to see the prices all over the place. But at conventions I mostly enjoy looking for the odd things. I just don’t want other people getting ripped off is all.

[@Packattack9204]

No one is “forced” to pay anything. If no one buys games at eBay prices, vendors/resellers will have no choice but to drop prices (unless they’re cool with sitting on inventory). Customers dictate market value…not sellers.

[@GamerAhmer]

I get that but I’m more so looking at those who don’t know and may be buying things for their kids. Those people are getting ripped off either way you look at it.

[@eriks8382]

So many asswipe vendors more than happy to oblige you on that

[@zahirecoates]

One thing I would like to add . don't buy mystery boxes because they be giving you random stuff you don't want. Its a total rip off

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh I agree. I heard not the best things about those. The value just isn’t there.

[@kaox44]

Price will just go up for video games there is not stopping it. Demand is high for rare or very popular games(Pokemon games), are the price outrageous some time? Sure, but it's your money so you're not obligated to buy anything. You just need to look for a garage find....

[@GamerAhmer]

I get that games are expensive. That’s not my problem. The problem is when a $20 game listed on eBay is $20. At this convention the same $20 game was listed for $100+ dollars. Seems like people are hoping naive people will buy their stuff at overpriced prices.

[@kaox44]

@@GamerAhmer point taken, absolutely agreed!

[@SuavePeanuts]

The problem with Too Many games is you have the east coast and new York shops who over charge. Then on top of their overcharging they add convention tax

[@GamerAhmer]

Woah! That’s insane to hear about.

[@SuavePeanuts]

@GamerAhmer yeah... we went last year and noticed the price from all of the east coast shops were super over priced. Compared to a few Midwest conventions anyway.

[@Eroc-kz8po]

You should prob make a video then about how much TMG charges vendors now and also what it makes them go through just to sell. Maybe then the vendors can have lower prices. Also, they increased their admission the cons are getting greedy not the vendors. Also, attendees don’t have to buy unless they want to 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@GamerAhmer]

Yea that’s what I’ve heard. Things have went up significantly since last year alone. It’s terrible that people have told me they refused to go because of the prices alone.

[@Eroc-kz8po]

Yes they have. Also Im not disagreeing with you, I just try to look at both sides that’s all. Sometimes too for vendors who aren’t stores sometimes people pay up to have good inventory and are not making much of a profit after paying for their booth after all is said and done. I feel like a lot of the independent vendors price higher to compensate as much as possible. But you are definitely right for the most part…i got a mint condition Stunt Racer 64 for $350 and i saw other booths selling worse condition ones for $500-$700. The difference in pricing was so out of whack.

[@gingeraleisraycyst815]

I got lucky with some stuff but for the most part,everything way overpriced. Some vendors went above and beyond but others fell flat especially in trade. Had one vendor literally get pushy because I wasn't going to let my one pokemon game complete be traded less than its worth

[@GamerAhmer]

Woah! That’s crazy to hear. But yes it’s definitely changed! That’s insane

[@gingeraleisraycyst815]

Yup unfortunately. Vendors like that really need to learn the difference between being a spot for return customers or one that's avoided

[@reallypissedoffkiwi]

I price high because I expect people to haggle me

[@topchief1]

Too many games does what other cons don't. Rob customers blind. Let's hope it stays that way.

[@GamerAhmer]

😮

[@GregoryOborne]

Been going to Too Many Games for years and my wife has been going even longer (since when it wasn't in Oaks) and 2024 is the first year neither of us will be attending. The ticket prices go up each year at staggering rates. In 2018 a Saturday badge was $37, this year it is $60 (before taxes and fees mind you). The high game prices are mostly just a result from the vendors needing to compensate for their space costs. To be fair, even last year deals could be found as there are still plenty of vendors that offer cash, bundle and trade discounts. Their sticker prices were all below market value as well. Your video makes it seem the entire convention is price gouging but that isn't the case. The real sin of Too Many Games is their ticket and vendor rates.... and trying to be something more than it is (a video game market place).

[@GamerAhmer]

There were many vendors that had higher prices but in this video and others I made about it I show the vendors I was able to work deals out with. At the front there were a bunch of overpriced items that seem to be targeting those who may not know market values. I’m sure you found deals as did I but there were more overpriced vendors than other conventions I attend. I completely agree on the entry costs as well. We paid cash and were still charged a “processing fee” which most times is used for credit or debit. We asked about the processing fee on the cash entry and were told “we don’t know why” and to “move aside” because there were other people they needed to get to. We even had a few volunteers give us a hard time last year as well over an open door and attempting to bring something out to the car. I’ve been going for a few years myself but after everything I experienced last year I won’t be going this year.

[@GregoryOborne]

​@@GamerAhmer Well are you comparing conventions of equal size and scope? Too Many Games has become a 'Mega' con of sorts so you are going to get higher sticker prices on merch, products etc as a result. Whereas at a smaller con in a smaller venue that ONLY sells games (no free play arcade, guests, concerts, entertainment etc.) you will find way fewer vendors with sticker markup.That is just the nature of the beast. Years ago Too Many Games was JUST a market for purchasing games and there was way less of the price gouging going on. The more and more they add to the con that doesn't (to me) have any need to be in a gaming marketplace the more the costs for everyone goes up. At the end of the day though, classic gaming has become synonymous with high value collectibles, which our hobby has become poisoned by. The days are gone where you won't find at least one person trying to take advantage of that so no matter where you go, you are going to find over-priced video games most likely. But yes like you said, deals can still be found thankfully, but we just have to accept that there will be people trying to make more than a buck as well. That is unfortunate about your experience last year and it does sound awful. To be clear, I by no means defend nor support Too Many Games and your experience with the ticket booth and staff is inexcusable. Charging fees for cash is also a pet peeve of mine and ludicrous. It is upsetting you also will not be attending this year, as I am sure we share the excitement from years prior of visiting this con as it really does have an incredible selection and range of games to pick up.

[@pinebarrenpatriot8289]

I went to a gun show at the same Oaks-philly convention center 2 Months ago and it was $15 bucks. $65 bucks just to get in Saturday is straight up price-gouging. I'm going to suck it up and attend Sunday for $45 because I'm a retro/Genesis collector but I might be sticking to ebay if it's the same price next year

[@pigs18]

I have a strict rule that I will walk the entire floor before buying anything. Saved hundreds of dollars this way.

[@GamerAhmer]

Very true! That’s a great tip. I do that too. Have to search for the deals

[@theblubus]

Get em' Gamer Ahmer! Sound the alarm :) We decided to be adventurous and traveled to ClassicGameFest because we've never been to Texas before. When the hall opened, it was a lot of the same marked up prices. One vendor tried to sell me an original Dreamcast controller for $60 LOL I laughed and reminded him that they're only valued at $20 at best. He shrugged it off then tried to sell a guy a PSPGo for $300 knowing a used loose unit is worth 1/2 that. Luckily the customer wasn't sold because that's a lot of money to part with. I later caught that customer and showed him a few tools to check market values. He was grateful and a little mad that he almost got scammed. As for me, I later found another vendor 2 booths over who had mountains of original working Dreamcast controllers on display that they tested, cleaned, and plastic wrapped for only $17! SOLD! Gotta do the homework and don't be afraid to walk away from the table and see what else is available!

[@GamerAhmer]

Woah! Sounds like quite the experience. But yes I agree! Have to stay patient and not over pay. Too many times I’ve seen and heard of this. Things need to change! Definitely crazy to hear about.

[@retrovisions_]

The best weapon is knowledge. It was like that when I started game collecting in 1997 and true for today. Shop around with a base knowledge of what your looking for and the ebay going rate. Make a little list then shop the tables. See who has what. Graded games are a 0 in my book since you can't play em and games aren't really an investment you can bank on. Don't be afraid to pay the entry fee not to buy anything and then buy on ebay. Shop around and use the data you learn to make a good choice. I'm going to SEGE in south carolina and I'll know what I want and the price range it goes for and what I'm willing to pay. All you can do. And simply don't over pay when you have options. And if it's the cart at the show think if it's over priced even if you don't see one online. Shop the floor and see who has the best price and then is it comfortable for you. Patience pays off at cons and collecting overall

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly!! All great tips. Definitely helps to know these things ahead of time. Especially if you know what to look out for and if you can find those deals!! I’m super pumped for SEGE! Can’t wait. Hoping to find some neat items there! It’s always a blast.

[@retrovisions_]

@GamerAhmer hey hopefully I can meet up for a signature. How will fans be able to find you at the sege show? I'm going to bring a system for people to sign ( not sure which duplicate I'll have people sign. )

[@GamerAhmer]

@@retrovisions_ absolutely! I’ll be walking around and I’ll be in a panel room for a trivia event on 1PM Saturday! You can stop by and I’m giving out a Nintendo Switch Lite as a prize. It’ll be randomly generated for participating people to one select winner. :)

[@retrovisions_]

@GamerAhmer I'm hoping to move a few items this time around at sege. Namely a mmx3 box and maybe find my playstation stand up cabinet a new home. We talk about how not to get taken when buying stuff something should also be said when selling at a convention to a dealer at a table. Mostly same rules apply but wanted to mention that goes both ways when at a showing buying and selling.

[@weeziepuff13]

I charge fair prices for my games based on the value (I never charge top dollar), the cost of the convention, and the cost of doing business (credit card transaction fees, gas, paying helpers,etc.). I'm sorry you had to deal with vendors charging too much.

[@GamerAhmer]

No worries. I still had a blast and found great deals in the mix. Just hoping people like families didn’t overpay and get ripped off. More of us need to come together and help each other! Just need to educate and hope everyone can be happy with the deals!

[@MegaManX7]

As a vendor this video is a tad bit annoying. We put our prices higher because people like to negotiate. 90% of the time I never sell anything at sticker value. If the person doesn't negotiate I just offer a lower price and they take it. They feel good. I feel good. Everyone is happy.

[@GamerAhmer]

You might be different then because most people weren’t volunteering cheaper prices. People were pricing their products way more than eBay and hoping people would just pay them. That I feel is not right.

[@MegaManX7]

@@GamerAhmer It sure isn't right but in the end people can price things how they want and its up to them to research. Some things are higher value than others based on condition. Ive sold things 3X PC value because it was 3X harder to find in mint condition. It really all depends

[@Lalalahjhjinjbg]

When are you going to another convention I need to know want to know because I never been able would love to go to a good one and I know you know the right one too go to

[@GamerAhmer]

I’m planning on going to a couple this year. Trying to work out the details still. Mostly depends on your area and what you are able to travel to. There are so many great conventions all over!

[@collinf9334]

Did you get a free pin from cartridges galore 😁?

[@GamerAhmer]

I didn’t! I forgot to ask. Lol

[@DualHitter]

i was here

[@GamerAhmer]

Oh very cool! How was it?

[@HootSr3611]

First time there .. Too many people too many games over priced ✌️

[@GamerAhmer]

Thanks for watching!! :)

[@SkakinBaconMedia]

I think it comes down to perceived value, I remember about 2010 was when retro really started to jump in price across the board, and never really lowered too much. And in Minnesota 2D Con is our gaming Con, but nowadays I really don't spend too much on older games (I sold a lot of them, my apartment isn't as big as where I used to live)but last year I brought my Everdrives(as well my CMVS)and had fun with that! It was nice to enjoy myself as last couple visits to 2D Con I felt I wasn't really enjoying the atmosphere. Very wonderful video, and you have awesome taste in gaming shirts!! Take care!! 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈😊🎮🖖Marcus

[@GamerAhmer]

Thank you so much for watching. I appreciate the support. And yes! I love hearing your input on this. Crazy to think about a time when things were much cheaper! It’s insane to see how expensive things are now.

[@omarvalderrama1314]

It's people who have business they b telling others t rise there prices I hated cuz games r surpose t b fun hunting not t brake ur wallet

[@GamerAhmer]

Exactly! Shouldn’t have to get ripped off to enjoy games.

[@frantisekkoudelka2197]

you are so sweet 🫶😌🙂🤩

[@GamerAhmer]

Thank you so much!

[@charlestonpinballarcade]

Shame on anyone giving you a hard time about posting your experience… someone needs to check their EGO at the door. The information you provided and opinions are nothing controversial.

[@GamerAhmer]

I agree! I appreciate the support. :)

[@MrWrightWay]

Too Many Games doesn't want creators under 50,000