Don't Let Them BLOCK BET!

Caller needs to counter a block bet. Flops a very strong hand in position and then basically faces an almost minimum "super block" bet on the river. Bart explains his approach to such situations.
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[@CrushlivePoker]

How do you treat a "min bet" in general when your opponent leads at you from out of position?

[@davidsilverberg5077]

I agree with you Bart that a min bet is essentially a check and then I act accordingly

[@pot_kivach160]

As a "check". Any other way would be that I am letting myself trapped in the mind game the opponent sets. Which is exactly what happened to the caller.

[@josheisert8380]

Treat it like a check. Interesting. Never thought of it like that. These type of bets always drive me crazy and I feel like a fool to just call it however I also feel like a fool when I raise and they jam.

[@stevenundisclosed6091]

I have always treated that bet like a check and acted accordingly. I never knew that wasn't common knowledge.

[@FuzzypupPoker]

yea I'd raise what I would have bet then my mind would have exploded when I saw the straight with 98o

[@PrimeTerrific]

Time to randomize minbets for nit-call equity

[@JMTavares7]

2:32 Ten of "Hahts" :)

[@fekigrejps7859]

🤣🤣🤣

[@xN0xB0DYx]

bart almost said it like he did lmao that was awesome

[@4ftBeaver]

Honestly not as bad as the A9 that I heard as eight nine. How do you make Ace sound like eight?

[@well.thy.one.]

@@4ftBeaver ace ate, like that

[@Gos1234567]

@@4ftBeaver not that hard FFS

[@drewcundari8773]

wait did he have ace 9 or 8-9 ??? i thought he said 89 the first time I listened

[@marquesfritsche7541]

Ace 9

[@pony_xp5235]

@@marquesfritsche7541 thanks for clarification, I don't understand some accents either

[@cryptolocc6200]

I definitely heard 8 9

[@1stFactChecker]

I heard 89 at first, but it was A9

[@Scottjf8]

@@1stFactChecker sounds like he definitely said 89 not ace 9

[@dtizzl15]

sitting at a table while watching this, I get 77 and flop a set, river quads. win all the moneys. spooky.

[@elindauer]

Nice reminder of how effective block betting can be at low stakes!

[@jackbittker4249]

What hands would bet $30 and would call a raise and you would be good with a set? I don’t see the problem in just calling here. Maybe A10 or A7. AK, AQ, AJ possibly but they would have raised pre likely. Other then that I don’t know. A9 likely folds a bet of $300 unless it really looks like the diamond draw missed and you’re just taking a stab at it.

[@tomf5823]

just calling is god awful- it's exactly why he bet so small bc he doesn't want to call a big bet with top pair.

[@JMacSD]

"I counted out 300 dollahs in chips, I had 'em right theyuh" I don't get it, when caller says he's playing at the Orange whatever why would Bart think that's in Boston, not Florida?

[@potatoesobrienn]

There’s a Orange County in New York I believe

[@geoffin99]

The guy had a heavy Boston accent, right at the beginning he also says card and it sounds like cod. When you hear cod you think of new england and boston. That's probably where the confusion from Bart came from, is my guess.

[@qlow5956]

"Ten of Hots"

[@Hotobu]

"10 a Hawhts"

[@Scottjf8]

Did he say 89 off? I thought he did and Bart thought he said ace 9

[@daithi1966]

A week ago I 3 Bet with AKo and UTG+1 called. Flop was 943 rainbow. Checked to me and I bet 60% and he calls. Turn is a T and he leads out for 20% pot. I was going to fold if he bet, but 20%? I moved all-in for about 1.2 x pot. If he was inducing me it was a great bet size, but he thought for about 2 minutes and folded. His bet just screamed that he didn't want to see a bet, but I sure would have felt dumb if he was inducing.

[@micropokerguy8755]

About preflop play: I completely disagree with you, Bart, that he should iso-raise with with 77 here. In a weak and passive game where you are getting 5 callers with a 5x bb raise, 77 is not good enough to build a big pot. I'm limping here every time to set mine. Just spending the last year playing tougher 6 max games online, I see that this play that you see in live play is super exploitable. You treat these players like they are good and competent, when they are making HUGE preflop mistakes.

[@noex100]

Absolutely, it's laughable how many players will raise weak pocket pairs in soft live games. A perfect example of why GTO is suboptimal in such games.

[@matthewgary6843]

Username checks out.

[@hornetguy9063]

I agree with the sentiment but disagree with the application. 77 is good enough to raise because we don’t necessarily need to improve to win the pot, because we dominate enough stuff in limping and calling ranges. I’d save my overlimps here for the true baby pairs like 22, 33, 44. They don’t really dominate any range that isn’t like a 100 VPIP guy. Also when we raise with 77, which dominates a lot of stuff people will limp call and is rarely dominated by stuff people will limp call or call a raise with, when we do make our magical set, we have a chance to get a whole stack. Like this hand shows.

[@codmott286]

@@noex100 raising 77 isnt GTO, it's literally just setmining with initiative. You get paid every time you flop a set in live games so you need to be raising 100% of your pocket pairs.

[@noex100]

@@codmott286 The guy in the video literally says he raised to isolate, and most preflop raises in live games that aren't laughably small have the effect of limiting the number of players who make it to the flop. This has the exact opposite effect of "getting paid" when you flop a set and is one of many reasons NOT to raise 77 here, especially if you're playing less than 200BB deep. I get the whole "geometric sizing" argument, btw, but when it comes to setmining you should care more about having more players in the pot (even if the pot is smaller) than having a bigger pot but only 1 or 2 potential customers. For example, in this video, it is truly a miracle that hero made as much as he did with a set of 7's against A9. Imagine if the CO or BTN had ATo and decided to fold because of the large iso-raise. In that case he cost himself money.

[@JiveDadson]

Remember when we used discuss blocker bets?

[@TK-bf4yg]

Thank you for great content!

[@Jayps87]

When did Jordan Belfort start playing poker?

[@anhchiem9467]

I did that to a very aggressive player with Tinny bet on the river to induce a bluff from him . And if worked out . I got the nut straighten and he missed his flush . Only do this aggressive bully opponents.

[@trevorstrutt1]

I do this qith people.whem have absolute must to get people.tor arise then ship on them

[@FunDumb]

I've lost to a similar situation in a tourney and the guy had 2 tens to my sevens. We both caught and I layed in. There's gotta be some room in there to get away from sevens on two way straight board. No👎

[@stt5v2002]

I had a situation like this but I only held A-10 high. There was about $120 in the pot and opponent bet $5. The question was whether to raise as a bluff or take 25:1 odds that A high was the best hand.

[@nicks210684]

It depends on the board and previous action of course but I’m probably raising there. Any hand that can’t beat AT high either check-folds river or bets bigger than $5 as a bluff.

[@codmott286]

it's so strange how common this is. Did all these players find the same "donkey guide to playing like an idiot" book at the airport terminal?

[@tomf5823]

raise 100 percent of the time.

[@hornetguy9063]

Heard the accent and just assumed it was a Boston transplant in Florida. Ding ding ding ding ding. As played, in condolences to the OP here, had he checked and you made your normal bet, he might have folded anyway, so I don’t think we missed a full load of EV. But yeah, when someone microbets, treat it as a check. In fact, I would use it as information to bet more. I know they have a made hand when they do this. And for all we know, he has JT or AJ or something other weird two pair that he doesn’t feel comfortable going for a real value bet with, but will call an all in. So yeah, when I see this kind of minbet, I’m taking whatever I was going to bet and adding a lot more to it

[@sportscastercanada]

I would have min raised the block bet to value town! 😆

[@codmott286]

nah, because he'd still be happy to call getting 1:10. $300 would have been perfect.

[@jfcustomfab]

I was thinking he was trying to induce .. but I would value own yourself in this spot with diamonds missing

[@shibasama4000]

A bet that small is considered a check, 1/4th or 1/3rd pot is more of a block

[@ColonelBlair3]

If hero bet $300 after the $30 bet as planned, then got jammed on, can we fold for $245 more? I don't see how villain wouldn't have anything other than 89 or KQ in that specific instance.

[@Adam-ey3ud]

Lol

[@Franciscasieri]

If you can’t quickly decide how to deal with a $30 river bet into that pot...it’s time to learn a new game.

[@codmott286]

maybe it's his first time

[@iamamish]

Or, you're a new player and it's time to seek advice on what you should have done differently, and try to learn and get better. Or, I guess you can just give up on any new endeavor when something happens you don't understand.

[@OGecalien]

So this gon be the new saying in our small circle where we think we’re so cool lol. “Blocking bet.” I think we just passed the downsize one, the blockers one really annoyed me.

[@chucknola484]

Villain cost himself a lot of chips with that stupid $30 bet.

[@mikehamilton367]

Listened to it about 5 times and can only hear "eight nine". No way does that sound like ace nine!

[@silveg87]

Yeah 89 is what I heard and i was like that played weird.

[@MK-13337]

There is a definite "s" sound in there. I can't hear anything but Ace Nine

[@1stFactChecker]

I only heard 89 the first time, after all replays its clearly A9

[@Scottjf8]

Agreed. 89

[@nathanielmorgan3592]

Just jam river. Strongly disagree with 300. You unblock all the two pair combos that can call. It's not even a pot sized raise. You should be betting big when you are the aggressor with an uncapped range against a bluff catching range with value and bluffs.

[@JMacSD]

The smaller the raise the more likely villain calls, so I disagree that jamming (575) or 300 work here, you just get a fold, 150 or so might give villain the pot odds to consider calling. Also, I can't think of a hand villain might reasonably have that loses to 777 that he'd call a shove with - I'd have to somehow convince him that I'm bluffing with crap, and I seriously doubt the villain who leads with $30 here has the gonads to sniff out a bluff (especially when it isn't)

[@nicks210684]

@@JMacSD you don’t think AJ/AT/A7/A6 calls a jam hoping hero has busted diamonds or is overvaluing AK/AQ? Although those hands probably don’t make the stupid block bet.

[@noex100]

@@nicks210684 Villain should never have 2 pair with the way the hand played out (except maybe AJ, but even that's a stretch). The blocker bet is either a straight or a weak ace, all day long. I like a polarized raise on the river, but a jam is probably too much; it discourages a weak ace from trying to bluff-catch. Raising to $350-$400 is perfect.

[@nicks210684]

@@noex100 yeah after I made that comment I figured that most two pairs are probably raising sooner with the obvious exception of AJ. You can probably discount straights somewhat as well since 89s surely raises turn some portion of the time and he really shouldn’t have KQ by the river except KQdd. So on reflection a weak ace does seem most likely and hence a smaller bet.

[@codmott286]

@@nicks210684 thats the thing, if V has those suckout type hands he's not gonna risk only making 30 bucks with it, and trying to induce is way too sophisticated for these clowns. If V really thought he had the best hand he'd just donk out for $150+ himself to make sure he gets paid.

[@xanderlinde8746]

Nice call buddy

[@JMTavares7]

The guy literally called in the hand because he know he fucked up. Don't get the point of this comment , redundant.

[@pot_kivach160]

@@JMTavares7 so, could not learnt otherwise what's right move on river?

[@CD3V98]

Need to raise there 100% but hindsight he isn't calling a river raise so whatever.

[@tomonetruth]

I'd have folded.

[@pot_kivach160]

The best move is fold river. He could've been beaten!

[@MrJamberee]

That would have been my move. He would be trapping me with a thirty dollar sucker bet

[@nicks210684]

Nice trolling.

[@4ftBeaver]

Lol that guy's accent was so bad I thought he said 89 off. I thought he had saved himself $300 to the straight.

[@codmott286]

im still convinced he said 89

[@thomasvanriper2895]

What did villian really have ? I have no headphones and the closed captions said he had 89 off.

[@300zxster]

Calling the block bet is alright. The guy probably won't call any raise anyways. Got max value there.

[@davidgentile4576]

If in doubt just call. 330 can't stop lmao

[@davidgentile4576]

Just play poker stop this science B. S. . anyhow what won the hand.

[@fkij8v617]

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