I would say your relative on UTV is a coincidence,, by October 10th bucks are dispersing and going solo. I watch So many videos of people spraying cameras with scent killer and wiping stuff down, spraying their rubber boots and mature bucks won't come. Blah blah blah. The wife and me have 700 acres and use 4wheeler to haul in corn to feeders and move cameras all over the property finding where the bucks are. I constantly have mature bucks on camera and shoot mature bucks every year with bow and rifle, most within 30 yards no matter what weapon and most under 20 yards. My bucks start going nocturnal about the 1st of October, they just do every year. If we get a cool front they might sneak around in daylight. Every year around Halloween the bucks start moving more. I've hunted this spot for 26 years and know what the deer do. Find a good buck area there's always a buck there. During the season I only hunt if the wind is right. I don't care if a monster is on camera every day and the wind is wrong I won't hunt there. I have stands all over for different winds , some stands are only 40 yards apart because of a great buck trail so I can hunt the wind. If you're lazy you're probably not a successful bow hunter and probably not rifle either. Guys shooting a spike or 2 year old 8 haven't hunted a mature buck and had to deal with how careful and smart mature bucks are. Have a great season 👍