DON'T REFILL DISPOSABLE 1LB PROPANE CYLINDERS pt 1. My rebuttal to a viewer's ignorance.

Today a viewer insisted that disposable propane cylinders can be refilled. They can be but it's unsafe and against the law to transport them if they've been refilled. • Flame King Eco Friendl... • DON'T REFILL DISPOSABL...

[@jameswhite465]

Thank you for taking the time to let me know there are refillable 1 lb bottles I may look into them.

[@ronirios3377]

It might be a good idea to get the heavier duty refillable one.

[@roundoval9991]

Been refilling them for 20 years for ice fishing, never an issue, its perfectly safe, they work fine

[@silverstreak232]

I'm assuming you are referring to the dipsossables. If it works for you. I choose and advise the use of bottles that are made and approved for refilling. They're construction is definitely stronger. If you can tell in the video I get a little peed when people use the comment section to be jerky. You are not one of those. In fact I appreciate other folks opinions that don't align with mine. Thanks for the feedback.

[@williamfuller2389]

"Perfectly safe", until it wasn't. Doubt he is returning to report any future "mishap".

[@ronirios3377]

Didnt a youtuber who showed how to refill these get him and his wife blown up in their garage?

[@Jeff-kw8jj]

​@@williamfuller2389the same argument used by Pitbull owners, my dog doesn't bite until it eventually does

[@TimeSurfer206]

I personally believe the biggest problems most people have with a refilled bottle is twofold: 1) They are fragile and like to crack when dropped, and 2) People tend to overfill them when they Vent it to get it fully filled. I'm refilling the disposables, but I NEVER VENT THEM. That means they get 1/2 a pound, rather than a full charge. I've also noticed that the disposables like to leak, after a bit. If dropped or leaks, it's now trash. They stay outside.

[@silverstreak232]

Well, they were never intended to be refilled in the first place. I'm going to do a second part to this where I cut an empty disposable bottle and an empty refillable bottle in half to show the difference in construction and wall thickness of each cylinder. Thanks for the feedback and Happy New Year.

[@dougadams9419]

The one pound bottles are only good for a torch or a camping stove. I use 20 pound tanks with regulated adapter hoses.

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

I seen so many preepers and others refilling the Coleman disposable ones that i just assumed they were fine, i really appreciate your bringing this topic to proper significance, in a survival situation you definitely don't need no unnecessary AVOIDABLE RISK! i for one will certainly be getting the proper refillable tanks, and only using these for 1 time use, its not worth the risk, but i actually overlooked the issue until now, so thank you!

[@kosheronlynobacon1542]

Almost started refilling bottles. Thank you.

[@denoginator1]

do not remove this label....except by the consumer......only the seller cannot remove.... so if you own it you can legally remove it

[@silverstreak232]

True. But, I was using that as an analogy. Not literally.😂

[@jockoharpo2622]

Thank you for this! I won't refill them. I did it twice out of a grill tank but not anymore. You're appreciated!

[@tomlangley6236]

Of coarse the company don't want you to refill them, where's the $$$$$ for them if you do?

[@silverstreak232]

Safety and liability may have more to do with It. In fact Coleman makes an approved refillable bottle called the Fuel Keg. So, that discredits your claim.

[@2fuzy]

Risk of rupture is almost non existent and without going into the math ....the problem tends to crop up in the valve leaking

[@silverstreak232]

Show us your evidence. I have a thorough background in metals and metallurgy. I agree the valves are the biggest potential for leakage. But , there is a reason disposable bottles are intended for one time use. By the way go ahead and do the math I wouldn't mind.

[@stephen26448]

How are they going to know that you refilled it if you don't tell them you did

[@silverstreak232]

Now, these bottles that are approved to be refilled and are DOT legal are not expensive at all. It's up to you to determine if it's worth the risk. Let's say you pay $10 for a Coleman disposable or pay slightly more for a refillable. If you choose to go with the refillable bottle you won't have to worry, "How are they going to know that you refilled it if you don't tell them you did." That's my best answer. Thanks for the feedback. Have a good evening, Stephen.

[@larrypatterson7087]

It's your choice it is their choice live and let live

[@silverstreak232]

I agree. But, when I have people leaving absurd and rude comments with terrible advice, I am not afraid to confront them about it. I'll be respectful as far as it depends on me. But, when someone throws the ball into the court with an inappropriate comment, they shouldn't get upset when someone takes it and runs with it. After all it's my channel. Nobody's forcing anyone to watch it.

[@kellytoth760]

and here you are

[@silverstreak232]

yes, here I am.What's your point? Have you been looking for me?

[@calinabtx]

I refill them and I will continue to refill them.

[@silverstreak232]

I assume you're refilling disposables. I merely showed the difference between the two cylinders. The difference in construction is significant. The empty APPROVED bottle weighs almost as much as the FULL disposable bottle. The Flame King has thicker Wall construction and welds. It will withstand the extreme pressure of being refilled multiple times more than a disposable bottle. The disposables are made as cheaply as possible for one-time use. Now, if you ever become a statistic, you have no one to blame but yourself. Have a happy New Year.

[@samich57]

How can you verify a refilled bottle versus a factory filled bottle? How would that crime be proved

[@silverstreak232]

It's not my job the determine if YOU committed a crime or not.

[@keithfork8663]

A true democrat.

[@silverstreak232]

Quite the contrary. Democrats want to do away with propane with their zero carbon insanity. I choose not to take unnecessary risks for the sake of being too stingy to buy the right equipment. Thanks for exposing your ignorance, and have a Happy New Year.

[@williamfuller2389]

Those who refill those disposable bottles and suffer catastrophic failure are not going to boast about it in public as it could serve as evidence against them in court, assuming they survived.

[@silverstreak232]

Some comments I had to remove because they were just absurd. Some place in the video, I made the comment "stupid people shouldn't breed." At the time, I was being sarcastic. But now I'm starting to really feel that way. 😕

[@williamfuller2389]

​​@@silverstreak232You brought up a point I hadn't thought about but completely agree with; KZbin cancels videos for what they deem as "Misinformation" all the time but yet have done nothing about videos like those advocating refilling single-use propane bottles. Shows their agenda is politically motivated, NOT Public Safety.

[@paramax55]

I'll bet you don't run with scissors, either... so long as you don't overfill them, propane is propane. They don't go through stress cycles because they are under a constant pressure so long as there is liquid propane in them. They also make great recovery tanks for automotive refrigerant.

[@silverstreak232]

No I don't run with scissors. And I sure as hell won"t take any advice from someone who says they make great recovery tanks for AC refrigerant. I have EPA universal certification in AC and refrigeration. What you're saying is absurd.

[@paramax55]

@@silverstreak232 "Absurd?" What is the room temperature pressure of 134A vs Propane? They are virtually the same. If the world were filled with people like you, there would be no engine swaps, DIY solar systems, go-carts powered by lawnmower engines, etc... No, sir, I am not the one here who is being absurd. There is no problem with people using something, within its physical limitations, but outside it's original purpose. It's part of what makes America... America.

[@RimfireAddicted70]

I appreciate the concern due to the dangers of gas but citing the fear of being "busted " in a traffic stop with a refilled tank is honestly absurd. I ask you to find one single reported event where this was prosecuted. I'll wager almost zero law enforcement know of this and have no method of proving it in a court of law. It's just a red herring threat which makes having a difference of opinion less valid. As far as the material thickness, the Coleman brand containers are over built and have to be built so to withstand a level of physical impact, heat induced pressure and longevity of the seals on the tank. It is simply in their financial interest to say do not refill. You cannot argue that one safety label is important while another is not. You either choose to abide by the law completely or you don't. Again, I disagree with what you're saying but I support your sharing a different viewpoint. History though will be the true decider here and so far history is on the side of those who refill and unless we start hearing about deaths and injuries directly related to refilling I sincerely doubt anything will stop people from refilling. Cheers.

[@silverstreak232]

@rimfireAddicted70 I appreciate your feedback. In the end the individual is responsible for their own actions if it affects only them or others. If you use something thats actually approved for refilling and transporting, then you don't have to worry about the WHAT IFs, or WAS THERE EVER A CASE THAT WAS PROSECUTED. I appreciate differences in opinion too. Thanks for your feedback. Have a good evening

[@seanlin97]

No links?

[@silverstreak232]

flamekingproducts.com/products/flame-king-4-pack-eco-friendly-sustainable-1lb-refillable-propane-tank-lp-cylinder?variant=40946944770153&currency=USD&adscale=1&campaign_id=20396668466&PMax_US+%5BPMax+Campaign%5D+Google+PMax+and+Search+Campaign&site_source_name=adscale_pmax&device=m&creativeId=&network=x&gclid=CjwKCAiA4smsBhAEEiwAO6DEjdteq2w_N7krXopUbfMeENTjF7Fz7U1pLTjDJXGNofKNqR-dKCWH2hoCa4oQAvD_BwE www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/mr-heater-reg-fuel-keg-kit/f200049/p-1642874297828530-c-6878.htm

[@silverstreak232]

www.costco.com/flame-king-refillable-1lb.-empty-propane-cylinder-tank-16.4-oz%2C-2-pack---with-refill-kit.product.100679019.html

[@seanlin97]

@@silverstreak232 Thanks

[@silverstreak232]

I never said there was. I said It's illegal to transport refilled disposable 1 lb bottles. And to also check local, state, and federal before hand. @@gizzyguzzi

[@Breezer56]

There's no way "they" would know who filled it. They wouldn't even think about how it was filled. It's no more unsafe to fill than filling a portabler fuel canister. What specifically is the problem with filling these. Yes, anyone idiot can screw up filling anything. Your opinion and my opinion......

[@silverstreak232]

You're just dumb 🙄. Filled with the kind of stupidity that can't be reasoned with. Thanks for exposing your ignorance 🤪 Have a Happy New Year.

[@jasonhache389]

Be sure to pay cash if you do refill, if you had an accident and killed somebody and they know its a propane tank rupture lawsuit may be put toward coleman and their lawyers are smart enough to check you purchase transaction. So yeah "they" will know.

[@williamfuller2389]

Those who refill those disposable bottles and suffer catastrophic failure are not going to boast about it in public as it could serve as evidence.

[@williamfuller2389]

"How would they know"? It's called Fire Investigation. The Forensic Engineers that often are working with Fire Investigators could fairly easily determine any single-use bottles found at the scene of a fire had been tampered with after examining the vent valve and it's condition. If it was determined the bottle had been tampered with and refilled and you survived, all I can say is start working on your strengthening your grip on bars of soap.

[@Breezer56]

It had propane in it when he got it and unless he tells the authorities he filled it, they would not know "he" filled it! I don't care about fire investigation....you watch too many TV shows. Tell me exactly how someone would know it was filled by a person?

[@chadvough8359]

I'll tell you whut... I didn't realize they made a legit refillable bottle. That's my ignorance because I never looked, just saw a fitting that would fit both tanks and started refilling them like an idiot 🎉. Monkey see monkey do. I guess I'll buy a real tank now 😅 thanks 👍

[@silverstreak232]

Thanks for the feedback. The refillable bottles are not expensive and you can do your refilling with peace of mind.