HOW TO REFILL Coleman Propane 1lb Fuel Cylinder Canister Tanks Bottles DIY For DIRT CHEAP

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@HOBOTECH
@HOBOTECH 6 жыл бұрын
You can grab the adapter at amzn.to/3QX4Opn ** Q&A ** Q: Why don't you use a hose adapter from a 20lb? A: I do, but you need to run a $20 filter on the hose and drag a big tank around. There are times that is not practical and I've had TWO $30 hoses fail. Q: Can't you overfill the 1lb canister? A: No, all propane tanks run the same pressure. Q: Why don't you get a Flame King? A: Because they cost $30. You can buy a 20lb tank for that price defeating the purpose of this money saving hack. Q: Isn't this dangerous??? A: Maybe. I've never had an issue. Do it AT YOUR OWN RISK. Q: OMG isn't this is illegal? A: It's legal to refill, but not legal to transport DOT 39 refilled cylinders. You do so AT YOUR OWN RISK. Q: Have you ever had one fail or leak? A: Not in 3 years but I do throw them out at any sign of wear. Q: Why not open the relief valve while filling? A: Do not mess with the emergency relief valve! This can cause a leak. Q: I'm a disagreeable. Can I post an angry and/or insulting comment? A: Your non sequitur ad hominem feeds my soul.
@Goldwing1500rider
@Goldwing1500rider 4 жыл бұрын
One time buy valve kit, one propane refillables, refillables online $32 for two ( Home Depot or Amazon when low season) last much longer and fills up more than disposable. It pays itself in long run.
@billcampbell9886
@billcampbell9886 4 жыл бұрын
Dragging the "heavy tank" around is no big deal (it's not that heavy) and it beats the hell out of waking cold in the middle of the night to change the one-pound tank on your Mr. Buddy heater, maybe twice per night if you use the high setting on the heater.
@dinosaurcomplaints2359
@dinosaurcomplaints2359 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is very possible to overfill, spec is liquid, 80% of volume. Lpg expands greatly with temp change. Too much liquid, ruptured tank. In fla, for example, bulk trucks are only filled to 80% to allow for temp change from morning to afternoon. Repeat, do not! Refill one pound tanks, is ilegal and dangerous for reason stated above! Lpg boils at -40F.
@rebeccarorie313
@rebeccarorie313 4 жыл бұрын
I have a hose that goes to my mr. Buddy to a 20 lb tank so can I use that hose to fill out the smaller green containers
@rebeccarorie313
@rebeccarorie313 4 жыл бұрын
I decided to get a 20lb tank and hose to go to the mr. Buddy so I will not have to change the little tanks so often and also would not run out in the middle of the night while I'm asleep but I wonder if I'm supposed to have a filter on it Does anybody know the video on youtube says just hook up to you hose to the 20 lb propane tank It is interesting it says it sales as a 20 pound Tank but on the tank it says 15 lb does that mean it only holds 15 pounds of gas? I don't know why? Not sure how to hook up propane tank to the mr. Buddy What is the correct way to do it Is there a problem if Can I use it in my house? Thank you
@Peppermint1
@Peppermint1 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the bottle sticker, just above the bar code. You will find the bottle manufacturing year. Quite important. I did refill a bottle from 2012, then screwed my burner on it and used it for a few times. Then one day I tried to unscrew the burner to remove it, the bottle started hissing ! The valve was stuck open. I had to screw back quickly the burner and kept using the bottle until empty. Then threw the bottle away. Keep in mind, those valves are not made to last forever. And make sure the bottle doesn't leak, put your finger with some soapy water over the opening to make a film and see if it bubbles.
@guyallphin1295
@guyallphin1295 Жыл бұрын
I'm a retired environmental scientist from Ocean Beach CA. (San Diego). I transplanted to the Ozark mountains of Arkansas 5 years ago buying 25 acres of lake property in the middle of nowhere. I built a smallish stone cabin with a metal roof, wood burning stove and nothing but forest surrounding me. I built a small overlander from a 2019 Nissan Frontier. I LOVE your videos!!! There is so much I've learned from you! You are just a wealth of knowledge. Your presentations are fun and educational. I don't always understand everything you teach because I learn something new every time I watch you, but I sure do like you. Thanks again for all of your work. Rev
@Bretzky99
@Bretzky99 2 жыл бұрын
Liquid propane will expand when it warms. You need to always make sure you leave around 20% vapour space in any LPG cylinder so there is room for expansion. Without this the cylinder can easily over pressure.
@TheWtfnonamez
@TheWtfnonamez 2 жыл бұрын
This advice may well end up saving my life in the future. Thank you.
@1GHOUL1
@1GHOUL1 5 ай бұрын
That’s why they come with a relief valve at the top.
@Howie875
@Howie875 4 жыл бұрын
Used to transfer refrigerants using a refrigerant hose from one tank to another. Important to know once you have 2 tanks hooked together there is no pressure difference between the two. The refrigerant in the cylinders were part liquid (on the bottom) and part gas (on the top) You could then transfer by gravity alone by putting the full tank above the empty tank and the liquid would flow to the bottom cylinder. Important to know here that propane acts just like this (it is actually used as a refrigerant) and with this method I think there could be a chance to completely fill the smaller cylinder. Not a problem if you use it right away, but if you fill it under cold conditions and then expose it to warmer conditions later, this liquid will expand and without a vapor cushion on top hydrostatic pressure will build up and rupture the bottle. We were never allowed to fill any refrigerant recovery tank over 80% of capacity because of this. Probably the best way to do this is get an accurate scale and weigh a factory filled canister and then try to match it . If the large propane cylinder has a one way check valve in may alter the way the gas and liquid flow but I am not positive about that because all I used were tanks without check valves.
@Joe-id2ns
@Joe-id2ns 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@CyborgMaMa
@CyborgMaMa Жыл бұрын
So how much should a little tank weigh when fill?
@Howie875
@Howie875 Жыл бұрын
@@CyborgMaMa I don't know the weights, but the manufactures of the bigger tanks stamp a TR weight on the cylinders. This is short for tare weight, and that is the weight of the cylinder while empty. If they are one-pound cylinders (one pound of Propane) then just fill to the weight of one pound plus the tare weight of the cylinder. Please check with other sources for the actual amount of propane recommended for these cylinders. Again, I do not know if a tare weight is stamped on these small cylinders.
@stereotypo1
@stereotypo1 Жыл бұрын
@@CyborgMaMa 1 lb more than when empty.
@zone4garlicfarm
@zone4garlicfarm 6 жыл бұрын
There is one small but important step you left out. After filling and disconnecting the small tank, spray the valve with a soap solution to check for leaks. If the valve doesn't seal, attach it to your buddy heater or lantern to contain the propane and mark the tank so you don't fill it again.
@7heRedBaron
@7heRedBaron 4 жыл бұрын
I put brass caps on mine, available at Cabellas. There’s no leaking past that.
@zone4garlicfarm
@zone4garlicfarm 4 жыл бұрын
@@7heRedBaron I wasn't aware of those caps. I would still check for leaks both before and after installing the cap. It's cheap insurance against potential disaster.
@houndogjohnson4013
@houndogjohnson4013 4 жыл бұрын
Before attaching small cylinder ... release some pressure from it using the schrader valve... this instantly chills this small tank improving results
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 4 жыл бұрын
I weigh mine after filling and I have set 900 grams, total weight, as my maximum fill weight. I have filled them to 919 grams, but I put it back on my griddle and run it for about five minutes to get it down around 900 grams. I use my baking scale to weigh the cylinders.
@anomilumiimulimona2924
@anomilumiimulimona2924 4 жыл бұрын
My brother does it by floating it in a bucket of water to verify the fill amount. I'm gonna have go over his prosses again.
@sjordan7085
@sjordan7085 2 жыл бұрын
I shared this on a prepping channel and a woman sent me several nasty E-mails about it calling me, Baby Doll and being quite derogatory, and clearly did not understand the point, She claimed it didn't save money, when obviously, it does, and can be done safely if one follows instructions properly. Thank you for the demonstration, I appreciate it.
@graydonwilkinson1458
@graydonwilkinson1458 4 жыл бұрын
The new large tanks have a system inside that blocks propane flow if the tank is not upright now.
@irnomo9784
@irnomo9784 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, so, I did this for awhile. some 3-4 months, and I only used the refillable ones - that were MEANT for this. One morning I got up in my camper in Walmart parking lot, set up my stove and coffee percolator. Coffee boils, I put it in my thermos. I turn the stove off, and go to unscrew the propane tank(1 pound, refillable). As soon as I pull the adapter off the tank, it is billowing out propane into my motorhome. It is winter, and I have my Wave 8 Furnace running - Catalytic ventless. The propane was flowing FAST out of my tank, and my door lock got jammed just like in the movies( no joke, cold weather and it froze I think). I managed to get the door open after about 30 seconds of fighting with it, and the camper was already filled with propane. Threw the canister out into the pavement. I have NO idea why trhe furnace did not ignite the gas in the motorhome, but I do know I am very lucky. Went to the hospital for oxygen afterwards, to make sure I was good. Oxygen was low about 80%. Turns out the fill nozzle on the tank got stuck to the side, which is apparently much easier to do with the non refillables. That is the REAL reason not to do this. Second, this takes forever to do.
@7heRedBaron
@7heRedBaron 4 жыл бұрын
Rollin Nerdy Why would you remove the 1 lb can before it was empty. Isn’t that inviting disaster?
@irnomo9784
@irnomo9784 4 жыл бұрын
@@7heRedBaron according to the instructions you're supposed to remove it after each use, though the other way it would probably be safer.
@objectiveobserver2792
@objectiveobserver2792 Жыл бұрын
@@irnomo9784 I followed instructions to remove the canister from my torch after use and same thing happened to me. It was a new bottle not a refill. So the valves can go bad or get stuck first use.
@robh1908
@robh1908 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a T connector with 2 10ft hoses. Runs 2 appliances at once. No little tanks needed
@4x4xGMC
@4x4xGMC 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, my eye were opened by the comparisons you gave. Safety first people, don't gamble with your life.
@troytaylor1913
@troytaylor1913 Жыл бұрын
It's a good idea to put a Mr. Heater fuel filter kit on the end of the refill adapter if you want filtered propane. It might clog an orifice. The propane you buy for those 20-pound bottles can be dirty. The first time you open a propane bottle upside down is when the dirty stuff mostly oils blows out of it if it's never been done before.
@lostinthedesert6149
@lostinthedesert6149 3 жыл бұрын
You can get a full charge by burping the small bottles with a punch or drill bit for 4-5 seconds. do it with the bottle upright, depress the valve inside the threaded nipple, then fill again with the large tank. DO THIS OUTSIDE WITH NO IGNITION SOURCES NEARBY🔥, DO NOT MESS WITH THE VALVE ON THE BOTTLE ITSELF, it's a safety blow off valve that works opposite of the main valve. only do it 2 times, and weigh the bottle. it should be between 15-16 oz net, if its a little over, bleed it down with your punch. I use these 1lb bottles with a big buddy propane furnace, and it's nice to get a full bottle run without having to get out of a nice warm sleeping bag :o)
@danz1910
@danz1910 Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@haroldfitz5146
@haroldfitz5146 6 жыл бұрын
I usually stop at 1lb 13oz. The empty can being about 13oz. You don't think there's a chance of the pressure relief valve popping if you fill way over a pound of propane? If it did pop you could have one heck of a blow torch in your van Tom
@sibco96
@sibco96 2 жыл бұрын
Around the 'foot' of the 20 pound tank there are some holes. You can use S-hooks or caribiners and a length of small chain or rope to hang the 20 pound tank upside down from a limb at a comfortable height instead of using that stool and kneeling down to do this. And just leave it hanging there until next time. No need for the flippy floppy.
@bigdanc.8429
@bigdanc.8429 4 жыл бұрын
Just because something hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't happen. You can buy a complete kit for between 35 and $60 depending upon if it's on sale and where you buy it then includes a canister a stand and the Valve & fittings to do it properly. You can also buy additional tanks for roughly 15 to $20 each so once your cost is recouped from refilling legal ones it's no different than the Coleman ones that expose you to extreme liability
@TheLaw365
@TheLaw365 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@carldupre9865
@carldupre9865 4 жыл бұрын
Mr buddy heaters sales a hose to go from the heater to a larger tank so you can do away with the 1 pounders.. we have many in the deer stands.. last all season!
@bentnickel7487
@bentnickel7487 4 жыл бұрын
sells, not sales.
@LemonySnicket-EUC
@LemonySnicket-EUC 4 жыл бұрын
He covered that in the video.
@bgmill70
@bgmill70 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these adapters and I thank you. Seems to work very well and it is a serious cost savings in comparison to throwing away and buying new one lb. tanks.
@rickywrenn
@rickywrenn 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard the steel in the disposable tanks are thinner and are prone to rupture if refilled over and over to stress of the steel. Not sure if that’s true but the small refillable ones are thicker with bleed valves. The Manchester ones are incredibly thick with a separate control valve on the tank. I have those as well as the FlameKing which is somewhat thinner without separate control valve. I have refilled disposable as well as the refillable ones. I have pulled the pressure relief valves on the disposable ones to get more gas in too. The do leak afterwards sometimes. My opinion is use the thicker tanks that lets the liquid out when ~80 percent full to be as safe as possible. It only takes one rupture to ruin your day.
@jonathancandor4476
@jonathancandor4476 2 жыл бұрын
I have been refilling these on my boat. My friend said it's dangerous. So just today i read the label while I was making dinner. I think I'll switch to an alcohol stove and cook with isopropyl
@domitron
@domitron 4 жыл бұрын
Been doing this for years. Saved a bundle at Burning Man.
@domitron
@domitron 4 жыл бұрын
@chris easly They didn't have it this year. Burning Man is expensive, but it's also a life-altering experience. There is no experience like it on the planet. It has almost nothing to do with most music/art festivals - and I've been to many others.
@MayhemRv
@MayhemRv 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing this for years and have saved a small fortune. I put the small can in the freezer for a few hours to lower the pressure and it seems to fill better. And solicitations to you too! 😁
@payoloscovknorris6596
@payoloscovknorris6596 4 жыл бұрын
how many times is it safe to refill It 2-3 times ?
@davidmajors514
@davidmajors514 3 жыл бұрын
@@payoloscovknorris6596 That's just it. These are not certified for re-fill so there is simply no data that tells you- thus the legal restrictions. It might fail after years or after the first time. I presume the tank manufacturers have some idea- after all the tank has to handle the pressure changes from night time to day, not leak after being connected and disconnected multiple times etc. There's a bigger safety margin than the naysayers act like but they simply are not as robust as the re-fillable qualified ones. Flame King sells the re-fillable ones but they never seem to be available anywhere-always out of stock.
@lakegeorgeloyalist2151
@lakegeorgeloyalist2151 Жыл бұрын
salutations?
@unsilencedman
@unsilencedman 4 жыл бұрын
Iunno I found the little buddy heater just as good and mounts right to the tank. Also more reliable. The big buddy heater failed for me using the hose adapter to the 20 lb tank. Also here in canada the tanks after 2007 have a safety feature that if you dont have someone who knows what they are doing (turn that screw) you're losing 20% each fill from that float.
@davedining5069
@davedining5069 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a hose connection from the big take to whatever I wanna use lantern,heater etc.
@Chevydevil
@Chevydevil 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Dining, The cheaper lines contain/release oil which will damage your heater/devices over time.
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chevydevil Propane is Hydrocarbon fuel, oil is Hydrocarbon fuel.
@Chevydevil
@Chevydevil 4 жыл бұрын
@@pablopicaro7649 thats like saying crude oil is the same as highly refined fuel. Elementaly the same maybe, but the oil that leeches can cause issues in the regulators and such
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chevydevil Another blogger said that there is an oily stuff put in LPG/Propane to give it a bad ODOR so can smell a leak. So that stuff is likely the odor causing substance that is added.
@Chevydevil
@Chevydevil 4 жыл бұрын
@@pablopicaro7649 I'm referring to the cheaper hose's themselves deteriorating and leeching oil from what they're composed from. That is what is causing premature failure in connected devices. All propane has the additive, so humans can detect a leak. They wouldn't chose an additive across the entire industry that would cause premature failure.
@brentmorgan6756
@brentmorgan6756 4 жыл бұрын
I have an adapter, slightly different, and i only get 1/4-1/3 the way full. Theres not enough pressure to fill it up even if you drain all remaining gas and pressure out of the tank. So basically you need to keep a lot of empties around and keep filling them often. It's honestly easier just to buy new ones.
@vhfgamer
@vhfgamer 2 жыл бұрын
If you're draining all the gas out of the bottle, then you're just replacing it with oxygen. That's less than helpful.
@garrytalley8009
@garrytalley8009 2 жыл бұрын
@@vhfgamer You are crazy. You are relieving pressure so that it will take more fluid. That is why a lot of people are burping their tanks a couple of times to get it to fill all the way. Stick to gaming you are not so bright on your explanation.
@vhfgamer
@vhfgamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@garrytalley8009 I don't know whether I'm crazy or not, but you're definitely rude.
@jamesgill5511
@jamesgill5511 6 жыл бұрын
Ideally the adapter would be 90° so when you invert the 20# tank the 1# canister would be vertical with its connection facing up. After inverting the pair, depress the "vent" valve on the 1# canister with a small screwdriver to purge propane gas. Release the vent when cold liquid propane starts coming out and turn off your 20# tank. This will assure the highest quantity of liquid in the canister. The bottom of the vent on the canister should be at the 80% point similar to the outage valve on you RV tank. You'll end up with faster and more complete filling without having to worry about the temp of the tank or canister.
@HOBOTECH
@HOBOTECH 6 жыл бұрын
This is true, but most people don't want to mess with those valves including me. My luck I'd take pliers to it and it would start leaking. We've been getting at least 1 lb into the small canisters without doing anything special as long as the 20 lb tank is at least a third full. Granted your trick would work for when the 20 lb tank is approaching empty.
@coreypaynter4011
@coreypaynter4011 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the PRO tip!
@ussreeves
@ussreeves 2 жыл бұрын
@@HOBOTECH How can you tell if your getting 1lb into the small tank? Are you weighing the small tank before and after filling?
@wrxs1781
@wrxs1781 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip lads, always thought these tanks were an environmental disaster when you chuck them out when empty. Have ordered the adapter and hope all goes well. Good video, new subscriber.
@dominique___1980
@dominique___1980 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this video found my suggested videos today. I have watched so many videos with the freezer. Now I know it's much easier than all those other videos make it look. Thanks!!!
@marybachmann
@marybachmann 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard you could do this, but I really needed to see it done. Thanks for the demo.
@brandonpeterman9964
@brandonpeterman9964 4 жыл бұрын
You can do it but this is not safe or legal. Flame king sells the only legal and DOT approved kit with Cylinders that are actually designed to be refilled and are legal to refill
@rachelmarylani
@rachelmarylani 4 жыл бұрын
I stopped using the 1lb bottles because you can’t recycle or refill them. My mind is officially blown! So excited to refill my little green bottles. So much easier to carry for day trips.
@frankpetersen6624
@frankpetersen6624 2 жыл бұрын
Oh who cares if you can’t recycle. Another liberal
@amarrrama
@amarrrama 3 жыл бұрын
How many times can you refill a single green tank before it gets damaged? Thanks
@sirantony9957
@sirantony9957 6 жыл бұрын
Little advise: never point the litte tank towords yourself when opening the big tank. If the adapter break you will get hurt serious.
@lowellirish
@lowellirish 4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Roberson ok mom
@zone4garlicfarm
@zone4garlicfarm 4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Roberson It is not illegal to refill one pound tanks for your own use. It is illegal to transport a disposable tank that has been refilled. This rule applies to commercial transport, not your private vehicle. Also, the little green tanks do have a pressure release valve.
@richardhouvener6423
@richardhouvener6423 4 жыл бұрын
Advice not advise.
@spacecoyote6646
@spacecoyote6646 3 жыл бұрын
I wear leather work gloves and eye protection, as well
@WhatTheHeck1290
@WhatTheHeck1290 2 жыл бұрын
@@zone4garlicfarm is this true?
@stopthebsplease1643
@stopthebsplease1643 4 жыл бұрын
You can release the pressure with the value on the smaller green bottle. It fills up all the way.
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure. I wouldn't fill it all the way up though it might pop if it gets warmed up after that (like if you left it in a car or garage or something on a hot day later). I'd leave a bit of air space in there but opening that valve surely lets you put more in and might make it fill faster.
@BudgetTravelGuy
@BudgetTravelGuy 6 жыл бұрын
Certainly a money saver for the full timers !!!
@g.cosper
@g.cosper 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the actual adapter operation. Thanks guys!
@sparks701
@sparks701 4 жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for. Just ordered 2 from your Amazon page. Thanks for the video.
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 4 жыл бұрын
You can get a hose that goes from 30# tank directly to the Gas Buddy (1 # type fitting). would save a lot of bother re filling.
@wingmanalive
@wingmanalive 6 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor and buy the refillable tanks. It's illegal and somewhat dangerous to refill these disposable tanks because the emergency relief valve built into the disposable tanks isn't designed for fill and refill over and over and is quite fragile. The refillable tanks are like $14 and have a bleed valve built in so you can always get a proper fill regardless of temp. You just need a small Allen wrench to operate it.
@bradwartman3647
@bradwartman3647 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed...I bought some Flame King refillable 1 lb. cylinders and they work great. Easy to fill, more LP per fill, lawfully transportable and safer than refilling disposable cans. The container walls are thicker and the cylinders are certified for 12 years in the US. Don't take a chance that your refilled disposable is going to leak or that it gets overfilled and the relief valve pops off.
@coreypaynter4011
@coreypaynter4011 5 жыл бұрын
It's good for about 1 half a year. The bottles can take a lot more pressure than rated for, and they WILL rust inside eventually.....like I said your 100% ok doing this for a 1/2 year. I would not do any more than that......fuck your laws ;)
@stumptownwoodworks
@stumptownwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, getting the flame king...I don't cut corners with safety. There are plenty of other places we waste money in our lives, this is not one of them.
@danielbarber8387
@danielbarber8387 4 жыл бұрын
@Vex T exactly I fill and haul them every time I go camping. Nobody can tell if you filled them or bought unless you volunteer info. NEVER VOLUNTEER INFO ON ANY SUBJECT!!!!!!
@pool2785
@pool2785 4 жыл бұрын
I just stay in my room.
@TorchyBurns1
@TorchyBurns1 3 жыл бұрын
YEAHSSSSSSS! I did not know I could do this! I have not used any 1 lb. tanks yet and im glad I didint because I would have thrown them in the blue bin!!! I bought the Dozyant a few mins ago from your Amazon link, thank you so much and glad to support you L.W. Los Angeles, CA.
@KevinCoop1
@KevinCoop1 2 жыл бұрын
Although it is not illegal to fill these, it is illegal to transport them on roads. (B) For cylinders manufactured on or after October 1, 1996: “Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).”
@timscoviac
@timscoviac 3 жыл бұрын
You can hook the big tank up to the buddy heater with a regulator
@davidschoof7272
@davidschoof7272 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought of refilling these. Just figured it would be a giant pain. I'm glad it's that easy.
@fairrider3346
@fairrider3346 4 жыл бұрын
PROBABLY BECAUSE THE LABLE ON THE TANKS TELL YOU IT IS AGAINST FEDERAL LAW TO DO SO.
@NAT-turners-Revenge
@NAT-turners-Revenge 4 жыл бұрын
@@fairrider3346 🤣😂
@TheRealJBMcMunn
@TheRealJBMcMunn 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@myrnadavis2409
@myrnadavis2409 4 жыл бұрын
How do you dispose of the small disposable tanks ?
@Wingnut353
@Wingnut353 4 жыл бұрын
That is kind of the point... you don't you reuse them just like the big tanks.
@trumpingtonfanhurst694
@trumpingtonfanhurst694 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I recently bought a portable buddy and 20lb. tank. After watching tons of these fill videos and experimenting I found for me freezing empty 1lb'ers for 1 hour, having the large tank at about 60 deg. F., and fill for 1-2 minutes gives me a reliable 14-15 ounce fill, which is fine for me. I do not mess with the relief valve. Propane scares me and I'm a little alarmed that you guys seem a bit cavalier about overfilling the little canisters. I want a Big Buddy now, as I want a hose connection and am afraid to use the hose for the portable buddy which is tank/high pressure which can be 120 psi and up. I want the regulated hose for the big buddy which runs at 1/2lb. psi pressure. That will make me feel better. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you my story and thank you for the well done and informative vid. Peace and good life to you.
@bingosunnoon9341
@bingosunnoon9341 3 жыл бұрын
I usually fill the disposable bottles until they split open then back off a bit.
@shirleylake7738
@shirleylake7738 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration. I think I would go with the bug tank and a hose.
@dwmcever
@dwmcever 5 жыл бұрын
Problem.... one of my disposable 1lb propane tanks develop a tiny leak at the relief valve about the 3rd time I refilled it. Kept getting a small whiff of propane a week after the refill. So i ditched the disposables for the refill kit for big boys. was $35 at amazon.
@Ripsaw17
@Ripsaw17 3 жыл бұрын
I love my little buddies I love my little buddies have used them in my tents my RVs of even use them in the house when the furnace went out heat work phenomenal they do use a lot of gas though I would recommend if you're going to buy a little buddy in you're going to use a consistently by the hose for the 20 lb tank or buy the adapter so you can refill the one pounders because they do suck down the gas
@Biffo1262
@Biffo1262 4 жыл бұрын
Do not put the small tank in the freezer. I had a cylinder blow the valve set because it was overfull. Fortunately it was outside with no source of ignition and no-one too close. These small cylinders unfortunately have no burst disc.
@CabernetKev
@CabernetKev 4 жыл бұрын
Harbor Freight also sells those refill adapters
@churchmouse2540
@churchmouse2540 4 жыл бұрын
May have been covered but i didn't want to read 400 comments. Love this video a lot. You should attach the small bottle as you did here and tilt the whole thing to put a 45 degree angle on the small bot to fill more liquid? Put the inverted large bottle on the edge of the table and tilt while refilling? Great post
@allaboutroofing2
@allaboutroofing2 4 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that it's a federal offence to transport a refilled 1# propane tank. Not sure how they would know, but for the rule followers, it's a consideration. That said, have been doing this for years. Don't forget to freeze the empty tank first tho, which is listed as an instruction on the packaging and allows for a full refill.
@jimdopkus2139
@jimdopkus2139 3 жыл бұрын
A federal prosecutor just might ruin your day
@four2x4
@four2x4 3 жыл бұрын
Of course one could also buy an adapter hose, and simply run it to the Heater (in this example). That said, refilling the small one(s) is/are great for other uses, like a torch, etc..
@masonpugh3637
@masonpugh3637 2 ай бұрын
So you don't have to bleed off any propane like you would a big propane tank with a screwdriver to reduce air
@REB65
@REB65 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip Hobo & Billy 👍 Take care and God bless ✌️
@CupidinColorado
@CupidinColorado 2 жыл бұрын
Safe👀…Summary: The U.S. Department of Transportation, cautions the public to never refill DOT 39 cylinders, such as the 1lb. cylinders used for camping. These types of containers were not designed to withstand the stresses of emptying and refilling. Never Refill 1 lb., Propane Bottles (DOT-39 cylinders)[4:21]:
@bootmender
@bootmender 3 жыл бұрын
I built me a vacuum pump where I can pull a vacuum on the little bottle before turning on the 20lb bottle to Full the little one. Sometimes I put the little bottle in the Refrigerator for maybe an hour and the big bottle out in the sun, before proceeding
@Captcass12
@Captcass12 4 ай бұрын
How many times can you refill a little one pounder?
@stanw909
@stanw909 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this has been covered in the comments, but if you put the little tanks in your freezer and set the big tank in the sun then do the process it will fill closer to full and quicker . Another recommendation. Coleman Black Cat heater will last all night on high and longer on low.
@bengrissom5713
@bengrissom5713 Жыл бұрын
what about just a hose adaptor from the big tank to the heater instead?
@EazyT8439
@EazyT8439 5 ай бұрын
Don’t they sell adapters to hook up the heater to the 20 pound tank?
@waterandwoodcreations
@waterandwoodcreations 4 жыл бұрын
Just get the adapter for the buddy heater to connect to the bigger tank
@biggun98056
@biggun98056 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering where you camped at in this video I'm trying to find blm land for myself and thanks for the video
@rancid216
@rancid216 3 жыл бұрын
Approximately, how long will a full one burn. I'm using them for a grill. So don't want to be thinking I'm grilling food and the tank has run out. That way I'll know after using one for X number of hours It's time to swap it out for a full one and refill it.
@peaceseeker123
@peaceseeker123 3 жыл бұрын
You can also use an adapter to connect the big tank to your mr buddy. Viola no more little tank needed
@muskiefishing9219
@muskiefishing9219 4 жыл бұрын
The secret to running a little buddy like they are. Is to get a propane approved hose with an adjustable regulator. A low pressure regulator will not work on a mr. Heater. The pressure isn't enuff to get through the second regulator because there's also a regulator on the mr. heater But an adjustable regulator will as long as you adjust the pressure high enough which is only 5 to 10 pounds of pressure otherwise you can run a straight hose but then you have around 100 pounds of pressure in it. And I don't like using propane with that high of pressure in case the hose would fail. Manards has adjustable regulators the regulator is adjustable from 0 pounds to 20 pounds
@alaingoyette7103
@alaingoyette7103 6 ай бұрын
So you didn't need to bleed the small 1 lb tank to get it full?
@bar-l-3929
@bar-l-3929 2 жыл бұрын
Off the subject but I’m needing a portable Solar paneled generator for my severely handicapped son. I live in Arizona and we are in the process of converting our garage into a small livable area. We have already installed a split unit AC/heater and will be putting a medium size freezer and large fridge in there also. My son cannot handle any hot or cold temperatures and some of his seizure medicines require refrigeration. So I’m looking for something large enough that could possibly run all three around the clock ifI this even possible. My brother-in-law who is an ac technician installed my split unit and said that it requires 5000 W to start it and then less to run. All this amp and wattage confuses me, lol. Was wondering if you might be able to help us out in case of an emergency by leading us in the right direction. Thank you and love your channel
@judyd1
@judyd1 2 жыл бұрын
A good start but you should know the portable solar batteries do not have long run times; even in Arizona you would need a roof full of solar panels to keep them charged. Running a freezer is more doable (they do not run constantly) than an air conditioner or even a space heater so the solar generators are more useful for short emergencies and especially recharging cell phones and/or brewing coffee. A gasoline powered generator would extend the usable time, recharging the solar battery OUTSIDE when house power is off. Best bet would be to buy a solar generator and practice with it.
@dncook1955
@dncook1955 4 жыл бұрын
I suggest buying the brass caps to put on the disposable's because they are notorious for leaking, "dont think so" put some soap on the valve of the disposable and see the little bubbles.
@0GSoon
@0GSoon 5 жыл бұрын
Can you weight it before and after fill. So you will know exactly how much is filled.
@gregoryleighty6982
@gregoryleighty6982 4 жыл бұрын
Good tips guys. You can also get these adapters at Harbor Freight Tools.
@oculosprudentium8486
@oculosprudentium8486 4 жыл бұрын
This process can even be more simplified if you used a long hose with the adapter on both ends. That way the big tank can always remain upside down and you'd have a secondary on/off valve nearer to the small tank being filled. It'll eliminate the need to be turning the big tank upside down and then upright again
@jizzythefroggy1108
@jizzythefroggy1108 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the long hose is you'll end up with a hose full of liquid propane that will be wasted when you disconnect.
@michaelhayward9532
@michaelhayward9532 4 жыл бұрын
Only problem with that is new 1lb bottles are filled with filtered gas needed for Little Buddy heaters, when you hook up a 20lb tank to one yes you use a hose with a filter, maybe that could be incorporated to fill the 1lb with clean gas somehow, great idea though.
@hkgfdx
@hkgfdx 3 жыл бұрын
Any reason you don’t open the valve to begin filling before you turn it over?
@mrprice2275
@mrprice2275 4 жыл бұрын
What’s better refill 1 lbs or just get a hose and adapter to 1 lbs connection
@condor5635
@condor5635 5 жыл бұрын
Really should get a scale and weigh them out back to 29-30 oz. no more. You do not want to overfill them which could lead to unwanted venting of the bottle if they get hot. Just a safety tip. Overfilling is not good.
@bikenmama
@bikenmama 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent buy!! I bought mine on Amazon back in March made by Mr. Heater which cost me $15.46 and it doesn't have the black hand grip that yours has which I wish I had... darn I paid too much!!!
@kennethhuff7158
@kennethhuff7158 5 жыл бұрын
Got mine at wallie world for seven bucks , all metal.
@pj4433
@pj4433 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Just used one full can in one night, in the UK they are £15 that’s just under $20 for 1 1lb tank. That’s why I was looking. I’ll see if I can find an adapter. Cheers.
@brinkybrink
@brinkybrink 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the adapter, put the empty tank in the Freezer, hooked it up and Shazam! It filled it right up. I also used it to refill my 14.1 oz propane torch bottles.
@dallylamont
@dallylamont 4 жыл бұрын
Just mentioning that I really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
@davidmercer5561
@davidmercer5561 Жыл бұрын
For a couple dollars more than the adapter, you can buy a hose that goes from the big tank directly to the big buddy.
@dongraham8236
@dongraham8236 4 жыл бұрын
Uhmmm...not sure what I'm doing wrong...weighed my Coleman 1 lber at approx 877G - and cannot get more than 12-14 grams of propane into the little Coleman- any thoughts? I tried all different positions...and my 20 pd tank is full...
@dipeshpatel8436
@dipeshpatel8436 4 жыл бұрын
How many times can you refill those small green tanks? Do those small green tanks expire like propane tanks?
@daniellemalan8832
@daniellemalan8832 4 жыл бұрын
I guess Billy is the sacrificial lamb on this one if anything goes wrong with this lil refill project.
@jalleman61
@jalleman61 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows that with the new overfill protection valve closes off the flow when you invert the tank.After working in propane for. 40 plus years,doing this incorrectly can lead to unforsene issuses
@jonathancannon5564
@jonathancannon5564 4 жыл бұрын
Can you refill the yellow tanks too.
@Sewspcl
@Sewspcl 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the bloopers! Great video on propane. Billy should go into modeling. Ha
@skipgarcia4466
@skipgarcia4466 3 жыл бұрын
Do the one pound tanks have to be completely empty can you fill one that's half full to top it off??
@bradh74
@bradh74 4 жыл бұрын
I worked for a gas company for years one of the largest 3 propane suppliers. I wouldn't recommend filling that way. Sure if you're careful you could get away with it but YOU CAN OVERFILL THAT TANK. The pressure is directly related to the temp of the propane! The amount won't matter the D.O.T. makes these companies weigh the amount of every cylinder to ensure your safety. Liquid propane will expand 17 times more than water with the same heat applied (rise in temp). So be careful! You may want to weigh your cylinders to make sure they aren't over full and to see if you gained anything.
@jimdopkus2139
@jimdopkus2139 3 жыл бұрын
and read the warning # 5 on the back of the bottle!
@bradh74
@bradh74 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimdopkus2139 What does number five say?
@jimdopkus2139
@jimdopkus2139 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradh74 Five hundred thousand dollar fine & 5 years in jail for refilling and transporting 1 lb propane tanks. KZbin video titled Stop! Never refill 1lb propane bottles.
@jimdopkus2139
@jimdopkus2139 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradh74 Five hundred thousand dollar fine and five years in jail by refilling and transporting one l lb Coleman propane bottles. Watch on KZbin: Stop! Never refill 1 lb propane bottles.
@bradh74
@bradh74 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimdopkus2139 I worked for one of the largest propane companies (Top three). It's illegal to fill another propane companies cylinders so most likely that's what that is about but I'm not an Attorney. If you own the tank they're probably not going to do much they don't want someone getting free tanks and cutting their prices so they had a Lobbyist go to bat for them and make a law against it but like I said "I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY" so.... choose wisely I'd advise against it but the choice is yours. I will say this that the propane inside that cylinder is about 210psig at 100-110 degrees F. So be careful where you store it (not in a hot area) the tank should be rated up to 250psig but the pressure relief valve can start to vent propane off at or around 230psig. A tank bursting with that high of pressure WILL CAUSE DAMAGE. If you read the label and follow the instructions it is a safe fuel to use and you shouldn't have any problems.
@jennifercampbell1664
@jennifercampbell1664 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel professor Hobo!
@jackbrown8052
@jackbrown8052 6 жыл бұрын
Hobotech why not use a 20 lb propane tank to power your little Buddy heater? Keep the tank outside and run a hose through a window/door to the little Buddy heater. With this method there's no need to change 1 lb cylinders several times a night. If you need to force propane out of the big tank into the 1 lb cylinder while the big tank is inverted and hooked up to the 1 lb cylinder lightly tap the big tank repeatedly with a rubber mallet, not a metal hammer, this should force more propane into the 1 lb cylinder. If you want to know how much propane you're getting into the 1 lb cylinder weigh the 1 lb cylinder before filling and after. That will tell you how full it is.
@HOBOTECH
@HOBOTECH 6 жыл бұрын
I do run my Buddy with a hose and filter off the 20 lb but I was showing how to refill the little tanks for people that don't want to do that. I'll have to try the rubber mallet method to see if it works.
@owencamo2
@owencamo2 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these adaptors, and i've now realised that myne is a Coleman Butane canister with a completely different connection to suit my mini stove. QUESTION - can i / should i buy an adaptor to refill these things? or do i need to buy a completely different canister an mini stove?
@chrispierce2942
@chrispierce2942 3 жыл бұрын
The butane is NOT refillable. They are 2 totally different animals
@ooCHAPPYoo
@ooCHAPPYoo 3 жыл бұрын
will it work to refill a propane torch cannister?
@petecarstensen2060
@petecarstensen2060 5 жыл бұрын
My concern is that the valves in the Coleman canisters tend to leak after use. So many times, once they are disconnected I get the small hiss of leaking which then makes the canister useless. I switched over to an external tank and hose for my BBQ years ago for exactly that reason. I have a couple Coleman tanks for emergencies in case I run out of propane for BBQ but view them as single use products despite only using a bit of the gas.
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 2 жыл бұрын
put it on the device you're going to use it on and rely on *its* seal.
@Hey_its_Koda
@Hey_its_Koda 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid question here. I got one of the coleman 1lb cyclinder and after unscrewing it from a singler burner it made a pop noise. Scared me. This normal?
@royireland1127
@royireland1127 4 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance on the "little buddy heater" - I understood it was not good to use a combustion heater in an enclosed space due to carbon monoxide emissions. Is the tent/van so leaky that the gases are vented or does the little buddy heater burn so efficiently that carbon monoxide is not a problem? Anyway, we use the small propane tanks for cooking in areas where fires are restricted or wood is limited, so refilling seems to be a good option.
@nowakezoneforever6021
@nowakezoneforever6021 4 жыл бұрын
There are YT videos discussing and demonstrating the safety of using the little Buddy heaters indoors.
@royireland1127
@royireland1127 4 жыл бұрын
@@nowakezoneforever6021 Thanks for the comment, I will look for the reviews; even though I seldom go camping anymore, the topic is interesting.
@nowakezoneforever6021
@nowakezoneforever6021 4 жыл бұрын
Roy Ireland before I saw the reviews I was right there with you. Now I use the heater and cook with propane stove inside my small cabin but I also have a CO alarm in case all the reviews are wrong. 😉
@Believe30
@Believe30 Жыл бұрын
Don't you have to release the air from the release valve?
@kam1583
@kam1583 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, just bought a buddy and the adapter, appreciate your very well done video!! Awesome.
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