"Don't Stay at 4 For Mechs" -Zalae | Firebat Battlegrounds

Today I'm thankful for mechs and Zalae for suggesting I use them. Thanks Zalae!
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Outro Song: Biggie by Albis

[@ramonestefano]

All went downhill after the level up

[@hermeticascetic]

"imagine a strongshell scavenger" "That's not a mech" 😂😂😂😂

[@TheDocperian]

Man, few things on youtube bring me more joy than Firebat and Zalae shitposting each other

[@Hyde_Hill]

Never getting the divine shield magnetic mech was bad luck.

[@pain8842]

was about to say that

[@santiagoley6403]

His opponent had 3 of them and he didn't get to level 4 until the end of the game, so it wasn't that unlucky.

[@beelzebub300]

No, he went to 5 at the end of the game. He went to 4 as early as the others.

[@santiagoley6403]

@@beelzebub300 that's right, my bad.

[@ocirMZ]

I like how the endcard shows him hunting pogos

[@WillACarpenter]

Check the card review

[@brentanthuenis9875]

best part of the video

[@lucastanner2474]

Zalae: level to five Firebat: no, I don't think I will

[@karmicrespite5737]

He lost because he went to tier 5 obviously

[@Cappyfps]

"How big does your pogo have to get to survive poison?" Lol

[@SageSchispell]

Annoy-o pogo is how big it needs to be, is what Firebat should have said

[@nezirdzanko6363]

Kipp

[@orojiratsu12]

At beginning. Shoulda hero powered Then sell token buy. Increases odds of favorable outcome from 50% to 66.7%

[@1998marijn1998]

But if you lose the 66% then you have two gold left over for nothing and only a 2/2

[@Essutos]

@@1998marijn1998 do Then you sell 2/2 and buy 2/1 After doing the math, if you go for 50/50 instead of 33/67 you lose on average .6 attack and .1 health AND in the worst case scenario you only freeze 1 minion so you have higher chances for getting an early tripple

[@tailossaro1066]

22:53 "it has the micro bots" with such a beautiful voice

[@Mahoukage]

I've got the giggles watching your banter, its so good :D

[@alvincentd]

12:44 well, disguised toast

[@ryanpennington8108]

Happy Turkey day everyone, don't get stabbed on black friday.

[@StygianEmber]

Best hearthstone duo 100%%

[@Ziirf]

The ending of Firebat killing poggo's is just perfect for this video.

[@danielmaster8776]

These guys were just screwing around the entire time and still did insanely well. Must be nice.

[@danielmaster8776]

@Ovidius Lucky you.

[@Raysandrains]

This is was hilarious and fun to watch. "Filling my head with this garbage" hahahahaa

[@SkipperinoHS]

0:06 Skipperino firebaterino

[@Daniel-fi7jp]

Zalae and Firebat are my two best youtube Buds... keep it coing Ed.

[@raskolnikov6645]

I can't be mat at him when he missplay man...love you firebat

[@xenlight8675]

I love the banter

[@404Eska]

1:08 could’ve maximized the odds to 66% by using the hero power first

[@dimachekhov]

Damn, it hurts seeing that guardian not getting shield for half of the game cause of positioning

[@Providenza]

Kind of dumb how poison murlocs just beats everything after a certain point. Doesn't matter how good your strat is, a 1/1 divine poison murloc always gonna beat it.

[@MrLocke420]

0:58 if you go for that line then hero Power first is much better because you have 2/3 chance to get the right thing instead of 1/2

[@TPKPatchy]

Yes but if you miss it's so much worse for you. So their play was the safer one.

[@CounterGriefZombies]

2 damage off on that cobalt at the end. But he wish he didnt buff his rover that one time over it.

[@kal2352]

This is why murloc is good. Toxfin!

[@dthlight]

Thanks firebat for tje clutch vid

[@wesleychen608]

wow dis is a very good video thatnk yiou for sharing

[@demiandesu]

>Galneryus Aw, somebody actually listens them

[@martiinmrak]

Everyone, START THE TOWN!

[@S1l3ntN1nja]

Mistake at 1:02, if you hero powered first it was a 66.6% chance to get the tidehunter, then you could sell the token and buy. Instead you got a 50%, how do they make a stupid mistake that early, lucky they hit it

[@noturavgdude8262]

23:10 lol no pogo that's unlucky

[@davidbuell9101]

Argus first at 8:17 leaves 2/5 instead of 2/3 on board

[@SageSchispell]

Annoy-o module your pogos, gg

[@garynemis9041]

at 1:10 I am shouting at him to hero power first. He doesn't.

[@kion9001]

gary nemis obviously you're not a PRO STREAMER

[@AdamCDagg]

Eh, hero power first is definitely better on average, not sure it makes much difference though. Best case is both murlocs (3 units), medium case is murloc and demon guy (2 units), worst case is demon guy which you would sell to get one murloc (2 units). Hero power first is 66% best case, 0% medium case, 33% worst case. Hero power second is 50% best case, 50% medium case, 0% worst case. Assuming that leveling is better than both medium and worst case, hero power first is better 16% of the time. In the end the difference is probably something like 1 gold and maybe 2-3 damage.

[@Gabriel64468]

hero powering first is: the exact same in 1/2 of all cases. Better in 1/6 of all cases. Worse in 1/3 of all cases. I was thinking about it as well, but it really doesn't pan out. Especially once you start to consider that heropowering the wrath weaver puts you into a really bad position. Basically your average outcomes are better when not heropowering first and your worst outcome is better as well. So you reduce the amount of RNG and skew RNG in your favour at the same time.

[@flamingwombat1]

@@Gabriel64468 Lol you both got it wrong. Hero power first is always best.

[@Gabriel64468]

@@flamingwombat1 that would be true if it wasnt completely false

[@foldager7980]

That should have been a 66/33 not a 50/50

[@divinityd662]

You look away for ONE SECOND and twitchchat starts saying the N word!

[@mavmav8345]

cmonBruh

[@Junebug89]

smh can't believe twitch chat would post about The Noid

[@tylerpalazzo2939]

3:38 You sound like Christopher Walken.

[@austinkerr1918]

dank

[@backseatsamurai]

Zalae gets owned at 300K tourney, and hes suddenly telling Firebat how to play?! LOL

[@puenboy1]

On turn 2 wouldn’t hero power first be better for the 66% shot instead of the 50/50?

[@powertreadssupremacy]

If u miss ru FUKED

[@kingofbudokai]

no, because if you don't hit a murloc you can't get a second unit. buying first guarantees you can do both things even if you miss the yogg flip.

[@FableValo]

Why not hero power first for the 2 out of 3 chance instead of buy then sell then hero power for a 50/50

[@Brimstone-Gaming]

i do pogos to start. by end I have two gold pogos at both over 40 and 70 stats

[@matatumbac]

Why i only have 2 option champ?

[@josephjoestar3631]

What "N" word did they use? "No more Ben Brode in HS?"

[@Rockboy1201]

Why do u get 3 options at start? I always get 2?

[@Davidsasz1239]

Preordering the new set

[@thomasking4692]

Get some perma bans going? I'm scared of zalaes chat monkaS

[@SerechII]

Zalae chat is chill, people argue with each other a lot and it's always fine

[@8xnnr]

Why do I only get two choices?

[@mindlessautomaton]

Have to buy/earn enough descent of dragons packs

[@mattrw2475]

unnecessary 50/50 at the beginning, if he hero powered first its 2/3 chance of getting murloc and then sell the token to buy the other one.

[@androidsychoshocker]

Anyone else feeling like Poisonous is just too strong of a keyword in Battlegrounds. I mean I can go a Brann-Battlemaster 48 atk 300 health creature just to die because toxfin is so common. I'm thinking Toxfin will be removed after a certain point relying solely on Gentle to give it to them. It's just too powerful of a build as it's almost all you can go to get first.

[@TheNewton]

Poisonous is required because of the absurd sizes minions can get to so it's creating narrow game play they can't get rid of it unless they fix health.

[@androidsychoshocker]

@@TheNewton It should be made more scarce. Like mostly to maexna and other such things. Im just saying you should be rewarded for going big going for Brann going for large plays. Because of the ready abundance of poison demons will always be bottom tier simply because of their lack of it. If Toxfin were gone and you actually had to work for poison things could actually come down to stats rather than who got more infinite atk poison creatures.

[@TheNewton]

@@androidsychoshocker it already is scarce though and look how abusive it still is especially the hunting bran lets you do. For battlegrounds and hearthstone what they need to do is stick to the rule of two for everything including buffs. Limit the amount of buffs minions can take or at least make it so a 1 star minion cannot become a 40/40 without harsh diminishing returns. RIght now it's just bad game mechanics that let high rollers keep rolling high.

[@Ungeziemt]

@@androidsychoshocker and murlocs need poison to have any chance in late.. they are so bad in mid game anyway.

[@androidsychoshocker]

@@Ungeziemt That's why they have Mega. It's possible to get a full board of poison but it's something you go for not just get 3 murlocs get 3 toxfins win most exchanges late game as they all have infinite attack.

[@123PukanGori]

Эхх щас бы 50х50 вместо 66...

[@heehee4341]

The position is so triggering

[@Thelemonses]

was this before junk became tier 5?

[@Falnky]

I don't think so. Zalae mentions going to 5 for Junkbot at about 16:50. I'm not sure what Firebat's "staying at 4 for mechs" thing is either, aside from trolling.

[@Jkirek_]

@@Falnky you stay at 4 for mechs because all the important mechs are at 4. The only thing higher is junkbot, but junkbot isn't important for most mech comps

[@mkultravictim38]

Flanky mechs are still very tier 4 because you want to hit replicating menaces and modules before you even put in a junkbot anyway since junkbot is actually pretty underwhelming until you triple it anyways and isn’t worth tiering up just for the chance to hit it when the tavern cost is still expensive, you usually want to tier up whenever you can triple a unit since mechs have very playable 6 costs but until then it’s just better to have the highest odds of actually improving your board by having access to all the important mechs and not introducing a bunch of dead cards into the pool. junkbot is just a finisher that sometimes happens now but mechs still do just fine without a single one since cobalt guardian is the real reason why mechs are strong.

[@Falnky]

@@Jkirek_ ​ @Aiden Fae Ah, I see! Thanks for the info, both of you.

[@slaian7]

Use hero power!!!!!?!!/?2?/₽/)?/!-&-&

[@MrDrProfessorMidget]

No views, three likes, and four comments. GO KZbin!

[@WillACarpenter]

Views don't count until a certain percentage of play.

[@MrDrProfessorMidget]

@@WillACarpenter So you can dislike something you haven't viewed according to youtube. That's even worse.

[@WillACarpenter]

@@MrDrProfessorMidget yup

[@MrTibbs220]

Just playing bad on purpose

[@imshleep6081]

This other guy talks too much

[@giannisxalkis1965]

Cringe and throw

[@HHHKingofKings58]

The other dude is annoying

[@ItsMeBoingo]

HHHKingofKings58 I disagree greatly lol he amazing

[@mrlappentv9773]

wtf man. Zalea is amazing.

[@SerechII]

We like Zalae the way he is, even tho he can be pretty dry and a bit annoying

[@Rave.-]

Stop wasting my time with 2nd place games.