Donahue: Black Against Black Prejudice (1994)

[@travislewis7785]

Back when Talk Shows actually had some social content during daytime television.

[@torinowens6103]

Yes the good ole dayz. 1love

[@TheRozberry]

Amen.

[@torinowens6103]

@@TheRozberry Indeed! Indeed! 1love

[@jikoolguy]

💯

[@whiteroses9485]

I grew up with the Donahue show in the 70s and 80s. I learned a lot about a whole lot of subjects I would've otherwise never known about, such as shows like this, the Farrakahn interviews, etc. Donahue was made fun of back in the day for being a "bleeding heart liberal" but he didn't care, he did his thing anyway and became a legend. Even though I lean conservative politically, I miss Phil a lot.

[@RTA6226]

Here it is almost 30 years later and this is still going on.

[@bjcbjc1889]

Yup

[@lapx1]

Human nature is ugly

[@coppercoloredlibra]

You got that right and it no winning I this but I do know not all black because are black on paper. It’s a status in American not about color I have friends darker than me from Africa white on paper.

[@BrianSapp945]

That’s because mental chains are worst than physical chains.

[@SabrinaLaprell]

And far worse then any era

[@peacebrooks4230]

This is why I love Donahue, he wasn’t afraid to discuss these issues on his show.

[@TOCC50]

Blacks hate everyone

[@BethanyWooton]

He tries his best to be impartial but the black guests keep inciting him

[@LamarcusMassey-eo1lp]

He's prejudice

[@StephJ0seph]

I love how even as a White man, Phil was able to have a frank and unfiltered conversation about colorism in the Black community with little fear of coming off as not "politically correct"

[@vermilioun5120]

It's because he is coming in completely neutral. He's done so many shows on black community issues. The only people worried/complaining about PC culture are the worse offenders.

[@gupworld7395]

Because he was the best as far as keeping his questions and responses to guests unbiased

[@jenniferbrown5640]

Back then there was no such thing as politically correct. We said whatever came to mind. Phil show n Ricky lake show was the best.

[@dimanshediamond6347]

Agreed!

[@devanshepard9118]

I miss daytime shows like Phil. He does not get the credit he deserves

[@djbigpean]

All black people are beautiful, from the lightest of light, to the darkest of dark!!

[@Gilbquick]

Uncle Peanut 38 Funny most blacks don’t believe you !!!

[@sosouth15]

I had to pause the video a few times to admire the beautiful black women

[@brabea23]

the darker the better, sorry.

[@brendagray4958]

@@Gilbquick, i do

[@trulyblessed5254]

@@Gilbquick Whether they believe it or not it's still the truth.

[@janellewilliams7908]

It's Refreshing to go back in time with one of the Masters of Daytime Talk Shows,Mr Donahue.When shows were entertaining,yet meaningful and informative.Miss the good old days😢

[@TOCC50]

1700’s were the good ole days

[@avagd6293]

I don't care if the black woman is jet black, tan, cream, or light skin. If she is a good woman with a beautiful personality and is educated with common sense, she is magnificent.

[@e.m.p.3394]

You are completely right. All I ask is for women to not be Ghetto Fabulous and shit ALL the time. There is a time and place.

[@Maggiebenjee]

@@e.m.p.3394 unless of course if she is Arab, Latina, White or Asian white doing so.

[@TheMRS]

sounds good but you don't care bc she doesn't fit the "colorism" narrative that darker black women are so quick to place on light skinned black females - like they don't have skin in the game, in the fight for undoing racism!

[@2023Mermaid]

Dark skin women are only desired to be fighters and mules. In today's time, we are changing that narrative.

[@mjai1120]

SuperMaria 64 We’re definitely not changing that narrative when we have all our dark skinned women looking like masculine warriors out at these protests. #StayHomeBlackWomen and let black men protect and defend you. 🙏🏾

[@SeVinKru3ger]

Slavery did this, we are still suffering from it.

[@Michelle-jz8vl]

This👆🏾

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

You keep doing it to yourselves. It’s sad.

[@senoracheapee1864]

TriL TV this is been an issue since before slavery. The black man’s obsession with white skin is partly the reason most North Africans are barely black

[@royaljai5009]

Using slavery for a excuse till this day to bend Colorism for DSM and LSW in 2020...

[@johnpenn9882]

Willie Lynch

[@janaejones8709]

I dated a dark skinned Haitian- American man in college in the early 2G’s and I will never forget he said to me if you were one shade darker I would have never dated you. SMH….yeah that relationship never worked out.

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

black women use to love LIGHT skin black men. and hated DARKER skin black men. yall hate that topic tho

[@bundj5463]

@@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox nope most black women love dark skin and hate lightskin

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

@@bundj5463 yes Now...Not back then...they adord them

[@bundj5463]

@@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox at least they changed unlike some people I know

[@pytbrittany1234]

@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox and y’all never liked dark skinned women. Y’all won’t talk about that though....

[@Jazzyblackdrummer]

I actually miss The Donahue Show. Phil Donahue had very interesting stimulating conversations without all of the "fake emotion""fake realism" I wish he never went off the air.

[@amaxwiththefacts]

People get old and retired. But his content lives on.

[@bholaoates1542]

He got taken off the air because he opposed the Iraq War.

[@bholaoates1542]

@@amaxwiththefacts He actually was fired by MSNBC because of his opposition to the war in Iraq. Imagine that -- MSNBC being pro-war.

[@shottashabazz6721]

Plus in this ultra sensitive/cancel culture society we live in now this talk show wouldn’t last.

[@keishabonner7309]

I agree! Now it's mostly celebrities they interview, and the most salacious stories.

[@hillelisreal2983]

The audience look hella uncomfortable and pissed regarding this topic.

[@starrcompany3275]

And so they should!!! Dumb topic

[@CrowdPleeza]

@@starrcompany3275 How is it a dumb topic? Colorism exist.

[@Sapphire586]

@@CrowdPleeza Obviously from the comment he/she was not black.

[@deeliciousgrapes]

Because this isn't a topic, it's BS

[@KtotheG]

Because once again, all the blame is on black men.

[@Lpement]

I love what the Ghanaian brother says @3:15: "If we do believe that whites have the power to divide us, then we're buying into the idea that we're inferior. I don't believe so. I don't believe anyone has the power to make me to hate you."

[@PancakeDiaries]

This

[@linrocio]

This is entirely true! Sometimes I feel like the hype comes from Hollywood. They act like they speak for everyone but when you're an ordinary person you can see that people mainly dislike you because your being rude or are obnoxious in some way. Because actually if American was racist to the point where no black people were able to do anything that help them financially or education wise then we wouldn't have black teachers, lawyers, doctors, and this lady wouldn't be able to say anything about anything because racism would ring Supreme.

[@seanjenkins331]

Wow! I don't think we'd ever see a conversation this brutally honest on television ever again

[@TOCC50]

Jared Taylor

[@tiffaneytheenchanted953]

My mother was extremely fair skin and my father has dark brown skin. I'm dark brown skinned and I always felt that my father may have chosen my mother b/c of the "light skin woman" complex. Yes, she was intelligent, pretty and accomplished, but I still wondered. I always felt my grandmother (who had dark brown skin) treated me a little more kinder then my lighter cousins. I think its b/c she knew the journey of the dark skin woman, maybe some of the challenges she faced, and resented the barriers that were removed for lighter skin women.

[@tekay7775]

I had a wonderful uncle that was like ur grandmother

[@pauloskidane2819]

Maybe so...just remember that every time a black man dates out is not because of “colorism”.

[@fortheloveofgod7258]

👉🏽How sad that a grandparent would show preferential treatment to one grand over another based on skin color. Dark skins give hell to the fair skins and to think the fair skins have to deal with the same thing in the family/home and from some whites. When does the fair skin catch a break? We DON'T.

[@ResearchXProject2016]

@@fortheloveofgod7258 You are being dishonest. I’m not discounting what may have happened to you based on your skin color but, to act as if you’ve had it the hardest is an outright lie. We can all see in the media who the more palatable skin color is on tv, movies, advertisements and in mainstream music videos. That skin color favoritism also happens in reverse from the original commenters statement. Family members preferring lighter skinned children over darker skinned. Are you going to let a moment of your life dictate your future. We will never overcome if we remain stuck in the past. Dark skin, light skin or brown skin we are black. Don’t continue to be jaded, forgive and come together. We continue to let white supremacy win. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@jojosaylor8996]

Your dark-skinned I wouldn't call you dark brown

[@Tessitura9]

I'm a light skinned black woman. Happy to support that the black men who hold skin color sp highly or usually trash to begin with. Their fetishization is a huge turn off. I married a hispanic man, who by their standards, is relatively light skinned. Colorism extends well into their culture as well. I don't think there's a culture where it doesn't exist. Find someone who loves you for you. Most of these guys are just projecting their own self hate. And any light skinned woman who's willing to subjugate themselves to this nonsense usually ends up in a shallow relationship.

[@ondreatorrence4322]

"Find someone who loves you for you." I like that ❤.

[@PerfectContradiction]

I agree❤so glad that you are in a loving relationship

[@FreshRose-z3s]

Sadly, this is still happening in 2020.

[@Blacksheepp660]

Hollywood I don’t agree

[@cgogetit]

It's more prominent nowadays. We all saw the 4 year old baby call herself UGLY! They promote mixed children like they're some sort of product.

[@a.t.oliver1886]

Might not ever change as a Boomer been in the color struggle for a long time!!!

[@june7gemini]

Because black people are using Slavery as an excuse ...if we in the year 3000 still going to be talking about slavery and colorism?? ..this is becoming ridiculous ...and this needs to stop

[@tianitra]

@@Blacksheepp660 you don't have to agree . It's a fact.

[@buicklincoln]

Like Chris Rock said there's a civil war in the black community.

[@girljenk7872]

Omg yes 👍🏿

[@e.m.p.3394]

@Sydney Austin And anything as light as a paper bag is evil huh? Y'all some haters.

[@iaintmadatcha]

And the white community u aint seen capitol hill?

[@r.p.5903]

Who started the war? black people or white people?

[@KeyserSoze23]

I guess Will Smith disagreed with Chris on that.

[@araisininthesun5958]

I have a smooth, silky, ageless, dark chocolate complexion. No one can convince me that I am not both beautiful and pretty. When you are in love, and content with yourself, and the way God made you, it is a beautiful power no one can take away.

[@1964DB]

Exactly. You can only control your attitude, not others.

[@kellycarpenter933]

And Im white as a ghost and have got made fun of by my friends my whole life. My nicknames were lighbulb and snow. It can work both ways. As the mother of three mixed children of varying complexions people are beautiful of all colors in my opinion. I always wanted darker skin but I have been learning to love myself.

[@araisininthesun5958]

@@kellycarpenter933 I imagine you as a beautiful individual. 🙏🏿

[@darkskin6558]

I'm told I'm beautiful everyday and my skin is dark, my hair is kinky, and I have full curves. I love me and so thankful The Most High made me this way ❤️💯

[@nizaaguero8783]

Kinky hair was invented by masters in slavery. another word to degrade a black person. Blacks hair is curly. This is what this lady is saying now. Words was created to degrade, and separate blacks and lower their self esteem. and she is so correct.

[@sandraatkins2539]

🥰🥰😇😇

[@user-zx5xw4yw2e]

@@nizaaguero8783 Some is curly. Some coily..some kinky coily. AND some wavy almost straight.

[@oholm09]

Black is beautiful

[@nizaaguero8783]

@@user-zx5xw4yw2e this is how the slave masters have brain washed people like you. Like the most high say" you rather believe a lie than the truth" sick people.

[@yusiyola2011]

I wish conversations like this could still be had without trying to cancel and destroy people. This is where growth happens

[@TOCC50]

Growth happens when they’re all living in Africa and not here

[@chevydude658]

I'm a white man that is in love with a black woman. She's not light complected. She's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen and I have been sprung over her since the first time I saw her. My brother married a black woman who isn't light complected either. However, I have friends from Mexico that face the very same discrimination. The darker brown they are, the more discrimination they face. So it's not just in the African American community.

[@musiclover109]

Yes Hispanic and Asian communities go through similar shit actually so its not something that is specific to one community or another.

[@thedarkonequeen8449]

This video is still relevant. This issue needs to be put on a huge platform and address amongst our people . How in the hell can our people allow a recessive group of people to get in our mental so deeply that our people allow them to set our standards of beauty. My mother is a light skin Queen and this mess didn't fly in her house and I'm grateful . Our people need to learn how to think for themselves

[@55cleon]

INDEED👌🏿!

[@QueenBthatsMe777]

Right on!

[@dunique26]

Its 2020, blk folks still not thinking for themselves? Wht folks are scared to admit is blk people are thinking more for themselves then they have in the past, and they are still feeling this way.

[@thedarkonequeen8449]

@@dunique26 I have to disagree. If you can make a statement like that you obviously do not get out much. I have seen children that were in school and I would watch little melanated boys fighting darker little Goddess like they were men. I jumped out my car with a knife prepared to slice some balls. Our people still dropping the ball. My daughters are heavily melinated with 4c hair but get a pass because of featurism. Our people got more isms than a little bit. But that never stopped me for being the voice for the darker little Queens. Explain how our people can see beauty in the opposite of themselves but can't see beauty in their reflection. Yes it is a war on darker women. They get it from the caucasian as well as their own people. Truth be told they are the original people and not the diluted version. Caucasians know the science. That's why the black woman has that foot on her neck. Our people can only rise as high as the woman because she is the original nurturer

[@thedarkonequeen8449]

@Nig gah Shieeeit what does that mean brother? Why would you swirl yourself out of existence. We don't understand it on a spiritual or scientific level. Think

[@tiffanycotter9675]

Nowadays, light skinned women with long hair have been replaced with non black women.

[@missbhavin4philly]

Say it

[@space3555]

Yep

[@joem551]

A woman who is well-behaved and feminine will always win over all other things with men. The reason why black men keep going away to other races is because more and more black women light skin or not are increasingly becoming more masculine than ever.

[@christinecampbell4968]

This was 26 years ago and many blk people still have the same issues.

[@crystaloliver362]

They say history repeat it self

[@AvonnaVentura]

@@crystaloliver362 More like continues..

[@plantbasedministries9233]

Have always will always.

[@HoneyOshunxo]

The way he says “high yella” kills me LMFAOOOO

[@daishiamouton]

“Hi yulluh”

[@asanitheafrofuturist]

@@daishiamouton 😂😂😂

[@asanitheafrofuturist]

It jumped out his mouth 😂

[@WhitemenaresoSexy]

That's funny??

[@Venomous_471]

2023 and its still like this 😢

[@baderinwa1]

Phil Donahue had the best talk show by far.

[@9ineteen79]

Baderinwa Fola cause he was the originator

[@rosamariamendoza1466]

My nana said it was Jack Paar the first talk show host.

[@bholaoates1542]

@@rosamariamendoza1466 Different kind of TV talk show that was -- celebrity and entertainment based (which we still have today, of course), versus Donahue who was a pioneer of the topical TV talk show that discusses important issues of the day while emphasizing interaction with the audience, even by telephone sometimes.

[@mauricesantinomf]

@@9ineteen79 no he wasn't Tony Brown was covering these issues 20 years earlier than Phil

[@onetravlnnurse]

​@@mauricesantinomfWho?

[@kingcc2]

I don't like how "us" black people are so quick to say something about our skin color. WE are so quick to call someone "light skin," "beige" "Wesley Snipes looking" "red bone." "white " & etc.... I love the TV show "Black-ish" but I HATE when Dre (Anthony Anderson) say something about another black person's skin color, mostly his son, Jr (Marcus Scribner). Sometimes WE are our own worst enemy

[@theoriginalthinker9199]

Sometimes?

[@1990758]

Us you mean some of us

[@1990758]

@@FrankLoon who said that do tell

[@1990758]

Your comment is Reckless but I do understand your frustration oh I walk by faith not by sight

[@1990758]

@@FrankLoon I realize what my faith teaches me for I walk by faith not by sight I know that's not what you want to hear but Life Goes On

[@josephthomasjr.6551]

I'd almost forgotten what a wonderful host Phil Donahue is. Thank you for posting this video. It brings back a LOT of wonderful memories!

[@justtracy7175]

the sister is speaking the truth about black men... look at the NFL, NBA

[@guylittle7052]

And regardless of sexual orientation. Michael Sam, Ryan Russell, Anthony Bowens.

[@crucialtymes7305]

What percentage of the total Black male population are professional athletes?? My unscientific estimation would be 0.0000000001% so that's not a good example

[@guylittle7052]

@@crucialtymes7305 No. It's a great example. The majority of the few who make it big in sports are from practically every background, yet, on average, they have more dating options than their Black peers. If you've seen the movie, Straight Outta Compton, you know that N.W.A.'s groupies started off as mostly dark skinned Black women. But at the peak of the group's success, practically all races were courting them, and that's when they became more selective as to who they let into their beds - no dark Black women, in particular (the director's casting process reflected how this actually happened). Entertainers still represent and inspire large groups within their own community. If you give stats who most Black men marry in America and say Black men are mostly with Black women, it's most likely due to circumstance and availability and says nothing about their tastes or ideals.

[@raworthyel3786]

@@guylittle7052 it's 53 men on a nfl roster. Maybe 3 of them are rich. Men date who and where they frequent.

[@raworthyel3786]

1700 people are in the NFL.

[@etherealdreamerart]

Colorism is a problem in the black community and it is true this is a mindset from slavery days, however, black people now need to hold themselves accountable for prolonging this mindset in the community. Treat all black people with respect, but unfortunately it goes in one ear and goes out the other.

[@brendasears8668]

That is correct

[@aermax7321]

^^^...bInGo!

[@etherealdreamerart]

@@michael.5360 Well then the black community is a lost cause then. How are we ever gonna be respected when we don't respect our own? It's sad but that is the reality.

[@1990758]

I know some of us needs to hold ourself accountable stop making excuses the white man that's the white man that they're trying to kill all the famous black man they brought drugs into our neighborhood

[@etherealdreamerart]

@@1990758 True the feds brought drugs into the black community, but it was the black community's responsibility to not get hooked on drugs. Arguing with other black people is draining all the time but I stand by my view.

[@xp50player]

Men aren’t allowed to have preferences. If you like light skinned women, you’re racist/colorist. If you like thin women, you’re fat shaming and what, weightist?

[@hassanburton669]

THERE ARE 50 SHADES OF BLACK. ALL BEAUTIFUL 👸🏾👸🏽👸🏿👸🏾

[@sayitrightplease2186]

HEY HASSAN BURTON. IM GLAD TO SEE U OVER HERE.

[@torinowens6103]

HOLLA!!! 1love

[@beverleyreid7572]

But most don’t see the beauty in it. So sad

[@jonwiley5549]

This is part of the problem. Black beauty is so specific, covers such a wide spectrum in terms of facial features, hair texture, skin tone. It’s too much for caucasians to absorb.

[@Cablecol]

and this one too👸

[@boomerang905]

The lady who said she was not Black was speaking literally. She means that her skin is brown, just as a white persons skin is more pink than actual white.

[@nicmart]

It serves the interests of racists to label people Black and White. There are no such people.

[@lekkyjayz6294]

Yeah. She was totally misunderstood.

[@boomerang905]

@@lekkyjayz6294 absolutely. See how ppl acted totally ignorant to what she meant. 😥

[@boomerang905]

@@nicmart exactly. Then we speak it as we see it, we're wrong. Smh

[@JohnSmith-ne6js]

And that is exactly how i see myself. Yet I come from the shade black. And I wish I was black as the shade of black! Because they are the original. And the most highest ranking. FACT

[@nw6866]

When I (a black woman) went to college, my father and my white step-mother dropped me off and none of the black people would acknowledge me because of my step-mother and them assuming I thought I was white because of her. If I walked near anyone black, they'd make a face or turn away and if I tried to talk to black men..forget about it because they didn't want to catch flack for it. I'm a very pretty woman, not that it should matter. I grew up sheltered and went to private school with mostly white people. I actually was looking forward to being in a more diverse environment and then my own race ostracized me and made me feel like I wasn't black enough. I was very upset until a black security guard told me to ignore them and be me and do what you have to in order to be successful. Their opinion doesn't matter. I had to learn not to care what people think of me. My dad expected greatness. I grew up thinking I could be anything I want to be and I have done just that. I am very successful. By the way, my dad was light-skinned (biracial) and my mother was dark. He was obsessed with her and was devastated when they split up. A few years later, he met my step-mother and married her in the late sixties which cause a whole other level of criticism. People need to stop teaching their kids things that set them up for failure. Lots in our race continue the bad rhetoric and demeaning beliefs and that hurts all of us. No one can force you to have those beliefs or to discriminate etc. You make the choice to belittle and hurt each other. I'm proud of my accomplishments, but I didn't get them because I'm black. I don't let race dictate everything in my life and become obsessed over it. I don't want to be white. I just want to be me and I am.

[@enchantresse23]

This conversation is hurtful. Especially when you know your history and where these things come from. Black people are beautiful period. No matter the color. ✨✊🏽

[@johnpenn9882]

Gtfoh

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

What history?

[@nicmart]

Things have changed a lot. But Blacks still use the N word to describe each other. I find that offensive

[@KtotheG]

If you believe that, then why do you cover your natural hair?

[@enchantresse23]

Kory Green this is about skin color. I cover my hair and I show it as well. I have a huge Afro and when I want to change a style I change it 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ovrissa5619]

HiStory keeps perpetuating itself

[@johnpenn9882]

Wya hmu

[@johnbell3166]

cause we never learn (or analyze) our problems.

[@ovrissa5619]

John Penn Lol ok 💁🏾‍♀️

[@mrsbdubc2174]

There is nothing new under the sun

[@godlygirls62]

I am a dark skinned black woman with long wavy hair. Black men have often treated me like a second class citizens. On the flip side, white men have always considered me to be very feminine and very, very beautiful

[@amenshau2577]

Please lmk when we can have lunch...

[@mahirrahman7]

The same in many Asian cultures. As an Indonesian watching this from abroad I feel my black sisters in America. Twenty years later, this never gets old.

[@jojosaylor8996]

Thank you 💙

[@vermilioun5120]

Very true. SE Asians experience the same discriminations compared to whiter/north Asians in both Asian and western countries. We have the same struggle. ❤️

[@KeithBoykins]

@@vermilioun5120 no we don't.

[@acb723]

@@vermilioun5120 trust me my sister, I've seen it . Chilled with alot of cambodians and vietnamese back in my late teens early twenties. Both of my boys are very dark skined chinese cambodian dudes. Everytime we would go into a chinese market or Viet market. We would get fallowed around the store.

[@Kabkabmbujimayi]

Everywhere Whites went they fucced us up for real . Asians, Africans Natives

[@lyricspeaks7970]

I am a dark skin woman with a fine texture of hair and this video moves many emotion inside of me. I’ve called beautiful, ugly, pretty to be dark and I can go on. Black people have questioned my hair texture because of my dark skin and I’m often times just stared at. When the woman stated black people have preferences as well prejudiced she couldn’t have been more right. I must say the prejudice in the black community is stronger. We all need to stop beating our own people down over skin color. We hate each other more than any other race could hate us and that is why we are still having the same conversation centuries later.

[@InkedUpBarbiee]

that "pretty for a dark girl " .... people who say that really thinks they are giving a compliment but they are doing the opposite

[@connievino4226]

@@InkedUpBarbiee nuts. You don't get it.

[@rosalindplummer879]

We have been institutionally indoctrinated into self hate for centuries by those who control societal preferences so it should be no surprise that we manifest symptoms of self hate between and among ourselves. Self hate and divisiveness is the most effective weapon used against us which is why we need to examine its origins and how it impedes our development and alters our psyche and become self aware about how to eradicate this self hate from our consciousness. You also have other melanated people throughout the world like Asians who bleach their skin and alter their features because of the impact of worldwide indoctrination of white supremacy and preferences for the features and skin color of the world’s non-melanated minority. It’s past time to wake up and mature in countering the tactics used by the world’s oppressors.

[@mansamusa2012]

As a dark skinned brother with average hair texture one minute I’m ugly the next I’m cute . It’s confusing because in my forties I still don’t know where I fit in

[@jolynnmarie725]

@@mansamusa2012 The lord says you are fearfully and wonderfully made. You don’t have to fit in or line up with the worlds standard of beauty. Regardless of what man says about you, you should believe what Jesus says about you above all. God bless you!

[@ThatManDWill]

I think black men see lightskin or exotic women as a trophy.

[@michaelgarrett2266]

I am a black man turning 70 on Sunday, born and raised in New York, i have dated the darkest blacks, whites, light skinned blacks. I have no preference. Jet black is totally beautiful, but to me all women are beautiful

[@mercylago4744]

When that lady said "I'm a white person" all the people laughed their awkward tension out! Lol They were waiting to be able to relax.

[@Inmyvisions1]

The Donahue show was the ish back in the day. I watched it all the time because he wasn't scared to discuss taboo topics.

[@Leandro-X.2024.Alkebulan]

They can discuss YOUR taboo topics but never THEIR taboo topics. I like the guy, don't get me wrong but I'm just saying. If it was the other way around, and he was black and talking about yt issues and interviewing yts on their taboos, would they have let the show go on as long as it did? 🤔

[@Inmyvisions1]

@@Leandro-X.2024.Alkebulan Years ago, I remember when MSNBC held a televised townhall meeting on why Black women were single and weren't getting married to Black men. I kid you not, I remember seeing this type of show air twice. And there were some celebs there becasue I remember Sherry Shepard being one of the most opinonated people in the room. I remember it being hosted by Tom Brokaw and another person too at the time.

[@Leandro-X.2024.Alkebulan]

@@Inmyvisions1 ''twice'' huh? damn. You see that...food for thought. These kind of people behind these progs/shows almost always have an agenda, ESPECIALLY in a place that is not owned nor controlled by us.

[@Inmyvisions1]

@@Leandro-X.2024.Alkebulan Yes, that's how they get laws changed too by keeping us distracted with other bs conversations that go nowhere.

[@Michael-qu3vw]

Yes Sir Donahue i am a MAN OF color and the fact is i don't see color or long hair i see Education, Attitude, Respect and Heart and the woman has be working a decent job and that is that with me

[@CainaanDC]

Its sad that in 2020 we are still calling each other light skinned and dark skinned .

[@sharonstroud8279]

IT IS very sad but THIS IS HOW America VIEWS US!!!!!

[@sharonstroud8279]

@M Bailey What you say is TRUE but this topic is one, that I fear, will NEVER change until the thoughts of MAN change, and that's the biblical "MAN", as it applies to men and women!!!

[@e.m.p.3394]

Exactly. Our people have such a self hatred issue. I get this shit at school. "You're not really black" because my hair isn't as curly as everyone else's. Or my skin isn't dark. It hurts.

[@ashleywright4817]

What's wrong with that there's nothing wrong with that that's not the problem

[@ladyofspa]

@@ashleywright4817 right. It's that one is promoted as superior, not that they are browner or lighter. We do to each other what whites have taught, ignorence breeds ignorence.

[@Sharie.]

When I was a child my mother was a school teacher and we had an extensive library. When I was 10 years old I read “Color Complex” after I read it I analyzed the world in front of me totally different ! Saw it in my life, and lives around me! This book was truly a page turner! Changed my whole outlook on life!

[@sherei9530]

Your mom did a great job. Your woke up at a young age but America wants its residents uninformed and childlike.

[@sherei9530]

@sherie That book is still being updated and reprinted

[@Zara_Luna]

@Sharie Hi, much respect to your mother for introducing the book called. "Color Complex.". 📚 I enjoy reading new books.

[@djeto2525]

"Perception is everything." Jane Elliott Her quote still matters today.

[@sandradee1579]

And a lot of people's perceptions are 100% of their reality.

[@boldandcourageous4176]

Donahue was not afraid to talk about hard issues respectfully!

[@rrogers2370]

I’ve experienced black on black prejudice a ton since being a kid. Parents telling their kids to not talk to me just because. Sad really.

[@dontdomeboo81]

Im glad you sad prejudice an not racism cuz its not the same

[@tanyabell-abercrombie3042]

@@dontdomeboo81 it is still racist. The idea that someone is better because their skin is white or lighter is just as racist as if it were coming from a white person. Sometimes it is worse. We need to stop with the excuse making.

[@NubianQueen100]

​@@tanyabell-abercrombie3042 Facts!!

[@Honeygrip]

Thank you for this gem 💎 and shout out Phil Donahue! The OG of daytime talk shows of substance and real discussions!!

[@viralbuthow000]

A white host covering this topic? That would not happen today.

[@GoldBar1997]

Sky Blylevin I hate when these peckawoodz host

[@viralbuthow000]

@Shock He did. I'm just saying it would be strongly discouraged today. He'd be chastised to death.

[@noirwolf9720]

Because today everyone is weak I mean weak

[@KtotheG]

@@viralbuthow000 It would be silly because white people created race. The concept of race is less than 500 years old.

[@michaelcampbell5817]

Majority of TV Host start having these topics shows. Sally Jesse Raphael, Jenny Jones, Geraldo Rivera, Oprah Winfrey, Montel Williams, Gail King, and Rolanda Watts.

[@GyrlBlaque]

Colorism will never end

[@metcalfhottie6305]

Never

[@june7gemini]

You wish 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@metcalfhottie6305]

@Axel Foil true. Good point.

[@robertdore9592]

The best way to end colorism is to FOCUS on something more important. We HAVE to grow up and admit that where we are today is the result of our best efforts.

[@trulyblessed5254]

Of course both a colorist and a racist enjoying bringing dissensions amongst fellowman. They both feed off the insecurities they project unto others in ordered to feel empowered.

[@peterpatton2867]

I liked when talk shows were like this. Raw, real topics.

[@LiveLifeLaughLove]

I love Donahue. He was such a fair host. He always brought awareness to many social problems and required informative respectful dialogue.

[@bridgettkinner205]

Our "colors" are black, brown and yellow..embrace them all equally my brothers and sisters...POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!

[@truthfulrating5802]

Exactly because all my life I've dated men from different walks of life different colors the black men have always said that they didn't want me because I was too dark and nine times out of ten lighter-skinned number in tractor to me as opposed to dark skin men

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

black women use to love LIGHT skin black men.. yall hate that topic tho

[@pauloskidane2819]

Because blaming black men is an easier feat to accomplish

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

well@@pauloskidane2819

[@phyllissowhat]

I’m a black woman that prefers a dark skinned man

[@winluvwinluv3734]

I am a black woman who always liked, and dated really dark guys. I didn't even use to give light, or brown skinned guys a chance. I was surprised when I married a brown skinned man, but we were friends first.

[@GlamRight]

This was just straight up great conversation!

[@justynjonn]

Nowadays everyone yells or leaves the room when they don't have the intelligence to debate .

[@AmmaMama]

Aww, Phil Donahue is still alive. Bless his heart. I had to Google, he's 84.

[@brendagray4958]

@Errol Williams, wow! Cause she said he's 84 and still alive, that made you that angry? Respect your sista, brotha.

[@mumuseer87]

Amma Appiah Donahue like about 84 in this clip...

[@trllionbasso601]

I HAD TO GOOGLE HIM ALSO! SIIS. I WAS WONDERING WAS HE STILL LIVING HE HAS BEEN OUT OF SIGHT!!!

[@mumuseer87]

jamel eason Donahue the white version of Morgan Freeman

[@pauloskidane2819]

He was an antagonizing asshole...

[@MegaWam1]

R.I.P. Mr. Phil Donahue. You were one of a kind and pulled no punches. I can see you interviewing God in heaven with that microphone.

[@BreanaGizelle]

This conversation is extremely real and needs to be had often. People keep brushing this issues to the side, they are so important

[@renemoran7406]

I'm from Loiusiana, my mom family originally from Texas, my dad from Louisiana. My mom is mix half black & half native American (Choctaw and Apache) But I'm proud of being African American. Love both of my parents dearly.

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

black women use to love LIGHT skin black men.. yall hate that topic tho

[@MoneyComethToshelia]

​@@ThePrinceOfTheTalkboxnot me!

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

MOST DID.. @@MoneyComethToshelia

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

im from north Louisiana... i know all about this @@renemoran7406

[@MoniquesChannel]

I once dated a guy that had the most BEAUTIFUL skin. It was smooth and clear like a black pearl. He hated it, and often called himself ugly. When I tried to tell him that it wasn't true he didn't believe me. It was so sad. We really have to remember to love ourselves as is. If you don't love yourself first then who else will?

[@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736]

A guy like that tried to date me and turned him down because he was too fascinated with my skin complexion and hair texture

[@jamesgibson3716]

Self hate is real!!

[@downthehill2896]

​@@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736weird flex but ok

[@erics362]

I worked with a guy who told me he applied the paper bag test to girls he was considering dating. They couldn't be darker than a brown paper bag.

[@jabariheintz669]

He's asking questions and giving the answer at the same time.this guy is a class act.

[@Liberalbeaststl]

I am bi racial (black/white) and some of the most beautiful people I’ve seen have very dark skin. Light skin is over rated, mythical and a ridiculous, over hyped ideal of beauty. It seems black men and women are as culpable in this form of discrimination. It has become a sad reality within the black community as well the much of the world that has to change.

[@lebonhlapo2607]

As a light-skinned Black Woman I agree, this whole "light-skin" fetish IS DEFINITELY OVERRATED!!!!

[@moneyandsex1900]

but haveing lightskin as a blackman does'nt benefit us!

[@libbystwinfreelibby1839]

I wouldn’t say light skin is overrated. It too is beautiful just like brown and dark skin. However, people putting one skin color over the other is the real problem. Skin color should not define someone’s beauty. In the case of physical beauty, the proportions of ones features determines their beauty. In the case of true beauty, of course it’s someone’s soul and character

[@tiisetsohadebe405]

Word! My babies are different shades of brown than me... man melanin is beautiful in all its glorious shades.

[@kathleenking47]

Its among ALL NON WHITES its terrible in Korea and India They really bleach

[@DarkandlovelyLovely]

I’ve had so many colorist dark skinned men, make nasty comments about my skin, nose and hair. That’s why I’m happy they barely approach me now. Rejection is Gods protection.

[@pauloskidane2819]

Yes bih go somewhere else...

[@TheOfficialJosey]

Amazing interview. 26 years on, yet still very relevant

[@albread]

My aunt told me to marry a lighter skin woman so we can have “pretty kids”. That was unconsciously taught. My aunt didn’t hate dark skin people. She was just conditioned to think that way.

[@1990758]

I've heard that conversation before I have a Latin female friend her mom told her she prefer that should not marry a black guy but that she married a white guy

[@samiawilliams151]

Did you marry a light skin women?

[@albread]

Deity N she married a dark skin man. They were 2 generations from slavery. They knew that the lighter their skin was the easier life may be. They were conditioned that way.

[@rubydiaz2532]

Same

[@albread]

Deity N I guess she married who loved her. She is not racist or anything. She worked, cooked and cleaned older white peoples house for years. I guess the Jim Crow South will do that to you.

[@williesmith3466]

That is so true. When they see a darker skin black woman, black men treat us like dirt!!

[@brendasykes6931]

Why do You feel that way? Dark skinned Women have some of the most handsome Men in the whole world

[@williesmith3466]

@@brendasykes6931 Send one my way.

[@WuChuan036]

Both my parent were both fair skinned and dark skinned, and my father treated my mother like a Nubian Queen Just as my mother treated my light skinned father like a Nubian King.

[@williesmith3466]

@@brendasykes6931 I said what I wrote because I have come across lots of black who have said to me that they don’t want anyone darker them. I reply, than keep stepping!

[@DavidRichardson95]

Crazy how things haven't really changed. We're in 2020, and we _still_ got a long way to go in terms of self pride, dignity and self respect. Not to mention self love.

[@theoriginalthinker9199]

Actually, there was a time when we had all that. The problem is, things HAVE changed, for the worse, and we lost ALL that!

[@ladyofspa]

The powers that be will never allow you to forget the divide is there. They make money, and maintain power as long as they can control that you are inferior, and the lighter to darker spectrum exist solely for you to spin out of control,fighting, distracted, with zero power of knowledge of self.

[@dawnyd6282]

Everything starts at home and not tolerating the biases and prejudices we grew up with or those same disgusting labels our parents or grandparents spoke about.

[@sarahsimpkins1311]

Also it haven't change in 2023

[@bigbanknewyork3655]

​@@ladyofspagimme a break. Self-inflicted damage. Don't blame whitey

[@tommiejackson5252]

They love turning us against each other and we still falling for there bs...

[@divine9100]

Factz💯 their nature Masters on psychological BS to keep them afloat it's on us to change that Narrative!

[@1990758]

Turning us interesting

[@aegontargaryen6269]

Their*

[@aegontargaryen6269]

P Johnson 😂😂😂 exactly I’m in quarantine and I have a lot of time. “There bs” means that “bs is somewhere”

[@9ineteen79]

Tommie Jackson It ain’t THEM no more though. It’s US now......

[@kelvinholmes5348]

This conversation is so very true in the black community because Rosa Parks wasn’t the first black woman to refuse to give up her seat on a segregated bus to a white person, a dark skinned black woman nine months earlier was arrested for refusing to give up her seat to a young white woman but the NAACP chose Rosa Parks to start the civil rights movement because of her lighter skin color, they thought that her lighter complexion would represent the movement better.

[@bjcbjc1889]

Thanks for the info. I never heard that story. I'll have to do some research.

[@nubian99]

Claudette Colvin.

[@donnawatt7124]

It’s was because she was an unmarried pregnant child.Nothing to do with race it was about class😢Her name is Claudette Colvin

[@kelvinholmes5348]

@@donnawatt7124 if it wasn’t about the the lighter skin complexion, why didn’t the NAACP mention Ms Colvin one single time, she was only pregnant for nine months, I think it was about the skin complexion.

[@kelvinholmes5348]

@@user-ll5cc6pg4y it shouldntve mattered about anyone’s status, it was about the movement, not about if someone was educated, unmarried, or pregnant, that’s called discrimination, the exact issue that the NAACP was suppose to be fighting against, talk about a double standard to the core, shame on the NAACP, no excuses, this was about a lighter skin complexion, the same kind of discrimination that the slave masters committed back in the slavery days, the light skinned slaves were offered positions in the Big house and the dark skinned slaves worked in the heat, cold, rain, sleet and snow, outside in the field, it’s always about color with us, that’s being black or white.

[@123reletive123]

I swear Willie Lynch was a genius, 400 years later and the effects are still as evident as ever today, smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@iriereggaevibes1553]

123reletive123 an still goin another 400yrs...wake up

[@torinowens6103]

Way ahead of his time. SMH 1love

[@curtisgrissom6579]

He was a racist manipulator a psychological savage.

[@slimcutz2081]

Word is that [document] was recovered and "discovered" in 1970's Watergate... The language used is the key to finding out that there was no such person as Willie Lynch. He's more of a character of what White racist slave owners use to keep slaves fighting. 👀👺😈👊💪👊👿

[@truthbetold3889]

Willie lynch never existed

[@jenj1221]

I could feel the pain in that room. It made it really sad/hard to watch. The worst part is that it is still happening to this day. There is beauty in every color❤️

[@amarettocherry80]

This still resonates today.....Idk how I missed this episode , I use to watch Phil Donahue as a kid . This was an excellent episode

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

black women use to love LIGHT skin black men.. yall hate that topic tho

[@iiz6966]

I can't speak for "every" black male but for myself Phil's opening line holds true!

[@riversdarrell2000]

I've never had a preference light or dark,ive dated both and had good experiences with both,I just love black women

[@user-gu6vf3je1d]

Because their mothers told them to…

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

black women use to love LIGHT skin black men. and hated DARKER skin black men. yall hate that topic tho

[@destressfrlyf843]

Donahue had some gr8 interviews that are incredibly relevant today

[@raczgreen6053]

1966-1996 The Donahue show was ahead of its time...

[@raczgreen6053]

@Ronald Macafee oh how could I forget those episodes...👍Ditto!

[@301cameosis]

He's the best that ever did it .

[@bholaoates1542]

@Ronald Macafee Muhammad Ali too.

[@bobjacobson858]

A couple thoughts: 1) I'm an older white guy, and whether I would feel "uncomfortable" walking through an alley with a couple Black men approaching me would not depend on their skin shade, but rather how they behave along with their dress and styling--that is, whether they look like gang members. If they are wearing suits and ties, I would have absolutely no fear of them even if their skin tone was literally black. 2) I had noticed that most Indian actresses are very light-skinned, with many looking like Europeans. Afterwards, I learned that in India, skin color makes a difference in social standing, to the disadvantage of dark-skinned Indians.

[@Kaisforeignadventures]

Would you be afraid if the people in the alley were white looking like gang members with tattoos?

[@eugeniasyro5774]

Dark skinned Indian actors always play the villains and background dancers. In that culture, light skin is venerated.

[@kudjoeadkins-battle2502]

😂

[@merrytunes8697]

That is an issue here in america sir. Black woman roles are systematically given to biracial actresses. See Zendaya, Amanda Stenberg, etc are cast in roles with two black parents…

[@bobjacobson858]

@@merrytunes8697 I believe you're correct.

[@Dentsun4228]

This show should be mandatory viewing for all from middle school to college.

[@user-gu6vf3je1d]

This is the utmost ignorance. Anyone who would teach this to their children is trash.

[@TL-yc1nl]

I looooved Donahue even as a child. Good to see these old clips. That pain breeds insecurity. Any situation that makes you feel less than will make you feel insecure. Whether its a painful experience as a child or a relationship that makes you feel inadequate...it will cause insecurity. Recognize that and deal with it because it will produce these beliefs. A secure woman/ man is so confident, you will attract people who have no choice but to respect you because your demeanor calls for nothing less. That light skin sister or Caucasian sister will not phase you in the least...weave or no weave, dark nor light. Love yourself. Raise your children in an environment where they are celebrated as well

[@veraallen1827]

It's crazy that colorism still goes on in 2021... Smh I believe that beauty 🌹 is in everyone of us no matter what shade or hue you are.

[@princessd3966]

Donahue is the GOAT. The topics he covered was A1

[@elizabeththompson9896]

If we all could just get past color and look at the heart.

[@aiahzohar5636]

If... I don't think it'll ever happen so long as there's more than one "color."

[@edwardglass1173]

Yes.

[@TheMraswad]

After 60 years I just found out why my mother's family doesn't talk to me. Not because I happen to be Homosexual, but because I have DARK skin. There is no such thing as unconditional love among Black People. There are always conditions.

[@Supremmo]

I didn’t see this episode! Thanks for uploading!

[@uprightdoublebass]

Now your life is complete.....

[@goodjuju320]

I'm attracted to facial features, not skin color.

[@joekerr570]

I feel the same & good spirits. 😁✌

[@jojosaylor8996]

Facial features complex is still racist and prejudice

[@Pink_pr1ncess]

Facial features are a part of featurism, the more European a black person looks the more praise they get regardless of skin tone.

[@TINKERB121]

@@Pink_pr1ncess Isn’t it racist to assume an attractive black person must have “European facial features”? The irony.

[@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736]

@@Pink_pr1ncess but how do you know she prefers European features??? She could like big lips and noses you are just assuming !

[@Suzanne_Vega]

I miss this man, he provided an open forum to discuss all manner of topics. Phil Donohue was ahead of his time💥

[@conniedaniels6362]

Sometimes i look at black people and want to cry for such .beauty.

[@karajones4638]

They have been conditioned bcuz of slavery

[@fourhorsemenmechanix757]

@Sanuk Jang Lery India is due to the caste system Not sure about Thailand. Maybe due to colonialism?

[@sunshinelong4112]

Yes it has so true 😔

[@Maggiebenjee]

Why blame white supremacy for colorism?? White supremacy also treasures family, legacy building, infrastructure, and showcasing ones image as superior. How is it black men only seem to be brainwashed with the light skinned women thing but NOTHING else that white supremacy does?? And wouldn't black women uphold white men just as much? Its the exact same slavery. Colorism predates racism. And colorism started in Africa CENTURIES before europeans were anywhere near Africa. This is such bullshit.

[@Pink_pr1ncess]

CareFree Sister Actually colorism happened when the slave masters started mixing with the slaves. When the child was light enough they could pass as white and eat at the table with the white people. Light skin children were seen as the acceptable version of a black person. While the dark skin slaves were still being called every name in the book and being tortured/mistreated.

[@user-gu6vf3je1d]

Wrong

[@thefreequency]

Phil: "The tragedy is that there's no way to win" The tragedy (and embarrassment) is that a white man is facilitating that conversation 😞

[@Supremmo]

Some of what’s discussed is like the precursor to The Black Manosphere.

[@MisterGoodDad]

Amazing isn't it

[@KtotheG]

Cultural feedback loop

[@staypositive4me2]

Interesting words: "The Black Manosphere." What does that mean? What are YOU conveying? Is it something that's constructive for ALL black men or just, men in general? I ask these questions because 1) I am B1 and 2) I'm still learning. Thank you.

[@Supremmo]

@@staypositive4me2 Black Manosphere is just black male space that exists mostly on KZbin. They are also a loose affiliation of KZbin Channels that discuss issues pertaining to Black Males and critiques about Black Women. Oshay Duke Jackson and Obsidian Ali are the main faces behind it. Feel free to Google them and check out their videos.

[@rosalindhampton24]

OMG...We as a people are confused enough

[@a.t.oliver1886]

Been confused for a long time but color makes it this way, just saying.✌️

[@Vonnie24]

Africa was colonized too. I missed the point. Warring tribes were not prejudice, they fought for power and land. White men saw an opportunity to exploit chaos. Then the narrative was changed to release whites from accountability. I will not call the African gentleman a pet, however. He hopefully reflects his position on the topic Personal opinion, Donahue solidified the confusion presented by the white power structure. The brother that brought up the point about blacks in the workplace being separated, told it at 100%. Donahue minimize his point by stating how blacks react, negating the blacks reaction is due to white power structure. It's 2023, still happens

[@brickhouse5067]

Who else came across this interesting episode of this throw back show in 2021?

[@SoUtHMeMpHis]

2022 also

[@Cablecol]

September 2022

[@chariwater1]

Our family goes from light light to dark. Our family is beautiful.

[@cynthiadavis9917]

This happens to me a lot, I get ignored/or rushed when other races are in line behind me. Even though I watched them let “others” take their time. It’s infuriating, some times I let them know before hand that, “I need to take my time the same as you allowed the person before me”, they are shocked being called out

[@InkedUpBarbiee]

Oh they didn't expect you to have a voice

[@mr_knowitall]

I notice that too.

[@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox]

black women use to love LIGHT skin black men.. yall hate that topic tho

[@bignight8602]

I miss this show Donahue he was ahead of his time he tackled alot of taboo subjects 👍

[@kayserasera6460]

I don’t care what no one says, Phil Donahue set the stage for the talk show era predating Oprah.

[@escah9150]

Amazing and sad how this stuff is still relevant today. Phil Donahue was ahead of his time with the topics on his shows.

[@aliveandconnected]

As light as I am, a guy stopped being attracted to me when I went natural. That's ok. He married his fetish and I know she could never be me. She blew up. And that's what he gets LOL

[@propensity4poise]

😩🤣😩🤣

[@ladyofspa]

It's all good till it's your turn.

[@jaymillymills]

I feel ya

[@Cablecol]

💯👍

[@themostbeautifulisraw4561]

Lmaoooo 😂😂😂