Donner BackBeat First Impressions

[@BobSchoepenjr]

Hi hat snare and kick sound surprisingly good 😮

[@FranksDrumCave]

Nice to see that Donner is improving

[@DavidOakesMusic]

I'd rather buy a £500 e kit than the DWe for like £7000

[@FranksDrumCave]

@@DavidOakesMusic same here

[@blenderlazz]

Thanks!

[@65Drums]

Hey thank you so much! :)

[@itstricky_96]

Got mine for £800 is awesome multi track audio recording through a usb c cable what a time to be alive

[@eDrumsandVSTs]

Great to see these non-huge companies improving their game and giving people a cheaper alternative.

[@360.Tapestry]

i'm not in the market, but this still looks fun and i like that all the learning can take place right in one place for a beginner - price tag is a bit steep, being that i see this more aimed at beginners

[@laptoples]

The only AWESOME thing about this drum set is that it hopefully pushs other companies to make touch screens !!!! (like Justin said, I'm sure there's people who would like this light up set...lol...honestly, If I was a kid, I'd love it... But) We want easier touch screens that are easy to navigate, so we're not spending all day figuring out, AGAIN, how to get good drum tones just right. If I don't keep up on the insides of my Roland modules, I forget how to do things after a few months. Grrrr...lol This holds true with guitar or bass pedals and keyboards too !!! I can't wait until everything is easier touch screens !!!! Thanks for another video Justin !!!!! Ps. Of course my audience is hopefully anyone from the industry who cares and takes notes of users wants and needs. 👍😀👍

[@charleshogue7302]

There are other companies that do make touchscreen

[@crazyclownstudioaudio3122]

Great Video !

[@ottohesslein3230]

Love the Rudiments feature. That'd be great for a kid learning his rudes.

[@djashjones]

Looks like a great kiddie beginner drum set.

[@kaiiraofficial]

I still want to develop my own cymbals because I find them very bad even in this price range. I currently have a DIY LED-low volume cymbal prototype laying around and it feels exactly like a real crash/ride/Hihat and the LED's are controlled through LedFX. The overal materials I've created it with is less than 250 euro's. This is what bothers me every time I see a new E-Drumkit coming out. It's just so expensive yet I barely see any innovation happening over the past years. The project is currently paused because the time working on it prevents me from creating music to use it in the first place, but I am planning on developing it further in about 5 years if no other brand is getting close to the product I so desire. Hopefully 65 Drums sees this, I've got some shorts of the process on my channel to showcase the idea's I have. I wish you all a wonderful day! 🤗🤗

[@nerychristian]

Don't forget to get a patent for your invention. Then show it to Yamaha or Roland

[@kaiiraofficial]

​@@nerychristian I'm not really good in sales pitching and at being a entrepreneur though. I created this for my own personal use to "Hide behind the drumkit while playing solo live". If I had to sell it to others I would probably get a burnout 😅 so basically if someone steals it, I think the person getting away with it will acually do me a favor! If I ask patent, I will literally bleed money (more each year) that of which I cannot afford at this moment. So again, if no one made it in 5 years I will attempt to create a new one when I'm (hopefully) out of my school debt 💀.

[@laptoples]

Dude, I'd love to check out what you're doing !!! My grandfather was an inventor, and he was quite the amazing person !!!!! But yeah, I'd at least document your work, because someone will snake your work in a heartbeat and watch you crawl on your belly from their yacht as they live off your idea. Just sayin...

[@nerychristian]

@@kaiiraofficial I don't think it costs much to get a patent. You don't even have to market it or sale it. Just sit on it, and if anyone makes something like it, you can sue them for using your patent.

[@djashjones]

Metal cymbals on a edrum kit will never fully feel like the real thing. It's marketing BS.

[@johndef5075]

I think id buy a used td17kvx over that. Ive seen them below that price.

[@65Drums]

100% agree

[@demonicsweaters]

I think this is a super unique kit. I love the fact that it can display sheet music and it seems very focused on education. Do you know if it can display imported MusicXML files or play them? That would be very cool.

[@65Drums]

That's something I would love to know the answer to. When I made this video, there was no PDF Manual online so I can't check. If I had to guess, I think it won't let you. But that's just a software thing they could change

[@silverchin43]

Well I can’t seem to find them in stock and donner will not reply to my email about availability?

[@aelius93]

I love what u said about alesis. My first drum machine was alesis so I have 800 songs with alesis drums. I bought a Roland but I accidentally bought the wrong one so I desperately needed an upgrade. I got a td02kv instead of a 27 or something. Anyway so I bought an alesis command. I was MORTIFIED. NOT ONE SINGLE KIT I COULD USE. NOT ONE. THE SOUNDS ARE SO BAD I JUST... I STILL CANT BELIEVE IT. So I use ezdrummer3. The stataprime seems to be a HUGE improvement with sound but none of the videos really shows us all the sounds. 3500 is a lot to spend and I just bought 2 kits. I shoulda gone Yamaha. I'm very particular with my sounds and they aren't what others seem to like. But with superior drummer 4 coming, I think I'm prolly better off just sticking with that and what I've got.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Considering the tearing and lag whilst rendering the animation and responding to user input, I'd say that this doesn't have much going processing wise.

[@65Drums]

It's probably a modified cheap android tablet

[@CafercanSengonul]

Hello Justin, Can I use these LED pads with my Roland Spd-sx (I'm using it as module with trigger inputs)? I mean if I can connect it to spd trigger input does it triggers the LED function too?

[@sabadrum]

Wondering hard if you can do a Goedrum open closed hat on a stand with this

[@ianmclean5541]

What really bugs me is that a cheap no-name brand like Donner can come out with some great innovations and a module with a nice big screen but for some reason, Roland and Yamaha have these tiny ass little screens I can barely see from the drum throne.

[@TheWhateverMan420]

Donnor is actually pretty good.

[@PaulQuince]

A brand is only “cheap” until it becomes big. All brands are “no-name” brands until they grow. Dinner might be on par with Yamaha in a few years for all we know.

[@dmgsoultogetherness6667]

and there will be an upgrade kit next year

[@anthonirodriguez6735]

Alesis strata prime/ strata core

[@tronque]

Hey, thanks for all your informative reviews. Are you testing the MPS-10 soon?

[@HardRockinJohnny]

The one thing I haven't heard anybody mention. Is this kit expandable? Are there extra cables connected to this for an extra cymbal or drum?

[@memonomoto7419]

Right now this is being offered in our country at about $1,100. Would this be considered a good set at that price?

[@HardRockinJohnny]

You can also get this kit for $1,000 bucks now. Price came way down.

[@fearbabyriffs]

Nice job they did at that price point.

[@aelius93]

Have u mentioned what you think the best Edrum kit is? I would say SOUND is most important, assuming only drums with a certain standard of quality make the list. Like they all have the right sensitivity and threshold and all that So they work Mesh. I don't know if dual toms are important. Perhaps if ur using ezdrummer3 or something you could assign say a different hit .. there's different samples of drums. So you could do that for a more nuanced performance but I'm not sure if it's that necessary It might be cool to put a clap on or something idk. I like organic sounding drums so ...

[@65Drums]

At this level it's personal preference. The strata is sounds from BFD (plus new sounds) and the Mimic is sounds from Steven Slate Drums 5. I like the Strata sounds a tad more, because of the way they are mixed. But the mimic is really really good.

[@Kevin-kr5ok]

Are there extra ports for more cymbals

[@daryllarsen8858]

I just got this kit. Loving it so far. There are ports for one more tom and one more cymbal.

[@joshwebster1100]

Would you Consider Reviewing The Donner DED-400..?

[@korndud]

the LED idea is actually pretty cool. im surprised other companies aren't doing it.

[@dictabeat]

got a video of what you would recommend at 1400 euro price tag?

[@dmleibo]

Did it really say “rundiments” in the rudiments menu?

[@DrummerGrrrl]

I saw it, too! 😂😅

[@reubenk7331]

I was under the impression Donner still had a lot of reliability issues. The song game thing is actually pretty cool though. "and it will look cool in a photo on Instagram" ha ha well said.

[@marcogomez9133]

1400 how You Buy? What can be your Best option Alesis?

[@EngiTrek]

I have a DED 500, and I don't think I would purchase this over what I have now... at double the cost.

[@whitneydeng9639]

The velocity sensitivity is at different levels and it comes with a Touch Screen! But of course, these are different price points. It just depends on what you need.

[@wilmwittenhorst6665]

so i get more fps with this rgb, right?^^

[@joethelefty]

the lack of expansion options, the 2 zone ride...thats like a 400 dollar set bud

[@keithwoodcrest]

Another downside to having the cables plug into the rack, rather than then just being able to be hidden inside the tubing like with Rolands higher end racks, is not being able to upgrade to a better, bigger rack down the line

[@akimbo.1887]

Donner made something that doesn't immediately scream "DOGSHIT"? Looks like they've come a long way since astroturfing on Reddit for sales.

[@DavidOakesMusic]

Have you ever tried the TOURTECH TT22M ? Its amazing for £400

[@progression_decibel]

I probably played on that kit an hour or so before you made your way over to their booth LOL. Needless to say, I was not impressed and I concur with your assessment that there's way better for the price.

[@blacksaturn_]

1400$ for no physical hi-hat stand and terrible sounds? LEDs are cool but what were they thinking?

[@GPO_Studios]

Whether its in a car or a drumset, I will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into using a touchscreen interface. So much more likely to become e-waste than modules with good old fashioned switches and potentiometers.

[@fonghiulo362]

Personal habits cannot obstruct the tide of the times😅

[@sergioandresrodriguezcor-nf6mk]

Good drum kit but not for 1400 bucks, 900 it’s a better price according to its features

[@nadionmediagroup]

Left handed drummers can’t use the kit at all. Unless you can take the thing apart and rethread the cables.

[@djashjones]

That's because us lefties are still treated like leper's

[@65Drums]

That's a good point

[@eyesolatedrock]

Unless they limit how much you can turn the legs you should be able to set it up backwards/lefthanded

[@nadionmediagroup]

@@eyesolatedrock I think so too. I have had problems before, but I could always get the cables where I need them. Sometimes I have to buy extenders,

[@AngelRodriguez-lp6zh]

You always have to find something wrong with things don’t you.

[@HardRockinJohnny]

Other than the visuals on this, the Simmons Titan 70 is less money and much better than this, especially with what it includes.

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

Ecymbals suck, but those suck more so.

[@aelius93]

I realize you don't love it but u should have showed us some kits Ultimately we all wanna hear the sounds. That's why we watch. To review a product and not show us the sounds is pretty much a waste of time

[@johnmiller4553]

YOU LOST ME ON THE OLD 2 ZONE ONLY RIDE CYMBAL…. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. WHY ?? WHY WOULD ANY NEW ELECTRONIC DRUM KIT ONLY COME WITH A VERY OUTDATED / ANCIENT 2 ZONE RIDE…. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. MUST BE A JOKE.. ESPECIALLY AT THAT PRICE 🙄🙄

[@65Drums]

It’s a problem for sure at this price

[@johnmiller4553]

@@65Drums YES SIR. THANK YOU JUSTIN 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@drummermike5150]

Stopped watching after mentioning the 2 zone ride...............WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@fl00d69]

I knew it the first 10 seconds. No.

[@fallenshallrise]

Imagine if a manufacturer actually came to you and asked "we are making a drum set, what should we include?" That would be such a fun conversation and even with a given budget I don't think it would look anything like what is out there. Starting at the module I don't want or need built in lessons or songs or effects, just give me a reverb knob I can assign to the headphone out for monitoring and output all the pads on separate channels over USB. EQ and compression and everything else can happen in the DAW if the internal sounds are used. And on the configuration of these kits most players given the choice play a kit with more drums than cymbals. I think for a 5 piece kit 2 crashes, a splash, a hi hat and a ride are the minimum. And for learning the ergonomics of a drum set no brand should make a hi hat or snare smaller than 13", that should be the minimum on any kit and shouldn't cost that much extra plastic.

[@mikeydreadmastalski4345]

Another toy looking kit ,they need to get away from those types of pads and just do acoustic look, not many people want that look these days.