Why the Racing Line Doesn’t Win Races

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Winning an F1 Championship requires more than clocking the fastest laps; It requires ”race craft,” which includes knowing when the racing line isn’t the key to victory. Today we're going to explain why the racing line isn't necessarily the best way to win a race.
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[@lalaeez2063]

I prefer Forza racing lines where you go for the line that rams your opponent with utmost efficiency.

[@SOLPIU]

And nfs shift too 😂

[@318super98]

Its all about stealling their momentum as they take yours off the road 🤣🤣🤣

[@ProtoAzula]

Thats where the unimog comes in

[@ProtoAzula]

Also, 8 tires are better at braking than 4

[@bwabbel]

@@ProtoAzula exactly what i'm saying 😂

[@Driver61]

Come and do some racing guys!

[@Karan-nj2dk]

Great Scott! Didn't expect to find you here. I would like to hear your take on racecraft curbing ideal racing line (no pun intended), or sacrificing other conventional wisdoms about racing to gain track position. Your video on Verstappen's pace in wet touched upon this subject and it was eye-opening for a novice like me.

[@Skimmary]

Favourite youtubers 🤙

[@therrydicule]

They might do a LeMons race or something...

[@gerardleary1885]

Driver61 and Uncle Jerry? Does it get better?

[@stg607animations]

D R I V E R 6 1

[@floijd]

Hammond: "On Paper, this is the faster car." Clarkson: "Yes, but on TARMAC it isn't."

[@GogiTavadze]

What car it was about?

[@233kosta]

The paper was clearly wrong then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Weird_Cat_Thingy]

@@yvngpanda3036 I can't remember if that's the Focus or Fiesta in America

[@velvet_turtle7918]

@@Weird_Cat_Thingy it's the fusion

[@KiraPlaysGuitar]

@@velvet_turtle7918 :(

[@sandalphoncpu]

“Why Racing Line Doesn’t Win Races” Me an intellectual: *cuts corners*

[@JordanSVT]

Race: Has no check points Me: Cuts a straight line to the finish line

[@THE_EXPERIMENTER]

How did you make it say 210 years ago?

[@Starfighter-nk4mo]

@@THE_EXPERIMENTER That’s just his username

[@Weird_Cat_Thingy]

Jimmy Broadbent: *punts them into the wall*

[@stanleygarland1666]

and gets disqualified

[@rizqirizaldo]

Jerry: slower, but fast? McQueen: turn left to turn right? This questions are the progenitor of legendary moments

[@williammilliron8735]

"Turn RIGHT to go LEFT" but yeah I was thinking the same thing lol

[@Dailyquotesandinspiration4u]

Racing flat track motos in the Hooligan class for the first time… it just messed me up.

[@californiapoontappa]

@@Dailyquotesandinspiration4u but all motos turn on gyroscope you are always counter steering

[@stg607animations]

Or ya know nuke the racers to win by default

[@bog4240]

@@stg607animations not funny didn't laugh

[@Jordiw00t]

Max Verstappens Brazil race in the wet is one of the perfect examples of adapting to the track conditions and choosing a different racing line.

[@allensinho4]

Didn’t he say it was just because he could see better?

[@ashham9183]

That drive from him is so fucking good

[@alalal123421]

lewis 2008 silverstone was also crazy

[@billymays4110]

Hamilton’s pole lap in Styria 2020

[@degebeundebende993]

@@allensinho4 Both, rubber gets slippery when it's wet, so he didn't drive on the rubbered in part. And definitely, not as much spray and more downforce if you drive outside the traditional racing line. Not to forget, wet and dry lines are very common practice in racing, but since wet lines come across the dry (rubbered) line, there are tricky little slippery spots which make them hard to master. Both lewis and max are known to be good drivers in the wet, and a well known F1 champion once said that wet driving separates the good from the great. I don't know how informed you are and maybe I'm preaching to the choir here 🤷🏼‍♂️.

[@lexilex72]

"Winning isn't about following the racing line" *laughs in drag racing*

[@shadowguy530]

@dobelheintz same

[@BeyondSorrowYYY]

Hereby i declare war!

[@0xsergy]

if theres no turns its just a highway. 1v1 rust

[@alchemist6819]

@dobelheintz same

[@TinoushGTR]

Anyone can drive on a straight line in an automatic.

[@felip0251]

"On a F1 track, most corners aren't simple arcs." Sochi: Hold my beer

[@gamespot6002]

ok

[@Staplove]

Keyword: most

[@ΓιώργοςΤσακίρογλου-ι2η]

*Hold my vodka

[@DaFifaKid]

congrats, now you realize what the word "most" means.

[@Hick25]

they’re moving the russian gp track to a different one, hopefully be less boring of a race

[@ronpinto9588]

When Senna first started racing in Europe, for an F3 team, a driver for the same team asked him how come, when it was raining, he drove in a different line than everyone else and still lapped at least one second faster than the rest. Senna explained to him that when the track was wet the usual racing line was covered in oil and rubber, making it much more slippery, which was why he would follow the line less used and was able to enjoy better grip than all others. I heard that the day after Senna died, in a Mexican TV show called "Caliente" where the host was interviewing people who, at one time or another" had had contact with Senna, and the explanation was given by a Mexican driver that drove for the first team Senna ever drove for in Europe.

[@nicholascrow8133]

wet line vs dry line

[@shaamilthattayil]

"...and I took the path less travelled by" Now where have I heard that before...🤔

[@d35p0]

Max really learnt from this

[@Someone25948]

This is common knowledge since the day people have been racing in the rain, Senna didn't discover this or anything

[@Leon-ub8pe]

@@Someone25948 Senna hater lmao he never said Senna created did

[@utr4_962]

"Hamilton saves his tires" Hamilton: Bono, my tyres are gone.

[@muhammadnaufal6317]

Perez: yes..

[@swapnilmankame]

Hamilton usually lies about tires to throw opponents off, all opponents are constantly listening on each other's radio thus have to speak in code. there was some mention about it in the behind the scenes video of red bull's HQ. (example he went radio silent when his tires were completely shredded and punctured in the last lap, yet he won with 3 wheels, google British Grand Prix 2020 Hamilton last lap)

[@HandlesSuck123]

And then when Lewis' tyre are actually gone, like in Silverstone, Lewis doesn't complain...

[@swapnilmankame]

@@dgogara New DTS fans don't seem to know it. its a rampant issue on Facebook

[@eliasdawi2846]

@@HandlesSuck123 what are you talking about, all 4 tire were definitely completely fine :p

[@rmn3d]

Lewis Nolanton's gonna haunt me in my dreams for a few months

[@drmaulana2600]

Also Jeremiah Webber

[@Grayson_Baker]

The Vettel merger scares me the most!

[@randalllawkin]

Yeah that mug was ugly with that combo lol...not saying he is but you know, those.breads.

[@TGears314]

Time stamp?

[@JackFogos]

James PumpVettel is gonna give me nightmares too

[@CYMotorsport]

6:40 good point: immediately thought of the bump at high Mirabeau in Monte Carlo where’s its best to slide right to keep grip despite it being overtly off the racing line albeit momentarily

[@stare4539]

Fr

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Day 7 of asking for an Up to Speed on how Donut Media came to be

[@locowaldo1542]

Day one of supporting this

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Also can I humbly request some more muscle car love on Donut please? Or how about more B2B on "normal" cars (like non F1, like actual proper road cars)

[@bobbydavy88]

Support initiated...

[@Super_Black1]

this is a must

[@aziackerman8985]

this one right here chief

[@JohnRidesMx]

Hamilton passing Mazespin? Yeah sure like I dont know my Drivers

[@gepbalta]

He's passing Mazespin about 3 times/race. It's not that easy cause no one expecting him to defend his position while he's blue flagged, yet he does. :D

[@ev17dan]

Did you forget Baku?

[@stg607animations]

Mazespin be like: s🅱️innala

[@imnotwhitebutimwhite]

@@gepbalta Lewis can only pass lord Mazepin with blue flags

[@th1nk_outside]

BLUE FLAGS. THIS GUY MAKES US LOSE THE POSITION!!!!!

[@JamaaLS]

After yesterday's crash this is very revealing.

[@a-peekgaming3544]

Lol yes

[@JoelRipke]

"[Lewis Hamilton] is a 7-time world champion because of his race craft" I think you triggered all "it's the car" people

[@KG_Grandpa]

Russel showed that last season, but its not all car.

[@milktar2182]

Calling it a race craft makes it sound like his car is a floating hover car (more commonly called a ship) that you would see in WipE'out"

[@CS-yc6qp]

He’s a mathematical genius

[@vichs8457]

75% car

[@neovenom9833]

Imagine if his car was actually controlled from the pits. it would be the scandal of the century.😂

[@sonydominates]

Dear editor, Breaking = something destroyed Braking = slowing something down

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

For some drivers, the line is blurry.

[@DexteruL]

@@TheOtherNeutrino Some drivers do break their tires when braking ... it's called a lockup...

[@guccihorsepiss2406]

@@TheOtherNeutrino couch couch grosjean cough cough

[@zeyzerx3722]

@@guccihorsepiss2406 OmmHGg GuySs GroSsJJEaaNN cRassHHH GettTT ITttTT? IM sO FunNy SiNnCe 2012

[@StudioVRM]

@@TheOtherNeutrino For drivers like me, it's often both.

[@nancyzasimova2044]

I’m an artist and and an ex-racer and the perfect racing line concept is similar to when you draw stylised humans/animals. You need to be very familiar with the anatomy before you can stylise convincingly. Same with racing. You still need to know the perfect racing line of by heart to be able to adjust yours intuitively according to external conditions. This is exactly why coaches are always teaching newbies about the racing line in detail at first.

[@RustOnWheels]

To become a master in arts one must master theory (and basics) first in order to deviate from (/ rise above) it as an artist.

[@709mash]

Reminds me of Stanley Kubrick's saying: "Get the facts right, then distort at your pleasure."

[@_..-.._..-.._]

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[@inno-v8-ion165]

@@709mash I thought Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that? Either way, the statement is SO damn true

[@versth]

Ii​@@RustOnWheels

[@AJKing8]

"Intertia over grip" but as Martin Brundle says it, "Ambition over Adhesion"

[@zmalik8593]

He's got such a way with words

[@dtremblay17]

Haha i love him!!

[@mrbeans2425]

I LOVE that saying!

[@nickgehr6916]

Therapist: Lewis Nolanton isn't real Donut: Say sykes right now

[@heronumbertwo3171]

r/youngpeopleyoutube

[@OofThatsNice]

Under Appreciated comment right here

[@stg607animations]

r/young people KZbin @Hero Number Two

[@GanjaNinja]

@@heronumbertwo3171 Get out redditor!

[@heronumbertwo3171]

@@GanjaNinja well if you think about it the thread used against me have indirectly made the comment popular

[@luijazzpiano]

"Hamilton is a seven times world champion because of his racecraft...." The entire Engineering team "am I a joke for you? "

[@Joran40]

@Kasper Hansen *literally the last driver to win the title without his team winning the constructors title*...

[@crishealingvtuber8626]

@Kasper Hansen the engine is way worse and he is still arriving 4th? Please. You don't break records being an average driver with the best car.

[@troll_486]

*literally that was 13 years ago*

[@Orphen_]

@@Joran40 Hamilton is a world champion because he is an amazing driver. He is a 7 times world champion because he got into the fastest car. However he got that seat because he is an amazing driver so... Yeah alot of it is on his own merit combined with some good timing on coming through and proving himself as a great driver. So for me there is no doubt that Hamilton is a great driver and one of the best on the grid over the past 13 years... However his team and the car he had surely contributed alot to him having all the successes that he had.

[@Joran40]

@@troll_486 shows that it is a really hard feat to do

[@colevano]

Can Donut please finally teach the animator that it is spelled “braking point” and “brakes” not “breaking point” or “breaks.”

[@GBduds]

Shows a graph and says braking point

[@TGears314]

I said the same thing. 8:20 really bothered me. How many videos have had that error now?

[@JoelRipke]

Well, it's Mazepin...

[@j.seagle6867]

@@JoelRipke you have a good point there 🤣

[@something7992]

Breaking point f1 2021 lol

[@MexicanBagpiper96]

"Nolan Hamilton isn't real, he can't hurt you."

[@Shimeih]

He just hurt me😭😭😭 Judging from your advice I’m sensing that you’re the type pf kid my mom told me to stay away from 😂😂😂

[@SprintHillclimb]

this is quite funny after today

[@joseriveracondori5367]

This been recomended to me TODAY 😳

[@krankieboolean1340]

Hamilton won and drove faster and was able to pass cars that Bottas was unable to do.

[@brandonpratt5701]

“When in doubt, flat out.” -Colin McRae

[@stefanocanzian9172]

Worst advice ever

[@R4M_Tommy]

That's why he ALWAYS crashed

[@cobbomusic]

doesnt quite work in road racing

[@akashsarma8241]

Please don’t I am in my 3 rd bumper already

[@pauloaz496]

Literally Kevin Magnussen

[@homeless_kiddd7207]

Those photoshopped pictures makes Nolan look like he used a 65$ roll bar

[@Alamander81]

He looks like Jared Leto in Panic Room

[@draganbalzic4493]

8:56 It’s very difficult to imagine a date in this lifetime in which Mazespinner would be defending against Hamilton.

[@watersnortmoment3734]

Definitely not now

[@mamavswild]

He didn’t want to use any of the other drivers who could be in that position’s name though, because then the driver’s fans would come down hard on him. I totally would have if he had used MY favorite driver’s name and made it seem like Ham could easily catch him.

[@709mash]

Well he won't have that chance anymore 😉

[@devlinkeenoy8716]

maybe he doesn't want to get lapped

[@UNiTEDDKSilent21]

@@mamavswild This kinda just shows how you're an internet degenerate, getting mad at someone for saying something on the internet, how insane.

[@s.willis8426]

I remember Michael Shumacher back in the day on a rainy GP, the rain broke with about 20 laps to go and many teams pulled into the pits to switch back to the dry tires but he stayed out and swerved to hit a few puddles on each lap to keep the rain tires cool enough to not degrade on the warming tarmac and finished on the rain tires (in first place). They were playing checkers, he was playing chess.

[@Aj00047]

He has most experience racing on worn down tires aswell….

[@ordenax]

To think that, in such little time is genius.

[@umar02121]

That why king mazepin doesn’t follow lines he know he’s a champ

[@harshitaseeja3290]

We mistook him for a bad driver, we should all apologize

[@BigBadGato]

Mazepin races for the worst team in F1 and has never been on podium. Lol "Champ"

[@cesardepena7498]

@@BigBadGato I don't think you know what a joke is, do you?

[@guccihorsepiss2406]

@@cesardepena7498 I don't think that, I'm sure of that

[@cesardepena7498]

@@guccihorsepiss2406 incase you did not know it is a joke

[@nolanpeters5462]

2:30 is also a great example of how orbital velocity works. The ISS is literally balancing on the line of too much speed and not enough grip, or vice versa. Except grip is gravity.

[@ntl9974]

Just two balanced forces

[@nolanpeters5462]

@@ntl9974 perfectly balanced as all things should be. Hi r/unexpectedthanos

[@silience4095]

@@ntl9974 Two balanced forces? There's only 1 force acting on the ISS.

[@silience4095]

Eh, I wouldn't say it's that much of a balance. Going a little slow will result in your altitude dropping, which will increase your speed, making you go back up again. It's how elliptical orbits go. For the ISS to stay in orbit, they actually have a HUGE velocity range. Anywhere from escape velocity at their altitude, to deorbit velocity at their altitude. Of course they want to be in a specific orbit, but they still have some wiggle room. The ISS actually boosts itself periodically, to keep the orbit in check, because it still experiences some aerodynamic drag.

[@nolanpeters5462]

@@silience4095 the elliptical is balance

[@RonanNotRyan]

Mahaveer Raghunathan: *_"Y'know, I'm something of a Formula 1 driver myself..."_*

[@kazefw3834]

The goat 🤣🤣

[@ev17dan]

Our lord!

[@shinra6856]

lord mahaveer does not need racing lines, the other drivers simply get out of the way when he's near

[@joshuaw_270]

Throw all this out of the window when your on Gran Turismo and someone just decides to yeet you to the shadow realm.

[@johnmay6432]

Shadow realm…I see you’re a man of culture. Super culture 👍

[@Vinecars]

@@johnmay6432 Hello fellow viewer, he indeed is a man of culture.

[@One21P]

Early braking. Late turns. Those rammers understand racing line to best hit you at maximum speed. Winning line always beats the racing line.

[@MrPFMneto]

R4M_Shadow is out there to avenge us, brother! Don't bottle it just yet.

[@kippersgamingchannel937]

i learned about the out breaking strategy from initial d lol when takumi raced the r32

[@pmmastiffs8763]

Years ago I had an old timer tell me “slow is smooth, smooth is fast”. It wasn’t able to understand that from an analytical standpoint until I felt it on my way to my first wins. Watch Hamilton drive, slow small changes and consistently fast lap times. Really wish I could explain verbally but the feeling is amazing!

[@233kosta]

It's all about time scales. A sharp input is capable of momentarily exceeding the available grip, breaking static traction often in an unrecoverable way and sending you into a spin while taking a corner much slower than is otherwise possible. That old timer is 100% on point.

[@mattevans1643]

That goes for many things in life. Being fast isn't fast, being smooth is fast. It's better to do things right the 1st time than to do it 2-3 times the wrong way.

[@ibbeats5183]

I heard this when watching videos on how to get better at dirt rally 2.0 and instantly started doing better stages, it also carried over to playing F1. Started shaving whole seconds off my lap times that i was certain i couldnt top

[@ntl9974]

@@ibbeats5183 like zen right?

[@ibbeats5183]

@@ntl9974 youre thinking of flow state, which is where you are in a zone where you are unconscious and reacting purely on instinct while driving. Im describing the pedal inputs. The smoother youre feet can be going on/ off the throttle/brake the better. Hope i cant help mate

[@SidewaysLoveJP]

“To me the ultimate line isn’t the motive, it’s merely the result!” - Dr. Joushima Toshiya AKA GodHand just minutes before puking his guts out

[@alondjeckto]

His racing line produce to much earth forces

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

@@alondjeckto 🤣👏

[@teammusketeers]

😂😂😂u said it b4 i did @Godhand.... #godarm#initialD

[@tehangrybird345]

“All corners are different” Me: laughs in NASCAR oval

[@johnnyracioppi]

laughs at Pocono

[@superlight1999]

Nhra : laugh at quarter mile strip

[@nerd888]

me: laughs in no car🥲

[@polarpandaX]

8:14 "slow to go fast" has the same energy as doc telling McQueen Turn right to go left

[@MrOscar5690]

I’m watching this as I play Gran Turismo 7.. When I get frustrated and start mashing the throttle I always have to remind myself “if I want to go fast, I have to slow down” My fiancé heard me say this to myself and she said that makes no sense Hahaha..

[@marianorivera3272]

@@MrOscar5690 it actually makes a lot of sense. If you’re trying to do something fast, you’re constantly focusing on micro-correcting your snappy imputs. Doing something slower and steadier until the input becomes flawless instinctively is more efficient because you need to focus less on corrections of hasty inputs.

[@MrOscar5690]

@@marianorivera3272 thanks.

[@Driftuner]

You forgot the most important rule: "if you dont go for a gap that exists..."

[@aaronbustamante9282]

Takumi style

[@nclparlade_random1179]

"...you are no longer a racing driver." Senna Sempre 🇧🇷

[@nclparlade_random1179]

@@aaronbustamante9282 what

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

"......you're gay." (No offense to LGBTQ community, I love gay people [P.S. I'm not gay])

[@websterk451]

You're no longer a racing driver

[@mobile_plays2853]

Donut Media: Racing lines don't win races. Trackmania players: hold my beer

[@PaganiGaming]

Day 385 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

[@Xanderboof]

One day…

[@Xanderboof]

@TheNoobGamer honestly. he’s the only day x of that I care about haha

[@shaulstrait4313]

It seems a bit too personal a thing to talk about to millions of people

[@spaghettiman2.052]

Day 134 of supporting PaganiGaming

[@niksperience]

Stay well Mr. PaganiGaming

[@bnl522]

3:47 Now that's a meme I've not heard in a long time

[@shiratori88]

Do you remember what that cat meme was called

[@DodgeViper92]

I'm glad I didn't have to scroll that far down for someone to mention it

[@bnl522]

@@shiratori88 Dramatic chipmunk!

[@richy2563]

This is such a fantastic explanation of various complicated concepts for amateurs to understand easily. Love that you guys are covering F1!

[@sjhart14]

This was a great video. The discussion around toy models is exactly the sort of thing I learned in engineering school. Knowing when a model is a helpful tool but also recognizing its limitations and assumptions is something we grapple with all the time. You guys are getting better every week.

[@barak181]

It's spelled, "braking." You break a stick in two. You brake when you want to slow down your car.

[@madmaniacloony]

Breaking point is when you hit the breaks and they break so you take a break

[@madbruv]

Braykink

[@adnitesean5005]

Idk man, not my 1st language but i did check a translator Both spelled: "brāk" Edit: i thought everyone's talking about the pronunciation. Turns out it was the editor putting "breaking" instead of braking

[@sweetssandbox3526]

if you are in a Haas it is spelled breaking because you broke the car hitting your teammate into the wall

[@grim-ripa]

Nobody's perfect. Give the editor a brake 🤣

[@chickenlampbrent]

My experience was amateur stock car at the local circuit for a few years. It was a quarter-mile oval but it was trickier than it looked and the line you took might depend on how hot it was that day. I did a lot of door handle to door handle racing with one guy in an eagle talon against my 4th gen Prelude. I could never pull ahead of him if he kept the inside line but if I waited behind him, I knew his car would push up to the wall toward the end of the race on his hot tires. Having a nice racing line is alright when you're not in a pack and you get the line you get. You just have to be a ruthless opportunist if you want to win and take things right to the knife edge of control and hold it there for the duration. There's a mental state and you have to be decisive on frighteningly short notice and make the right decisions more than wrong ones. Even so, you can be doing everything right and it can still all go pear-shaped. Then when you're rolled over and crashing with a dislocated limb and you realize you have absolutely nothing to say about what's happening, that's interesting. Your brain seems to speed up and you can process data very quickly and this distorts time. Fascinating.

[@hayyaananwar7856]

8:00 "suppose hamilton is behind mazepin" me: why only suppose when you can see it

[@TheUSDebt]

I felt like this was a bad example since lapping a car should be pretty different than a regular overtake

[@ailurusfulgens1849]

@@TheUSDebt he wasn't taking about lapping, he was just firing shots at Mazepin because that's what Donut Media has been doing lately. They could have taken Verstappen but then couldn't have said "He stays in the racing line for once".

[@gamespot6002]

no

[@koreboredom4302]

You see three consecutive hairpins, I see a mid-air straight line.

[@aurickbiswas8233]

Imagine if this was Shingo's dialogue for the hairpin section of Akina

[@thatonecarguydirk4803]

Now THATS the Champion mindset 💯💯🤙🤙🙏🙏👊👊

[@saileille]

They say you cut the course. You'll have to slow down and give up the time gained.

[@uddinrokib7]

What a yolk! You are not allowed to cut the chicken.

[@rienezukana]

IROHAZAKA JUMP!

[@jordanbutcher3421]

You know it's an old video when Hamilton's in the thumbnail

[@the_gamer_shadow_dj4542]

Fr

[@tapsmorer7415]

Hamilton after watching the video: "so you see.. My tires are gone"

[@stillplana]

Dominic Toretto: The only thing you need is family.

[@drmaulana2600]

Fambly

[@camogap7392]

Family helps in doing a wheelie and a burnout at the same time lol

[@axel3895]

And 20 speed manual gear box

[@stillplana]

@@axel3895 😂😂😂😂

[@fajaradi1223]

@@axel3895 You're a shifty... Gearbox

[@maxcoffeee]

Funny how this recommended after Sunday race 😂

[@neilneilorangepeel]

“Breaking point” is that the same as a Braking point? Or is it where the car breaks down? 😂

[@enKrypt]

I think Hamilton found the "breaking point" at Baku.

[@elfenixnight]

we were talking about mazepin, so breaking is correct.

[@zwenkwiel816]

It's a sequel to point break

[@4cylindersoffury252]

No one mentioned Williams.

[@chaitanyarao5546]

@@enKrypt I hope you remember that this is a marathon and not a sprint

[@eliasdawi2846]

love that these vids are detailed enough for people with pre knowledge of this stuff, but still understandable for people with a simpler understanding of physics, etc. and keep up the f1 content :D

[@TheF8ofN8]

0:59 my heart stopped for a second.... he was actually calling out all the Nathaniel/Nathaneal out there 😂😂

[@chilibeer3912]

Fortunately Hamilton won’t have to worry as much about racing lines with Mazepin because of blue flags. Then again Mazepin doesn’t respect blue flags any more than he does women

[@sammy8796]

Goteeem

[@Hempujonsito]

based Mazepimp showing hoes their places

[@mangalutv2928]

He probably smashed that girl and youre out here tryna defend her honor

[@JohnWyck]

@@mangalutv2928 Exactly. The girl even defended him publicly. That's why he still has a seat.

[@jacobhanekamp2534]

Dang that was smooth

[@jammin0792]

It's good to know that all corners are beautiful to Jeremiah, not just the ones with increasing radii. Thank you Jerry, thank you for your acceptance

[@Frege-13]

This did defintely not age well after Silverstone 2021...

[@Ghost5.4]

😂😂

[@garrettsmith419]

You completely forgot to account for Mazepin spinning out around the corner

[@slowdriver6868]

Nah bro he just exploiting the secret "extreme slip angle" technique

[@justincase9033]

And the blue flag for mazepin

[@bukwok]

mazespin.

[@robingrevenstuk8673]

@@bukwok fidgetspinner*

[@aydankhaliq2967]

Tsunoda has spun as much as mazepin.

[@iasaacglendale558]

alternate title: Why the line doesn't win races and Hamilton does.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

Except the last four in a row

[@sandblockz7342]

@@MeltingRubberZ28 he forgot

[@ashleyrocke6009]

@@sandblockz7342 I think you have forgotten the past 7 Seasons, but ok...

[@SamuelSantos_]

F

[@lecrocodile5651]

Hamilton racing line™ like in Bahrain

[@axypher]

Is it me or does he really look like Tom DeLonge?

[@salarzareghalehcheh]

pls make a "up to speed: everything you need to know about Peugeot" like if you agree 👍

[@Crispy656forever]

They really forgot about them damn

[@salarzareghalehcheh]

@@Crispy656forever the irritating fact is that this channel is no more entertaining it used to be... just buying stuff from ebay and testing them and talking about car accessories is not the thing I would wait from donut media the only thing satisfying about here is actually their miata and e36 build nothing else *MAKE DONUT MEDIA GREAT AGAIN* @DONUTMEDIA

[@101jir]

"Toy model," I need to remember that term! I always wondered why in games you are given the same racing line regardless of your engine/transmission layout.

[@233kosta]

It's a polite term for a model so wrong you're best off ignoring.

[@101jir]

@@233kosta Thanks for the clarification

[@mobius7745]

In games not only the racing line is trash compared to a full blown complex geometric line, it also doesn't adapt to anything other than the breaking points being usually based on your speed, so it's worse than a geometric line and worse than a "winning line"

[@Volkain10]

@@mobius7745 still useful aslong as you acknowledge it’s not the best/only way around a track. I like to use it at tracks that don’t have a good break marker

[@cameronwebster6866]

I’ve also heard “spherical cow model” in reference to a joke where a farmer is having problems with his cows, so contacts a university for help, and after examining the problem and deliberating, the university announces they have a solution, but it only works for a spherical cow in a vacuum.

[@jaimeeoww]

All these videos are just confirming everything I learned in gran trurismo

[@TonySopeano46]

Coffee brake Daihatsu intensifies.

[@dontneedtoknow5836]

Yep. Exiting the corner at a higher speed is more valuable than cornering with the overly highest average. Which GT did you start with?

[@kylelargin9528]

Up to speed on Garrett, I would love to know how the biggest name in turbochargers came to be

[@jj02mc27]

Or Up to Speed on Bilstein, the shock masters

[@kazefw3834]

Or Up To Speed on Brembo

[@Tachyon836]

Borg Warner?

[@bruhnt5063]

Day 48 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back

[@JohnDoe-gi1zq]

What’s wrong with it

[@bruhnt5063]

@John Doe 69 there's nothing wrong with the current one, but we highly miss the old one..

[@ajinpjseph4014]

Yeah they should have named this series something else and kept the old b2b. thats my only complain about the new b2b Hope it makes sense.

[@bruhnt5063]

@@ajinpjseph4014 it's not like this B2B is bad, it's just that old B2B is just.. *too good*

[@AscendingTechie]

You forgot the part where hamilton stays on the inside and takes out the cars on the outside.

[@zucar1tas]

Or maybe like he said "staying on the racing line or defending your position doesn't matter if it ends your race". Someone should email that to Max

[@jetostake]

that "Breaking" Point distracted me.

[@Fenolmenon]

Me too... I came here to comment that I hope that's not where the cars break!!

[@thromboid]

I guess it is the point at which the car breaks from the straight racing line, but that's being charitable... :)

[@jelksautox]

It’s the constant jabs at Mazespin for me.

[@that1boi90]

I love how 3:18 what he’s talking about isn’t complex at all, and should probably be comprehendible to anyone that knows how to state a basic algebraic equation out loud, but in spite of this he does the “cover the screen in math” cliche.

[@rigel7454]

Haters be like it's the car taking that racing line not Hamilton

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

It's all AI controlled, hamilton just eats popcorn while sitting in the car, the car drives itself........ always has been.

[@speeddemon2901]

Well why not talk about why people talk about car anyways... Now that max is leading the champ he is whining about max being too fast.... He is Accusing redbulls every possible leads....

[@thebestevertherewas]

@@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure You're all sheep. It always has been the case since 2014. All drivers are just for show. Its the AI doing the racing. They just one upper Max's AI this year. Grow up sheeple

[@s_ame1135]

@@thebestevertherewas you forgot your tin foil hat.

[@aki007]

When you have the fastest car, racing line dont mean shit. - lewis Hamilton

[@ellisjackson3355]

Lmao I envisioned him saying this in an interview

[@TimurIskhodzhanov]

*Sir Lewis Hamilton

[@chmd22]

It means even less if you don't have the fastest car, because now you're in traffic.

[@jeffduncan02]

Just not in 2021

[@dontneedtoknow5836]

Technically as long as you can keep it on the track you are correct.

[@Awesummzzz]

Those photoshops of you guys on Lewis, Seb, and Max are so cursed lmao

[@keraatkins7833]

Now I understand how come the track is an oval for nascar.

[@Dragonson575]

You're rude for this one lmao.

[@Mateuszyk]

coz americans cant turn

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

@@Mateuszyk Because Nascar is about the highest speeds possible on a track*

[@Mateuszyk]

@@BigfootUnibrowMan so american!

[@phantomgaming9771]

It's because the only thing they care about is who's got the biggest engine and the most power. Also none of their cars can go round a corner without crashing soo yeah.

[@existentialselkath1264]

But why doesn't Lewis Hamilton just turn on the racing line in the difficulty settings? It would be so much easier XD

[@falkirk625]

Thanks for these F1 episodes. They're really great!

[@marksman1717]

"Hamilton 7 world champion" Schumi wakes up.

[@mindofvirtuoso3358]

Well schumi is woken from coma 😂

[@yunan9610]

He's never going to be the same unfortunately

[@edwinrolston2551]

Hamition is a 7 time world champion only because of his car he had the best car on the grid for 5 of thoses years

[@Celatra]

@@edwinrolston2551 same goes to Schumi lol

[@dionisis2487]

@@edwinrolston2551 champioships are always won with the best cars

[@christianmedina7670]

Donut makes me want to watch their ads. Not just to support them lol, they're legit great, not-annoying ads

[@web_jar6630]

It's so fun to see F1 stuff on Donut Media! The 'psychology of racing' mentioned in the beginning of the video got me thinking about this year's F1 championship and the performance that Red Bulls are showing leaving Mercedes AMG team under immense pressure. The fight between them, both on and off track is going to be intense!!

[@scarzx73]

It is intense

[@f1champ551]

And I can also see why the TV ratings see as such when it comes to F1.

[@RustOnWheels]

This aged quite well.

[@LaggerSVK]

I would say the tire is loading and slipping under braking similarly to in corner. However adding a few metres more in braking will decrease the loading in the corner. But it doesnt mean the tire is not being wear under braking.

[@pain.497]

Me that plays Forza "write that down! write that down!"

[@Mad8vCycles]

but the forza line is "smash into someone in order to slow down and get turned"

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Do you even tune?

[@pain.497]

@@MJ-uk6lu yes I do lol, I pretty much play on the hardest difficulty so I need every lil advantage I can get

[@wykydytron]

It will not work in Forza or any other game, racing line will be fastest because it's arcade game so physics are too simple for anything other then taking shortest route and cutting corners a little.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

@@wykydytron Forza is simcade and its physics are not really all that simple. Unless it's Horizon, then yeah nothing handles right.

[@AvAfanfromfrance]

I remember when Donut was a starting channel, and now I realize how much progress has been made. After all this time, there's still room for interesting subjects, with better and better production. Well done guys, there are a lot of channels that need to get up to speed

[@vinayneilpanda5639]

Silverstone 2021 wants to know your location

[@Hiddemans123]

Maybe a ‘real’ b2b in a formula 1 car?

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Omg yes

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Also they hearted the comment so they might be up to something... :)

[@thedeamonmeteor69420]

Hamilton: I wanna drive fast Papa Hamilton: **stands very close to the corner** Brake here Hamilton: but that’s impo- Papa Hamilton: I said brake here

[@chriskim5535]

Plus, racing line is different because the exit speed is more important. Hamiltons line has more higher exit speed compared to theoretical line.

[@brianbethea3069]

0:10 Can we just take a moment to appreciate how incredible this teacher's handwriting is? Absolutely gorgeous.

[@Syphrvirus2]

I'm forever haunted by the photo-shopped faces...

[@michaildamaskinos8459]

You could analyze Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher strategy and lines. It would be awesome

[@anirudhr6052]

'Imagine if ur Hamilton and ur tryin to pass mazepin' Hamilton : ' *blue flags* '. Champions usually follow a squarer racing line over a circular racing line.

[@ATX_Engineer]

You left out one of the most important factors of cornering in F1. That is getting on the power early is one of the most important factors regarding fast lap times. Drivers will sacrifice their corner speed to get on the throttle early. This is HUGE in F1. Ignoring this in the video seems like an oversight.

[@JLneonhug]

He kind of did towards the end. He mentions that minimise steering duration by having a sharp apex which in turn give throttle earlier/longer.

[@ATX_Engineer]

@@JLneonhug One passing mention of it... when it's the primary reason for late apex corning for faster lap times. Thanks for pointing that out, but it should have gotten MUCH more discussion than a subtle mention.

[@shaleenpathak6786]

@@ATX_Engineer check out Chain Bear. He has it beautifully explained in his channel. Donut only explains the surface. Kinda like Neil Degrasse Tyson explaining physics.

[@ATX_Engineer]

@@shaleenpathak6786 F1 fan to F1 fan... I don' think we need to get this stuff wrong. Donut, in all its "glory" needs a couple of us to advise them. Clearly they need knew talent. Hey DONUT, you need some new talent? WHATS UP?

[@JLneonhug]

​@@ATX_Engineer If we want to go technical, its the ability of the tyres and aerodynamics to be able to handle the cornering speeds, as such it creates this late apex method of cornering. Some argue its the aero and tyres, less of the "technique" of late apex and more of tyre understanding/management (in modern F1 anyway).

[@Pembolog]

You're conflating racing line and geometric line. The racing line is the optimal path around a track, by definition it is the only way to win a race.

[@iceniwargames6347]

This, the Racing line is by definition the fastest way around the track for your car. Different cars may have different optimal (racing) lines.

[@Tsino69]

I remember when F1 cars weren't so long and wide that fighting and defending for position was exciting. The cars were nimble and microturns didn't almost always cause oversteer or crashes in some cases.

[@er.prashant_]

Thats how Mazespin defended Hamilton in Baku

[@andre_star7776]

And Lewis couldn't catch him because the huge lockup created a big flat spot

[@carlfrye1566]

Senna: Don't look at the apex of a turn, look beyond to your exit line and see the apex in your peripheral vision. When you do that you can cut a smoother arc thru the turn.

[@kevinclark7773]

You ever towed a trailer? Those are some crazy wide lines.

[@luisrosales9349]

I feel like y’all have F1 watch parties at 5 in the morning 🤣🤣

[@alexlopez7506]

Hell yea

[@therandomguy2441]

9:02 yeah those are just a couple examples of two drivers battling, but what if you had a 2 second lead over the entire grid with only a few laps remaining? Then the racing line is what allows you to win the race.

[@nathanstanley4733]

0:59 i got spooked when he said “yeah you nathaniel”

[@kittenswithketchup]

SAME 🤣 Hi Nathaniel! I'm Nathaniel!

[@Valleydweller373]

Same I freaked out a bit 😂

[@deleteduser5838]

first:Josh fight now:nathaniel fight

[@kittenswithketchup]

@@deleteduser5838 There is literally a Nathan fight going on in the same place next year. I'm definitely going since I only live a few hours from it.

[@natemorse937]

Me too!

[@trezzz-3z]

"All I think about is using my tires to the fullest and having a good race. [...]If you fully utilize your tires, then no matter what line you take it won't make much difference in racing time. [...] To me, the ideal racing line is not to be sought. It is nothing more than a result!" -Jōshima Toshiya

[@Somerandom1922]

I always loved the idea of taking a deeper (theoretically slower) line to have a higher exit speed before a straight where you can use your higher speed to overtake someone who took the proper racing line.