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[@MakersMuse]

One thing to watch out for is the low temperature resistance of PLA if people wanna print for automotive use, I've had parts deform within minutes in summer. Stick to ABS (If not exposed to UV), PETG, ASA, PA12 or PP if you can get it to print 👌

[@jonytube]

Given that most interior car parts are made of PP, I'd probably print out of it

[@dotJata]

They shoulda collaborated with you instead! ;)

[@alexteichner9988]

Glad to see Angus helping clarify some of the information in this video. Keep up the good work my dude

[@everettebinger5956]

@@dotJata Totally agree!

[@schweglerd]

So weird to see these 2 worlds come together

[@mirfalltnixein.1]

Title: 300,000$. Literally 2 seconds in: 250,000$.

[@eddie_23]

it fits better i guess

[@smaspa8627]

Eh factor in the cost of the engineer running the thing

[@mirfalltnixein.1]

@@eddie_23 Yeah, I realize that's why they do it, but calling your own title out for lying 2 seconds in is still pretty funny.

[@CallumPlayzAu]

inflation 😅

[@madeinstien]

Well, it depreciated in value that fast

[@FABIZN7]

I did expect a bit more from this episode to be honest. There are so many options and applications for cars. Like refining prints by sanding filling and painting them to really make them look like bought parts. Missing out on all the awesome metal prints that are available these days. Like F1 uses them.

[@graealex]

One important application for FDM printers is to make molds for carbon-fiber parts. Which directly nets you automotive-grade, heat-resistant and light-weight parts.

[@dsp4392]

Massive props to Bob for coming up to an uncalibrated printer he's never used and actually producing something useful within a few hours. I've been designing, printing and selling 3D printed parts for over 5 years now. "So the printer just failed... Sometimes it happens" has got to be the understatement of the year. 3D printers are finicky af even with the best processes in place. Edit: Also, that tan PEEK material he's talking about in the SLS segment, is about $0.60 *per gram*, so not exactly cheap. PLA plastic as used in the FDM desktop printer is closer to 0.02$/g.

[@asicdathens]

All metal high temp hotend + good heated bed + cheap enclosure you can print PEEK as well. Filament is VERY expensive though

[@elitewolverine]

i get failed prints, but never at the level or frequency I see others get. Perhaps my corner of the house is just 'better' for printing? Even my polycarbonate prints nearly all the time without issue.

[@sp0764]

@@elitewolverine I'm with you. Every failed print has a reason for failure, it's just a game of tracking down and eliminating those bugs.

[@elitewolverine]

@@sp0764 Yup. I took less than 2hrs to get my ender 5 plus dialed in, and then I never touched it for like 7 months in terms of tweaking. I simply made sure the bed was dust free, hit print, and I knew every print would work. And my failure rate was less than 5% give or take a percent. In fact failure was so low, it was a fluke. I could hit print and it would work. Perhaps I got lucky? THough my ender 6 I just setup this weekend, has now produced 15 prints over 2 days with only 1 'error' where the letters on the bottom of the E3D buggy test print were messed up but the whole print still printed, and is lovely.

[@sp0764]

@@elitewolverine my first printer was an ender 5 and it's almost the same story for me. It's an excellent printer. It should be recommend as a first printer over the ender 3 because of the z axis being on the bed. Helps it be very accurate and reliable.

[@Zachariah_Haske]

Bob showing up in this episode is the crossover I never expected… but apparently the one we needed.

[@PabzRoz]

That Ender is not one of the cheapest printers you could buy. It's actually considered a decent printer in the 3D printing community. Especially that model of Ender 3 lol. You can get much cheaper.

[@BurittoSandwich]

And with tons of mod support, you can actually make it a pretty decent printer that could handle basically any filament.

[@MTNDEWGANG]

@@BurittoSandwich yep, just direct drive upgraded my base ender 3 and got a new board with silent drivers. Prints petg and tpu like a champ.

[@PabzRoz]

@@BurittoSandwich Tell me about it lol. SKR mini v3, CR touch, dual gear metal extruder, Dragonfly BMS hotend, new thermistor, custom part cooling duct, raspberry pi with a webcam for octoprint, glass bed, noctua fan mods on all the fans, etc. etc. Once I started I couldn't stop. It's an addiction. And all of that is just a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of mods and customization you can do with that printer.

[@astrofeeder777]

false. ender is a cheap model lmfao. prusa printers are twice the cost of an ender and theyre made out of 3d printed components. the point he was making wasnt necessarily about quality anyway, he said its one of the cheapest, not one of the worst. but id never buy an ender lmfao.

[@MTNDEWGANG]

@@astrofeeder777 He never said it wasn't expensive. He stated that it's not the cheapest on the market, there's printers that are wayyyy cheaper than the ender 3's.

[@ExtraFungus]

As someone who's been 3d printing for 7 years, I hate the misinformation, but glad to see the episode.

[@logostouwy1715]

As someone who knows nothing about 3d printing, what was the misinformation

[@superjive8282]

Would also like to know what the misinformation was

[@ExtraFungus]

@@superjive8282 prices, print quality, some of the names of the materials were wrong. Production takes a while, so it's understandable prices would be wrong, but the ender 3 has been under $200 for years, and goes on sale for $100 if you're near a microcenter. Don't get it twisted, even with the mistakes and misinformation, it's still a good episode. I find it comical they did better with information on the Pontiac Fiero episode when everyone else butchers it, but they did worse on a 3d printing episode.

[@R3D_Lantern]

Good to know. Thanks.

[@patrickrhoades480]

@@superjive8282 It's not the cheapest 3d printer. It's the best bang for your buck printer. Also I doubt that those discs will survive in the interior in the summer heat. Most filaments the ender 3 can print will hit glass transition temps in the summer heat in the interior. For car interiors you can upgrade the ender 3 with an all metal hot end, steel nozzle, enclosure, fume extractor and an upgraded thermistor and print nylons, abs and polycarbonates that will survive the heat of the interior and engine bay. Even with those upgrades the ender 3 is the best bang for your buck. The printer that's a step up are the prusa 3d printers but will cost more than an ender 3 upgraded for higher temp filament (if I remember correctly) while only being able to print the same filaments as a stock ender 3. You pay more for the prusa for a bigger build area, higher accuracy and shorter print times which can make a huge difference on larger prints with more complicated geometries. The prusa is also less fussy compared to the ender 3

[@Ian.Smith44]

The quality of a print really depends on tuning. I have an ender 3 that had terrible quality but then when I properly tuned it, the parts coming off the bed look almost injection molded

[@creavityatrandom]

What did you tune yours to?

[@chy4e431]

​@@creavityatrandom calibrate e steps, level bed, install bltouch or similar, calibrate flow, calibrate retraction distance/speed, calibrate temperature. there are plenty of good guides for this online

[@honkhonk8009]

My ender3 straight up came perfectly calibrated from the start lmfao Its insane how they built nowadays.

[@chy4e431]

@@honkhonk8009 meh, ender 3 are notorious for bad quality. I have an ender 3v2, while esteps are perfectly calibrated the fans started breaking after a few months and its now unbearable to be in the same room as the printer.

[@LithicKing]

@@honkhonk8009 it wont last, it will fall out of calibration over time

[@benhockley]

This has got to be one of the most realistic demonstrations of 3D printers I've seen. Most channels just show things working in usually ideal conditions, but anyone who has worked with 3D printers knows the pain that Bob went through delivering for this video.

[@Yates.Diesel]

The sound effects every time Nolan fixes his glasses always get me lol

[@hawkeye_rob]

A cool project for low car would be to design a cosmetic hood scoop to cover up that elephant trunk sticking out of the hood left after doing the v8 swap. You could 3D print a mold and use it to fabricate a carbon fiber component to bond to the hood. It's not as hard as it sounds but would make that hood look like you did it on purpose instead of leaving the hood rough cut with a hose sticking out.

[@markoz673bajen8]

Hi Low Car and Jerry's Bike Project I hope would happen someday.

[@parallelsandtangents938]

Or 3d print it with polycarbonate filament.

[@imjstcl]

That nose is an absolute tragedy on a very cool car

[@Justsayin71]

They don’t do anything challenging anymore

[@rikkatheconure2395]

Hi rob

[@washinthewind]

"Hi, I'm Bob at I Like to Drive Stuff!" When Bob mentioned he had done some collaboration with y'all I was super excited because he's one of my long time faves and Donut is a newer fave. This is an awesome combination and I hope there is more to come!

[@vitoru1000]

Hi, 3DPrinting specialist here. Awesome video, I know when starting in a new area can be overwhelming with information, principally 3dprinting that is growing exponentially. I also understand why is important to break down to make easier to understand. Although I wanted that you break apart about the different types of 3d printer. Hopefully you guys start learning more and more about the slicer you are using, and soon you guys can get even better parts. Congrats in general!

[@zwh697]

Hey, 3D printing SME here (8yrs exp). The main difference b/t cheap printers and more expensive printers is 1. The build volume, and 2. The build chamber temperature regulation. To print the PEEK, Ultem1010, CF Nylon, materials you have to have a build chamber that can reach 150 degrees C. For FDM machines the deposition rate is similar throughout all price points. If you all ever want a metal 3D printing SME hit me up

[@denoftools]

Would have been nice to see some MSLA in the mix.

[@johnhumphrey8168]

Ender 3 is quite a powerful 3d printer. There's definetly worse printers to do for a cheap printer comparison. Most of its printii capability is based on the user's ability to tune it

[@skitterlitter]

It’s actually not the Ender 3 it’s the Ender 3 S1

[@fabiofanf3e813]

@@skitterlitter so its just an even better ender 3?

[@DemonicAnimatronic]

@@fabiofanf3e813 sort of, it’s got a lot different. It has a sprite direct drive extruder, self leveling with matrix sensor. dual lead screws on the z axis. Filament run out detection (that they didn’t even setup properly in the video) the list goes on compared to a standard Ender 3.. mind you an Ender three is also only like $150.00. But the failures in this video are user error and not actually setting the printer up properly (which is super easy with the S1 because of the CR touch sensor.

[@natecas0865]

I have a CR-10 and I can attest to the statement that most of its printing capability is based on the user's ability to tune it 😂 Definitely not the easiest to tune correctly, but once you do the printer is amazing for its price

[@JonBergacs]

I have an ender 3. I Have had amazing results with mine. Once you dial it in its amazing. The biggest difference for me was the addition of a glass plate. My ender 3 is the generation before that one but still prints amazingly.

[@tomwills1163]

I'd like to see them 3D print the ridge wallet in both machines then compare them.

[@R3D_Lantern]

That's a great idea right here.

[@reubenmiller2142]

That would be jokes, probably some IP legal issues though

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

I don't think you can print an actual carbon fiber weave tho lol

[@supersandwich8967]

@@GlorifiedGremlin who knows maybe some might

[@supersandwich8967]

@@reubenmiller2142 unless you call it the bridge wallet

[@EconomicsMate1]

3D printing truly is a game changer. I remember 15 years ago when 3D printers were commerical only and were less powerful than the home ones you and I could buy. I've printed so many different things. Love it

[@kristofk1902]

Maybe it’s the cheapest one that actually works

[@TheBreaded]

7 years ago wasn't that long ago. From then to now the main thing has been a race to the bottom on price. But even 5-6 years ago we a had a lot of the same cheap 3d printers we have today in their initial form. The CR-10 is 6 years old.

[@joeno4683]

Reprap project started in 05 and commercial mainstream hobbyist printers have been around since 2012. Hobbyist FFF printers went commercial when Scott Crump’s patent on FDM (Stratasys) expired in 2009. Similar thing happened with EOS’ patent on SLA. More like 10-12 years ago instead of 7.

[@Foxtrot_Foxtrot_Lima]

Did you read that before you posted it? First, 3D printers have been out way longer than 7 years. Second, if they were "commercial only" you wouldn't be buying a home one. Do you know what the word "only" even means?

[@EconomicsMate1]

@@joeno4683 simple mistake on my part mate. I meant to write 15 not 7 🤷

[@TokyoChopSquad]

A highly modified ender 3 can produce the same quality print with a smaller print nozzle and a slicer setting to match. The price really only reflects size of print volume, ringing in prints, and and maybe other featuress like an I closure to keep the air arround the part warm. I reccomend Carbonfiber Nylon, it's what I use for my Saab parts (NACA ducts, replacement trim, brackets)

[@MrAlexgiu]

these are car guys, 3DP is another language to them

[@honkhonk8009]

@@MrAlexgiu Wouldnt that mean the polar opposite? Most car guys ik are big on DIY shit. 3D printers are worth it in hobby stuff in general.

[@MrAlexgiu]

@@honkhonk8009 its a sense of mechanical vs electrical/computer science

[@Tim2716]

As someone who has a $300 3-D printer, I personally think it prints really high-quality parts, not high enough to be in cars, but high enough to be desk toys.

[@beavonmoranga9048]

its shitty to be honest . I bought anycubic kobra max. damn i regret my choice

[@Tim2716]

@@beavonmoranga9048 I feel bad for you.

[@archemides1517]

@@Tim2716 nowawdays 300 you can get a pretty good printer i got my ender 3 s1 for like 270 it comes with a CR Touch which to me is now mandatory on all printers and after leveling the bed knobs could print great prints even better and at 150mm after i got klipper installed on it

[@Grant3758]

Thinking of buying a printer to help organize my garage? Looking at svo6 and ender 3s? Thanks

[@pine1780]

@@Tim2716 Custom mounting brackets for pc parts it seems like a steal. Sometimes smaller based things are needed to fit a part but isn't a thing. For example internal temperature LCD screens, they're so different to each one, you need to have custom printed bracket.

[@dotJata]

Ah yes the MakerBot replicator a SLS printer. 🤣 @2:15

[@isaacfortner]

A few errors: When mentioning SLA/SLS, the editor shows a picture of another FDM machine (Makerbot). There is no consumer SLS machine, and they are quite different from SLA, using lasers to melt powered plastic. SLA uses uses UV lasers or LCD panels masking a UV light source to cure a vat of liquid resin into a part. Bob would know this. It’s “StRatasys”, not “STATasys” as Zach called it. The biggest benefit to the more expensive FDM printers is the ability to print the exotic high temp materials. For production quantities that don’t require those exotic plastics, other printers like SLA or MJF can produce production lots of parts less expensively. PEEK is an amazing plastic, but it is VERY expensive because of that. People trying to get their car parts out of PEEK might be shocked at the quoted print prices.

[@Nicksperiments]

Out of the errors, him saying statasys bothered me the most

[@Lucas_sGarage]

actually form labs just dropped one, the fuse 1, its a "hobby grade" SLS 3d printer

[@BPBomber]

Am I really the only one who misses the old Donut shows?

[@CamAteUrKFC]

No I do too. It feels lazy lately.

[@BPBomber]

@@CamAteUrKFC Thanks man. I don’t DISlike the new stuff they’re making, I just really miss the old stuff like B2B, H/L, Wheelhouse, Up to Speed, Money Pit, etc. I wish they would at least let us know if it’s in the plans to bring them back.

[@dustondoesit3913]

If you want print quality, everyone knows resin is the way to go. Nozzle size and calibration are key for quality on FDM printers. A large scale 3d printer is exactly that, for printing large scale objects.

[@davisdesigns1153]

The Creality printer is good enough for most people and you can get it for cheaper than in the video

[@yeahitsyieh]

This is NOT a collab I ever expected to happen, but I'm all for it !

[@VAL3NTIN3]

You like ridge wallet

[@ZigorMorgan]

Hi

[@__K__B__]

You can print print as many colors as you want on the Ender too, but there are obviously limits. You just put a pause on the layer right before the letters raise up (in Donut for example) and then swap the filament and resume. There is usually a default macro "m600" that exists for this purpose and it will pause, move the head out of the way, etc.

[@FREEJUMPER000]

if u have an directdrive feed, you can just cut the filament off at the right moment while printing and insert the new color, all without even the need to stop the print.

[@drhodes4601]

Buy a multi color printer and quit fighting to make a print. Many of my prints have 4 colors on every layer. the change filament buy layer doesn't work in those situations.

[@yashthegamer4250]

0:34 oh yeah let me buy a ridge walet, it's a flamethrower resistant! -said nobody ever

[@solarpunk9994]

3d printers are getting pretty insane and I love to see where the industry is going you can print anything from plastic to metal to carbon fiber to glass to wood to concrete and everything in between

[@JavaRacingCo]

PLEASE LOWER THE MUSIC VOLUME OR MAKE YOUR VOICES LOUDER. I’m constantly adjusting the volume to be able to watch this video.

[@carsondobbs6824]

You guys should try and get someone to show you a metal printer. I know they're common in aerospace but I wouldn't be surprised if they're used for turbo intakes, manifolds, and any weirdly shaped mounting brackets and supports

[@alexteichner9988]

I've heard of them being used in NASCAR

[@jakegarrett8109]

Koenigsegg makes their entire variable vane turbocharger for one, not just a turbo intake.

[@MaxC_1]

they are often used in F1 for testing out new parts and designs for cheap and SLS printers aka 3D Metal printers are not very uncommon so should be easy to find

[@leviathan19]

papadakis racing youtube channel and you will see metal 3d printing of exhaust manifold on inconel if I can remember right

[@alexteichner9988]

@@leviathan19 that's a serious alloy

[@TheSanpletext]

Dual extreuder doesn't justify 7k price. 'Tho iut's Ultimaker, Apple of 3d-printers so, yeah. You can DIY enclusoure and camera etc around eg. MK3 + MMU with fraction of that price.

[@TheSanpletext]

Also comparing rectilinear and monotonic top infill doesn't correlate with price at al.

[@23Shadowfox23]

This is the crossover I didn't think I needed BUT MAN, I am glad this happened

[@KingSalto]

Same here!

[@WovenThorns]

I’ve been paying more close attention to the Donut Media channel since Bob mentioned it on his podcast. I subscribe to both, but don’t always watch every video. Super fun to see him here. Maybe next we have Donut vs Jimmy Diresta on modifying a truck bed. 😋

[@rikkatheconure2395]

Sup kev

[@EagleFPV43]

$185000 printer underextruding is crazy

[@tiesflies]

If I have a bulky wallet from the 90s that my dad also used, then yes it is absolutely durable lol.

[@johnnyjohnathon7381]

Yeah those ridge wallets are absolute garbage. You pay 90 bucks for a terribly designed wallet that literally cant hold more than 100 dollars in cash and tears holes in your pocket. There's a reason wallets haven't changed much in like over 100 years.

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

I like how at the high end high production print shop, you can see all the neat little projects the employees work on in their spare time like that boot or the mew lol it was the exact same way when my dad worked at a metal fab shop in the military. Everybody had cool metal stuff they'd made. They made my dad an entire sword when he retired lol

[@Maderasdesign]

My favorite are the muffler shops that weld a tin man out of used pipes and mufflers lol.

[@staykota117]

That's why they do it because they have a love for it and enjoy it. Yes they work and build things for customers and what not but you always have to have time to build your own fun projects

[@johnathonsmith6893]

I'm in tool and die and when I'm not building for the company I'm either marching tools for me to use or just a fun little project

[@i8urbabi]

@@johnathonsmith6893 Yeah if i didn't tinker I wouldn't learn anything new. Because trying something different and learn something new can make us realize we've wasted so much time doing things a different way.

[@natekeyawa5340]

Why not half a sword?

[@mekg5430]

I've been using an Ender 3 v2 for a few years now and works great for printing interior car accessories. A couple of mods like a glass print bed and automatic bed leveler really reduce the amount of failed prints! Using software like Ultimaker Cura can help with adding the detail to prints (while increasing print time) along with just a little bit of sanding goes a long way as well!

[@NLamki2002]

What automatic bed leveler do you use?

[@taylon5200]

That sounds like a spell in final fantasy lmao. Especially since Ultima, and cura ARE spells in FF 😂😂 I love it!

[@BenDunlop]

@@NLamki2002 also interested in knowing this

[@mekg5430]

@@NLamki2002 I am unable to attach Amazon links so here are the names of the bed leveler and the board upgrade I used. You may need to flash a new firmware to read the bed leveler: Dawnblade Creality CR-Touch Auto Bed Leveling Sensor Kit, for Ender-3 / Ender-5 / CR-10 Series, Official 3D Printer Upgrade Kit Creality V4.2.7 Upgrade Mute Silent Mainboard for Ender 3 Customized Silent Board, Ender 3 Silent Mother Board

[@NLamki2002]

@@mekg5430 is the board upgrade required?

[@bobbymaroon3306]

I used a 3D scanner app and my ender 3 to create and print new trim clips for my el camino. Honestly has saved me so much money. Also printed my license plate holder in 2 pieces and fused it together. Cost me about $10 in fullerene compared to $90 on eBay

[@caddyguy5369]

Which app?

[@jakewilliams6128]

^

[@Maderasdesign]

@@caddyguy5369 heges is a good one to use with an iphone front facing camera since it has Lidar. That's what i use to scan my car, it has a learning curve though.

[@caddyguy5369]

@@Maderasdesign I've been eyeing up consumer 3d scanners for a while. Maybe I should get a used iPhone.

[@Maderasdesign]

@@caddyguy5369 for sure! Im about to make a handle that lets me point the phone at my object and a mirror underneath to see what im scanning lol. Its hard to use the front facing camera for scanning sometimes

[@Lucas_sGarage]

"this thing print faster than other desktop FDM printer?" "OMG it's so much faster" me: *laughs in the Voron 2.4 r2*

[@myMotoring]

2:19 that "SLS" printer you are showing is a MakerBot Replicator, which is also an FDM printer.

[@Tuhopolttaja]

2:37 a correction, it's PET (or PETG as in polyethylene glycol), not "PT". Also, you don't print carbon fiber, you print carbon fiber additive materials, where there are carbon fibers added to the polymer material for reinforcement, as mentioned in 15:30

[@Josh-jw3go]

Thank you for your service, Private Pedantry

[@albertastrofimovas]

Gotta check your hearing as he clearly says P-E-T.

[@Tuhopolttaja]

@@albertastrofimovas He says, but the annotation is incorrect

[@subarududewrxt]

Polyethylene terephthalate glycol

[@h8GW]

@@sylaswojciechowski6895 I feel like this was more "reporting" than making an instructional video, so it gets a pass for small errors. As you know, journalism might cover a wide variety of topics that a journalist might not be familiar about, so keep that in mind when some extremist "independent news source" presents mistakes by "the other size" to "prove" they're untrustworthy.

[@jarodhohl861]

Nice to see 3dp in donut vids. Try out the older ender3/ender3 v2, they are about $100 less. they may require a bit more troubleshooting, but are still capable. I've had an 1st gen ender3 for a few years and it gets the job done. Also there is a large community around modifying the ender3 to make it more capable.

[@justaaron488]

Damnit I really thought my old man wallet would survive a flamethrower. Never know when I’m going to spontaneously burst into flames.

[@charlesrozell848]

Yes, if only your cash was on the outside of a fire resistant sleeve it would be okay.

[@kentuckygardensnake4248]

Hopefully it doesn’t happen in our pockets

[@TrueEliteGeek]

These guys need to watch my video on how to properly angle SLA prints to have the smoothest surface. I can see the lines in that final print.

[@krisnrg]

You can do that with a Bambu labs now. That’s why Stratuses is suing them lol

[@kwebbledouble2312]

Zack Jobe standing on a cube that can support his weight : “ this is the future “

[@sgsax]

I've been waiting to see what Bob did with you while he was there. Very cool demo. I've got an Ender 3 v2 myself. In spite of the caveats you talked about here, which are completely legitimate, the Ender is one of the better OOTB experiences compared to others in its price class. It's a decent gateway to casual hobbiests. Now I just need to figure out what I can print with it for my car.

[@shplayshiggty7537]

For the ender 3 you'll need to adjust the infill and turn on ironing but other than that you can def make those look identical.

[@vibinz6693]

I think one of the reasons they looked so different is because of the hole on the ender 3's part, that would make the nozzle have to go different ways to print that, which would make it have that rough texture

[@shplayshiggty7537]

@@vibinz6693 so I have an ender 3 and the ironing option I talk about smooths it all out. It's not just the printer it's also the slicer they're using.

[@Johndoe309]

You can make almost any print look factory finished off even the cheapest machines with enuff post print finishing and painting..they really help to bring ideas to life or create low volume production...

[@otis556]

"This is your dads wallet you inherited from the 90's, it isn't durable" is a wild phrase

[@randymay]

Very cool to see them make a video about this but there is a lot of missing info about it for sure. Also there is no "Just print it" there needs to be a working and printable design. People do upload some files for free but most of the time your going to be making the parts yourself seeing that there are no files for them. Cheaper 3D scanners will help a lot but they are not easy to use for the most part so you will need to learn how to use them. My channel is gearing up to be all about how to do this. I will be showing how to make parts from scratch using different methods like 3D printing, 3D scanning, laser cutting / engraving and metal casting. 😁👍

[@maryckbuilds]

I just took a peek at your channel and your videos are great. Keep it up! Truth be told I started this channel with a similar intent as I've long believed the 'mechanical' side of making could use the same kind of love software & electronics get. I find that the problem many newcomers have with kits & programs is that they teach the absolute basics then there's barely any good forms of progression/tool or design knowledge etc. and if they want to continue things quickly get out of scope. Unfortunately, I've been busy with school, but your channel has encouraged me to at least bump it as a priority.

[@OscarHernandez-qy1ux]

Also with the ender for relatively cheap upgrade you are able to print carbon fibre/ nylon which would be able to withstand the heat of and engine bay so that could be something to test in the future

[@thefoodcan]

You can print abs with out upgrades, you really just need to build a box around it to keep the heat in it.

[@canelaprod270]

These KZbin collabs have been killing me. Bob at donut?? Heck yeah

[@Iliketomakestuff]

😀

[@Orrinn123]

2:34 He's saying "PET", not "PT". It's one of the more common materials for 3d printing which also happens to be the same plastic used for most plastic bottles

[@jacksongrant8649]

In the thumbnail the reason why the $300,000 one printed worse was because it was printed horizontally so the width of the nozzle was basically the finest point the printer could draw in but the $300 one was printed vertically so the layers were squished and was able to print the details better.

[@willsintheair]

The Creality Ender 3D printers are genuinely excellent for the price. If you’re on the fence, go ahead and pick one up. Very fun and practical. I’ve done 100s of prints with mine and she’s still going strong. I’m using the 3 year old model as well so the newer one is significantly better than mine.

[@sirseriously]

I've got an older model (Cr-10) that has been going strong since 2017. Great platform.

[@obviouslycars]

I'm glad that you guys are shedding more light on the world of 3d printing. It is such a fun hobby, and it is changing the world.

[@206beastman]

3d printing is nerd bs

[@jarodhohl861]

​@@206beastman what is too hard for you?

[@JimBob1937]

@@206beastman , it's pretty effective, just not a high volume production method.

[@jakegarrett8109]

@@206beastman Useful for lots of stuff, may save your life one day (they can both make weapons liberating countries, to medical parts), they can do quite a bit. Sure, the exotic supercars are really the only people using them to print titanium turbochargers (due to impossible to manufacture geometry with casting or CNC), but they have a lot of application and lots of parts of my motorcycle are slowly getting vibration dampening or mounting, or heck even my temporary tag is printed because the state says it takes them nearly a MONTH to replace my tag... I can't just not work for a month...

[@JimBob1937]

@@MaxC_1 , I think you read way too much into my reply, lol. The guy I was responding to said 3D printing was 'BS.' To which I responded, it is very useful, just not great for high volume, just in case that was his issue. I use 3D printing all of the time myself for straight up prints, prototyping, and models for metal casting. So, you're preaching to the choir ;-)

[@KaiMirra]

I love ILTMS, Bob is such a cool dude 😎 awesome to see these two YT channels get together.

[@TeamSoulIntent]

Yoooo! Big props for the ratfink shirt, I was so shocked to see that. Ed roth is my all time favorite artist 👌

[@Mofenbrau]

Bro the lil squeak when Nolan pushes up his glasses gets me every time

[@Englishguy1]

IMO Donuts infomercials are worthy of their own play list

[@317NEETz]

I remember when my school got a 3D printer for the first time 8 years ago and I took a whole day to get a cube you could fit in your hand printed out. But it was dope asf cus it just made something tangible and interactive

[@stuartt4029]

Would have been cool to see some current gen metal 3d printing. I had a custom bracket made for my engine bay in steel. Designed myself in 3d software, sent the file through a company online's upload system, paid $50 and had the part in my mailbox in 2 weeks.

[@SSmallwood]

wow! what site did u use? sounds awesome for custom fab stuff i dont have the tools for

[@BedroomMachinist]

Check out titans of cnc they have amazing metal prints

[@stefancgxz7799]

That’s cool, what is the bracket used for and how does the quality hold up? This would be a good thing to replace certain parts you can’t find anywhere.

[@masternoureddine6701]

2:37 .. It's PET, PLA, ABS,

[@bryanwilliams6767]

At about 9:25... Love the honesty. Watching a 3d printer falls somewhere between watching paint dry, and watching grass grow.

[@schizophrenicgaming365]

The sPro60 is "good" for 15x13x18 but the outside inch or so has some weird thermals going on that causes warping, so if that matters to you the effective build area is only around 11x13x18. Unless 3D Systems fixed that in the later revisions, i have no idea.

[@DannyMdlG]

Nolan's "system error" soundbite edit was as on point as the reloading sound when he fixes his scopes. Lmao

[@CatsDontBark]

Completely unexpected crossover! ❤️

[@emmanuelponce6380]

Pogo Shoes !!!!

[@Foollishgambino]

The windows noise at 2:44 made me laugh out loud idk why

[@phantomsmithy]

I like how with the expensive one he was like "This looks like shit, and we hear that a lot... but imagine you wanted 1,000!" If I was wanting 1,000 identical parts, I sure as hell don't want them to look like THAT. Also the blue MSLA prints at the end had visible layer lines. The Mars 2 Pro I used years ago printed better looking parts. Was this a "quick, just hit GO" type demo with the lowest settings they could find?

[@wilgarcia1]

It would be pretty cool if you guys tossed the file for that plug on Thingiverse so people can print their own =)

[@arijustoleikis4283]

I was so surprised to see Bob here, been folowing his work for a realy long time now

[@Robstrap]

When your "expert" isn't an expert

[@wrappnalaskan]

"Mess with it for a while" perfectly describes how I learned to weld

[@----.__]

For anyone suffering lift off of parts from the print bed, try using a glue stick to apply a thin layer of glue prior to printing. I use the same thin layer for 5 or 6 prints before I add a dot more, and then I'll do about 20 prints before removing the plate and cleaning in soapy water. Haven't had a model lift/move since using the glue stick method, although you do have to wait for the bed to cool down a lot more before the model will release!

[@rossdouglas7115]

As someone who prints in resin I physically recoiled when you smelled the uncured print 16:09 🤣 won't catch me near it without my respirator

[@mrdurp9]

The ender 3 is actually a v2 if im not mistaken. The base model is around 200 to 150. The base model is super worth it and I use it often

[@vibinz6693]

pretty sure that's an s1, because of the sprite dd extruder

[@honkhonk8009]

ikr. I have the cheap $150 model one and it works nicely. At the end of the day, all printers use cheap $10 Steppers with cheap chinese silicon to drive em. Its the slicing software that prolly makes the largest difference imo

[@935662]

crazy you can get everything the ultimaker has for 200 bucks now with the bambu a1 mini just a year later. You're just missing the volume/print space.

[@tommcmahon6354]

SLS and SLA are two completely different technologies. Selective Laser Sintering/SLS involves a laser sintering a plastic powder. Stereolithography/SLA involves a laser curing a liquid photopolymer resin.

[@jakegrossman6259]

2 minutes in and craziest crossover ever, love both your channels and so happy you guys collaborated on this!!

[@Mitsuolevel]

That $300,000 printer under extruding 😆, also the vertex part was probably like $40 in material 😆

[@snowboardik]

it is not, it is just have bigger (than reprap standard 0.4) nozzles and 0.254mm minimum layer high preset

[@Mitsuolevel]

Nozzle size would not enough if it's not putting out enough filment because it's going to fast or is to cold

[@snowboardik]

The gaps you see on the top is because this gaps are smaller than the nozzle diameter, and apparently stratasys slicer not so advanced as a modern open source ones. It is not underextrushion, all strats prints like that and bonding between layers is exceptional, it just looks ugly and always has been like that

[@dtucny]

Hopefully the parts fitted in the car were printed with ABS/ASA. Car interior temperatures on a hot day can exceed what PLA, the most common material typically used, can withstand before deforming.

[@jongagnon5791]

I have a set of 1.5" spacers on top of my struts that outlasted one set of struts and show no signs of falling anytime soon printed of a very old school genesis printer back in 2014 in PETG. Now these days I can print just about any material out there on a heavily modified ender 5 plus and total cost of the printer is still under $2k . Most notable is a supercharger mount made out of pa12+cf that would be normally reserved for a milling machine. 3D printing is so awesome, and you are only limited by your imagination. Haven't tried it but there's no reason I can't print the peek like he mentioned, I know for sure I can get the chamber temp high enough and my hotend can easily handle 410 degrees.

[@hokusai4687]

As someone who uses fusion 360 and prints on an Ender3 V2, this is a REALLY fun video, which totally explains how 3d printing is simultaneously SUPER COOL and SUPER BORING because the average print takes 4 hours and a bad print needs to be restarted 2-3 times.

[@R3AL-AIM]

I guess it counts guys, a lot of light duty accessory brackets and interior pieces are made custom with 3D printing. So this fits with cars, I'll admit lol

[@lighthawk95]

This was the most painful video on this channel I've seen. Please have someone who knows what they're talking about recreate the entire episode.

[@HalAltman]

So have you made that vid Mr I know everything?

[@lighthawk95]

@@HalAltman plenty others have already

[@HalAltman]

We're waiting

[@lighthawk95]

@@HalAltman what

[@imthedentist]

I just kinda wish the editing was more accurate. For example, the editor wrote "PT" when Bob said PET, and all kinds of cgi examples are kinda iffy. On the other hand, this video isn't made for 3d printing nerds like us

[@TheGreybush92]

It’s so crazy that those 3 pieces took an hour and a half and it was really fast. I have a feeling we’ll be looking back on this video 20 years from now and laughing or remembering these machines like I remember the Motorola RAZR

[@sober4159]

For that price it’s already slow now the 1650 dollar x1 carbon prints around that time if not fast with better quality

[@Mr_Yod]

@@sober4159 Look at the benchy speed race: there were fast printers even before the bamboo one. =)

[@XBLACKWHITEX171]

I 3d printed a snorkel for my ST lol. Theres a couple things you can do. Snorkels, washer fluid caps, phone holders, center console organizers, pedal spacers, etc

[@murderdoggg]

9:13 the crosshatching is because of the (Donut) hole in the middle of the fan switch cover thingy.

[@gk2011]

Ender 3 is generally considered to be a pretty good printer, it is very moddable and upgradable to however you like. Out of the box you will get ok pla and ABS(add an enclosure) parts, but its strength is being very versatile for FDM style prints.

[@Fireator21]

Donut sponsor segments are probably the best I've seen.

[@taylon5200]

Nah, internet historian 👌 but donut does fantastic regardless!

[@taylon5200]

Sorry, just realized you said "that you've seen" making that anecdotal, sorry!

[@Thatdavemarsh]

It should be noted that Cura - the ultimate software, is free and works with the Crealty printer. Great vid.

[@wolfydawolf_35]

The Expensive printer is meant for printing durable parts and isn't meant for precision. The hobby printer is meant for smaller prints with more precision

[@Bliss_Tech]

oh my goodness, hahahahahahahaha I laughed so hard at the added "as much as we wanted to find that out, Nolan and I got diarrhea. LOL

[@dylandavis934]

Bambu x1c would be a good comp for the video as well

[@Gagliano17]

not to be mean, but your ender and ulti prints look awful, my ender 3 1 with mods prints way way way way better than that, you're not using linear advance nor iron'ing options, and beside that 20.000 other settings aren't tuned either, and the ones you've used to present against the expensive printer look garbage.

[@leonjohansen1818]

Yeah Imma cut him some slack, cause they invited him over and just told him "hey this is a printer, what can you do with it". at 9:20 you can see his mild annoyance at the situation he's in lmao.

[@swaroopajit]

Adnaan, quite clearly mentions you can get better resolution with cheap 3d printers and that it depends on the model and your settings, so in my books that's ok.

[@trailblazer8380]

Instead of paying $2k and up for a Miata hardtop, I wanna 3d print one in sections, glue it together and use that as a mold to make a fiberglass one, the use plexiglass from the hardware store for the rear window and bam!

[@VZBudgetBuildz]

You could build it out of 3D Lego😊

[@MrAlexgiu]

"Oh yeah, the startup time is like 10-15 minutes, way faster than a desktop" bro are you serious, my CR-10 takes 90 seconds to preheat. Also, that boot he's holding is an SLA (resin) print, it didn't come out of an FDM printer

[@jedaniels94]

Can you guys do a Tool Party episode on jacks, ramps, & lifts? Am I gonna die if I buy a QuickJack or a scissor lift? Put the Cabrio on a set of QuickJacks and see how hard Jimmy has to bump into it before it falls.

[@coreycarnill821]

Love the videos! Keep them coming