Breaking Into Every Wheel Lock ($15 vs $450)

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[@Donut]

We sent this to our friend LockPickingLawyer, watch his video here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3mmaox8qpZsepI

[@jashea7610]

Literally just came from his video

[@sanketmanna8653]

I just came from his video......never seen him defeated by a challenge. Great job! It took him good 2:30 minutes. Though he mentioned prying would be better before even starting.

[@ZeronXL]

@@sanketmanna8653 He was not defeated.

[@jeremypnet]

@@ZeronXL that’s what he said. Just came from the LPL video, never seen him defeated. That implies not even the one he just watched.

[@joetroutt7425]

Just seen it

[@Bradamsmx5]

Best wheel lock ever, just cross thread one or two lugs while installing them. Unbeatable.

[@Meekmillan]

Fax 😂😂😂

[@Admiral_Potato41]

Natures loctite!

[@skozra]

Too true !!

[@TheMCD1989]

Good old Canadian loctite!

[@Iamthestig42069]

Or using old Chrysler or Willys wheel studs with reverse thread. Breaking off 20 lugs isn’t efficient burgling

[@andrewolson5471]

I think the wheel locks are usually intended to be more of a deterrent, as thieves usually want an easier, and quieter target.

[@grimarania6097]

Exactly!!

[@grimarania6097]

Exactly!!

[@TheTouchdownBrown]

Locks only keep out honest people.

[@caleb8659]

I can buy 95% of wheel lock keys at any auto store for 5-10 bucks each. They dont slow down any dedicated wheel thief.

[@DjDolHaus86]

All locks are just a deterrent, if you want to get past any security device there is always a way

[@EricDaMAJ]

The key to never having your wheels stolen is to never have wheels worth stealing.

[@necorV]

imagine having a car.

[@matthewmondragon2074]

True, but and option if someone have aftermarket wheels better choice is change to factory ones if its casual driving and change them to aftermarket a day before an exhibition. Untill are factory wheels risk of stealing is fucked.

[@harrycallahan9733]

Or, when you shoot a thief trying to steal your wheels on site, the cops don't arrest you, the DAs don't prosecute you, and the mayor will write you a check as reward for getting rid of one thief for the society. THAT will make stealing wheels truly not worthy and all thieves will quit this line of work and go find a job and work for a living :)

[@TheLiamis]

A problem that hasn't existed here in the UK for about 20 years, noone steals wheels anymore.

[@geoffstrickler]

And, use basic wheel locks on stock/factory wheels that have any market value. If it’s easier to steal someone else’s similar wheels, they’l go for the easier one.

[@ppunion]

I'm here from the lockpicking lawyer. All I can say is that the lock itself is scary difficult. It took the lockpicking lawyer MINUTES to pick. Like... That's olympic level difficult. But as you guys demonstrated, criminals will take the path of least resistance (that they know about) and pry it of. The real wisdom is: The unbeatable lock does not exist. The lock that makes things so difficult that criminals go elsewhere DOES exist. And that really is what you should go for.

[@markandrews7701]

Exactly. Deterrents don't have to be impossible to circumvent, they just have to make your property a harder target than another, nearby, target. Your car, house, bike, whatever has a deterrent of any sort and the one right next to it doesn't. Which is the thief going to choose?

[@BigDavie2000]

@@markandrews7701 If there is a row of houses but only one has an alarm, which one will most likely have valuables? Thieves are getting more blatant in their approach and caring less if they bring attention to themselves. If your neighbours alarm went off and you take a look and see half a dozen masked men helping themselves to your neighbours belongings will you intervene? You would likely call the police but the thieves will be long gone by the time they arrive. I still think having an alarm is better than not but they are not as feared as they used to be.

[@filanfyretracker]

this is true of all security, the idea is to raise your fruit status on the tree. physical or digital the idea is to never be the lowest peach on the tree. Hence why crooks raiding cars check the doors, they could bust a window but if a door opens they just got access silently but also by opening the door a random person just thinks they should be in there.

[@Mooza1]

Seems like an easy solution to fix the problem - that metal ring that bent when pried, if they used a harder steel, would be much more difficult. Wouldn't take much to fix. I mean, it still adds weight, looks terrible, has to be ordered exactly for your car, and is super expensive, but that aside...

[@KoudZ]

@@markandrews7701 The problem is, that in this case, the ordinary thief would go for the brute force and would be succesful fast and easy.

[@SWISS-1337]

I love how the lock picking lawyer is slowly becoming the king of KZbin. Every channel eventually needs a solution from him, and he always has the key... Which also ironically, isn't a key.

[@mikoro88]

Can't wait to see him pick this shitty lock in _literally_ seconds!

[@mikoro88]

It looks like a wafer lock.. should not post any problems for LPL!

[@SWISS-1337]

@@reyzawawi7946 what.

[@mikoro88]

@@SWISS-1337 what he said..

[@zeeshanyousuf04]

Muggle Azam film

[@grantthompson4014]

Working at a tire shop I dread the day someone buys those expensive locks and loses the key lol. Gotta love when a 5 minute job turns into an hour plus

[@MR-wh6ji]

I didn't know my tires had locks (they were hidden under lug nut caps) and when I took the car for a pair of new tires to the shop... damn a two week hassle emerged from that because I didn't know where the former owner put the darn key.

[@Alex-ls2fw]

@@MR-wh6ji depending on the car, if it's a factory option then you can buy aftermarket sets that copy a whole range of locknuts for that brand.

[@MR-wh6ji]

@@Alex-ls2fw nah these were aftermarket crap ones, one was already messed up by some prior mishandling. So I told them to get rid of these annoying things

[@andreasstrauss5194]

when i worked at vw i always hated when they lost the oem ones because you had like 200 different sets of them and you had to try them until you finally got the one that fits

[@coreydabrowski2249]

Not anymore after this video 🤣

[@kranberrysucks]

something worth mentioning - which makes the 25$ one even more appealing - is that even if it CAN technically come off, you don't really need to be fully protecting your wheels. you just need to make it harder to take it off than the car next to you.

[@MeepChangeling]

I'd rather make it so that stealing my wheel kills whoever tries it. Why kick the can down the road and cause harm to an innocent through your inaction when you could instead remove a criminal from society permantly and prevent all future harm they would have done?

[@richardbruhn8583]

@@MeepChangeling bc ur not the law an will go to jail

[@SrFrancia0]

​@@MeepChangelingbecause we have a justice system for that, not like animals.

[@puffincz3482]

@@MeepChangeling this is in no form or way legal advice nor do I endorse that, but I think that a landmine is what you're looking for here

[@nickgir]

@@SrFrancia0 Sometimes bad animals never learn. Few need to drop to get the point across.

[@advancedlocks]

Hi Donut Media. Thank you for taking the time to review our locks. Your video has achieved many more views than the "infomercial" we filmed in our suburban garage. You guys are very entertaining, but we have some questions about your testing methods. 1) Why did you order ball seat locks for a Miata? Miata’s all take cone seats. A ball seat will never torque down properly in a cone seat. 2) 2) Why did you list our price as $135? While our prices do vary based on what kit you purchase, the set you tested is $90 (we have your receipt to prove it). 3) If you had aftermarket rims, why didn’t you order our locks for aftermarket cone seats? They are designed to fit the smaller diameter lug holes that most aftermarket wheels have (and would have saved you the effort of swapping the wheels out). 4) Why choose McGuard after they easily failed your removal attempts? There is a “Includes Paid Promotion” notice at the start of the video. Is this a paid ad for McGuard disguised as an honest review? As a small American business, we stand behind our products. Though we have not posted a video showing our bolt extractor tests, we have tested them and had other independent tests of our locks against extractors. All removal attempts failed when the correct lock is installed to the correct torque. Call us and we can send you the right set to fit your Miata free of charge. Try the extractor on that set. We have a feeling the results will not be the same.

[@suicidephantom7543]

All valid points except the paid promotion was for Ebay motors

[@zepp3lin]

Even Rimgard got bashed. There's no full proof of protecting the wheels. Just move on and prove that all wheel locks can be removed...🤣🤣🤣

[@jayzn1931]

Would be interested to see new results! I can only imagine you put your best work into securing those wheels!

[@elizabethlambert9746]

Thank you for the clarification, since these guys couldn’t be bothered to reply to us at all.

[@carlosandrade7439]

I'll be ordering a set for my F-350 from you guys.

[@cheeseonhead]

This is such a good series. Whoever came up with this at Donut needs a pay raise

[@RugbyRyan]

Unless it was Nolan. Can’t give him a raise. It’ll go to his head quickly

[@Titoo.1]

I was just watching an older video with a comment recommending this series

[@cheeseonhead]

@@RugbyRyan yeah true, let’s make sure Nolan knows his place

[@Yourmomsucks1057]

Notice how Donut didn't "like" this comment... Lol...

[@ajwirtel]

M lol mm.pmmmomom.mmmm9pom mo. M

[@arronmathew7154]

Ahh, so this is what the Anti-lock Braking System is.

[@MiroPVP]

Are these add-ons? Because I see ABS activating but I don't own any of these products.

[@leoncaples2947]

You might have your spelling mixed up 😂 And maybe a couple other things too

[@andrewterrelonge8501]

😂😂😂

[@thecommentingstug]

@Van Jon Be quiet

[@racer0897]

Correct.

[@BratuB]

LPL brought me here, I haven't seen a lock survive so long in his hands for a very long time. Your methods are also entertaining. Sub earned.

[@johndododoe1411]

It's his video [1457].

[@dynamo1796]

Whats hilarious about that video is that Rimgard themselves respond to it in the comments. Their take? "Oh, we aren't worried about picking and we aren't worried about prying attacks". If you are in the business of securing people's wheels for $450 freaking dollars, you don't get to say "oh well, we aren't worried about the attacks that actually defeat our product". No, you just have a shitty, overpriced product! Furthermore, you clearly do care about prying attacks etc as YOU SHOW IT FAILING IN YOUR PRODUCT DEMO. Thats just outright lying and deceptive actually. If you demonstrate a "professional thief" being unable to pry your product off the wheel then 2 youtubers do it with basic prybars in under a minute, you're just scamming people. As for the defence of, well you can't do it without damaging the wheels, thats very much dependent on the thief, what methods they use and how easy it is for them to onsell. If they have a buyer for some slightly scuffed, very expensive wheels then the point is moot.

[@someoneelse1550]

@@dynamo1796 The scroll bar showed up for your comment

[@Decent9mm]

@@someoneelse1550 😂😂😂😂Hilarious

[@FitmentIndustries]

You had me at the "Professional Thief" .. Im going to go ahead and say naw chief.. -Edgar

[@The_Hulkster]

It's good to see you. Do you have any new videos upcoming with the skinny looking geek guy? Maybe you can team up with Donut someday.

[@Tweezi]

He is sweeediishhhh

[@misseselise3864]

which dr suess book is this from

[@ducttapeanddreams]

The guy robbed cash trucks. It's a deceptively simple demonstration: give a guy with an impressive sounding resume a job he has no experience in.

[@3323ism]

“That’s loose as a goose man. That’s a hotdog sliding down a hallway” Best thing I’ve heard all year! Haha

[@cmattdabrat]

Comes from the phrase 'it's like throwing a hotdog down a hallway' ... If you didn't connect the dots it's a loose woman...

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

LMAO

[@67judge]

He got that joke from Howard Stern

[@dumberconcepts7712]

You must have zero funny friends

[@cmattdabrat]

@@dumberconcepts7712 Nope, just keyboard warrior enemies...

[@austin702]

I just got a new set of Konig’s and so it was worth it to get the $125 Advanced Wheel locks. It’s a really cool design. I called them and was surprised to find out how small of an operation it was, the woman (Liz)who answered the phone had also done some of the machining. Felt good to support a small US based company. I only found out about them from this video, probably the best PR they’ve ever had!

[@nellycoleman8639]

Same spoke to her two days ago for about 20 mins 😂 will definitely order again

[@matrix-fh9tn]

I was ready to buy Advanced Wheel Locks but good thing I found this video. US based small business or not they effortlessly removed it with bolt extractor just like they did with hammer on bolt method on McGard. So I went with the McGard for $25 instead of $125.

[@jabcmw1]

LPL picked the $450 one today! He said that it requires alot of skill. High praise, in my opinion

[@AnimeGamer0]

Pretty good for the $450 one - though as he said, he'd be more concerned with the Prying attack as that is likely the method Car Thieves would go with to defeat the lock.

[@jamesTBurke]

Yea but useless given the fact they pried it off faster

[@coloradostrong]

Skilled people in India? Yes there are. That is where _Alot_ is. Or did you mean "a lot" of skill?

[@needsomekyle]

@@coloradostrong LPL = Lock Picking Lawyer. 🤡

[@kekethetoad]

In the loo, pajeet, not in the street

[@Xerber85]

I’ve had the McGard wheel locks on a whole bunch of cars over the last two decades. Only had a nice set of ENKEI wheels stolen. They tried an failed with a set of Abarth wheels I had. As you’ve demonstrated, if a thief really wants a set of wheels, they can be stolen even with wheel locks installed. But they at least stop the bum driving around with a jack and a lug wrench.

[@mokeimusic]

Wow, move you live in a bad neighborhood.

[@dasbutte6254]

The mcgards can be a bitch if your rims have a recess for the lugs, or if someone over torques them like the tire shop did to me. Straight up broke the key trying to get them off had to order 4 keys and still cut 2.

[@youtubasoarus]

Same, have them but removed them 'cause the key started slipping when trying to torque up the wheels. Was afraid i'd not be able to back them off again.

[@kaisersoze5236]

@@mokeimusic you beat me to it 🙈🤣🤣

[@Xerber85]

@@mokeimusic Both happened away from home, fortunately. 😅 The ENKEI wheels were stolen when I left my car overnight at the college campus. Found it the next morning, standing on bricks. The Abarth wheels happened when I had my car parked in a parking lot in the city centre of a neighbouring city. If you have a set of nice wheels, you do seem to run some risk even in good neighbourhoods. One of my colleagues lives in a middle-class suburb and had his 19” Audi wheels stolen in the middle of the night, while his car was parked in his driveway and he was asleep. Wheel locks didn’t deter them. Wheel theft does seem to have slowed down now that they have switched to headlight theft in recent years, especially those of newer Volvos, which can be removed in like 20 seconds when the hood is open. A set of Volvo headlights can easily be sold online for around $300 to $400 where I live.

[@stagehits]

I've never trusted these locking wheel nuts. That's why I always weld my wheels to the hub.

[@Tidbit0123]

Fool proof

[@sinpinborgerman520]

What are you dumb you should weld the wheele to the car like with bars to the frame duh

[@landonevans818]

What if you get a flat then you can’t get the wheel off dummy

[@stagehits]

@@landonevans818 I just re mount them while they're still on 😉

[@Tidbit0123]

@@stagehits If that fails, take out the axle

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

This tutorial is quite handy for the wheel and tire thievery business.

[@austinwilson3804]

W username

[@michaelmorrison3404]

Or do the opposite for the the non theif

[@GloomGaiGar]

Or just go steal an unprotected one. That's the point of these.

[@richardbrown7970]

Came over after seeing LPL pick the lock, it was a long video for him 😀. I love your upbeat dynamic and enthusiasm, thanks.

[@james2042]

When it comes to thievery, any kind of deterrent is enough to stop most. Locking your car doors is most of the time enough to keep it from getting "broken into". Putting a basic lock on your trailer hitch is enough to keep someone from hitching up to it and taking it. Very few people actually want to take the time and effort to steal something if it requires more than just walking up and grabbing it, and the few who do are going to take it whether you have protections or not.

[@CRneu]

I just wanna say that locking your doors doesn't really stop most vehicle theft nowadays. Smash and grabs are the most common form of vehicle theft. Break a window, grab, walk off. They're in/out in under 10 seconds. The best deterrent is visual. Dont leave things visible and try not to flaunt your wealth. Visibly flaunting your $$$ makes people target you.

[@james2042]

@@CRneu 100% of people who die from cancer, have cancer. 100% of people willing to smash a window, are going to smash a window. But not everyone's willing to smash a window. A lot more people would just tug on a door handle and if it doesn't open, walk away.

[@chesterwsmith]

You don't need it to be impossible, just harder than the next car.

[@robertmyles9124]

@@CRneu You're 100% right. Your comment reminded me of this younger guy I worked with way back in 2007/8 at Burger King. Real naive kid and not all that "street smart." The kind of person that is typically viewed as an easy target. It was after closing one night and he was in the store on his day off just hanging out because he was all buddy-buddy with the night manager. For one reason or another he thought it would be a good idea to pull out a huge wad of cash, at least a thousand dollars, and count it right there on the front counter where anybody and everybody could see. A little while later he decided it was time to go home. He lived within short walking distance so was going to walk home. He barely even made it out of the parking lot before being robbed at gunpoint. Took his cash, wallet, phone, wristwatch and even his shoes. It turned out that another employee working in the back who was "about that life" saw his huge stack of money and knew he was walking home so called one of his "homies" to come up there and wait behind the dumpster for the kid to come out and start walking. The robber and employee that set him up got caught a few days later when they came into the store together to buy food and everyone there who had seen the surveillance footage recognized the robber because the dumbass was wearing the exact same outfit that he wore that night.

[@ViolentMLG]

@@CRneu Yup, this is why I leave my car dirty, deters any thief.

[@lawnmowerdude]

Keep in mind that theft protection isn’t about making it impossible to take but adding more obstacles in the way that deters a lot of thieves who want an easy grab.

[@MrZrazies]

Exactly nobody want to work on it for hours.

[@DG_427]

Which is why they picked the right choice as the best. Cheap enough for 4 wheels and vicegrips don't work on it.

[@MrPaxio]

@@MrZrazies hours? you drill out the lock and unscrew it. they did it in a minute of actual trying. ure gonna need a power tool to quickly do the lugs anyway

[@highfighter219er5]

The issue is that these companies advertise these things as "impossible" to turn without the key, or are 100% pickproof. making people think that their stuff is completely safe.

[@samholdsworth420]

Keep in mind donut media is pushing eBay motors which is full of counterfeit parts!! keep that in mind people DO NOT BUY from eBay motors...

[@Redspider713]

I have a set of the Advance Wheel Locks and feel they are definitely worth the $135 price seeing that they stand up well to most attacks.

[@jai012]

As Profesional felon I appreciate your videos. Now I know exactly with what I need to equip myself for a better steal😊

[@mrhomely]

I have full confidence that the LPL could get that last one off in a few seconds. Yes on a car is slightly more difficult then his workbench but its not like its suddenly impossible! slightly, probably only adds like 1 or 2 seconds to his pick time

[@Cristian_D63]

I'd give it 30-60 seconds it looked like a disc detainer lock so he'll have to use his special pick that Bosnian Bill and him made

[@MotorcycleWrites]

@@Cristian_D63 are you guys talking about the special tool that LPL and Bosnian Bill made?

[@Cristian_D63]

@@MotorcycleWrites yes

[@Kevin-dt9xm]

exactly. thats likely just a mid-tier lock, which for him means a few seconds on a workbench, which turns into like half a minute if hes kneeling. theyre claiming that the lock being relatively near the ground means its automatically super difficult to pick

[@Kevin-dt9xm]

@@MotorcycleWrites ah man i love that special tool that bosnian bill and him made

[@PiggyDetector]

working at dealerships, we see thousands of mcguard wheel locks. the only issue is that the key itself like to break and strip out... a lot

[@ApocTheLegend]

That’s probably because every service garage likes to hit everything with an air impact and strips them all

[@angelgjr1999]

My McGuard key broke. It was a nightmare to get a replacement, I found it cheaper and faster to just hire a guy to just drill them off. Wheel locks are not worth it at all.

[@sireuchre]

McGuard's keys break too easily even without using an impact, and leave you needing to use the method any wheel thief will go directly to - the extractor they used to defeat the locks. Those are only a mild deterrent to the most casual wheel thief. The only real way to secure your wheels is to secure your whole car. which generally means it being inside, and actively observed outside of the time it is being driven.

[@brettm.6313]

@@angelgjr1999 a truck I bought came without the socket, called their customer support and they just had me send a picture of the pattern. They charged me less than $20 for a replacement

[@angelgjr1999]

@@brettm.6313 So what? You could’ve spent $20 on something else

[@alexwalker2582]

6:01 As someone who works at a Ford dealership, we sell a lot of these McGuard kits. One thing I can say for certain, an extractor will absolutely work if you can get it on straight, I take them off that way regularly (the key breaking off in the lock is very common with those things).

[@reynoldscs]

I agree completely. Tire shops and Auto / Diesel Techs know the ways around them way too often. That said, it isn't common knowledge in a parking lot/ side street for theft. Misplaced keys suck, that adds on unnecessary time/ labor at the shop.

[@BlazingKhioneus]

The infomercial for the cone-shaped one's "bolt extractor" is completely smooth on the inside! They show you it at 6:39

[@glennwebster1675]

My custom wheel stealing business has increased tenfold thanks to you guys and your video . Thanks man🖤

[@No-cc1fq]

Business is booming

[@randallfletcher497]

tbh, there is a part of me that is like "fuck you guys" for potentially teaching ppl to steal wheels

[@jvr6809]

This is lowkey a tutorial

[@GloomGaiGar]

If it took you this video to figure this out then based on your intelligence, your money won't be around for long lol

[@totljag1]

FBI

[@bob77576]

I've seen the 25 dollar ones work. came out to my car after a movie and 4 lug nuts were missing on the passenger front, but he last one was on. Definatly worth the 25 bucks for increasing the level of difficulty. it isnt impossible, just not as easy

[@mediocrefunkybeat]

Sometimes you just have to make it that bit harder than the car next to you.

[@TheExtremaz]

@@mediocrefunkybeat Tho the cars next to mine on this whole street maybee combine has the value of my rims XD

[@mediocrefunkybeat]

@@TheExtremaz This is why I drive a 17 year-old diesel Golf...

[@harshil102]

@@TheExtremaz doesn't literally need to be the car next to yours lol. They'll just drive a couple blocks and try again

[@maikeydii]

There's a version of this McGard type with a rotating outer sleeve (at least available as BMW original parts, would assume that you could find them also as 3rd party products). That could prevent also the hammer-on socket method from working. The problem is that there's the full socket set available (20 pcs) for about 170€ / $... :D

[@switchinlanes023]

I'm here because of LPL. Picked like a gentleman

[@dariensisko0]

# metoo

[@retirementpirate3665]

methree

[@thomasmiddlebrooke1012]

McGard is the industry standard for car wheel locks. I have seen them on every make there is. However, I routinely have to remove them when a customer loses the key socket, and when I do, an extractor set is what I default to.

[@Flipsh0t]

Aesthetically, I kinda dig the rimguard thing (there's zero chance I would ever pay more than $10-15 for them though).

[@JoeGator23]

They would be recognizable and entice thieves just because you installed them.

[@garrettroberts7339]

IMO they look like hot sun soaked garbage. They stick out like a tie dye shirt at a funeral. But hey, you do you fam.

[@dave161141]

I'm afraid the lock inside would seize up after one salty winter.

[@kanedaku]

Rimguard. I've paid more.

[@Outwardpd]

@@JoeGator23 This is completely untrue lol, thieves don't steal shit because it looks like you're challenging them. They are opportunistic. This is why super basic security steps are all that is needed to protect yourself from thieves, because they aren't in the business of going after wheels that have a lock on them, they are going to walk 5 more feet to the car with nothing on it.

[@feedingravens]

And what will the Lockpicking Lawyer say? "nothing on one, binding on three, click on four,..."

[@ElevatedEyes2023]

Lockpicking lawyer has spoken... go check out his newest video!

[@mikedejesus7064]

Working as a used car tech, I can say that the locks with the internal key design and the spinning sleeve on the outside that comes on some Dodge/Chrysler vehicles are a real pain in the ass. Usually it's an air chisel that does the trick, but if they're recessed it's pretty difficult without damaging the wheel.

[@gregblau8082]

We have a tool at work for those. It pulls the spinning part off with a slide hammer

[@adim00lah]

The thing about the rim guard, is that they had to damage all 4 rims to get them off, which essentially destroys the resale value.

[@MichelleSCarey]

Who has the time to be out there doing all of that, getting them off, and messing the rims up in the process?

[@notjacknicholson2225]

I used to work for an auto parts store. I remember we were constantly having calls from people looking for a replacement key socket for mcgard lock nuts. Not because they lost it but because they broke it. Mcgard are absolute garbage. A lot of mechanics end up welding something like a bolt head on the nut to be able to remove it, which also almost always damage the wheel. For some reason, even while being the worst system, it's also the most popular. It seems like you have to suffer once with mcgard before upgrading to something else. It's like some sort of unconscious prerequisite.

[@CB_On_The_Beat]

yep. just suffered big time. barely tightened it onto my wheels on the mustang and the key inside of the socket snapped into the locking nut. gonna beat a 19mm socket or maybe a tad bigger into it to do it when i need to get it off, my rims are already scuffed from gravel roads.

[@youtubasoarus]

Agreed! I removed mine before I broke them. Seems like the keyway will eventually be damaged (if you remvoe your wheels often). Couldn't torque them without it slipping, decided to play it safe and remove them before the lock broke and i'd be fucked. If the keyway was deeper maybe but not with the current design.

[@crimsonstang]

Yep, broke the key on my Mustang trying to get the wheels off one night. Had to wait 2 weeks for a replacement to come in for my specific pattern.

[@alexreisner6725]

@@CB_On_The_Beat Try an extractor set, that’s what I’ve always done, hammer on the extractor and impact that lock off

[@mm6705]

They aren't inherently bad. The reason they don't hold up is because mechanics in the industry use impact guns to tighten and loosen the mcguard locks.

[@skill28oy44]

Alternative video title: How to steal any protected wheels: step by step guide with examples and everything you should know (get rich quick)

[@37Kilo2]

Use one of each on all four wheels. If someone's going to steal your rims, make them work for it.

[@soffes]

Jerry: [literally anything] Jobe: Let's

[@tripsquared_greenworks]

I love watching Lock Picking Lawyer! Nothing stands a chance with his fingers.

[@emmanuelfernandez1259]

I love the combo of Jerry and Zach they mesh well and balance each other's energy

[@sanketmanna8653]

I just came from LPL's video......never seen him defeated by a challenge. Great job! It took him good 2:30 minutes. Although he mentioned prying would be better even before starting.

[@HariSeldon913]

I'm sure he would have gone a lot faster if he wasn't giving the play-by-play as he did it.

[@ryanzanow8221]

Guys!! The fact that you and the LPL got this on both channels in such a short time, is absolutely amazing! I follow both of you, so when I saw this come up for the LPL, I was floored! Both of your channels and absolutely awesome!

[@Baker3102]

The rimgard guys had the"professional" thief come in not to prove they're unbeatable, but to teach them how to steal as much of your hard earned money as possible

[@zubirhusein]

yep corporations are the true thieving professionals

[@TheBulletTrain]

I love that the 450 dollar one is only designed to work with the OEM wheels (per the video) and people wanting to spend good money on wheel locks are probably doing it for after market wheels (I know some stock wheels are worth a lot, but compared to the aftermarket not that often). Seems like a product solving a problem that doesn't really exist lol

[@cpsmonroe1]

I follow an Atlanta tow truck drivers channel, he does 1-2 vids a day towing new Hondas and Nissans back to the dealer after being left on blocks, sometimes just on the ground . I didn’t think people really stole stock rims, but for some models its an epidemic. Only locks he hasn’t seen defeated is Mcgard.

[@Dukes3677]

Just cross thread the lugs!

[@aaronthomas6155]

@@cpsmonroe1 McGard wheel locks are easy to get off. I've probably removed 100 or more sets over the last couple years. A chisel and hammer works. Extractors like used in this video work great. Harbor Freight sells a wheel lock removal kit that takes them off rather easily. The hardest I've seen to get off are actually the Mopar wheel locks. They have a collar around the outside that prevents extractors from getting ahold of the actual nut and that collar will simply spin.

[@mrarivv0007]

@@aaronthomas6155 that's smart. They better patent that or it'll be on the mcgard 2.0 lol

[@aaronthomas6155]

@@mrarivv0007 Chrysler has been using that wheel lock design for a while now. They don't actually manufacture the wheel locks themselves but I'm sure whoever does already has a patent on them.

[@truthsmiles]

FYI, those McGard keys will snap off inside the nuts under high torque. I’ve had it happen twice. If you choose to buy them, I’d recommend never letting anyone (like a tire shop) use an impact on them. Just take them off and replace with the factory nuts before service, and then carefully put them back on with a torque wrench yourself afterwards. Also, no way I’d use them on my truck which has a torque spec of 165 ft-lbs. They’re a “light vehicle only” type of lock, IMO

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

The point of a lot of these locks is to make your wheels harder to steal than someone elses, thus making your wheels a less appealing target.

[@juicyrope603]

It’s kinda funny that they’re trying to protect a wheel with a lock that’s more expensive than the wheel itself.

[@negeritopizza6103]

well if u have a porsche, those wheels can be like a grand and tires themselves another grand too

[@juicyrope603]

@@negeritopizza6103 of course but they’re testing on a Miata with like five dollar wheels.

[@AwesomeBlackDude]

What is even more emotional damage is the fact that drivers in California right now has a huge wheel robber peak. 😬

[@geemy9675]

@@AwesomeBlackDude maybe not a coincidence..

[@zamn2621]

theyre rpf1s theyre not cheap lmao

[@userhandler0tten351]

I never thought there’d be a show better than D-List, but wow. Tool party is my new favorite!

[@netgnostic1627]

I have a '65 Plymouth. In the early '60s, Chrysler products all had left-hand-thread studs on just the left side of the car. I swapped them for right-hand-thread on my car so I could use nice aftermarket nuts. But the coolest thing would be to put just 1 lefty stud on each hub, and put left-handed wheel locks on them. Any regular dude who is stealing my wheels will be trying to turn them the wrong way 😆. Unfortunately, nobody sells lefty wheel locks.

[@NotAnAudiophile]

My favourite past time is piecing together donut videos to become an expert car thief

[@TwinShards]

Imagine you guys send him that Lock and LPL just rack it open in 5 seconds. That would be very disappointing XD

[@SqueakyKnees]

It's going to happen, you know it

[@Masterkill45588]

He would. And he might see this, which is gonna cause him to have to try to pick it

[@bd604]

lockpicking lawyer video will be short enough for instagram and half the time he'll be talking about the challenge from Donut

[@jean-raeanderson1437]

Lmao rimguard must have forgot he used a chewed up pen to open a boot

[@mike325ci]

I figure he'll do it in 3 seconds. It's just a cam lock it seems...

[@jnerdsblog]

Love y'all and love LPL, really hoping this crossover happens!

[@seanj3667]

The Stuff Made Here one was great.

[@FOZ23]

Seriously. I like how this series is like @projectfarm and this episode was about locks and how they mentioned his channel. Next thing we know zach is gonna say "we're gonna test that"

[@oyen9476]

I just watched the LPL video just now donut media sent him the 450 locks. Somewhat i missed this video lol. I searched for it after watching LPL video

[@jabcmw1]

It happened today

[@cart6r]

Guess what? It happened and it’s great

[@salus5319]

Just saw the LPL video; that's the first lock in a while to have actual pick resistance.

[@giantpunda2911]

LPL sent me here. Was not disappointed.

[@Doooshty]

I always Tell my customers buying door locks that if somebody wants to get in they're going to get in. 90% of security is making your thing more difficult than the guy next door.

[@isthatrubble]

lol that's what my mum says. if they really want to get in it doesn't matter how strong our bolts are, they'll just break a window

[@digitalkoh]

Locks only keep honest people honest.

[@charlottemonroe7360]

Hello if you don’t mind we can get too know each other much better than this

[@barefootalien]

Interesting... this is actually a question I've answered dozens and dozens of times from customers ("What happens if I lose the key?") My answer: Get another one. There are actually only a few (often just one!) patterns in a given brand's wheel lock repertoire, so you can pretty easily just order them. Actually, one of my stores just kept a set of wheel keys around for the most common brands so the customers wouldn't have to worry about finding them, or about our guys rooting around in their cars. Now, this makes the _other_ question you asked even more interesting... "Do you need to spend $450 just to keep your wheels safe?" Well... yes. Kind of. Like any security device, wheel locks can't actually prevent a thief from stealing your wheels. Besides, most of us keep the key _in the car_ in case of emergency, right? The idea, rather, is just to slow them down, and act as a deterrent. It's not at all implausible that a well-organized car theft ring would just _have_ a full set of wheel lock keys for all common locks. But the more expensive the lock set, the less likely it'll be for them to have the keys for it, and the greater the deterrent. Hmm... though I suppose that deterrence goes up pretty much in line with the value of the wheels and thus the motivation to overcome the deterrent. Interesting indeed...

[@adamsbja]

Like how past a certain point all a high-value lock on a door does is tell you there's something behind it worth stealing.

[@nchia]

Funny I actually came here because of LockPickingLawyer! Nice job, guys.

[@orion7741]

to be fair, the thief in the infomercial was actually correct though. he said that there is no chance of somebody prying them off without damaging the wheel. and his case is proven because when you pried the thing off your wheel, you can see the gouges and scratches you left on the wheel.

[@urkryptoknight6793]

There is a thing called tape and rubber for that. Well put that on the prybar to keep it from marring the wheel.

[@cryptosnow3040]

@@urkryptoknight6793 if you watched the video you'd notice they used tape.

[@COMMANDandConquer199]

@@cryptosnow3040 Yeah, shitty cheap paper tape. A few layers of duct tape or even electrical tape would do.

[@jamesTBurke]

Yea but theives rarely care about minimal Damage that can be hidden via paint

[@wiltmarlonelao]

A few layers of electrical tape ought to prevent the wheel from getting scratched.

[@TheDubass]

And remember. It doesn't have to be unpickable. it just has to be harder than on the car next to it

[@neo_noodle]

Not when the car next to has $400 wheels vs your $4k wheels.

[@sneez9461]

@@neo_noodle yes what you're saying is really true, they wouldn't want a car with steel rims and wheel covers, they are looking to secure that bag easier

[@Ahmedkhaled-ev1jw]

Your name fits your comment

[@williamhaynes7089]

then they will just steal the whole car and work on it in their shop

[@CombatGod]

Ok... so not sure how comfortable I am telling people about this but here it goes... Get an oversized socket for the bolt, fill the socket with polymorph beads. Heat it up with a mini blowtorch or powerful lighter. When it's clear just stick the socket on the bolt. Give it 5 minutes to cool down, unscrew any security nut or bolt without trouble. This shit is amazing.... Heat it up again to remove the bolt.

[@shybzrk]

What about the ones with rotating cuffs? Fell like it wouldn't work for those

[@menjicar]

They forgot to do the wheel locks that come one the BMW, Audi , and even some Chryslers. That have a spinning ring on the outside of the lock. That would have been interesting to see.

[@DooMGo2It]

I really liked the design of Advanced Wheel Locks and was prepared to buy a full 20 lug set from them. Thanks to this video, I'll be skipping that purchase and saving money. Thanks guys! Awesome video.

[@djbis]

Getting LPL involved was the cherry on top for this video, great stuff, and can't wait to see lawyer's opinion!

[@pathokerboithek3163]

Came from LPL's channel, loved your video.

[@andyh8239]

You should partner with the Lock Picking Lawer on this one lol.

[@andyh8239]

Posted that before watching lol.

[@squidcaps4308]

My prediction with that last lock: 3 seconds of raking will open it.

[@nikoprather]

Or he can just put a magnet in a specific spot and then it just falls off

[@Kevin-dt9xm]

or a piece of a plastic bottle shoved in the right place

[@psedog]

If it's LPL, just walking up to it will make it fall off 😂

[@MRMechanicRC]

Ever since my buddy put a lock on his wheel I haven’t been able to steal them, thanks for showing me how! I mean… cool video dude… I should get those…

[@hend82]

Really nice to see that there is actually content between the commercials!

[@purfectsushi]

My mans recommending us the 2nd cheapest option so he can start his journey to steal more than 7mill$ worth of wheels

[@kodicasada7034]

The true thief’s are the ones selling those locks for $450

[@davidschmidt9291]

For those out there that work in a shop and have to deal with this weekly there is an attachment for air hammers that make this whole job so much easier. Its called the bolt breaker makes hammering on which ever lock remover you need so much easier and makes breaking locks off a 10-15 minute job.

[@tomcassidy6798]

those extractor sockets work amazing for 95% of locks we come across at Discount Tire, With the McGard style the socket usually leaves lock salvageable for re use if they ever find the key.

[@5Ci0N]

Your mom is called a bolt breaker

[@charlottemonroe7360]

Hello if you don’t mind we can get too know each other much better than this

[@connorbutler4085]

6:46 did anyone else notice the lug nut extractor clip when the guy lifted it up was smooth on the inside?

[@dong9224]

some of the McGuard ones have a floating collar on the outside that just spins if you hammer on a socket (very popular here in UK)

[@JoeWuhPuh]

A lot of OEM wheel lock nuts have the outside part spin freely, so you couldn’t do a lot of these methods, to the point if you bugger em, you have to weld a nut on

[@frankdogg75]

I said something similar. I want to see them remove these ones! BMW factory locks!

[@alexlirette6819]

@@frankdogg75 they have a tool for the bmw ones that makes it super easy.

[@aaronthomas6155]

nah....use a die grinder with a small rotary bur to cut the collar off. Done a few of them on Dodges....

[@HariSeldon913]

@@alexlirette6819 barely an inconvenience?

[@PWN_Nation]

Lockpicking Lawyer: "We've got a click on 1..." Also, man how I love these "how to" videos!

[@DiniduPerera]

"You don't need to outrun the bear. You only need to outrun the other people the bear is chasing" Feels like that applies here. If your wheels are hard enough to steal, a thief is probably just going to move on to someone nearby with less security.

[@ryanhansen3350]

Oem wheel locks from Mercedes were some of the best I have seen since the threads don’t stick out from the hub but rather the lugs thread directly to the hub and since they are so far recessed in the wheel it near impossible to get them out. BMW has a similar design as well

[@ranpatoamami7048]

So basically the wheels are held by bolts instead of nuts?

[@ryanhansen3350]

@@ranpatoamami7048 Yes, exactly! It makes it annoying to take the whee on and off but it certainly helps with wheel locks and if the thread ever get worn you just have to replace the lugs which is also a benefit to that style.

[@UncleDon226]

In my experience at a dealership taking trade-ins and customers that lost the lug nut keys, anything with a spinning collar on the outside of the lug nut is arguably impossible to remove without damaging the rim

[@thegravemindx]

I was wondering if they would do gorilla locks with the spinning collar, I have them on my car and feel like they’d be pretty difficult to remove

[@rmracing1]

I agree with you on the spinning collar locks.

[@UncleDon226]

@@thegravemindx do NOT lose the key. They are incredibly secure.

[@thegravemindx]

@@UncleDon226 if I do I have the code to reorder the key 👍🏻

[@UncleDon226]

@@thegravemindx Better get one now. Sometimes I call to get another key sent over and they say that model has been discontinued and the key is no longer available.

[@i9smurfs69]

As a wheel thief, I find this very helpful :)

[@dvhh]

We ll worr tireless.. uh tirelessly to catch you

[@southpineshooligan]

It's crazy to me to see this channel grow to nearly 7 million. I swear not that long ago it was 70k Good job guys you're killing it!

[@devinknapp4949]

When the wheel lock is worth more than the wheels and tires themselves…

[@aland7236]

Said by someone who sounds like they have never purchased a new OEM wheel and a tire that's worth a damn.

[@NoWacko]

@@aland7236 Right? It hurt my soul when they took to the oem wheels of the 850.

[@brandonroeder2461]

​@@aland7236 Well, that depends. Buy a car that practically everyone replaces the wheels on and you can find a set for cheap. Example: I've 4 OEM wheels that I bought for

[@fredfarkle7514]

@@brandonroeder2461 Probably stolen?

[@brandonroeder2461]

@@fredfarkle7514 Nah. The wheels and suspension are one of the first things people replace on these cars ( 15+ WRX ). I just got lucky and found someone near me that still had the oem parts for sale, and for cheap.

[@jonathanhorn8631]

Best thing to remember with wheel locks though… have them available when you get your car serviced. If you go in for a tire rotation and we can’t find your key, it’s not happening.

[@8bit580]

Which is why if I want to steal wheels, I'll just break into the car and get the key from the glove box or driver door pocket .

[@carsreloaded2013]

@@8bit580 so if a mechanic is working on your car he won’t have the key to the car as well? I’m sure a mechanic would check the door, glovebox or trunk for that key before giving up.

[@SOfilmable]

Man i love these 2 guys and this series. Always interesting l, funny and so entertaining !! Thx to ebay for sponsoring them

[@ariip]

lol. THEY ACT LIKE 10 YEAR OLDS. AMUSING MAYBE.

[@edtorgersen1454]

I work at a tire shop, and the mcgard wheel locks are a great idea, however I constantly run into the key either breaking, or being missing. A 12 point 19mm impact socket works every time to remove the locks. Just beat it on, and spin the lock off. Getting the lock out of the socket usually takes a vice, a punch, and a hammer. Still, a nice bit of info for any tire guys out there who run into this problem as often as I do.

[@bobbydelamar606]

The 3rd one was the best. Advanced Wheel Lock.

[@Phanman0789]

Yep, totally agree. Watched the Project Farm vid where PF did the same test using a bolt extractor with properly installed AWL locks and he could not remove the AWL locks. I'm happy more ppl are calling out Donut on their shady test. I came here to complain and am glad I'm not the first trying to help out the small AWL mom n pop shop clear their name. Donut needs to do better.

[@deirdrehollins3231]

@@Phanman0789 Also, with the Rimgard, once you place them on correctly, those 5 arms covering the lug nuts, sit down IN the lug nut holes. You gotta dig IN the hole to get them out (ruining the rims at this point). These guys had the arm out loosly ~ like it wasn't even screwed on properly or tightly at all. Go look at a Rimgard video, and see how deep those arms sit inside the holes. They're gonna be a problem too and take time to get off.

[@shifty1927]

0:13 he couldn't steal it cause he was turning it the wrong way🤣 lefty loosey

[@Kinon_4]

Loved this one! Tool party keeps getting better each episode!

[@subungulate]

Came here from LPL's challenge. This was an enjoyable video to watch. This was like one of LPL's no/low skill attacks.

[@NarcissisticAbuseHealing]

I came here after watching lockpicking lawyer's video. You guys are entertaining to watch.

[@breadcam4527]

LPL's response video will be 3 minutes long, 2.5minutes of it just thanking you and explaining the lock.

[@miguelhernandez6546]

11:37 did not expect that

[@napalmholocaust9093]

Biggest surprise so far is that you can get enough beef into vise grips without a cheater bar to get the lugs off at all.

[@TouristAcceptable]

*Who’s here after the Lock-picking Lawyer Video ?*

[@wrm3016]

That $450 lock looked like a joke! I had good locks on a set of mag wheels on an older car and the thief simply pulled the spindle nuts on the hub and took the whole thing! Lol. If they want it they will get it.

[@ol_smokey9370]

Now thats determination, I've never heard of that before lol

[@MajorAddiction]

HOLY

[@michellemire8462]

or steal the whole car

[@aaronthomas6155]

@@ol_smokey9370 There was a guy local to me where they wanted his wheels so bad, they actually took the time to remove his axles from his Tacoma....

[@musicmanbc9613]

Please keep this show going forever! Cannot believe how much I enjoy the tool reviews/hacks. I have bought tools based on your recommendations!

[@quagmire8733]

who‘s here after LPL ?

[@ejsdead-6363]

I love you guys and the shoutout to lpl! He got me into picking and you guys literally review half the tools i have, live it! Keep up the great work!!

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

The extractors work much better when attached to an impact gun in my experience 🤷‍♀️ P.s. probably the worst I’ve had to get off are similar to the second ones shown but with a spinny outer bastard ring on them.

[@EikottXD]

What were those spinny ones called?

[@Steven-gv1ke]

@@EikottXD Gorilla X2 wheel locks. They sell them on Amaz0n

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@EikottXD they were Vauxhall OEM I think. I just knocked the extractor on and spun the shitter with an impact gun til it melted it’s way off 🤷‍♀️