Doom - E2M8: Tower of Babel (Nightmare! 100% Secrets + Items)

[@petermiller5]

To kill the cyberdemon, make a lost soul charge at it until it dies.

[@UCm0i6w5lBlRthCtZEoj99tg]

protip

[@Raybayize]

To kill cyberdemon, apply lost soul till it is gone

[@Dexerinos]

EASY!

[@carpediemarts705]

Chapter 1: run in circles. Chapter 2: lost soul.

[@reloadpsi]

Shoot it until a lost soul eats it.

[@smiffwilm]

Never thought we'd see a Cyberdemon die from a Lost Soul eating it's ass out. Yet, here we are.

[@LarryBarry39]

Best way to phrase it

[@Mixa_Lv]

Cyber getting his ass literally eaten til he's dead, I wasn't expecting this

[@_TRB_]

🥵

[@zeuss194]

Hemorrhoid of hell

[@eduardodiaz9942]

Now Cyberdemons are a given, but back in the day that roar was enough to put you in fight-or-flight mode

[@TheFinalOutpost]

Even the lost souls can't resist those cyber glutes.

[@sephiran973]

"No, don't infight. You stupid things" I never thought I would see decino having so much care for a lost soul 🤣

[@liangseng7474]

The only other time he says that is when the Mancubus is infighting with other monsters in level 7 of Valiant, since Arch Viles will be released if the Mancubus gets killed (I think the level is called The Mancubian Candidate)

[@beaniewearingbastard3125]

He's like a preschool teacher.

[@jonbourgoin182]

The PlayStation port of DooM actually made the Cyberdemon scary again. Hearing his roar followed by those heavy, very bassy footsteps was nerve-wracking as you could hear them get louder and louder. Those sound alterations alone made him much more threatening and tense.

[@DuckAlertBeats]

Everything about that version made the pc version feel like Disneyland in comparison :)

[@paulkarpun3709]

Well at my childhood I was scared as hell when Bruiser Brothers appeared in E1M8 in PS-Port.

[@jothain]

They most certainly all weren't for good.

[@jonbourgoin182]

@@jothain it's all about personal taste and what you want your DooM to be like. Fast paced action with a metal soundtrack or horror shooter with ambient soundtrack.

[@jothain]

@@jonbourgoin182 I meant sound effects. Imp and grunt sounds are quite lame tbh and haven't heard anyone preferring them.

[@Mugroar]

Every upload gets us closer to episode IV and I can’t friggin wait!

[@davidhubbard8353]

I thought Thy Flesh Consumed would have prepared me adequately for No Rest For The Living on Nightmare. I was sorely mistaken. I'll say the worst levels were E4M2 and E4M6. Never again.

[@ademkapovskic8106]

episode 4 is definitely the stinkiest commercial doom wad, green marble vomit hell and wooden sensory deprivation complexes, at the very least plutonia has some good looking levels and tnt had a decent soundtrack

[@SaturnineXTS]

@@ademkapovskic8106 I always thought Episode 4 was pretty, and Plutonia had ugly textures. Growing to appreciate Plutonia more though

[@gackmcshite4724]

No joke. The original trilogy is the only trilogy.

[@SaturnineXTS]

@@gackmcshite4724 I can live with Episode 4 not being canon, as long as TNT and Plutonia aren't canon either (they just really don't make much sense after Doom 2 where Hell was supposed to be wrecked). Same for Doom 3, that game just doesn't fit into the continuity either

[@JangianTV]

Oh man, Pumpkin Boi dodging fast rockets like an absolute boss! 💪

[@tomcalnan7765]

“I need another Lost Soul” words you don’t hear very often.

[@BSzili]

The Shores of Hell is my favorite episode in Doom. Tom Hall's (for its time) realistic level design with Sandy Petersen's hellish makeover creates a very unique atmosphere.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I credit this episode to my love for corrupted techbases, or hell architecture imitating technology.

[@MountainLWolf]

As if Hell were an ocean of pain and suffering mwuahaha

[@azza5332]

Decino: "whatever you do, don't go into pain state Cyberdemon: "I'm about to do what's called a power move!"

[@fellow_doomer]

i love this level ngl. it was always satisfying to run around and shoot rockets and the cyberdemon. the lost soul strat is fun too ngl. because you are legit humiliating a giant demon that has a rocket arm

[@Sockren]

cyberden imo was way more impactful. it made the cyberdemon more of a regular fight than a scary bossfight enemy.

[@fellow_doomer]

@@Sockren i agree

[@AffenKloPutzer]

I'd really love to see decino's movement from the cyberdemon's POV

[@tornado100able]

@@AffenKloPutzer It must be frustrating missing lots of rockets against a green cockroach while being tickled by a flaming mosquito

[@davisdf3064]

@@tornado100able While having severe anger issues and a busted leg

[@TrekkieChannel]

I never realized that the Cyberdemon shoots the rockets of his crotch. I usually use the BFG (or in this map) rocket him while hiding as a coward. This method looks fun, I must try it

[@AlexeiVoronin]

Ha, I knew it! Pacifist (sort of) E2M8 - well done :) We may joke about this map nowadays, but it was pretty rough when playing the game for the first time. That is why Episode 2 was actually the last one I beat as a kid - that Cyberdemon really, really scared me. And he made horrible noises when playing the game with PC Speaker sounds.

[@hfc2x]

Makes sense, considering The Shores of Hell was originally episode 3, and Inferno was episode 2, so it explains why it's actually harder. Idk why they ended up changing them around.

[@AlexeiVoronin]

@@hfc2x The current thematic flow works better - starting with pure hi-tech facilities in E1, then corrupted facilities with Hellish elements in E2, and finally - pure Hell in E3.

[@WektorGH]

view of torn barons terrified me as a kid, even now its scary af...

[@kelleroid]

What's neat is that this texture gets a 3D recreation in Doom 2016 as well! For example in the Dead Simple recreation arena fight during Necropolis.

[@TheRogueWolf]

Little did Decino realize that the seemingly harmless Lost Soul he left alive would eventually rally the forces of Hell and lead them to victory against humankind.

[@AleksandarProkopec]

I love it how Decino calls the lost soul over as if it's some silly mutt.

[@ReclusePhayder]

Oh wow. I did NOT expect that. I was joking about this map during your E2M6 playthrough, but lo and behold, you made this much more entertaining that I could've ever imagined! NM100S Tyson style! Well done and thankyou for your hard work to keep us entertained Ducino! Say hi to Dogcino btw!

[@pannomic]

nice one, this is a good example of why Nightmare had their own cool strats and stuffs

[@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon]

decino that is some very tidy and well controlled close quarters rocket dodging there. I'm very impressed! The thought of trying this myself just scares me lol.

[@AmyStrikesBack]

Ngl i think a whole episode about doomguy climbing an Tower of babel would be Really cool as an megawad, maybe even with custom monsters like angels and shit

[@johnarmstrong5533]

That's a neat way to take advantage of Nightmare mechanics for a bit of fun. The fast Lost Souls never stop charging, and the turret Cyberdemon doesn't walk around much and is therefore slow to change targets & swat them away. Thus: the king of the demons slain by being nibbled away at by the lowest of his kind. Poetic.

[@Mixxr14]

That was amazing! Well done for finishing Episode 2, excited to watch you make Episode 3 look easy as well.

[@PersephoneStars]

Dude. That strat with the Lost Soul was hilarious. Great job at this episode Decino. I need to see what happens with Inferno. I know there's some situations that will be tricky.

[@kasrasharifan]

Decino, you are a true genius; in the first few seconds, I was baffled at how you would kill the cyber without any of the conventional methods, yet here we are, and I stand corrected and in awe. A-mazing!

[@clearspira]

The cool thing about Nightmare is that you can get the Baron of Hell and the Cacodemon to kill the Spider Mastermind too as they resurrect forever.

[@SyRose901]

Hey, that's possible even in UV! Although yeah, NM makes infighting so much easier and faster.

[@krzysztofwaleska]

Fun! And fresh! That is why i love watching your plays. Almost always something fresh!

[@John-sj4bc]

You are one of my biggest influences on my doom playing and have helped me expand my doom horizons and play new wads

[@lhfirex]

I'm surprised it took decino over 100 attempts to defeat the level!

[@PeranMe]

That was the weirdest combination of silly, cool and impressive. Thanks for showing off, it was very entertaining! :-)

[@OmegaTyrant]

I can't believe you beat the Cyberdemon on Nightmare, you truly are a Doom God.

[@stephensodergren2679]

This is pretty cool to see! Thanks for making this one interesting!!

[@eldandraken4850]

Tower of Babel was my favorite map as a kid, the cyberdemon is my favorite enemy of the whole doom series; quite strange that i did not remember about 90% of this episode though

[@uraldamasis6887]

"Oh, and don't go into your pain state either, because that throws me off." "I'll go into my double pain state then"

[@januszkomin3490]

it's punching cyberdemon's thicc ass time

[@nrabinov]

The complexity of this engine is truly astonishing. There's so many different ways to kill a cyber demon!

[@ryanfitzgerald2816]

never even thought of trying that map in that fashion. That'll be on my to-do list next time I play episode 2.

[@TheRealBDouble]

Watching you dodge those rockets at near point-blank range was awesome

[@senyaiv]

«Hey you, yeah, you» damn that's sweet. dat NM Lost Tyson was really genius by the way.

[@demogorgonzola]

Ha, knew it! Well done herding the souls :) It takes just below 300 charges on average for the soul to slay Cyberdemon btw., but they worked like charm :)

[@cortbelmont]

This is crazy! I was picturing your dodging like Neo on the Matrix

[@shukterhousejive]

Gonna predict before I watch that Decino is gonna work in the pacifist strat somehow, or at least some pistol bullying … lmao of course, I didn't even think about how much easier Nightmare makes this!

[@Flickeralex]

Local Pumpkin man literally too skilled to die dodges hundreds of rockets, making Lost Souls eat an entire bakery, while commenting his strategies like a boss

[@TheRealNormanBates]

2:25 CyberBigBoy: “Dammit, Decino! Stop being a pain in my _ow_ glutes!” I like to imagine Decino dancing like Gene Kelly as he’s sidestepping those rockets.

[@RevanKnight56]

So you basically did a UV Tyson Grandmaster run of this map, except on Nightmare! Altimamantoid would be very proud of you for sure!

[@azza5332]

I hope altimamantoid is doing well. He was the first doomer I got into before Decino!

[@RevanKnight56]

@@azza5332 yeah mine too! I used to watch his content all the time from 2011 to 2015. His content really helped me feel better as I was going through college.

[@TheRuinsfate]

Killing a cyberdemon with its own yappy chihuahua is a new one.

[@emppukoo739]

Never seen that before! Well done sir!

[@georgeheilman885]

Funny how the very second you grab the second, redundant supercharge, a Lost Soul ninja charges to break your stack. Still, kinda nice that there are two victors at the end.

[@lukebehrendsbro.]

This was a fun one in Nightmare Mode because seeing CyberDemon here for the 1st time ever with Lost Souls is fun to play around. Episode 2 is okay at best which I still like regardless. Episode 3 is I think everyone's favorite so this should be fun as well. Can't wait to see you do more of this next time. 😄

[@monomono9627]

8:29 the first time I've heard decino swear omg

[@vilwinde]

Came back to your channel after few years man big nostalgia when i saw this i should play doom 2 on my pc again for sure i remember those old school mods and addons man 🤣 Or i remember playing it with my friends at school i was like: bro new addon was released dude check it out yeh your content is still same and cool as hell man continue making theese 💪🏻💪🏻

[@XzMondayNightzX]

On this episode of HUMILIATING the CYBERDORK, local madman decino sends army of tiny skull boiz to bite butt. Episode 3 hype.

[@odstagent1070]

I feel bad for their two Decino has survived terribly difficult wads that dodging rockets at 2m from a Cyberdemon isn't a challenge anymore And the Cyber just got exposed on the hardest difficulty, poor soul

[@remiliascarlet4990]

Making Lost Souls attack a Cyberdemon for almost 6 minutes straight? Holy Hell!

[@topher9507]

I enjoy watching these so much. Keep it up.

[@spqninjapl]

At the start I was like "ok this boring level, it will be fast...". Mr. Decino You nailed it. Using Lost Souls was an awesome idea :D It was Not an boring one :D

[@aldiboronti]

Trust decino to turn a boring boss fight into pure gold. Great video!

[@HaBaHai]

Doom game is always live in my heart !

[@melm4251]

this was stupid af thank you decino awesome work 👍👍

[@Spectans1]

This was... refreshing, thx :)

[@scottl.1568]

I was really hoping this time you'd chainsaw the big boi

[@JoseBerrospi]

Yup, this certainly was a special episode. Well done, pumpkin man!

[@krunkle5136]

There's something poetic in defeating a Cyberdemon with its own legion of lost souls. The silly music with the oboe or whatever in the background it is just adds to the comedic moment.

[@scottl.1568]

It's nightmare so the CyberDemon has to respawn

[@iguana9173]

Man that was insane I still would’ve picked up the rocket launcher regardless.

[@januszkomin3490]

Holy shit, well done pumpkin man!

[@TheNihalngopi]

As a kid, I defeated this Cyberdemon with a regular shotgun and thought that was something badass. You could almost count this as a 'pacifist' run LMAO. Absolutely bonkers!

[@kelleroid]

Last month I rewatched your original Doom 1 UV-fast playthroughs so it's nice to see vindication for your attempt to do the same to the Cyber from that time! Although I will say finishing him off with a single "pew" was still pretty Epic(tm) after how silly was everything preceding it. I wonder if you regretted not picking up the launcher when that lost soul survived at the end...

[@thedoomgirl]

Only Decino has the guts to deal with cyberdemon in this insane manner 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Silverflower351]

Im loving all of these decino daily uploads

[@_TRB_]

On today's episode of "Bullying the Cyberdemon":

[@Escalipse]

PROTIP: To defeat the Cyberdemon, don't let it go to its pain state as that will throw you off.

[@jarvy3824]

Glad he showed us where all the secrets were, don't think we'd have figured that one out on our own tbh.

[@Olek54321]

Oh man, bullying Cyberdemon went to another level haha :D my first thought was You're going to kill him with a pistol, which is impossible of course :D

[@floverdevel]

Nice strategy 👏🏻

[@_vez]

This brings back old video memories

[@fatality9206]

Lost soul, literrally ate Cyberdemon ass.

[@bens1343]

That's there's good eatin'

[@Sharahdogmeat]

"don't go into your pain state!" *goes into it twice in a row and rockets you* jinxes never get old

[@NcWcN1]

Now that's dedication to one's craft!

[@BilltheFifth]

You make juking projectiles look so easy my man.

[@johnmozhui5630]

Nice video

[@YigaClanMember123]

One a minute it's tower of babel I pronounce it differently thank you decino for helping me pronounce it properly

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

We've come a long way from reaching this level for the first time in 1993, hearing that roar, and being terrified because we'd encountered every enemy listed in the manual by that point so _what the hell was that._

[@maltardraco9555]

Protip: To defeat the Cyberdemon, shoot rocket at it until it explodes. Episode 1 had a harder boss btw.

[@makhauser42]

That was cool! Longing for the E3M8 "gimmick"

[@ItsHyomoto]

Fucking lol. When you started I was like, "Ah, because the higher aggression makes them attack more often!" Awesome way to spice up what would've been a basic video :D

[@NerfPlayeR135]

Hey, my comment on the last video was technically right - this _is_ a Tyson run.

[@megasphere308]

Hehe, I knew you would 😋 well done !

[@calebkorwex9343]

The Shores of Hell is actually a damn good episode IMO. Sure it's got a couple of clunkers (Refinery and Fortress of Mystery. Plus Command Center is a little weak) but a few of the other maps outshine Knee Deep in the Dead for me. Deimos Lab and Halls of the Damned in particular manage to have plenty of interesting variety to them, with a great feeling of progression without being too wonky and disjointed. That sense of corrupted tech-base seemed to work better than the other ends of the spectrum (plain techbase of KDitD or the attempt at full-on hellscape of Inferno). It's got that unsettling vibe alongside a greater feeling of exploration. Sure KDitD is more consistently decent and Inferno is more consistently wonky (with occasional flashes of brilliance) but Shores of Hell managed to be generally fairly good with a good helping of genius in parts.

[@PepperDoom]

There goes the best Doom episode of all time (In the bottom of my heart at least) ! (,:

[@quote128]

Tower of Babel is my favorite level of episode 2

[@SaturnineXTS]

Nice, from what I heard this map was beaten pacifist only relatively recently. Turns out it's actually easier to do on Nightmare because the lost souls charge much more often, so you don't actually have to immobilize the cyberdemon

[@decino]

It's not easier as this method requires you to shoot the Cyberdemon to ensure it doesn't infight the Lost Souls. That's against the pacifist ruleset.

[@SaturnineXTS]

@@decino I thought that he would retarget anyway, since he did so with 3 of the lost souls anyway, so I assumed there was just some number of hits/damage he would take before he retargeted. Your shooting him with the pistol didn't stop him from retargeting eventually, so I assumed it didn't really matter

[@decino]

It does matter, shooting him resets the infighting threshold. Without shooting he would retaliate against Lost Souls immediately.

[@SaturnineXTS]

@@decino I see, so you could have made a single lost soul last long enough to kill the cyberdemon if you shot at it more

[@decino]

No, the threshold only resets when the threshold is zero, so eventually it will retaliate no matter how often you shoot him.

[@RevolverRez]

Imagine how frustrated the Cyberdemon must be with decino casually dodging everything.

[@BalimaarTheBassFish]

TIL that cybers fire rockets from between their legs :O I've never dared to be that close to the massive bastards because I need a bit more reaction time to dodge projectiles.

[@maddragon3457]

2:28 Get down Mr President!

[@rankoinazuma6788]

Oh boy, when I was a kid this big boy, this cyberdemon used to scare me, for real! Can't believe it's over, my fav episode but hehe what a way to finish it Also 2:29 begone skull boi! this moment is literally hilarious to me

[@pehhii]

Yaaaaaaaaay he did the funny lost soul strat. 10/10

[@JangianTV]

Iconic! Also, how comes there's only 1 kill? Don't lost souls count in Doom 1?

[@EPICALLL0]

It depends on your settings and the source port.

[@mondragon9282]

Originally, no they did not.

[@januszkomin3490]

@@mondragon9282 actually, originally lost souls did count towards the kill count, but that changed with version 1.666, when DOOM II was released

[@mondragon9282]

@JanuszKomin I was unaware of that! I didn't pay attention to kill counts until Ultimate Doom was released, so 1. 666 was where I really knew what was going on.

[@ravagerslb]

Lost souls don't count towards the kill total, except on GZdoom.

[@Jurarigo]

Looking around for stranded Lost souls that can tick that juicy Cyberdemon buttocks sounds like fishing for cockroaches in a dump. This almost-pacifist run is amazing.