Doom Eternal Next-Gen Upgrade: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S - All Modes Tested

John Linneman and Rich Leadbetter take a look at Doom Eternal's next-gen patch - we've already checked out the PC game and came away impressed, so how does everything scale onto the PS5 and Xbox Series consoles? We've got three machines and eight modes in total to test - let's do it.
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[@mayman4255]

"It's very hard to find any performance dips" Devs really went far and beyond on this game; kudos to them.

[@teddyholiday8038]

iD tech is extremely well optimized engine. Game has always run buttery smooth on even low end hardware on PC. We need more games with this engine.

[@Ryzen-gh1en]

@@teddyholiday8038 vulkan doesn't like older gpu specially card with bellow 4gb vram or only 4gb vram but it scale amazingly well older cpu and idtech is fucking amazing, i wonder how this engine will scale in big open world games specially in ubisoft game lol like watch dogs legion which is one of the worse dx12 port even low level api doesn't save the game

[@deathtrooper2048]

Cause the devs just used a lower res for their shit engine, the cod engine is much better

[@natalieschall8933]

@@deathtrooper2048 CODs engine is average at best. Seems like it can’t handle compressed files. Otherwise Warzone would be way smaller.

[@deathtrooper2048]

@@natalieschall8933 that's because the mw 2019 engine is shit, cold war's engine is better

[@kwedl]

I'm just glad that we are finally at the point where having multiple settings for performance, visuals, RT is becoming a standard on console.

[@teddyholiday8038]

I especially hope that 40hz full fidelity mode (as found in Rift Apart) becomes a standard option too. Way better than 30fps and still keep full resolution and full ray tracing.

[@TheGlintJaw]

@@teddyholiday8038 yeah, 40fps is soo much better. It's nothing crazy but it looks so much better than 30fps.

[@mrpiratefox4497]

@@TheGlintJaw yeah the bad thing is that it would only work on 120hz TVs, and well... They are quite expensive comapred to regular 4k60hz tv

[@TheGlintJaw]

@Top Noodle true true.

[@TheGlintJaw]

@@mrpiratefox4497 yeah.

[@mustafasiddique515]

This is how games needs to be optimized! Other developers should take notes.

[@PantherCrane]

Especially Naught Dog and Sony Santa Monica

[@mustafasiddique515]

@Alex Pare we haven’t seen these studios properly for next gen yet but knowing then they will do great but this game actually shows me next gen power. 1800p 120 FPS should be standard not 1080p. Also this game looks demanding with how fast it is. Every studio should optimize their games like Doom eternal. I don’t think they have too many excuses any more

[@LogicInWords]

@@mustafasiddique515 it’s not about excuses, it’s about the game itself: just because one game can achieve something doesn’t mean the other can. It all depends on the game honestly.

[@mustafasiddique515]

@@LogicInWords that makes sense but doom eternal is definitely a demanding game. The camera moves so fast and the game is gorgeous! I know there’s more realistic looking games which would be more demanding but they should try and optimize the best they can. Unfortunately I don’t think everyone is doing that. I mean look this runs at native 4K at 60 FPS. While other games are running at dynamic 4K. Studios should try just a little bit harder

[@LogicInWords]

@@mustafasiddique515 I completely agree with you 100%. Also the engine for doom is one of the best as well. The game already ran well to me but with this next gen update it basically put it on steroids lol

[@rodylermglez]

High frame rates on consoles is kinda insane, and I love it!

[@weedman5942]

@Mr.Buttons I agree 100%. I really wish they put a DP so you can use dirt cheap 120/144 monitors.

[@IAMjessiebristol]

@Mr.Buttons Or at least a bi-directional DisplayPort to HDMI 2.1 adapter. They already sell one, but it only works one way (DisplayPort -> HDMI 2.1). It'd be nice if they made one that was either bi-directional or an HDMI 2.1 -> DisplayPort 1.4.

[@brewski535]

@Mr.Buttons huh, most 120/144hz monitors have hdmi 2.0 input. 120hz works fine up to 1440p over hdmi 2.0.

[@pennywisethedancingclown7139]

@Mr.Buttons HDMi 2.1 will take over display port I think... The 3000 series Nvidia and the new AMD cards already have HDMi 2.1 ... As are most current modern higher end monitors.

[@brewski535]

@Mr.Buttons normally freesync works just fine over hdmi but the range is often more limited than the display port range. Sometimes if a monitor doesn't support 1440p + 120hz + VRR at the same time over HDMI you have to reduce the resolution to 1080p to get both 120hz and VRR.

[@DanXcel]

I think we can all agree that 2 years ago we never would’ve thought hardware ray tracing to be possible on next gen consoles. The fact that we are getting hardware ray tracing at 60fps speaks to what is possible with a truly sophisticated engine like id Tech. They are wizards over there!!

[@mtdubdachamp6917]

Man I never knew what ray tracing was til last year lol. I'm a console gamer and have been since i was a kid. But I'm loving it on my PS5 it really makes a difference.

[@andresalfonso4407]

If you wanna get impressed go look ratchet and clank running at 60 FPS with raytracing on Ps5

[@Daniel189HLL]

And the capability of a game box costing 350-450 quid

[@MrLuizsaluti]

I would like to see a game make use of global illumination on consoles.

[@Daniel189HLL]

@@MrLuizsaluti metro exodus?

[@MEXUS.]

The optimization is just incredible!

[@WeebleFox]

the id tech engine is gonna be really useful for Microsoft this gen

[@metallicafan416]

I'm hoping the engine is used for quake

[@raresmacovei8382]

Maybe. They already have Coalition as masters of Unreal 4 and Turn 10/Playground as masters of the Forza engine which could be adapted for so many things. We'll see.

[@peternash7104]

@@raresmacovei8382 You can use all tech. So Unreal 5 has the really cool tech where it hides the details of textures not seen. Id tech is amazing at dynamic scaling. Both can worth in tandem. Include this support to Creation Engine 2 so you can have mod support and you can a beastly engine. Playground's issue is that they are technically not using a new engine and they need to update their engine to have RT support outside of Vista. Id tech can help w/ that since they are a master w/ RT with minimal hit in performance. Then we got 343, where honestly their new engine doesn't support RT (never declared) and still haven't shown footage of the game running on XSX when it's months before release after a year delay...I think they need the most help.

[@HaloGaming08]

@@peternash7104 yea originally before the delay Ray tracing was coming post launch now its a mystery

[@andyward8430]

Not only the engine itself but the people behind the engine will probably be able to offer quite a bit of technical help to the other studios when needed.

[@Beer-Baron]

This really might be the last time we see id tech on a PlayStation console; the id tech engine itself is really one of the hugest assets Xbox gained from the Bethesda acquisition..

[@iOSGaming14]

I strongly believe it won’t be seeing as they have outsourced the engine in the past but I maybe wrong. I know the IW engine made by infinity ward and trayarch is a modified version on ID Tech 3 and has been used even today just with upgrades so who knows, PlayStation still has access to the unreal engine which is just as good if not better than ID Tech 7.

[@sean7332]

@@iOSGaming14 currently I'd seems much better for optimization for 60fps fps games

[@Beer-Baron]

@@iOSGaming14 true, it could always be outsourced, but that decision is now solely Xbox’s as they have ownership; I think it’s very possible thought that another id tech game will be on PS5; as for UE5, there’s already at least 4 confirmed Unreal engine 5 exclusive games coming for Series X, and Zero for PS5; Aside from days gone (which is now, “Gone”) I don’t think any other PS studios even used Unreal engine, but yeah there’s always that

[@iOSGaming14]

@@Beer-Baron whether titles that use the unreal engine comes to the PlayStation was not what I was saying, not trying to turn this into a fanboy argument but I said PlayStation still has access to it, which I believe is a better engine. If those ID tech titles don’t come to my PS5 I always have my gaming laptop and gaming pc which both are faster than the series x admitted I payed premium for the laptop and parts to build my pc but it’s something I enjoy. People can argue what they want but owning a decent PC/Gaming Laptop, PS5 and the Nintendo switch is all you need. No use for Xbox this gen, same as the last. That last good console that the Xbox has made was the 360 regardless of the red ring of death. Game pass accounts for more users in PC than the Xbox and the sales between both series x and ps5 are in the Sony’s favour again more consoles sell more software sold the more money is made. Take Microsoft’s lead in the pc space and have Xbox its own thing and it would be third place constantly! They got all that money from dominating in the software space before Xbox was a thing nothing to brag about just using daddy’s money as they say. Playing monopoly by buying studios will back fire on them tremendously.

[@cynthiaandoh9575]

@@iOSGaming14 You just made a whole bunch of fanboy points to discredit Xbox. "Acquisition good, but bad since Microsoft use dADdY mOneY" Like, who cares? Or saying dumb stuff like them buying studios or a monopoly will "backfire tremendously". You're cappin hard.

[@kboi1170]

18:32 Yo, he wasn't bothering anyone. Why'd you have to go and ruin his day like that?

[@Anandroid]

Lmao man he was just having a typical la Dee da Wednesday

[@swayamkrishnan8273]

Series s pushing for 1440p 60 and 1080p 120….damn that defied my expectations

[@unrelatedpopcornfire9823]

Thats ehat it was markered for and now its surprising.

[@Sam-K]

Well, its GPU trade blows with GTX980, a six year old flagship.

[@pixelbitg9386]

When used properly it's a damn food console

[@alex1212456]

Series s matching PS4 pro performance isn’t really that impressive though

[@kizzgizz]

@@alex1212456 I mean, I doubt the ps4 pro could do 120fps, visually I see what you mean but performance hell naw

[@Pitcher-T]

How do you guys manage to produce so many top quality 15+ min videos? Excellent work as always, very informative

[@darthkermit4617]

Id tech and doom is silky smooth

[@nrabbi93]

Been waiting for this analysis video since the update came out last week.

[@XBnPC]

Man, DF is falling off. The content they put between that time was garbage and other individuals that have a few hundred subs are starting to these comparisons Better. Idk what's going to happen to these people's channel. Even IGN is putting out 4k comp vids now. Bad news for DF I guess. Their comparison videos are the only reason I visit the channel. For the record, they have done some great work in the past, but again they're starting to get outclassed on the videos I care about by a Lot of other channels. Maybe it's just tedious for them, but they have a whole crew and this game has RAY TRACING.... you'd think they'd be All Over the comparison video day/minute ONE.

[@Metaris]

So glad to see more games coming out w 120fps modes.

[@Tyreker]

Now I just need a tv that can do 120fps

[@julien2231]

120fps sucks. Id rarher have great visuals at 60fps

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

@@julien2231 why? It’s Doom Eternal. There is a world of difference between 60 and 120 fps in a game like this.

[@julien2231]

@@shmekelfreckles8157 i never cared for more than 60fps. Even when i was playinh exclusively on pc

[@DoobSac]

@@julien2231 This game benefits a lot from 120 fps. The fast pace action is perfect for it. You're flying around so much I don't think the resolution is as important as it would be in a slower paced game.

[@resonatingraptorid6519]

I can't wait to look at all the lovely, thoughtful, unbiased comments for this video 😁

[@CPhelps1247]

Their opinions are strong, but nothing is stronger than family❤️

[@briankeogh335]

I finally upgraded to a gaming monitor from my old 1080p tv for this game alone

[@Majorblack]

N64 is better

[@teddyholiday8038]

Facts don’t care about feelings. Series X wins this. Higher resolution and better performance in all three modes. Loading is the same. Clear win for Xbox. To date, PS5 has won more than XsX but XsX is gaining some momentum recently.

[@Joaquincastellan]

DF are just (insert company i don't like here) shills.

[@JonathanTacoman]

Conker sequel with the ID tech engine, make it happen Microsoft

[@shockvalue5086]

This. Especially if there can be stylised elements

[@FEWGEE1]

What a great next-gen update, and the fact that it's free is amazing. Other studios should take note!!

[@krzysztof6591]

What is most amazing in this game, that you will ignore almost all graphical features in real game, but watching it in slo mo, brings out all the wonderfull things that ID put in there.

[@OrbitalShell]

I can't look at this video without crying, as I play DOOM eternal on the switch. I'm grateful I have it though.

[@xtechtips152]

Ah the 720p 24 fps experience. Pure cinematic.

[@pennywisethedancingclown7139]

@@xtechtips152 I think DOOM on switch goes down to like 540p at times

[@OrbitalShell]

@@xtechtips152 Hey! At least I can play it. It's coming to a point where the switch is going to be incredibly lacking in more modern titles. Then Nintendo trolled us with an OLED model that is literally just a an OLED screen on the old hardware. Bruh, Nintendo hates me.

[@yab3146]

@@OrbitalShell we really do need an actual new switch, the current switch hardware is on par with low end smartphones which is not great for games

[@BlueisNotaWarmColour]

@@OrbitalShell Nintendo gotta Nintendo

[@dougkaplan1449]

Looking forward to what Microsoft does with this amazing idtech engine in the future. QUAKE!!!!

[@hannibalb8276]

yes!

[@luxorcephrenSE23]

@@hannibalb8276 yes indeed!!!

[@razial5745]

Unreal tournament

[@granthefato340]

@@razial5745 if only

[@bltzcstrnx]

@@razial5745 even if it gets released, Unreal Tournament will most likely use Unreal Engine 5 or later.

[@ivanfabric]

So glad with capability of the new gen consoles! RT, 4K, VRR, 120 Hz, SSD. It's amazing!

[@Cosmycal]

Well, Xbox One S already had 4K, VRR and 120Hz output capability.

[@MisterReen]

@@Cosmycal just a capability is not enough. SX and Ps5 might even have 8K capabilities but we won’t see this in large games.

[@maizeman90]

@@MisterReen I doubt we ever see 8k on either system. Zero need for it.

[@Cosmycal]

@@MisterReen Of course not, I wasn't meaning that.

[@shyff2188]

They’re hitting everything they advertised in the first year, the one thing left is 8k & it will probably be achievable at 30 fps in the latest years of the generation

[@rapsod1911]

Can you dissect Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare for PS1 game engine? How they make such good lighting effect on 2D pre-rendered background?

[@Alexander5R]

I think you can pitch video ideas if you are on Patron, this would probably make an excellent DF Retro video.

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

Awesome video! Really hope Doom Eternal gets a complete edition that has both DLC's on the disc!

[@Blobbybobbyboy]

120fps on this game is amazing, especially on the hard difficulties when the gameplay is so fast. I feel like I've been pulled out of a vortex when a combat encounter ends.

[@-1nterruption-960]

Yes. This is what we've been waiting for

[@miikasuominen3845]

Damn, I'm in awe with the engine and the level of optimization of this game. Every developer, take note! Fantastic stuff and I'll take my hat off to id.

[@alpha6games751]

Insomniacs been doing legit work like this as well. Lots of options great optimization.

[@spenny2cents]

Yeah buddy I’m sure game developers are reading your comment and taking these words to heart!

[@miikasuominen3845]

@@spenny2cents That's their own loss, if they don't. Buddy. 😂🤣😂

[@andyward8430]

I played through the first couple of levels on series x and really liked the raytracing mode.

[@oooo1110]

Already played the game on One S year ago i dont know if it's worth playing ogain on Series X

[@maugod6972]

@@oooo1110 it is lol in One S it looks and runs like shit conpared to Series X

[@jamezxh]

@@maugod6972 no shit

[@sleeplessindefatigable6385]

Yeah, I think the thing with RT is that it makes far more difference to have it at all, than to have high quality rt over lower spec rt. Even having really low quality RT still looks way better than not having RT.

[@danielszenyan7286]

@@sleeplessindefatigable6385 khm, RTX is not needed at all. I vote for high texture+1440P+60frames+100% view distance on console as standard, without any shit specials like shadow mapping+film grain+raytracing shit+motion blur what cuts on the horse power to the half. The consoles have weak APU, 2year and it will be a big horse shit for raytracing...

[@16-BitKev]

I recently went through it again on ps5 and honestly it looks pretty damn good. It runs close to perfect, there isn't really any slow down that the naked eye can notice. And on a quick note, the game actually can load faster than what they said here, usually if you reload a checkpoint it's literally like 2 seconds. Pretty cool stuff here

[@ShaktiChaturvedi]

Another great video. Series S user here, I finished the base game in both the One S back compat (the one with lower quality textures and visibly softer image) and the new upgraded version (which visually looks a lot better than the One S version, with better textures and a sharper image). And yes on a 1080p display (like the one I have) the softness is not as noticeable as mentioned in the video . The 120fps mode is a total blast and must be experienced to be believed. I really hope ID are rebooting Quake as rumored. Quake was one of the first games I ever played on a PC (in mighty 640x480) and I trust ID to knock it out of the park gameplay and performance wise !

[@Ryzen-gh1en]

i wish Microsoft specially let other dev use this engine which are exclusive to pc and xbox like the medium instead of unreal engine which has lots of frame pacing issue, imagine if the medium was based on IDTECH 7 i doubt it would dips bellow 30 even mid range gpu like rtx 2060

[@argenys]

Not sure why most DF video keep talking about the XSS in the context of a 4K screen. Like most users know this is a 1080p/1440p machine for those screens not 4K.

[@jamezxh]

Great unbiased comment 👍 everyone just seems to piss in the last Gen version . I thought the One S done a great job at running it

[@jamezxh]

@@argenys true the SS on a 1440p screen is a very good purchase .

[@kamilciura7953]

@@argenys because 4K panels are all that is currently made in TV space and most consoles are hooked up to a TV, not monitor. I still have 1080p TV and no intention of replacing it any time soon, but when time comes eventually, it is not as simple as walking in to a store and getting another 1080p one... So yeah, even though we all know what XSS is, how games look on 4K screens still matters to people. I honestly hoped that we'll see more of checkerboarding on the machine but it seems that it is just too much work to implement this in games and devs are happy with pared back resolution without any upscaler. XSS is potentially able to use the latest FidelityFX Super Resolution, maybe we'll see some of that at least in 1st party titles.

[@LiamLlamaEVEC]

Ooh, I can't wait to watch this!!!

[@kasejito]

Great video as always! Is there a chance you guys are making a video on A Plague Tale new update/enhancements?

[@mopar426power]

Just played this on the Series X. All I can say is wow, this upgrade is incredible.

[@eyeofthetiger7]

I still haven't played this yet, but now I want to get this on my series x

[@nicekix3038]

@@eyeofthetiger7 it’s on game pass

[@sam-man9064]

14:32 this is 120hz's biggest weakness, if you use the ice bomb and flame belch you will see some very hard dips to framerates especially when you close in on the demons.

[@Nonx47]

Meh, VRR takes care of that for me pretty well

[@bearpuns5910]

The ice bombs are my only performance complaint about Eternal. I could be between 120 and 144 and then BOOM - down to 60.

[@AlphaDwg]

120 down to 109 isn't really that big a dip but on the series x/s side there is support for VRR so it isn't even worth discussing if you are like me and have a VRR capable set. All these dips are just academic. playing at 120 on series x in that same section i didn't notice anything.

[@sam-man9064]

@@Nonx47 it's a shame it isn't supported on ps5

[@chriswright8074]

@@AlphaDwg you mean free sync

[@Starless85]

Playing it again on raytracing mode, I noticed one hitch one time when mantling up onto a ledge, that’s it, and I’m almost finished with the main campaign. A Fucking joy to play.

[@Chasm9]

I'm level 95, all achievements.. 300 hours on PC, 70 hours on PS5 and I still keep coming back to master levels on Ultra nightmare

[@kutdownongaming1935]

the save issue was a problem, but i just replayed the campaign on ps5 which was fun to do all over. ray tracing is a added bonus, the game does looks way better with it on, seeing fire balls stream or your shots flow across the game floor is great to see, adds more

[@andrewtt03]

Thanks for the deep dive on the consoles. Great video guys.

[@jtjones4727]

The IdTech engine has always been impressive too me. The fact that the Series S can run the game at 120 fps shows the high level of optimization.

[@ssteinerjr]

@O N What?

[@ssteinerjr]

@O N I would look at a spec sheet, because you are delusional if you think the series S is more powerful than a ps5.

[@_Crystall]

@O N i like xbox but are you dumb? ps5 performs waaaay better

[@nicowank634]

​@@ssteinerjrwhat are you talking about?

[@ssteinerjr]

@@nicowank634I was replying to someone else saying the Series S was more powerful than a PS5. It seems they deleted their comment.

[@Unprotected1232]

DOOM IS ETERNAL!

[@spacejunk8978]

Good God I'd LOVE a remaster of the first Rage

[@AvalancheOfFire]

Me too! Supremely underrated game that I thoroughly enjoyed, and happily bought for full price on release.

[@spacejunk8978]

@@AvalancheOfFire I didn't even get more than like 5 hours in for whatever dumb reason but I remember loving it.

[@griffgames9538]

Locked 60fps + RT is a fine mode for a single-player experience. 120hz + reduced RT is a perk, but it's not dramatically upticking the player's input response in single-player to a point that's worth compromising. In multiplayer? Certainly 120hz mode on new gen console brings (best case) advantages to competitive MP, if net connection quality is a non-issue.

[@selnor1983]

Playing for the first time on Series X. And wow is this game amazing. Visuals are incredible. And I hope all games aim for 60fps. Visuals look so much better at 60fps. Even the supposed 30fps quality modes in other games look nowhere near as good in motion as games in 60fps. After all we don't play games in screenshots. We play the moving. And ID deserve huge praise. They are masters of technical achievments. It looks unreal in motion. RT mode is hiw I'm playing it.

[@thanksbetotap]

Will be nice to see more and more games taking advantage of VRS!

[@emodadon1131]

Funny it took an Xbox first party studio to implement it. It's almost like other 3rd parties go out of thier way not to take advantage of xbox tools

[@thanksbetotap]

@@emodadon1131 I mean, other games like Dirt 5 have used Tier 1 VRS. Tier 2 takes more effort, so it makes sense more time was needed.

[@paulszki]

@@emodadon1131 I dare say if Microsoft hadn't bought Bethesda, ID-Software would still have used VRS Tier 2. It's part of DirectX 12 which is also used on PC. So any developer who decides to use VRS 2 on PC will just enable it on Xbox as well.

[@imt558delux]

But also VRS brings worse IQ despite higher resolution which is visible in XSX version

[@TerraWare]

@@imt558delux The whole point of it is to reduce resolution in areas you don't notice. For example when you're playing Doom your eyes are glued to the area around the gun, the middle of the screen. Yeah if you stop playing and zoom in you may notice the lower resolution in some of the areas but when you're playing your peripheral vision doesn't notice it. It's definitely something that works really well with a shooter or racing game but not so much with a strategy game for example where the game is much more slower paced and you're looking allover the screen at different things. If it's programed on object where the player wont be looking depending on what's going on you won't know it's on unless you pause to zoom in to look for it. In my opinion anyway.

[@pvtcmyers87]

Freaking awesome review guys again!!

[@vintechtalk1094]

High quality video. Thank you so much. I have a ps5 but own this game on pc and I think that's where I will be playing it.

[@spgreacts4507]

It DOESN'T take over 8 seconds to load on Xbox Series consoles, I've done it repeatedly and it's always around 5 seconds... Reference IGN's video with MVG breaking it down.

[@criticalthinking7525]

Exactly what i said. 8 second my xbox series x doesnt take 8 seconds either. Strate bs🤦‍♂️

[@TotalGAMIX]

Really!???

[@vildhjarta8760]

Same here

[@Y0URGRANDMA]

They really should start implementing mouse and keyboard support for fps games on consoles now, given the awful gpu market and 120hz benefits now on consoles I think it would start to become much more popular thing.

[@blackdubz]

Eternal doesn't offer that on Series X or PS5?

[@yuggsriddle340]

Great video as always Superb work

[@user-ik8vy1rg8f]

You guys are consummate professionals. One of my favorite shows online.

[@derschakal718]

I bought a Series S. Playing all non X|S optimized games off an external HDD. Still fast. Internal SSD is reserved for X|S optimized games. Very fast.

[@notkjjk]

The Series S is absolutely insane given its price. That combined with Game Pass is without a doubt the best value in gaming in my book.

[@ThibautMahringer]

I do the same on my Series X. I kept some One / One X games on the SSD but if I get more Series X optimized games I'll move them on the HDD. I feel like playing One / One X games on an external HDD on Series X is faster than playing on internal HDD on a One X.

[@franciscofarias6385]

@@notkjjk IMO if play on a 1080 TV and don't care about having lots of game installed at the same time the Series S is a wonder. It's definitely good enough for most people.

[@lord-fishv7355]

@@franciscofarias6385 The series S one of the worst things to buy why deleting games to download others gives me panic attacks and infuses my blood with anger especially Modern warfar 2019 if you delete it you might as well sell your soul to a demon if your friends ask you if you want to play it again.

[@DanIsJustDan]

@@lord-fishv7355 Recommend getting an external HDD or SSD, then moving games back/forth between internal NVME SSD. External storage devices have a large capacity at a cheap price, and transfers speeds for these consoles are very quick. No need to delete any games and waste precious bandwidth (if you have data caps).

[@bboosss1065]

this engine is a true masterpiece...every game studio needs to learn

[@robertcook9195]

Agree this patch is amazing, have been mainly using 120 mode on PS5 and it’s buttery smooth, thanks ID!

[@agmk135]

There was also a recent COD Modern Warfare / Warzone patch for the PS5 that enabled 120 FPS. Not sure if you guys knew / want to cover that one. I’d love to see some technical analysis compared to PC as I have a high end gaming PC.

[@kodemasterx]

Hopefully, a QUAKE single player is next in their catalog... A reboot campaign against the STROGG or better yet a LOVECRAFTIAN universe.

[@Daveyengland]

Who needs next-gen? Looks astonishing on PS4 Pro.

[@JustMikeBro]

Doom isn’t a demanding game and I do love next gen

[@babyknight]

I’m love playing all these games on my ps5 it’s worth it and big upgrade from my ps4 😂😂🔥

[@Crashed131963]

Load time reductions .

[@Daveyengland]

@@Crashed131963 - I have an SSD in my PS4 Pro and it runs like a dream.

[@Crashed131963]

@@Daveyengland That is a awesome upgrade on the PS4. Pro .

[@GeekdomCentral]

Amazing work as always, guys! Although I am getting slightly triggered at all of the enemies that can be glory killed, but you’re just shooting them instead...

[@leetallett4284]

It's really exciting when you think of what's coming and what is going to be possible with gaming in the next few years. Gaming in general has improved so, so quickly in recent times. Great times lay ahead.

[@felixisme]

For sure!

[@noahhumphrey2293]

I want to see the performance metrics while someone that’s really good at the game is playing bc there can be a TON of particle/alpha effects when the game is played at a high level

[@DoobSac]

This guy playing is pretty bad lol. He still hasn't discovered the dash mechanic.

[@jackwiedemann]

Well, this person will probably use a PC

[@BetaBreaking]

Was just playing through the Doom-Hunter boss fight on Series X, fucking phenomenal. I was playing the Raytracing mode and it did make my Xbox hot but hot damn, it's making this Nightmare run look beautiful. I think it's boosting my performance (in-game) lmao.

[@nanoua27]

@Digital Foundry : a DF Retro episode on Primal / Ghosthunter for the PS2 any chances ? They are technical marvel for PS2 games.

[@peremoyaserra2749]

I'm really into game engine and rendering programming and i'd be * thrilled* if Digital Foundry could discuss with some techincal people at ID how does the RT implementation basically work on their Custered Forward Renderer!

[@mikem2253]

Great showing all around. Surprised there is no mention of the Dualsense features and the FOV slider performance levels. Edit: Switch POV to FOV.

[@brewski535]

*FOV

[@Komodo_Dragon]

I've just completed the game on ps5 with RT on. Oh boy, this game looks and plays sick! I highly recommend getting it.

[@HaloGaming08]

Absolutely if you love first person shooters this I think is an absolute must play

[@Lancelotxxx]

Just order mine for 15 bucks. Feel good man !

[@HaloGaming08]

@@Lancelotxxx nice!

[@ThePokestopPapi]

Man the RT on the 5 is just absolutely gorgeous

[@latech7671]

9:23 Funny that even Digital Foundry can't adjust to Doom now being a Microsoft IP

[@pixeljauntvr7774]

Because Doom Eternal is a 3rd party game. The game released before Microsoft purchased them.

[@latech7671]

@@pixeljauntvr7774 yes, but the implementation of this next-gen Version is now First-Party (including VRS)

[@spenny2cents]

@@latech7671 wow you fanboys never cease to amaze me 😂

[@latech7671]

@@spenny2cents how is this being a fanboy. If anything this shows that VRR-Implementation is to be expected and nothing special because when a game/update is developed by a first-party it should use all the tech possible on this system. Btw: I own a PS4 and PC so I am in both camps. And yes, I like Microsofts approche better right now but I also like Sony's exclusives better right now. Both could change any day

[@MrElliot1210]

Again, very nice video. I'm going to play DOOM Eternal on my Nintendo Switch in handheld with drifty Joy-Cons.

[@telboy007]

Not really played that many games with ray tracing, but the moment I looked into one of the windows in this game and saw the horde of monsters closing in behind me was quite an eye opener. Still died a horrible death mind you. :D

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Nice

[@mattj2692]

Interesting, IGN's breakdown had the series x load times less then half a second more then PS5's not double. In my personal use it has also been super quick, def not 8 seconds as they experienced. I wonder if it's because I started up a new game and they are using an existing save file for their tests.

[@mickryu]

I noticed this too. Mine boots up cold at around 5 sec and faster with Quick Resume.

[@gtavshortclips4740]

Yeah it loads faster for me to and i play new game

[@jotawayhijo]

Also, 5 seconds loading times.

[@RaheemMcdermott]

5 seconds for me also

[@RetroniOS]

No. It's because DF love PS5.

[@rob_i208]

9:20 "Might be first 3rd party game to use VRS on Series hardware" While I'd expect idSoftware would have supported this if Bethesda hadn't bought them out, they are technically no longer a 3rd party to Xbox consoles.

[@jameswtlocs]

It was made before the buyout so it's still a third party game

[@kieran.grant_]

I get that this is a very extreme circumstance, so I'm not complaining. But I found some *major* frame dips on PS5 when freezing a group of enemies, throwing grenades at them, and firing a gun like the Unmakyr. However, that was an actual gameplay attempt and not me actively hunting for dips.

[@afreet777]

Great review as usual but that Caco @17:09 is something else....

[@kieran.grant_]

XD

[@Starfey]

5:56 what is that flickering in the reflection on the bottom? (XSX)

[@Madblaster6]

13:30 is what we all came for.

[@anasshahid224]

ID did an absolutely amazing job with ID Tech 7, playing on the PS5, Doom Eternal looks gorgeous 🙌

[@itsd0nk]

Is the missing anisotropic filtering turned back up at all on balanced mode? It’s a little nuts for it to be so low on the “main” mode I feel like

[@ronniewhitedx]

This and the re engine are two of the most optimized engines I've ever had the pleasure of being able to play on

[@justinchin0]

Good video! Guess i will be starting over on PS5 which is fine because I was stuck and getting killed where I was anyway, this game is hard! -_-

[@rg975]

Damn, these next gen consoles are beasts. The lack of anisotropic filtering does bother me though, light performance hit for substantial image quality increase, I wonder why it’s not there?

[@cmdr101z8]

Memory bottleneck I’ve heard

[@soul_kee5er458]

Great job once again guys with the new patch. Real shame we did not get any anisotropic filtering on the new consoles though. I wonder what the reason behind this is because the team at ID did so much work and what?! they could not handle texture filtering even on a new hardware. Thought those days were gone with the last gen... PS. Besides that fact ID totally nailed it !

[@BIaziken2]

It's honestly kind of insane we're getting locked 120fps games less than a year after the launch of the new consoles. Good stuff.

[@PantherCrane]

Watch in 2-3 years when both consoles are firing on all cylinders, it won’t be the case for one of them!

[@ashinastyle]

@@PantherCrane ? How do you mean, they’ll stop making games run at 120fps you mean?

[@PantherCrane]

@@ashinastyle yeah

[@ashinastyle]

@@PantherCrane How so, asking sincerely?

[@cmdr101z8]

@@PantherCrane You talking about the Series S? Yeah, I don’t think it’ll be running games at 120fps in a few years

[@Imperator23Lp]

Nice to see 120Hz and RT on consoles but I don‘t know what the problem with AF is. As far as I know AF has no performance impact, it just depends on memory bandwidth and the Next-Gen consoles have more than enough of it. Don‘t know whats wrong with AF on consoles…

[@MisterReen]

Back during the first months with PS4 I remember that there was an issue with AF as well. This was then fixed with help by naughty dog.

[@cmdr101z8]

I’ve heard it’s a memory constraint

[@jjdizz1l]

Excellent. Time to strap in.

[@VC777]

Awesome analysis!

[@oktusprime3637]

Digital Foundry: The primary ammunitions manufacturer for console wars since 2013!

[@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127]

I’m played this on the OG Xbox one, now I have the Series X. I think I’ll play that DLC now…… 🔥🤘🔥

[@matjakobs8612]

Id tech 7 is a beast. Can't wait to see their first next gen only game.

[@daveleebond]

FTFY. 'Can't wait to see their first next-gen only Microsoft ecosystem game.'

[@MotoguyX5]

Really looking forward to picking up a next gen console once they are readily available at msrp, this looks great! For now enjoying my SSD upgraded One X and Switch

[@VickNumber7]

Just insane that Microsoft will now had ID tech to work with moving forward. Definitely going to translate into better looking games.

[@Hello-ig1px]

that makes no sense. you think the PS5 is holding back the Series X more than the Xbox One S|X & Xbox Series S are holding back the Series X?

[@MrFallen1ne]

@@Hello-ig1px Thats exactly why every big upcoming game for playstation is cross gen aka on ps4 and ps4 pro also. So by your same logic ps5 is being held back too right? Besides what's that have to do with xbox having ID as an in house studio to work on first party titles for series s/x in days to come? Try to use commonsense.

[@kaarthuisplus]

@@MrFallen1ne of course the ps5 is being held back by cross gen.

[@LRon-ef7ni]

It’s funny, cuz I never thought this looked blurry at all. Even on last gen.

[@mrrglass3407]

It depends on the size of the TV you own. Larger TVS show up the differences

[@LRon-ef7ni]

@@mrrglass3407 I got a 65” Sony

[@yaboirichard591]

Cause you ain’t used to high quality graphics. I said the same thing till I switched to pc gaming

[@LRon-ef7ni]

@@yaboirichard591 good. I’ll be sticking with console gaming then.

[@mrrglass3407]

@@yaboirichard591 Another ridiculous comment

[@MMaRsu]

I heard theres some issues in the latest Doom Eternal patch with black screen errors on PC? Having to restart the entire machine? I havent had any issues but just wondering if its widespread

[@balsabozovic4510]

Nah but i had fps bug where ive had to restart game

[@jeuriarmandomartinezurena7077]

Can’t wait to see a new Doom game specific for Series/PS5 and PC.

[@SoSickRick]

The 120FPS being almost locked is amazing was playing on Series X the other evening

[@cosmic_gate476]

Glad you got to experience that bro, always wanted to see console players get the same experience. This gen is the first gen where they're on parity with PC and it's great for everyone

[@littlegloom]

@@cosmic_gate476 not quite true. i remember back when the Xbox 360 launched, and no game on pc could come close to gears of war. of course that all turned around a few years later

[@cosmic_gate476]

@@littlegloom eh, maybe. I'm sure the ps2 was ahead of pc when it released as well. But the last 10 years have painted a different story. A story of consoles so weak they drag the entire industry down with them, so even if it's for a couple years I'm glad there is parity.

[@tonyungfat]

@@cosmic_gate476 If you hate consoles so much why are you here in the comment section?

[@bad_max88-primeps58]

120 fps on ps5 feels sooo amazing to play

[@uchinster8]

Enjoy you close to 1080p graphics 😂😂😂.

[@daniloperina9043]

@@uchinster8 fanboy 🤮🤮🤮

[@MikeAruba69]

The 120fps was so smooth, I can no longer go back to play this at 60fps anymore!

[@uchinster8]

@H N who gives a shit. I only can focus on one or two games. So I don't give a fuck about exclusive. Apparently stuck on call of duty warzone and assassin's creed Valhalla. If we had all the PlayStation exclusives, it wouldn't matter because I can only play 2 games. Takes me a whole year to finish games like assassin's creed

[@bad_max88-primeps58]

@@MikeAruba69 so true me too XD

[@prisonmykee2595]

Can you test the recent elder scrolls online ps5 and series console upgrades soon? It has both a fidelity and performance mode.

[@DrGamelove]

You suspect most series S’s are hooked up to 1080p sets? I suspect you are right about that. Aside from people who just don’t have 4K, I’ve seen a lot of gamers who might not necessarily run out and buy new consoles, including retro purists, buy or consider the S to play older titles and Game Pass. It’s a great price with a great form factor and GP is a great service... they may never overtake Sony again, but I think it was a smart SKU.

[@mononoke721]

Id software easily has some of the best programmers and engineers in the industry. Astonishing work from a pure technical standpoint, and then on top of that - Doom Eternal is one of the best shooters in over a decade. You guys are on fire! Just can't decide whether I wanna replay it with ray-tracing on or at 120fps - literally spoilt for choice. Maybe I'll just play it twice on both modes - IT'S THAT GOOD!

[@k12gamer72]

Great looking game! I know it sells well in USA, but how well does it sell in other countries like Japan?

[@otakumusprime7745]

First person shooters don't usually sell great in Japan. From what I read Doom 16, a year after release, sold 900K in Europe, 700k in the US, and only 40K in Japan (though I suppose to be fair that was before the Switch version).

[@negikogok]

@@otakumusprime7745 40k isn't too bad of a sales number for Japan tho. FPS as a genre has definitely seen a popularity rise in Japan because of the Battle Royale trend, and COD has high school tournaments there, but a lot of other franchises we're familiar with are still relatively niche in Japan.

[@k12gamer72]

@@otakumusprime7745 With so many great 1st person games coming out...maybe they'll start taking off in Japan.

[@yqafree]

Seems like these new consoles, especially the higher tier ones are simply impressive fidelity and performance. Especially for their price points. When will we see console exclusives that stress them?

[@prima_ballerina]

ID Tech is such a great engine. Great visuals and awesome perfomance. It's a pity that it's so rarely used by third party developers. Afaik Machine Games is the only studio despite ID themselves (?) ...

[@darkcult99]

Thank you for separating PC from consoles in these videos 👍

[@pcgameboy8407]

I wanted a more deeper look of PC vs consoles, but only looked at visuals. Not fps and such.

[@rex41e]

Okay, this is what we've been waiting for. Let's gooo!

[@Niko-xz5lk]

I'm so impressed with Id Software, blows my mind to think what they'll do next with next gen only consoles

[@D..S..]

After you download the Cheat Engine program, how do you actually use it to enable the console commands?