Doom Eternal Switch Tech Review: The Most Ambitious Port Yet... But Is It The Best?

[@foxhound6364]

This is what "we'll release it when it's ready." actually looks like.

[@davetheimpaler204]

If Panic Button ported Cyberpunk to Switch, it would definitely run better than PS4/XB1 launch.

[@HueyTheDoctor]

@@davetheimpaler204 That's an impossible scenario though. I just don't think you could run Night City on Switch in portable mode. It's not feasible.

[@thejjdm1126]

@@HueyTheDoctor Wiiu and switch docked could run at 480p that might be ambitious though

[@glorious720p_2]

@@thejjdm1126 Wii U’s CPU is way too weak to handle even doom eternal

[@sean8102]

@@Gamerman2077 Well I fell a bit better with them being owned by Microsoft now. Gives them much deeper pockets for the budget which means the possibility to spend more time polishing the game. We'll see though. Talking about Elder Scrolls obviously.

[@YetiCoolBrother]

This is definitely a game where when they announced it I was like “How”

[@ChrisBa303]

And i was why? Whats even the point if the präsentation cant keep up with the gameplay, in an game thats all about gameplay.

[@michaelmayers3622]

Same

[@Del2394-g3z]

By cutting out a lot of details, I wouldn't force myself to play it on a Switch.

[@Segtend0]

Panic Button. Their ports seems to be technically impressive, given the limitations of the Switch.

[@alexsilva28]

That was my reaction when 2016 was ported to Switch. I couldn't believe it

[@clay_reznor647]

The thing about D00M is that it needs to run on everything.

[@rocstarang5747]

Yes lol

[@9a3eedi]

With the lack of open sourcing of engines, and Bethesda trying to lock people into their ecosystem, looks like this won't happen anymore

[@allancandaza]

@@9a3eedi nope zenimax own all tools and technologies of id software so no luck at all

[@morbuskobold4233]

In 20 Years we are running this on a Toaster. Take my word...

[@QuintessentialWalrus]

It's a series tradition at this point!

[@andrewleeseberg]

Man I grew up playing Battlefront 2 on my PSP and that was incredible, being able to squeze this much game onto a portable system is just amazing

[@Beastmode650]

I loved that game. I originally wasn't gonna buy it but It came with my white Darth Vader psp.

[@maxmaxon2955]

It’s amazing! I had a ds. During the ds’s life span most AAA titles straight up just got a different game that is comparable to today’s flash games.

[@khodahh]

Battlefront was one of my best memories on psp... Remember we played multiplayer with only one UMD we switched during loading screen ! Good old days...

[@strangegnosis]

I can't even begin to explain the hype I felt back then when that was announced for the psp😂

[@Bombastic_daioh]

It's a home console lol

[@micahbrown9868]

Without Digital Foundry to explain everything, I think a lot of these "impossible Switch ports" like Doom Eternal, The Witcher 3, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, etc. would be underappreciated because people wouldn't understand how technologically amazing they are. So thanks DF once again for giving a great analysis on these impressive ports 👍

[@nknicolas]

Absolutely. That's why it was so important to have this analysis. Other KZbin channel like VG tech, don't explain nothing, appart giving some framerate values.

[@NCozy]

Umm Doom and the Witcher 3 I'd agree with but Ori definitely isn't on the same level even though it's an amazing game in its own right

[@micahbrown9868]

@@NCozy Doom and the Witcher 3 are definitely the more impressive ones but if you watch DF's anaylsis on the Switch version of Ori it's actually really impressive how they got it to run so well because the game is more demanding than it looks.

[@Firespray421]

Yes!! It amazes me how many people don’t stop and consider that these are PORTABLE versions of original console experiences. On previous generations of handhelds these games would’ve been completely reworked into radically different experiences.

[@RetroView]

So ps4 port of cyberpunk 2077 a miracle, because they ported it from pc with 3090, right?

[@noodlezeep5159]

„Intelligent Cuts“ ... * rips demon apart with a chainsaw *

[@LaughterCraft]

I caught that too haha

[@DarkReturns1]

Hahahaha 🤣

[@alexsilva28]

@Soviet Concrete You wrote a douchy comment online... You are so intelligent and special

[@theninjamaster67]

@Soviet Concrete No need to be a knob end either but here you are.

[@theninjamaster67]

@Soviet Concrete Not really all they said was "I caught that too haha" you're the one over here with statements like "low iq clowns" like you're somehow better than people who didn't get the joke.

[@wssayer]

I always find these Switch conversation analysis's the most interesting.

[@Zeegoku1007]

You've Got that right 😂

[@Ryan-rz3nb]

Same, cause it’s like interesting to see if the ports good lol. Cause most other games on Xbox and ps, will probably be good enough.

[@wssayer]

@@Ryan-rz3nb Exactly!

[@ShanGamer1981]

Doing a lot with a little 👍

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Wtf is "analysis's" ??

[@MicMacIRL]

I turned on airplane mode on the switch and that lets you bypass the Bethesda login. I hate that it requires it. Super annoying

[@GenerationZ313]

I'm sure that login screen may be a problem if and when the servers for Nintendo Switch Online service are discontinued or if Bethesda decides to get rid of Bethesda accounts for whatever reason. Hopefully this is something that gets patched much like they did with the ports of Doom (1993) which initially required you to login.

[@kingofrockz]

@@GenerationZ313 honestly its not a big deal. Just turning on airplane mode fixes it. And if switch servers go down I dont see any reason to not keep airplane mode on when it helps battery life etc. You can leave the Bluetooth turned on too.

[@M8Military]

@@GenerationZ313 Bethesda accounts will have to be merged with Microsoft accounts by 2023 probably due to their acquisition. Just like how everyone's minecraft accounts are being merged as we speak

[@mastaw]

@@M8Military I don't think Sony will allow a Microsoft login to be mandatory... I think

[@8BitFun]

Fyi, most things requiring online service do not connect via Nintendo’s paid service. Only if explicitly mentioned is it required (usually for first-party games only).

[@GamerMGO]

Truly an impressive port. My mind was blown when I saw that near locked 30 fps and the destructable demons system being intact.

[@pw9681]

Hands down. IDTech one of the best engines implemented in video industry

[@ConorDoesItAll]

IdTech are an amazing dev team, it was a really good buy from Microsoft, I'm sure it will pay dividens.

[@DenGuleBalje]

IdTech is legendary. ID used to make the older IdTech versions open source, not anymore now that Carmack is chained up in Mark Zuckerberg's dungeon. Just imagine if they still did make the older engines open source. Imagine the mods.

[@reav3rtm]

The best corridor shooter engine for sure. Not sure how it handles big open detailed areas. Dishonored 2 gives some preview of that but even there, map is not that huge.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Agreed. I remember when they were using MEGA TEXTURES but decided to cut them because they were such a grain on performance. IDTech 6 and 7 have been brilliant.

[@DenGuleBalje]

@@reav3rtm That's the key to keeping a game running well on a console with a weak CPU, you have to avoid big open areas with a ton of foliage and NPCs. Doom 2016 and Eternal run extremely well on pretty much any modern PC because of this. It's also part of the reason ARK runs horribly on the Switch even though the original looks worse than both the newer Doom games. Look at how Ubisoft games tend to HAMMER the CPU, they're usually open world and has open areas with foliage/architecture + a bunch of NPCs. It's a recipe for "cinematic" sub 30 fps framerates.

[@BLitzRunner77]

Ark wasn't ready for this unexpected and devastating low blow

[@Bigdaddymittens]

To be fair, the developers were probably given a really strict deadline and budget. The devs porting ark over actually wanted to improve the switch version, but studio wildcard literally ignored their requests.

[@dazza2350]

@@Bigdaddymittens ok

[@fi7959]

@@Bigdaddymittens Ark is an unoptimized mess to begin with, it was never going to be a good port.

[@themassmauler]

Ark isn’t even good enough to play on my Xbox one x

[@paradoxzee6834]

@@Bigdaddymittens it was time, the devs wanted to optimise it more but the publisher pretty much told them to finished it up

[@TheDesecrator]

What I love is that they keep updating it. It's at version 1.12 now, and looking and playing better than ever, from what I can tell.

[@Sithedd]

I don't know what kind of demonic pact panic button made to get this running but I'm glad they did.

[@johnbishop2536]

What form of power is this - Vergil

[@nikkoa.3639]

Damn panic button and Id... Y'all didn't need to flex that hard

[@boshygamer32]

What? A ps3 looking game? Sure what a huge achievement

[@tomoakley760]

@@boshygamer32 you're missing the point mate

[@boshygamer32]

@@tomoakley760 what? Its is portable 😩 like any mid range laptop but worse get out of here switch fanboy

[@fretbeast]

@@boshygamer32 mid range laptops are not only more expensive, but 9/10 times will not run with the same consistency. And theres no way to hold your laptop like a portable game console. Switch was the greatest investment into entertainment ive made

[@boshygamer32]

@@fretbeast wow you surely are a new comer to nintendo poor soul

[@undisclosedsteve6361]

I beat Doom 2016 on my Switch on an airplane, it was amazing. I'm gonna beat this on Switch too when I get around to it

[@nddugas]

I just finished it all myself. Both games are so, so good and play great on Switch.

[@theairaccumulator7144]

Your headphones suddenly disconnect and your switch starts yelling rip and tear in an airport

[@WutipongWongsakuldej]

The art assets still look amazing after shaving down many effects and stuffs. Kudos to the art team as well.

[@Soup-man]

Did anyone else notice at 2:48 how he said "while making intelligent cuts" as he saws a demon in half. Huh neat.

[@Kratoseum]

he did that twice, at 9:44 as well, definitely on purpose.

[@Jimmy-ph8xn]

Looks a little blurry, but still works. Another masterpiece by Panic Button. These guys never cease to impress.

[@glorious720p_2]

I’ve played this port for about 70 hours, I play it on nightmare mode. So glad this port exists

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Nice!! I only got 30 so far but ill catch up. Nightmare only here too. Some battlemode but not as much. Been having a hard time getting matches

[@gabbytoyreview7359]

Guys, hows the overall performance in portable mode? I only play handheld. This will be my february game. So many hours in mh rise demo, this maybe my last game in a while when mh rise drops. Doom eternal looks super fun.

[@glorious720p_2]

@@gabbytoyreview7359 locked 30 frames during gameplay.

[@Dev-nr4dw]

@@gabbytoyreview7359 Locked at 30fps 99% of the time.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

@@gabbytoyreview7359 I've never even noticed any issues at all tbh. John said it was mostly 30 with some frame pacing spikes but I never even noticed that. Also I've played it on nightmare and did every level (including master levels) and still had zero issues

[@maxhoughtonmusic]

When you showed doom 2016 on switch, you can immediately tell it retained the post-processing effects, I think this is the most glaring difference in Eternal's port besides the resolution

[@Loundsify]

Yeah DE looks like a PS2 game on Switch compared to DooM on switch. But like John said the performance is mainly rock solid, which is definitely needed.

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

For those of us who don't like post processing effects, this is good news. Shame we can't get a version of Doom and Wolfenstein 2 that makes the same decision in favor of resolution and framerate.

[@franciscor390]

@@Loundsify You don't need to like the port, or the fact that it is quite a graphical downgrade, but comparing this to anything from the ps2 era visually, it will result in people not taking you seriously or your arguments. Even if you go back to the PS3/X360 era you will see how simple those games are in polygon geometry and texture complexity.

[@malo6748]

@@franciscor390 true, whenever I see someone saying like : oh this looks like ps2" I instantly ignore them and think lf them as idiots because it sounds like they r just bashing on the game because they think they made an original joke no one ever heard before. And bashing a mobile game/port for graphics is so 2010.

[@carloss7655]

i definitely think they made the right decision with eternal here. It's far more focused on gameplay than doom 2016 was.

[@GLKHD]

Nothing better than a comfy DF video on a cold winter Saturday evening with a some boomer juice and a bowl of arterie blocking foods. Ah

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Wtf is Boomer juice and why are you talking like an idiot?

[@shawklan27]

@@nickmotsarsky4382 dunno why everyone's obsessed with calling everything a boomer nowadays 🙄

[@Happy8008]

I mainly play on PC, but I have my Switch for Portablity. And when I played doom eternal i couldn't have been more impressed. I was simply having just as much fun as i was on PC!

[@eddiehendrix2013]

Been replaying it on the Switch Lite, I love this port so much.

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

ew

[@Tommo_]

I've been waiting for this too. Always impressed me what the switch has on offer, defo the best handheld we've had so far.

[@diddykong7354]

@@hunterjayfilm lmao just use geforce now.

[@diddykong7354]

@@hunterjayfilm Do you even know how or what Geforce now is?

[@mspeter97]

@@hunterjayfilm Vita had Borderland 2 and most importantly Killzone Mercenary, the latter being really impressive considering the specs

[@TheLightningYu]

@@diddykong7354 Yeah, that's why i find your Comparison so dumb. I want to play on a handheld on the go without being pinned down to a online service, and not be bound on a shity online-only streaming bs. For people who like that stuff all power to you, but stop this non-sense suggestions...

[@Tommo_]

@@diddykong7354 geforce now is cool but I've found the main issue with it is it sort of defeats the purpose of a handheld. You need a strong and stable internet connection for geforce now, which I can only get in my house, at that point I might as well just be sat infront of my high end PC. That might change when 5G becomes more commonplace but for now, it doesn't work for me, and I'm sure it doesn't work for most people for the same reasons.

[@danielrock04]

This is just an impossible work done by panic button, really, I cannot believe it's running on a mobile chip, I just wanted Nintendo to release a pro switch so we can see what this port can achieve...

[@RyanWoo]

Cyberpunk 2077 on the Switch Pro perhaps? 😅

[@kingbradley8058]

@@RyanWoo nah. It doesn't even run on pc

[@the8thark]

Look up people running the game on an overclocked Switch to see what performance they get.

[@davetheimpaler204]

@@RyanWoo I wouldn't put it past Panic Button to get it running well on regular Switch.

[@RyanWoo]

@@kingbradley8058 my laptop couldn’t even go pass the beginning of the game after character creation screen, the game just crashed. They seriously need to optimise the game. Maybe panic button could help them 😂

[@mjc0961]

Yeah the Bethesda account thing is crap. Especially when you're in the middle of playing and the game pauses to tell you that you got logged out because Bethesda's servers are crap. I don't care, I don't even want to be logged in in the first place, stop pausing my game.

[@kingofrockz]

Turning on airplane mode before turning on the game skips it.

[@marky3609]

Oh man I'm playing Hitman 2 on PS4 and it does that exact same shit like seriously fuck you IO Interactive I don't want to log into your shit ass servers to play a SINGLE PLAYER GAME.

[@Some-guy-on-the-internet]

It also happens on PC. If you look at some speedruns of the game, namely from Zero Master, the game will sometimes automatically pause in the middle of a speedrun to tell you that the game has lost its connection with Bethesda's servers. Of course, the game doesn't know if you're speedrunning it, but it's still really fucking annoying and can be a big time loss.

[@Kira-qc4qi]

John on the phone with Alex: "Hey man I'm making this video, how do you say "Wolfenstein" again?"

[@mrburns366]

I HATE it.. lol I know that's supposed to be the correct way.. and living in Germany Alex should know... but it's so fucking CRINGE.. lol

[@SPG8989]

It is wrong actually

[@Soup-man]

Considering that I can only run the game at 30-40 FPS on my shitty laptop anyway. I guess that this is okay for me.

[@CherryPixelBun]

honestly even with my PC that can handle the game on high I had a lovely time revisiting the game with this port and I didnt realize just how smart the optimizations were until this video put it up against Doom 2016 and Wolfenstein 2

[@Clay3613]

You get better detail though.

[@dnegel9546]

My laptop gets 15-23fps @ 480p

[@Soup-man]

@@dnegel9546 Did you try putting it at low settings? It was like that before for me, but then I scaled everything down as low as possible to get the results that I said earlier.

[@dnegel9546]

@@Soup-man low everything or off and res at 480p. 😟umm.. Im poor. Old laptop.

[@captainthunderbolt7541]

Losing camera blur is a good trade off for a more stable framerate.

[@uhhTabby]

I turn camera/motion blur off anyway, makes me dizzy

[@captainthunderbolt7541]

@@uhhTabby A lot of developers take motion blur too far, and it becomes a detriment. I like motion blur when it is applied to fast moving objects on screen, but I don't like motion blur that kicks in when you move the camera, because that just feels bad.

[@uhhTabby]

@@captainthunderbolt7541 Yes I agree

[@enzowarren9832]

The lower resolution really isnt noticable for folks like me who play on Switch Lite, which has no TV-docking capability. On the Lite’s 5.5” screen, this game looks absolutely stunning.

I love John speaking Wolfenstein :p

[@thorocomments]

Alex’s influence on the channel cannot be understated. All hail Dictator!

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

@@thorocomments I wish they would get rid of Alex. I can't stand that pretentious dude.

[@thorocomments]

@@nickmotsarsky4382 “Pretentious.” Fuck off. How? Because he’s knowledgeable? He actually breaks down each setting in games visual options for our benefit. How is that “Pretentious?”

[@perfectogaming5240]

The way he says wolfenstein is annoying.

[@RaveN_EDM]

It’s the correct pronunciation.

[@hunterjensen9465]

Great video! I have a theory that the reason the post processing was cut (Depth of Field and Motion Blur) is because the game is using a temporal reconstruction method much like the 2 previous Wolfenstein ports and that could explain why the performance is excellent in general (and because IDTech 7 is a masterpiece) but the objects in motion have a double edge look to it (best seen on the gun models). Either way, panic button are wizards for what they managed to pull off.

[@Bigdaddymittens]

Great analysis!! Honestly, I think the game still looks really nice, even after the comparisons to the other platforms. The fact that these guys put out such a great port during a pandemic is especially impressive.

[@ren7a8ero]

Having to create an account to any and every publish service when playing a new game is becaming a real PITA. And it is really fun when they change terms of service or when there is a data leak. We customers are being fooled.

[@joesterling4299]

That's why you need throwaway accounts tied to throwaway emails, with absolutely no personal information or payment methods attached.

[@complexacious]

@@joesterling4299 and one day your throwaway account will get thrown away because it doesn't meet some arbitrary new ToS requirement and then you can't log in and can't make a new account because of some permanent key being permanently tied to an account you can't access... Been there, been screwed over by that, will never buy a game that has mandatory 3rd party authentication ever again. And let's not forget the situation where you can't play because the servers are offline and the magic cookie that says "okay to continue offline" is "invalid". Again, been there. If you need a bethesda account to start, you are only renting it for an indefinite time. We got them to remove it from Doom 1/2/3, they NEED to wise up and sack their "sales prevention team".

[@joesterling4299]

@@complexacious That can happen to a legitimate account as well. I'd rather lose the throwaway myself. I can always create a new one. How about you?

[@s31ACE1252]

Just got this on Switch for $20. In docked mode, the frame rate is a solid 30fps. Textures are a bit blurry, but this thing runs extremely well for being on Switch. Even got a 8bitdo pro 2 bluetooth controller to play it with paddles. Got it beat in Nightmare, now working on UV....which is my preferred difficulty on consoles for a causal playthrough.

[@charlieg6913]

😒

[@SPG8989]

Lol what a moron

[@fullauto86]

I cant beleive the destructable demon system is still intact. Real talent on display from id and panic button

[@itsRecreational]

Who knew Chad Warden would make an appearance in this video

[@MrAgility888]

Doom is straight ABAP

[@TNTerrific]

yeaaaaah, it's o-kay on the baby switch, but how's it run on the superior PS-Triple?

[@itsRecreational]

@@TNTerrific that MF PS Trippullll!

[@kingbradley8058]

@@TNTerrific I'm talking P S TRIPLE

[@toot1231]

ps triple make the best games

[@davidstinger1134]

Gotta give props to the Id Tech, my previous PC is almost 10 years old at this point (i3 6100, 16GB DDR3, GTX 960) and by lowering a few graphics settings I could get steady 60 FPS at 1080p. Amazing optimization.

[@bearpuns5910]

14:50 "Sup BEETCHES"

[@Shvabicu]

CHAD WARDEN

[@bearpuns5910]

@idontcaremang *B A L L I N G*

[@itsRecreational]

Chard Warden here. That PS Trippulll bay bee!

[@burnummaster]

I was confused why he's playing this on switch and not on that PS Triple.

[@Peace1dy]

Played through it on switch and might be my favorite FPS of all time. 30fps feels amazing and for me there wasn’t a stutter at all. Best switch port by a mile IMO. Panic button should be purchased by Nintendo and just made their in house porting team.

[@loadedexcrement]

If "30 fps feels amazing to you" then 60 fps is going to blow your fuckin' mind.

[@jeremyvelez7544]

@@loadedexcrement imagine 120 fps

[@Link0402]

That engine is honestly insane. Hope Microsoft puts that to good use over the next few years.

[@homerhat420]

Wasn't even aware this port was a thing. Very impressive.

[@KoujiTamino]

Yeah, they actually announced it at the same time as all other platforms, but it understandably took some extra time.

[@keyboard_g]

Dropping motion blur to get a higher resolution and more consistent frame rate definitely was the right call.

[@LubomirKonecny]

This is really amazing port. These Switch ports remind me of PSP ports like Prince of Persia and Tomb Raider. It was really interesting to play those games on system like PSP.

[@TheRealJochen]

Exept for then people weren't complaining that the portable system doesn't look as good as a ps4 pro

[@LubomirKonecny]

@@TheRealJochen Yeah, that's right. Like, those games didn't have really good textures but they were running at PSP's native resolution which make them look sharp. I know PSP resolution is just 480x272 but I rather have lower native resolution and game running at it than higher native resolution and game using dynamic or lower resolution. They look so blurry this way. I hope there will be implemented some kind of upscaling, sharpening or DLSS in next Switch or who knows what's coming.

[@Loundsify]

Yes, revelations (warrior within port) was brilliant. Also the fact they managed to port burnout 3 as burnout legends was brilliant and GTA LSC/VCS were just like their PS2 counter parts.

[@LubomirKonecny]

@@Loundsify I love Warrior Within and it was amazing to play it on handheld wherever I was.

[@Bombastic_daioh]

@@TheRealJochen It's a home console and it's close.

[@dirtkiller23]

I've been waiting for this!

[@icerink239]

BABY BABY BABY BABY

[@kevindesousa6277]

Ok !!! Now !!!

[@kett912]

No akihiko, down boy

[@shade4404]

Did you see that, Shinji?

[@archetype6351]

Party with the burnt lasagna, YEAH!

[@JokerJay1990]

I remember thinking Tony hawk on the Game boy advance was the epitomy of handheld graphics. It's amazing how far we have come , to be able to play modern day console games on a handheld is just insane to me.

[@retro527]

Just imagine Switch ports if Nintendo ever releases a revision 😍💛

[@AntneeUK]

That is really impressive. The compromises make sense, but you're right that the post-fx would've been nice. I was literally wondering about what they could do should there be a "Switch Pro" just before you said the exact same thing! 😁

[@HardDiskDog]

eternal's textures even in the "regular" versions are often really low resolution from targeting 60fps on the base ps4, notice how you can only scale "filtering quality" for them on pc

[@keithnmoore2]

CDPR should’ve hired Panic Button to make the console version of Cyberpunk!!

[@rubenjorge13]

Well if you look at what they hace done with the next gen patch of forza horizon 4 it's pretty disappointing

[@madmax2069]

@@KarmG-fo4xr exactly.

[@keithnmoore2]

@@KarmG-fo4xr It’s quite normal for AAA studios to bring in porting studios to help out with development. Bethesda “handed off” a few games to Panic Button, much better than CRUNCHING 1 team to be responsible for developing and testing like 9 versions of an ambitious game. EA, Activision, Ubi, 2k, and Square do it all of the time.

[@madfinntech]

You can't polish the turd though.

[@Skippy-id9yt]

@@madfinntech what about "lipstick on a pig" then

[@reinaldopereira1268]

I've been waiting for this for over a month!

[@lllULTIMATEMASTERlll]

It just looks like a lower resolution Doom Eternal! Impressed to be honest.

[@victorvilchez6672]

We live in a world... Imagine a video, back in 2001, reviewing a portable versión of , lets say, Metal Gear Solid 2. This is how massive the Switch is. Its a portable console running nowadays games. Of course its going to be worst compared to home consoles. How funny would be the other way around Its a piece of art technologically speaking

[@VectorGaming4080]

Exactly!! It’s all about perspective when it comes to the switch. It’s so cool I can take this home console with me to work and play DOOM Eternal ON MY LUNCH BREAK. 4K max settings is beautiful, but at the end of the day I care about ripping and tearing and the Switch port doesn’t even look bad, it just doesn’t look as good as the other versions.

[@Soup-man]

Well, MGS2 is on the Vita so.....

[@rhysjones8506]

@@Soup-man and when did the vita come out... The best comparison would be borderlands on vita

[@jlag191]

it’s been literal months since you guys touched Switch so it’s good to see it again

[@paradoxzee6834]

Well Cyberpunk sure kept them busy

[@lawrence703]

Excellent review, I particularly appreciate your target system clarifications,. Thank you.

[@telboy007]

Ahh, the +string trick on emails. A saviour for software testers testing signup/log ins. 😁 (when you need to see the confirmation email)

[@TheNerd]

Can we please give the devs a thumbs up. Even if it does not look as good as a console version, im impressed that you can get this out of a Switch at all.(i grew up with the first Game Boy) And if you play it mobile on that small screen... i mean c'mon no one is playing the game with the screen 2 centimeters away to count pixels.

[@lum26akua28]

Let's not kid ourselves, the drawbacks in pixels is noticeable, but it's still seemingly a great version.

[@weaverquest]

That's why I am watching on my phone to judge the quality. Interestingly the lack of post processing effects is the most noticeable even on a small screen but worth it for the stable performance.

[@TheNerd]

@@weaverquest ye that what i was refering to. the dpi on something like a 7 inch screen is WAY higher. 720p on a phone / switch and a pc monitor are 2 completely different things

[@bliglum]

The Switch is interesting in that it let's us know, roughly, what newer games would look like on last gen, or, two gens ago now, consoles...

[@RyanideProductions]

Yesss, this is exactly what I've been thinking! Dying Light could totally have run on the PS3. Although there's probably no one who remembers how to port to that console so it would probably look even worse

[@CodyHimselfXI]

I still can't believe this game exists on Switch 4 years later.

[@VexAcer]

Wolfenstein 2 did actually get a 1.2 patch that improved performance to the point of eliminating most of the major drops that occured especially in handheld. So New Orleans doesn't drop as much as it used to. I would say it's an almost locked experience now like Eternal is here. Really goes to show how much Panic Button has learned and improved over the years with the Switch.

[@KokoRicky]

I think it would have been worth mentioning that it appears the Switch version has removed most of not nearly all shadowmaps for in-game rendering. Shadowmaps are basically dynamic lightmaps, useful for adding depth to any mobile objects in a scene (such as the player weapon and enemies). When you have shadows draping over objects it goes a long way toward implying realism. I saw almost none of that here which hurts the depth a bit, but overall it's an impressive effort.

[@Alex-pk1iy]

Been playing this on switch for some time now and it’s just so much fun! And that’s what you want from games, primarily. Sure it has loss in graphical fidelity, but the game is so fast paced you barely notice it aside from the quieter parts of the game

[@johnm91326]

Chad panic button vs virgin CDPR

[@igorrafael7429]

8:10 what do you mean lack of depth of field? They applied the effect on the whole screen...

[@flintston3r]

About time. I was hoping you guys covered this eventually

[@iyeetpaste3797]

It's definitely worth the $15 sale price. It looks and plays well enough. It's a great option for those without a decent, or any, PC. My only disappointment is the lack of a physical release.

[@ArjanSnijder]

limited run has done a physicall release. ;). i have it at home. love the game. i love the switch and i'll take the graphicall hit for granted. imagine wii beeing able to have playes slightly lesser graphicall games to the ps3/xbox 360. that would have been amazing. but nintend half assed the wiiu out the door for that fix. The switch actually does what nintendo needed. getting support from these kinda games. The look and run as good as could be on a 2017 handheld with somewhat dated tech....isn't tech in consoles always a bit dated, also in ps4/xboxone??.

[@RussellB]

whenever you say "Wolfenstein", my loose bodily appendage increases in density

[@glorious720p_2]

That’s the proper way of saying it tho lol

[@playerroku4412]

Yeah but hes clearing going out of his way to say it that way. He literally slows down his speech to blur out wolfenschine. I dont know who hes trying to impress

[@haydens.2755]

@@playerroku4412 He's making fun of another DF crew member who unironically says it like that lmao, it's a running joke in the channel

[@playerroku4412]

@@haydens.2755 I was really baffled by it. Thank god.

[@playerroku4412]

@@Channel-tf7ch ok. We already got this figured out. Ans yes, if he had a strong accent it would be said that way. But he does not. And its a joke.

[@boogiedownnyc]

Awesome port !!! When compared side to side with a high performance platform you will see the difference immediately. However if you pick up Doom eternal for the first time you will be amazed at the graphics. The gameplay is still pretty much intact.

[@daggermouth4695]

Thank you for a legit review. You talk calmly You dont have your face on the screen 👍🏻perfect All the other YT celebs are peaking and talking 1000 words a min And take half the screen with their own face 🙄 Rather than reviewing the game.

[@calebcruel20]

I’ve been waiting for this video eagerly. Already purchased the game on Switch on release day, just wanted to hear a good technical analysis from y’all !

[@alfiehicks1]

2:27 I would argue otherwise. Graphically and performance-wise, yes, it is the most inferior, but I'd say that gyro aiming makes it honestly the best console version in terms of controls. Gyro allows for an almost exact replica of the precision afforded by a mouse, and that's definitely necessary for the higher difficulties - especially demons' weak points. I agree with the lamentation of the loss of motion blur, especially because of how much it can help hide a lot of the cutbacks, as seen in 2016. I sincerely hope that we get a Witcher III esque update that allows us to alter the graphics settings with similar freedom to PC. I also hope that we might regain certain postprocessing effects if and when an upgraded Switch finally arrives. I feel like this game could be one of the big games for Nintendo to market how clear of an upgrade it will be. EDIT: There is an absolutely massive performance drop if you dash into the holographic projection of the globe in the Fortress of Doom. I guess that shows why they disabled most instances of motion blur, as even just the whole screen blur from the dash can create a performance dip in more taxing areas.

[@mandarin6662]

So stupid PS4 doesn't get gyro aim either. If they can do it on one, why not the other?

[@ntdosplat3130]

Was thinking this as well. Attempted playing through game pass and xcloud when it was added, but playing with sticks when you're so used to gyro or mouse/keyboard is hell

[@alfiehicks1]

@@mandarin6662 Yeah, it's quite stupid that PS4 doesn't get it, and it's 100% because Microsoft are still using 15 year old technology in their controllers. Although, it's probably also because the Gyro Aiming was programmed by Panic Button themselves, and so it was simply never concieved for the PS4 version.

[@mandarin6662]

@@alfiehicks1 Didn't think of that, but they made gyro for 2016 Doom as well, so theres no excuse for Eternal really

[@alfiehicks1]

@@mandarin6662 Again, that was done by Panic Button. I think developers don't do it for non-Switch games because they both don't realise how game-changing of a feature it is, and also they don't want to invest money in something that will go unused in the Xbox version. The blame is mainly Microsoft's. It's because of their pig headedness about controllers that Xbox systems don't suport motion, and so companies see it as a niche feature. If more games begin to include it in PS5 versions, then Xbox users will begin to question why they don't have it, and begin to voice their complaints towards Microsoft. Honestly, that's the only way I can see it becoming the norm for PS5 versions of multi-platform games.

[@GameplayandTalk]

Definitely an impressive looking port.

[@malo6748]

Bought it today bc its finally reduced on switch and have to say I'm impressed. I was a bit worried when I saw the first choppy cutscene, but as you said the gameplay itself is really stable with only a few minor drops here and there. We Switch users are used to this kind of corny resolution and details, but for this small device it does look good. The controlls feel a bit sluggish for now but I guess I have to get used to doomguys new movememt compared to old doom games. I would say : Does it deliver a good Doom Eternal experience on the Go ? Yes it does. 100% I do hope that a Switch Pro will lead to a more upgraded version of DoomE, but its kind of hard to imagine on what optimization they will focus. I kinda doubt the switch pro will be 60fps and HDR, so maybe just a more detailed version when the pro comes ? We will see.

[@joesterling4299]

Great detailed coverage, as usual. Thank you! My only disagreement is with your emphasis on intentional blurring--any kind. I tend to dislike both DoF and motion blur, particularly when I can get consistently high frame rates. (I don't need or want motion blur in Doom Eternal running at over 120 fps on a 240Hz G-Sync monitor.)

[@lum26akua28]

But this is 30fps...

[@joesterling4299]

@@lum26akua28 True. But he's praising effects like DoF and motion blur, as if they were a good thing in general. That's what I disagree with.

[@lum26akua28]

@@joesterling4299 I see, but that is his opinion and he states that it is what he'd like to see implemented.

[@sjknight413]

Some very nice analysis here John, been playing this since release and I've been consistently impressed. The frame rate in particular has been a massive improvement over doom 2016 and it makes all the difference! I'm surprised you didn't make any mention of the cube map reflections which also seem to be a huge step up from doom 2016. In the absence of screen space reflections the cube maps here seem to be very accurate to the reflected scene in most cases, just another point that impressed me throughout! It would have been interesting to know whether you thought they were a bespoke implementation, or whether they were simply a fallback built in to the engine in case of the screen space implementation being disabled. Looking forward to more switch analysis from you guys in 2021 😊

[@PieStudios]

Are you gonna cover Dragon Quest XI S on Xbox One and PS4? It’s very interesting.

[@MothersOfMars]

Yeah I’d like to see an official tear down. I’m quite disappointed with how it was handled.

[@Zakurablade]

Iv played a bit of it on xboxone. But now upgraded to a Series S. It looked great on the base xboxone s. Imo. Have not tried it yet on Xbox Series s

[@PieStudios]

@@MothersOfMars Eh, I’m satisfied with it. It’s a budget title, I imagine investing a ton of time and money into re-implementing the old lighting was out of the scope of the project.

[@MothersOfMars]

@@PieStudios True. Dragon Quest (unfortunately) doesn’t really set the west on fire in terms of sales. Just glad to see mainline DQ make its way to the Xbox tbh.

[@weaverquest]

I heard it looks worse than the original non-S version what a joke.

[@hasanshah6372]

I like how DF pronounces Wolfenstein as 'Volfvenshtine' 😏

[@rifuzilla9179]

“The switch is the worst way to play doom” did you forget stadia

[@davecarsley8773]

Oh man. Once you've been watching the Switch version on screen for a few minutes (which doesn't appear _too_ bad in a vacuum), that camera cut following your comment at 4:47 is absolutely BRUTAL! That's an *entirely different video game.*

[@mclaine33]

I still can’t believe they managed to get it to run adequately enough on the Switch. Very impressive.

[@sandman8993]

I absolutely love this game. It’s fantastic on switch!

[@logospaint4290]

please measure input latency too, especially when talking about multiplatform titles.

[@feldartillerie1620]

is that some kind of disease? Always find something new to still have a difference? First it's the raw power, then it's the resolution, then it's the volume of the devices or the size of the hard drive and now the input latency is extremely important? No ass has cared about it for decades but now does it matter?

[@realislit8064]

If I remember correctly, the reason why they couldn't do that is because they don't have the accessories for it

[@lum26akua28]

@@feldartillerie1620 Input latency has always mattered, do you want people not to discuss things that make versions inferior or superior?

[@joesterling4299]

@@feldartillerie1620 Why would you say input latency doesn't matter? Good twitch gameplay absolutely requires low-latency player inputs.

[@LowSpecGamer]

This is the best version of the game from a certain point of view. Very, very impressive.

[@thorocomments]

The god!

[@sirduckoufthenorth]

yeah Doom Eternal is pretty well optimized

[@EggBastion]

Yeah, I'll be honest I wasn't entirely happy with the choice of words used there.

[@thorocomments]

@@sirduckoufthenorth “Pretty well” seems to be an understatement here.

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Uh what? Worst version by far. If you have any other console, play it there instead.

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

Finally, an analysis that I've been looking forward for almost a year, now. I hope this video leads to an interview with Panic Button devs where they talk about the porting process of Doom Eternal, most importantly if they make use of Vulkan on the Switch port.

[@chan13153]

Bought time you guys gave switch a little love again. It's been like 2 months of nonstop next gen videos. Crysis 1.6 should be another video hopefully you guys look into. It ups the visuals by alot

[@pixelsrnautded9286]

When I take off my glasses Switch and Xbox one X look the same.😁

[@VaderTheWhite]

I spent many an hour playing Doom (2016) on my Switch. Hell, it was the first game I bought for the system! And I did notice the frame rate dips. I was incredibly surprised how I didn't notice any in Eternal. Yeah, it is technically the worst version of the game, but it still plays excellently and you can meathook while taking a dump, so this is a major win

[@UOHCUNY]

How long are your shits dude

[@paymansalehishafa6884]

God, I love DOOM No game has ever made my adrenaline rush so hard.

[@andreworders7305]

12:03 weird how whenever it goes below 30 it goes above it before settling at 30 again

[@absupinhere]

Thank you for this thoughtful analysis! This nuance is too often lost on other reviewers

[@WH250398]

Absolutely sucks that the Physical version was cancelled for no reason. That's a no buy for me unfortunately. But wow what an amazing port again!

[@jimmyhopkins1]

hoping when covid starts to level out physical releases will start to get back to normal

[@nuclearbeeberman]

i bougth it because I was too curious how the port will be :D... But I would have prefered a physical version too

[@donjames5761]

maybe cyberpunk should been handled by Panic Button

[@NeoDeXs]

All studios suffer when rushing releases.

[@sonumistry8577]

@@NeoDeXs Well said.

[@donjames5761]

@@NeoDeXs cant argue with that statement. but i wouldn't call 9 years rush. gta 5 took like 3 years but rockstar does have more experience than cdprojekt red

[@davetheimpaler204]

If Panic Button ported Cyberpunk to Switch, it would definitely run better than PS4/XB1 launch.

[@chillhour6155]

@@donjames5761 not 9 years, 2016 it started preproduction and started serious development around the time blood and whine got released, remember those two dlc's that were the size of most AAA games ?

[@obamacheck3567]

I was surprised that motion blur wasn’t available at launch. It worked great in smoothing the frames in the 2016 port. I even turn pomb on for Eternal when I’m at 60fps on ps4. Hopefully they’ll add it in later

[@playerroku4412]

Loll wut

[@obamacheck3567]

@@playerroku4412 sry man. Usually I detest motion blur as much as the next guy ( especially that ghosting type) but good pomb actually looks great to me

[@playerroku4412]

@@obamacheck3567 motion blur is more taxing on hardware, no?

[@obamacheck3567]

I guess, but it was a feature in 2016 so I think they could make it work

[@CuzziP]

It runs better than Cyberpunk on base PS4. If the Switch was my only console and I was interested in Doom Eternal I’d 100% pick this up

[@verfresht]

Just got a series s with game pass. Still considering to get this on switch becaus of gyro aiming. Once mastered, gyro aiming in incredible.

[@theoofth]

Waited so long for this, i really hope nintendo release an enhanced switch.

[@Superschemer34]

Not happening. You know nintendo doesn’t go for graphics. They go for substance

[@MrSir]

@@Superschemer34 an enhanced switch in the fashion of the new 3ds is absolutely possible.

[@theoofth]

@@Superschemer34 yes but there comes a point where they can't maintain ideal performance which restricts the feeling of agency. Also some people want a cleaner image on the go which is possible for nintendo given that nvidia and mobile hardware has evolved massively since 2015.

[@anibalmax1981]

It's coming. It's only a matter of when, but it will come.

[@MysticalMastodon]

@@Superschemer34 Well, if there’s no graphics upgrade soon, there won’t be anymore AAA third-party substance.

[@TheDonner000]

I was wondering if they would never make this video.

[@justwait9822]

PC gamers : if it's not 4k 120fps, I dont want to play it Xbox/PS gamers: I hope its 4k 60fps with a 120 mode or 1440p 60fps minimum. Switch gamers: YaSs, 360p 30FpS CAn'T wAIt tO PlaY iT.

[@bearpuns5910]

The best part is that all 3 will be satisfied with the game and have a great time

[@dedecoVGMDJ]

how's the input lag? it was awful on doom 2016

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Significantly better, they seem to have addressed the frame-time issues so it feels a lot smoother.

[@draconian4433]

The fact it even runs at all is amazing.