Doom II: Nuts 100% Kills - 85 Revenants vs 850 Cyberdemons [TAS]

[@decino]

Time well spent.

[@gabrieleromanazzi1511]

This is how god punishes demons

[@vincentwatkins1892]

I agree that it was worth taking the time to do this. I'm not sure it's worth _Zero Master's_ time, but I guess no one else was going to do it.

[@apocalypticpioneers2116]

Can't wait for you to try this route

[@nevermind8535]

now you definitely should make a video about what TAS is for us to imagine what kind of effort is required to make THIS, sir

[@vincentwatkins1892]

@@nevermind8535 This is actually an excellent suggestion. I don't think Zero Master is one to make such a video, but this is a situation where a behind-the-scenes video about the TAS would be far more interesting than the TAS itself.

[@SteVen-eg4sq]

This map cracks me up. First played it back in 2008 and the second I fired a single bullet it was just a powerpoint presentation.

[@d3vs3b96]

LMFAO BRO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@thomasvleminckx]

Made in '01, when virtually no one could play it

[@c0m4g1bb]

that doesn't make any sense

[@ccb1127]

@@c0m4g1bb his frame rate was at the speed of a slideshow

[@random_an0n]

@@c0m4g1bb when this map was made no pc was powerful enough to play it,took years for computers to catch up to run it at stable frames

[@dhakshan]

Actually in all these times, I now only realised the back ground music is Led Zeppelin's Kashmir

[@JGD_CZE]

Thank you. My brain forgot what song it exactly is and you saved me. :D

[@dhakshan]

@@JGD_CZE no problem

[@Ast123831]

Thank you, from Russian ❤

[@Cyberdoctorx]

Godzilla, puffy daddy yeh

[@Buttington_Headerson]

Wonder where they stole it from

[@Par9000]

>Totally waste of time >NUTS 100% This is how world records are being made baby!

[@MarphitimusBlackimus]

My favorite part was the part with the Revenants. It just a shame the map author put in so few Revenants forcing you to take so long to summon 70,000 missiles. I can think of at least one other map where it would take much less time to achieve 70k Revenant rockets.

[@naza1554]

Maybe a "100000 revenants vs 800 cyberdemons" can be a nice wad.

[@maliook727]

@@naza1554 There is 100,00 revenants wad

[@artcellrox]

@@maliook727 the joke flew over your head. the guy who made the original comment here IS the one who made that wad

[@maliook727]

@@artcellrox yea i knew that i saw him comment on aquarius199's video

[@MillywiggZ]

Leave these children alone you drug dealer.

[@_antares031]

Everyone, please calm down. It's only seventy thousand revenant rockets.

[@G.reviewz]

The ravenents

[@spinvalve]

Israel has nothing on revenants

[@Lovuschka]

Probably the most insane DOOM TAS ever created.

[@ziomeksterys2275]

I wonder if it isn't the most insane TAS ever of any game.

[@CHROME.FINDER]

Yea even with assisted tools it’s really impressive… Now do it on nightmare…

[@STRANGER1559]

Oh! What about okuplock?

[@Erictraiven]

Is this tas im disappo....

[@Coolskeleton95644]

The (maybe) most hardest but most satisfied TAS.

[@SarahWattCA]

You don't get a real idea of how intense the revenant deathball is until the end when you can see how much momentum it gives the cyberdemons when it hits them

[@valentinaalex1262]

Timestamp please.

[@SarahWattCA]

@@valentinaalex1262 it's easier to see toward the end when there are fewer Cyberdemons left like at 27:20 - they go FLYING from the sheer amount of damage hitting them, in spite of their huge mass!

[@Shahid_2004]

Of course you wouldn't from this, when vid is recorded on godmode.

[@mengo329]

​@@Shahid_2004what? He literally takes damage. He's invulnerable because he picked up invulnerability power ups lol

[@willrobson7265]

Imagine being one of those cyberdemons and after 5 hours of patiently waiting to kill doomguy, he jumps off the ledge trailing 70,000 rockets

[@hardtymz2517]

this happened exactly in Bad Boys 2

[@justhere4637]

​​@@hardtymz2517 What? How?

[@toddkes5890]

Similar to the scene from Galaxy Quest where Tim Allen's character tells Sarris, "And what you fail to realize is my ship is dragging mines!"

[@plasma9706]

"Oh there he is, about ti- HOLY SHIT!"

[@dbodooley]

It was more like 13 rockets. He kept gathering more but then let so many of them hit the wall?! It was a waste of time

[@PeterLawrenceYT]

I genuinely and honestly thought this was impossible. Zero Master, you are a genius.

[@furiousstudios4438]

I feel like Nuts’ army would be great for a background in a Doom level, although it would obviously fry a computer unless they are all 2D images with no AI, making it slightly less dangerous

[@thefadebeta580]

@@furiousstudios4438 I bet there is a way using AI that can somehow replicate pixels without actually rendering them.

[@antoinejt]

@@thefadebeta580 that's called an image

[@ZenoPopo]

Imagine killing all these cyberdemons and then realizing you didn't take enough ammo to finish the revenants

[@KiKfilms]

hehe

[@aguywhocommentsonthings3362]

MEGA OOF

[@BanzayIkoyama]

There's always your fist!

[@FzeroVaporeon]

@@BanzayIkoyama no glory kill

[@LadyZubat]

I would cry

[@TheDoomerBlox]

The most impressive part is that neither the game shit the bed and exploded, nor did input handling stop functioning completely under such strain.

[@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785]

Yeah, that was my first reaction too...a Fatal Error OE 257-something, *System Cache Overflow*

[@egonieser]

Well it's not exactly a lot of data for modern systems to handle. Remember doom is really primitive and literally run on simple calculations. These numbers are nothing when an average gaming PC can process multitudes more calculations per second.

[@cliftongamespoorly6333]

@MiamiRyu nothing to do with the strength of your PC, more due to limitations of the engine

[@iennefaLsh]

That's why you should use PrBoom+ for Nuts.

[@IDyn4m1CI]

@@egonieser You forgot the part in the description where ZeroMaster said the game would run 4 frames every 14 seconds when he's taking down the cyberdemons with the homing missiles, and how his character wouldn't move backwards, lol. Also how it took him 23 days to ultimatelly achieve a 6 hour run

[@0babul0]

ZeroMaster: *looks at Cyberdemon* Cyberdemon: *guess I'll explode*

[@belandino]

Best strat

[@denon593]

What dedication ,Zero Master deserves real life superpowers for the effort he has put into the Doom community. No reason Kim Kardashian should have more fame than you, you are the true gift to the world, thank you so much

[@s2korpionic]

I didn't know you could make a Spirit Bomb out of Revenant missiles.

[@MagiCave]

how did you even come up with this, I'm dead

[@andarerYT]

@@MagiCave Pls don't be dead, death is bad for your health.

[@MagiCave]

@@andarerYT thank you, I was able to survive and even got a zenkai boost for it, all is well

[@TheXxthedamagedxX]

He did on okuplok too

[@darksoul6482]

Cyberdemons: this is not my final form yet

[@lexyeevee]

This is genius, and insanity. This may be the greatest speedrun of all time. I dub the artifact you've created the "Revenant Meteor" and it may be the most terrifying thing I've ever seen in Doom.

[@Spunney]

Are you the Eevee on cohost???????

[@lexyeevee]

@@Spunney if i just posted a css random number generator then yes, hi

[@apocalypticpioneers2116]

Can't wait for Decino to try this route

[@clownpiece5992]

Then: Building up speed for 12 hours Now: Building up Revenant rockets for 5 hours

[@KokoroKatsura]

A N I M E N I M E

[@spinningchurro]

23 days. Read the description.

[@GarishBus045]

Those spider mastermind glitching noises sounds like my truck trying to start up after I put syrup into the coolant tank.

[@gregoryderpwrld111]

You did WHAT??

[@Arch_X69]

Love how it ended with 6 health and 9 armor. Nice.

[@aaz1992]

Nice

[@nurkyye]

Nice

[@VergilSpardaDMC]

Nice

[@freddledgruntbuggly9408]

Nice

[@aaronaaron5599]

Nice

[@banebruja]

"I have defeated the enemy by simply marching" ~Napoleon

[@accordiontv1]

How did that work out for him?

[@banebruja]

@@accordiontv1 in the war he was referring to pretty well.

[@thomasvleminckx]

@@accordiontv1 better than your life so far

[@accordiontv1]

😝 😆

[@SamisAga1]

@@accordiontv1 He took on the Austrians by simply marching by their back and eventually getting them to sign a brutal peace deal. It is one of his most famous victories.

[@zombieplasticclock]

Absolutely wild. To think there's been a cheese strat for Nuts all this time, even if its absolute suffering to pull off

[@Double-X2-Points]

Such a cheese strat indeed! Took the fun right out of playing it for me

[@creationlord6283]

The part I love most is that this exists. The amount of work that had to go into this is still insane and amazing, but that you decided to make exist in the reality that is ours will forever be awesome.

[@ritamariealan93]

You know shit is serious when you have to turn off the loud ass blinding white light of the invulnerability

[@theoperator288]

What a random coincidence. I was just looking for a 30 minute distraction. Thanks ZM! PS: I thought the "5 hours later...." was going to be a joke... ZM is a god for doing this.

[@HomelessEmperor03]

Same here

[@manowartank8784]

holy f*** ... 26:10 watching the stacked missile just one-shoting every single cyberdemon is absolutelly mad

[@btv4120]

Watching it send them flying is absolute madness

[@EpicTyphlosionTV]

Alternate title: "Zeromaster beats nuts.wad so fast his computer doesn't melt"

[@ireneparkin3360]

Or:- Absolute Legend beats the most infamous wad in super fast time.

[@Unicr0nNidAaz]

No

[@Double-X2-Points]

If melt=splooge

[@metalvideos1961]

he plays it with prboom. thats why.

[@aguywhocommentsonthings3362]

@@Unicr0nNidAaz yes

[@w1984t]

You just can't help yourself, can you? You're pretty much ingrained into the part of my brain that remembers anything Doom at this point...and I've been playing since 93!

[@Baraclese]

Those two cyberdemons at the end just want to get out as they are hugging the wall, frantically searching for the exit while they have to witness the otherworldly annihilation of their army.

[@classic952]

Now this is peak slaying, turning revenant missiles into a cyberdemon cheese grater

[@Paleto-A1]

This was pretty much shows that Doomguy fears nothing and he can end an entire hell population.

[@wild_Vaporeon]

And before his powers

[@KokoroKatsura]

a n i m e n i m e

[@Michaelyurmom]

You are amazing and Karl J was my first initiation into your crazy ass. I love it. The ingenuity and determination is striking and the expert setups, this would make Romero and Carmack shed a bloody tear. Other records of yours as well have been amazing to take in. Cheers.

[@MelissaMariaASMR]

Now THAT was satisfying. DOOM is my favorite! Much appreciated!!

[@thinkforyourself2109]

The backstory of how this run was created is fascinating. Apparently, it took over a month to do this video because of the slow frame rate, using programming and a lot of ZM's labour to direct the rockets -- which is now reduced to 30 minutes of gameplay. If 30 min seems long to you, imagine the tedium of making it! I am still not 100% sure what's happening but it seems to be a way to bring about friendly fire from the revenants and cyberdemons.

[@johns1625]

Revenants fire a honing missile 30% of the time and you can use them to cause other monsters to infight or kill them. This is 70k Revenant missiles all in one, so many in fact it doesn't even render the sprite of the missiles, so it looks invisible.

[@BarneyCarroll]

@@johns1625it evens out to a 50% chance. I highly recommend the excellent Decino video on the subject, “The Mystery of the Revenant Missile”, which steps through all the code paths and permutations.

[@Ant-iy7jt]

Would love to see a free moving camera perspective that follows the unstoppable revenant missiles!

[@KroutonCing]

17:16 I would have made the time card say “5 hours later” “(Technically)”

[@Final-Ts]

Thank you for your time, sir. It was and is appreciated.

[@TheBrassDancer]

Watching 800+ Cyberdemons explode one by one without shooting them yourself is glorious. Gotta make a necro edit. Just watched Karl Jobst's video about this particular demo and I have to say I appreciate this even more. The effort put into doing what is a proof of concept like this is utterly astounding.

[@jackiechungus3560]

That was insane! Still remember when I first tried beating nuts.wad, only to realize there wasn’t enough ammo for all the kills. Amazing!

[@JimmyJoeBob]

You've brought absurd entertainment to thousands. I would not consider this to be a waste.

[@ts488275]

28:07 I wonder how many more cybers that missle could have killed

[@jellyjohn6969]

...... just wow. I hope you take long break after this, it seems like a massive undertaking

[@DuckReconMajor]

I was looking at the nuts demo page the other day. Thinking "surely by now someone has TAS-punched all the cybers" But leave it to you to work smarter, not harder!

[@Kardeell]

This 100% run of one map is longer than time of any% of all doom games together. This is impressive!

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Doom 2016 is like an hour afaik, so not really

[@LyingSecret]

@@wolfetteplays8894 Right, and this took way longer than an hour so..... am I missing something here?

[@Kotetsu_T_Kaburagi]

Like going back to KZbin in the early days. This is what people should upload! Great video! Rip and tear!

[@BlazeRhodon]

If someone wonder what is this music track, I can tell right away: it is MIDI version of classic rock song Led Zeppelin "Kashmir" from 1975. If I'm not mistaken vanilla Doom engine uses slightly modified General MIDI files as music playback.

[@Fidchell]

The sounds of the Spider Demons being constantly cut off gets me every time.

[@einarschwentke7813]

Well done. I appreciate the time you put in!

[@HurricaineJr]

Great vid, and a really great description to explain why the uv-max records are only 92%

[@captainjurgh8142]

Very impressive and also i think this explains the crazy damage output Revenant rockets have

[@TheRoyalCheez]

the midi song is kashmir by led zeppelin if anyone is curious

[@Nikki-n4k]

Im a chick, i started playing doom when i was like 9. Idk all the technical terms of this game, but man. The adrenalin i got from watching that... so clever, just circling the big goat guys (thats what i used to call them) until they offed themselves, is just genius to me.. i could watch hours of doom game play. This, and duke nukem 3d were my faves. I commend your efforts sir. Well done. Little me is in awe 😂❤

[@JaydenVaudrin]

Great TAS as always. Love the zeppelin midi while you're demon slaying

[@planet23k]

@@slothgirl2022 Not only that, that invulnerability thing also comes in the .wad and is pretty sweet : )

[@prestonjones4941]

Dammit

[@ngobleus]

I 'meh'd' through the first few seconds of the video, then I realized the music is referencing "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin.

[@harbingerdawn]

Absolute legend, incredible respect for your commitment to this achievement.

[@blackwunk]

Reminds me of the inside of the butcher's shop when I was a kid. Thanks to my buddy Mike for introducing me to DOOM back in '94. Love you, bro!

[@TheOneCapCan]

God bless this man’s soul 5 hours I don’t know of anyone other than zero master to do any of this

[@catascopic9542]

I've always thought there should be some puzzle map where you have to collect revenant rockets to kill a cyberdemon. Maybe it was this map the whole time!

[@FerretWarlord1]

Check out Noye map35

[@catascopic9542]

holy shit

[@ziomeksterys2275]

This is the thing I wondered about for a long time - why exactly Doom slows down when there are many objects present? I mean, what PC component is the bottleneck? When I checked Performance in Task Manager during a heavy slowdown, CPU utilization of Doom was around 10% and GPU's was even less.

[@MagiCave]

Disclaimer: educated guess, could talk out of my ass, but I can only assume it's an engine limitation. While there could be enough power to handle the entire scene, the actual code that's tracking every single entity (rockets, monsters, player) struggles to keep up with a number of objects it wasn't supposed to handle, bogging down everything else happening in the engine, the elaboration of frames to send to your screen included. Basically, it's the computer that is waiting for the engine to produce frames, as opposed to the usual scenario where it's the engine that is waiting for your hardware to finish computing frames it wasn't able to elaborate quickly enough. Honestly, it's impressive that it was able to handle everything without crashing. Think about it, it was slow, yes, but the engine was still able to track every entity correctly and produce a result without errors! Most likely a feat made possible only thanks to the enhancements brought by a source port, the programmers in the Doom community are straight up archwizards. Makes me wonder if it would be possible to cook up a source port with enhanced object handling, wouldn't shock me, but probably a bigger waste of time than completing this map (using Zero's words lol IT WASN'T A WASTE OF TIME, ZERO!!)

[@Shepardus]

Doom's game logic runs in a single thread, so it's unable to take full advantage of multi-core CPUs.

[@masterneme]

It's a software problem, those objects are allocated in memory but there are so many of them that the engine needs several visits to RAM making timeframe higher and therefore lower framerate. That explains the low performance with low CPU utilization, because it's not a matter of power but about not taking advantage of Cache. Nowadays there are ways to solve this by using ECS or Particle Systems. I wonder if a Source Port could be modified with an ECS like flecs to support huge amounts of objects...

[@gabriel_linf]

This gameplay is really nuts, but what i love the most is the remix of "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin playing in the background lol, insane Doom midi adaptation.

[@ProjectDevilEye]

Calling BS on the TAS, Zero Master is legit good enough to do this himself. Jokes aside though you have the patience of a saint for this, well done.

[@tmorrow321]

Great to see that nuts is indeed uvmaxable (at least tas'able). With a total monster hp to max weapon damage ratio of 26+, either a truckload of infighting and/or feeble fisting is required. I never thought of using rev fireballs, although I probably should have after seeing NOYE map35.

[@DiLL-PiCKLe02]

nobody else realized the music is Led Zeppelin ?

[@BlazeRhodon]

I did. It is Kashmir.

[@michaeljywang0619]

This is amazing! I salute to you, Zero Master!

[@swn32]

just use idkfa lmao

[@pixelcrunch300]

I loved the part in the beginning when he picked up the Invulnerability sphere, and it looked like he was using the BFG as a shovel to dig through dirt.

[@drewnoword5391]

Who ever redid Led Zeppelin - Kashmir in this form …. Kudos to you!!

[@dansmoothback9644]

Didn't look at the channel name until the very end of the video. Who else but Zero Master. Hats off for not ending up institutionalized after this feat.

[@JohnSuitepee]

And this is why we should fear Revenants.

[@MsDavid47]

Doomguy standing in the middle of the piles of corpses, resting his arms on the BFG next to him. Doomguy: *You probably wondered how I got here, well let me tell you...*, video starts.

[@potatomatop9326]

No demons were harmed in the making of this video.

[@NecroViolator]

I build a super sized map with custom GFX and played COOP with friend and it takes over 4 hours to get to exit with over 7000 monsters on map. Was going to release it, but didnt. Didnt know if anyone still played this old game :)

[@prestonjones4941]

Anyone notice Kashmir?

[@dvswia1831]

Under four minutes to kill 90% ....impressive!

[@GenericInternetter]

1:50 sudden multiple arch-vile fires = major anxiety attack

[@GeorgiPachov]

This is absolutely insane. You are the most insane doomer there can possibly be

[@aguywhocommentsonthings3362]

this map is truly insane. All those monsters... All those guts.... I love it.

[@kylewilson9189]

This video changed what I was going to do tonight. Thanks! Like the music!

[@Reziac]

That is an impressively weird solution. Congrats! And you're hired. :D

[@cacomeat7385]

It feels illegal to see this map running at a steady framerate

[@IKurtC]

i just need to say "damn" that ia a lot of effort... well done you are a living legend

[@cwp24]

Watching that kill counter climb was satisfying

[@robcampbell67]

love how kashmir by led zeppelin is just casually plating in the background

[@doondoon859]

Just one question for Zero Master... What motivated you to do this?!

[@danielja1832]

Well done. Didn't think this was possible, TAS or otherwise. Wow 3500 kills in 50 seconds?

[@ThiagoNunesRS]

3500 kills at the second 47. From 13 to 1:03 it was 4594 kills. Very huge infight!

[@ThiagoNunesRS]

And from second 13 to 31 it was 2488 kills, 138 kills/s!!!!

[@planet23k]

Ye, it's crazy but also super enjoyable infighting. Nuts2 and other crazy infight maps have these fucked up counters going up like crazy :D

[@ThiagoNunesRS]

In fact from the start frame of the second 15, when he starts to strike enemies with the BFG, to the exact start frame of the second 31, witch is the first second after the last BFG kill, it is exactly 153,5625 deaths per second. Super hiper mega huge wow!!!!

[@Leon_Ryu]

Given the nature of this run, let's consider the alternative: fisting the Cyberdemons. While punching one to death is easy with practice, this assumes a Berserk Pack, which this level doesn't provide. There's also the problem of punching them while the remaining 799 shoot rockets. Even if you don't get surrounded thanks to constant circling, you will eventually get damaged by splash damage from a Cyberdemon hitting another. But let's step outside the realm of sanity and/or pretend a TAS can avoid the rocket splash. Let's also pretend you can dodge rockets perfectly while holding the Fire button down, and never miss a punch. Doomguy punches at 123.5 punches per minute, dealing 2-20 damage without a Berserk Pack. At 11 damage on average, it takes almost exactly 3 minutes to kill a 4000 HP Cyberdemon. If 800 remain due to a good map start, that's 2400 minutes, or 60 hours. Slower than the 5 of this video, but faster than the 23 days that it takes due to lag. The 60 hours become 30 if every punch deals maximum damage, and then only 3 hours if we drop a Berserk Pack for Doomguy. A bargain! Of course, the amount of TASing required would be so large, you'd need a tool to do the TAS automatically, becoming a tool-assisted-tool-assisted-speedrun.

[@gabrielbrunne1203]

Oh my! The MIDI rendition of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir is f*ck*ng awesome!

[@GenericInternetter]

TENS OF THOUSANDS OF REVENANT ROCKETS noob: oh dear lord this is so scary pro: i can handle it zero master: thx for free rockets lol

[@Opanker_]

It doesn't really matter how many rockets there are when the map is so big

[@CarmeloSantosF]

B.P.R.D., if you are out there, I wouls love to know your thoughts on this run

[@harrietje2001]

I think this route is the new cpu benchmark.

[@Klonoa1488]

That and the new spider toaster.

[@janoycresva919]

This is MADNESS !! Karl Jobst just released a video about this run Zero Master

[@erikapeng8847]

Hahaha...The whole row is full of fireballs

[@antioveja]

Literally the calmest black metal concert I have ever seen in my life.

[@KyleHarrisonRedacted]

No one asks the hard hitting important questions, like: “imagine the smell?”

[@disfiguringthegoddess1102]

the best part ist he led zepp playing in the background lmao.

[@Varg69420]

seeing that you thought this was a huge waste of time, i hope you don't keep deciding to do this sort of thing, i think we'd all rather you spend your time on more enjoyable experiences

[@mik3y80]

Hahaha

[@Sanctumization]

What is the song of beginning? Sounds familiar

[@iennefaLsh]

Kashmir by Led Zeppelin.

[@baconthug3774]

When zero reaches 100k he’ll speedrun hdoom

[@markus-hermannkoch1740]

And all of this just because cyberdemon rockets are no rockets, preventing cyberdemons from infighting.

[@max-zv7sf]

Incredibile! As always, such an entertaining video! Walk me through something, do revenant missiles '' condense'' into the last missile we see or does the game just not render the cloud of missiles we should be seeing? I feel like i am missing something obvious, but i'd like to be illuminated.

[@ZeroMaster]

they are all nearly exactly on top of each other, so you only see like a few of them, but they are all rendered.

[@max-zv7sf]

@@ZeroMaster thank you so much! It's awesome that someone with your skills would do such a run and share it with us!