Doom II: Sunder - Map 08 (Pale Monument) UV-Max in

[@ZeroMaster]

99% kills because a cyberdemon cannot teleport on old version of sunder... need to make this comment since I know some will ignore the video description and go straight to the comments to mention this seemingly obvious thing I missed. Anyways, sunder map09 will be next saturday, map 10 and 11 are pretty long so not sure when those will be done.

[@humanbeing_]

GG

[@doomerrasa8475]

You're running the old version of sunder because that's the one DSDA uses, right? If that ever changes, do you plan to run the new one?

[@simonefois4078]

Thanks Zero, incredible as usual :D

[@terrytrollface]

You get plenty of rockets this map but I always accidently grab more ammo than I need and end up needing everything to infight. A nineteen minute improvement is absolutely nuts.

[@ironknuckle5469]

Great game as always

[@geakfreek1828]

That cacodemon at 9:01 climbing on the left busted some sick moves

[@DoesThisWork888]

'' Can't catch me bitch when I'm spinnin' ''

[@valaha]

High roller

[@costco_pizza]

Look up Cacodemon roasts Doomguy on youtube. You will see this exact Cacodemon and his moves.

[@pamposzek]

"Improves the previous record by 19 minutes and 46 seconds." Ah yes, classic ZeroMaster.

[@hiramesensei3112]

absolute madman

[@GeneralPotatoSalad]

I love that opening. 2500 unsuspecting demons and one Doomguy slowly squeezing his massive form between the bars keeping him from them.

[@humanbeing_]

Beastmode with TWO east-glides. Incredible time saver with that successful strat alone. GG

[@mja2317]

At 12:47 Zero Master runs directly at an army with 39% health. What an absolute hero...

[@kingdomkey2397]

Brings a tear to my eye. A true legend.

[@BioHazard7911]

It's moments like these that make me think we all have a little bit of Doom Guy inside of us.. Or Zero Master is the real DG lmao

[@misharatkevich9808]

InsaneGazebo: either forgets or doesn't care about the glide possibility for a lategame weapon ZM: hippity hoppity your bfg is my property

[@mono4643]

11:12 That Cacodemon put up a fight!

[@doomerrasa8475]

Nice. This map uses the music from AV map20, and it's a great track-fits great with the aesthetics of pale monument

[@T3sl4]

And I'd expect no less from the kill count. I mean, besides that it's Sunder, obviously!

[@megasphere308]

Thanks! I love this music

[@DinnerForkTongue]

IG has this gift of making maps around music tracks that I've always appreciated. Both in Sunder and more recently in Haste.

[@kentuckyjoe7443]

easily becoming one of my favorite series to watch keep it up legend

[@themartonjanos6194]

I remember watching a several-parter gameplay of this map - also the first one from Sunder I ever seen anything about - in 2010 back then, when KZbin did not allow videos over 10 minutes in any shape or form with only a few exceptions or caveats. Seeing a player breeze through Pale Monument in a matter that would've only taken 2 videos in those times is insane, yet - concerning the recordbreaking abilities of the community itself - oddly believeable at the same time. Keep up making a short and good work on these beasts Zero!

[@Ennello]

This is my favourite of the old Sunder maps! I come back to it every once in a while. Perfect length in my opinion. I could never speedrun it though. I'll be happy already if I beat it saveless. You're crazy, mister master...

[@unr34L-]

He says it’s not that hard in the description of the video LOL

[@tiitto167]

@@unr34L- that is relatively speaking i guess. Not that hard for zeromaster is almost unbeatable for normal humans. every Sunder map have extremely hard difficulty, except maybe map 1 that just very very hard.

[@JiggyA]

The goopy crunch of imps gibbing, the crispy crunch of revenants dying, screams of hell knights and barons getting slaughtered, and the mini Chewbacca noises from the dying caco’s - the sound design of this game is just as satisfying as the awesome and unique gameplay. Great run 👍🏼

[@FormerHumanX]

The two things I miss most in the newer Doom games: enemy infighting and a BFG that is actually useful.

[@geakfreek1828]

I mean the bfg is useful for skipping fights but that's just no fun

[@josephtalarigo4243]

The new Doom games have infighting! It's not as useful but very often you'll see demons fighting each other, in both 2016 and Eternal.

[@FormerHumanX]

@@josephtalarigo4243 It's staged, though. The enemies can't actually harm one another. It's totally different from the old games where getting enemies to fight was a fun and important strategy.

[@De-M-oN]

@@FormerHumanX infighting is op in classic doom though. They should be a little bit more forgiving until they shoot back like in e.g. Blood 1.

[@Daniel-jz9td]

I also do miss infighting in Eternal and 2016, but it isn't as much of a feature given how those games are designed as infighting would make the game a lot easier, not saying it won't be fun tho. BFG is a weird weapon, I agree that is not so fun to use as it feels like a skip encounter button, I rather use the Unmakyr as it's an unparalleled power which requires wisdom to use and to make the most of.

[@Raiseflag_Surrender]

Zero Master entered the map. Poor helpless monsters united and sent a petition to the Organization for Keeping Monsters Healthy and Safe, demanding immediate refuge and safe spaces. :)

[@schizzm8472]

Doom Rng damage Gods where on your side! So lucky with this revenant low damage roll rocket at 16:56, that could end your run at finish line! Great video as always, LEGEND!

[@nullharmonic]

Man, that's alot o' demons. Always fun to watch some uv-max

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

There's something oddly hypnotic about watching you glide around these maps, just gibbing wave after wave of demons. It's so fluid, that 17 minutes felt like 5!

[@lobstotsbol]

nice username

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

@@lobstotsbol thank you!! The Doom map is so great that I named my band after it, haha!

[@lobstotsbol]

@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic I just checked out your channel and really like your songs, 'the only constant is suffering' was my favorite! Also I agree about e4m6, its texturing is really good and gives an impression of hell more than some of the actual hell levels do lol

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

@@lobstotsbol I really appreciate that, thank you!! That song does seem to be the one that connects with people the most, I worked pretty hard on it. But yeah, I have a soft-spot for Thy Flesh Consumed, as a whole, but that particular mission does look great and have a really nice atmosphere, especially for Doom 1 standards

[@bigbruhtheorphan9070]

"this map isnt difficult" yeah i get it, i mean i dont but still

[@patrickvasconcelos3001]

Man that is insane xD, the layout of those maps are one of the best I did see. honesty I dont know how there is enough ammo for all of then. a badass run sir.

[@TheJulien57000]

Damn that was a very close cyberdemon's rocket at 3:04 - 3:05 !

[@mk3Howitzer]

Ahhh, I was expecting a much longer wait. Absolutely killed it.

[@tenhundredkills]

I'm still amazed that anyone can memorize these massive Sunder maps, let alone complete a UV-Max speedrun!

[@bro4life8341]

Not really. They're almost all linear but still memorising strats is a feat that shouldn't be overlooked

[@MatrixCL]

It's just a matter of repetition. ;)

[@tenhundredkills]

@@MatrixCL Very true! I feel like I would need MUCH more repetition with Sunder than I would with other slaughter maps just because of their scale.

[@doomfan9319]

@@bro4life8341 Yeah, Insane_Gazebo makes environments look like u could get lost for hours due to massive inaccessible areas and such, but the level progression remains straightforward. I tested on nomo to make sure

[@matthewbolton9878]

How does this man only have 56k subs?

[@khalidsaifullah1321]

I wonder that sometimes Always a trill to see how he plays!! 🤩

[@Legatron17]

Idk why, but for some reason all of these Sunder maps look and sound really satisfying, good job to whoever made them

[@terrytrollface]

It was Insane_Gazebo

[@xshotgunmessage]

Genius level design. This level represents every subcutaneous cut we all experienced

[@Anderyo]

12:46 is epic!!!

[@ninehills42]

You know its an incredible record when it beats the last record by more time than the time of the new record

[@zatozatoichi7920]

God, this WAD looks like an absolute chore. : D

[@bosco4533]

Doom Guy has a plushee of Zero Master on his desk at work..

[@BohdanS15]

I like the gliding part at the beginning, so clever. Keep on playing Sunder, it's epic.

[@Harzexe]

This music cought me off guard a little bit. I had no idea Doom music can be so "dreamy/melodic" 🙂

[@josephtalarigo4243]

It's from Alien Vendetta Map 20, Misri Halek... one of the greatest Doom levels ever made.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@josephtalarigo4243 For its day, maybe.

[@metalvideos1961]

@@josephtalarigo4243 that level is one of the worst in that mod. Just one giant pyramid maze. It's tedious and boring. In fact alien Vendetta is pretty boring after level 10. Still don't understand why people call it an amazing map pack

[@metalvideos1961]

@@pekirt This is an original track written by Chris Laverdure. Nothing to do with Metallica

[@sempersasha]

The picture on 16:41 is worth to be set as a wallpaper!

[@anthonywessels61]

You are a mad man. I watch all the time and didn’t realize I forgot to subscribe. All good now though. Thanks for the awesome videos!!!

[@Ironstarfish]

Great soundtrack and always great to watch

[@vaclavbartek2496]

The one of most epic DOOM map I have seen!

[@PizzaboyRbx]

the fact this is not tool assisted makes it even better!

[@slim_pickins]

More like Zero Error. These playthroughs are mesmerizing.

[@garethdean6382]

Zeromaster, casually halving the record time and telling us it wasn't a good run.

[@jillkimberley]

God you are such a babe, absolutely love watching your runs, amazing x

[@filip000]

Incredible effort again, as usual. Thanks for the great content, mr. Doomguy.

[@dmitriyg1030]

Great level, Great music!! And fantastic run

[@doom4life451]

Improves the previous record by 19 minutes and 46 seconds. Dang... just how much the previous record was unoptimized.

[@khalidsaifullah1321]

😮😮😮

[@dmitriyg1030]

It's all because of glide trick and thus very early getting bfg. Last record was great, don't underestimate. But this...

[@ancalagonsc2192]

Yeah any decent runner can spot a glide by just looking at it, and sometimes checking an editor just to make sure the gap isn't secretly 31 units, but no one wants to bother with doing east glides. The tas runs of this map had the glides tho, and I would guess these glides are exactly the reason no other strong player wanted to ever run this map, it only had a demo by plats who is a very slow player and xantor who is someone I know nothing about.

[@danielja1832]

Well done Zero. Keep it up!

[@jasoncrandall5320]

This level looks like Frasier Crane's apartment

[@metalvideos1961]

One of my favorite custom doom songs

[@aceedcath]

this map music just turn me into frustration and deep voidness (Fight the Logic if you Can)

[@SpacialKatana]

So much time to gain if those last 2 glides played ball. gg wp @Zero Master

[@martymcfly88mph35]

The legend is back

[@stephencharlton9823]

Amazes me how you are so good.

[@DrakeZoa]

This map pack is a lot menacing when you put psx soundpack, it wont replace the music but the monster sounds, weapon and effect sounds are great

[@Flickeralex]

3:05 Always watch out for those unsuspected rockets

[@jermtastic5794]

I feel better knowing even if I made it through all of this, as good as you did, I'd still blow myself up on the LAST imp in the level and ruin the run.

[@lovelesstv]

sunder at it's peak and fast as fuck, nicely done!

[@oj43085]

Arachnotron movement sound and attack sound gives me anxiety.

[@somethingorother5782]

00:15 - that morning poo after eating too much rice for dinner

[@PeterParkerduGlobe]

Impressive ... congrats !!

[@VolcanoPenguin]

How F tier is the Spider Mastermind? You never see it appear this map and it dies. 9:04

[@jikissgamer]

That is the biggest Cacodemon swarm I've ever seen.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Caco clouds abound.

[@BladeTrain3r]

And the monster counts only get more insane from here... I tend to reserve slaughter wads for weapon mods, going through thousands of demons (or for that matter, surviving them) in vanilla, even with a BFG right from the get go, isn't something for me. Kudos to your determination and 1337 d00m3r 5k1ll2 :D

[@zedsdeadbaby]

first impressions of the video: doomguy really really needs to go on a diet

[@nassera]

Zero Master thinks: The map isn't hard - I'm hard.

[@MatheusGomes-ej3mr]

I never played this map, but i'm 100$ sure i have heard this midi somewhere else, cannot remember where it was.

[@ZeroMaster]

it's from the large egyptian themed map in alien vendetta (map 20)

[@IfNedWereHere]

They should have given Doom Guy squeaky sneakers like he’s on a basketball court. Would enhance the movement

[@pehhii]

Interesting to see how big the impact is of the missing Cyberdemon comparing the old and new versions. I'm assuming is going to shave off some seconds, due to infighting.

[@juanchol21]

amazing, as always

[@brosephjames]

It takes me 17 minutes to clear to the back cyberdemon room at the start lol

[@tatamimats]

Amazing work.

[@puppymaster1201]

This game well live forever

[@stephenhowe4107]

I thing I notice about this map: I don't think there are any archviles

[@HeussG09]

The real name of this map is actually "Now Thats What I call Caco: Volume 8"

[@MultiGency]

Me and my best cyberdemon friend speedrunning doom.

[@tallswede80]

what is the method by which he is squeezing through the openings?

[@ivanilayakimova2526]

Looks like level 16 of Doom 2 .Yes.

[@reptongeek]

I read the description first however does that technically mean under the rules it can't have a UV Max/Fast demo like Requiem Level 23: Hatred. You can't kill every monster and you can't collect any secrets because there isn't any

[@BorisAnatolievich]

I think UV-max cathegory rules are abstracting this situation as 100% kills. And if there are no secrets on the level, it automatically counts as 100%, no matter what number the sourceport will output (it may vary between 2 numbers: 0% and 100% in this case). So it's uv-max valid

[@erikapeng8847]

crazy map~~~!

[@chaelcanterbury8787]

Super nice!

[@pnsdkrpndja12177]

why are you not playing the new version?

[@Ennello]

For comparison with the old record

[@jacekbourne]

Excellent.

[@jumppaji]

3:04...hello rocket! What a slaughtery! This map seems to be easier than previous ones..? It's funny how monsters are so slow on vanilla version. I only play on hard RM on BD so these kind of maps are not my cup of tea.

[@jorgebohyn]

Damn, that was a lot of caco.

[@Irvine1992]

13:03 is nothing but red screen... that puckered me up something awful.

[@longandrew2370]

nice

[@The1RandomFool]

Just curious, but howcome you're playing on an old version of Sunder? Is it to keep an even playing field with the old runs?

[@miles00719]

0:44 What?

[@m1xxx3r]

very tight "squeeze glide"

[@thetoxic6863]

How many attempts did this take?

[@aldruhn3]

if you were not in a hurry you could just sit and wait monster infighting do all the work :D

[@naryanr]

_“Improves the previous record by 19 minutes and 46 seconds.”_ You need to change that *“by”* to an *“of”* .

[@ZeroMaster]

this and map 13 haven't seen much activity with only 1 uv max entry, where here it was 37m29s.

[@naryanr]

@@ZeroMaster Woah, holy s***. I stand corrected then.

[@bifidok]

👍

[@doomgod1150]

Are you supposed to glitch through the bars ?

[@brosephjames]

It's a glitch but allowed in uv-max

[@staniskucharski4491]

me 10 seconds into video: No they didnt make the gap 32px... have we learned nothing from this man!

[@kinetic03]

I'm about to make every gap between bars in my maps 31 units wide to troll

[@Ruinen1000]

Chillax steal this map

[@matthewbolton9878]

Hey zero master I have an idea, use the pistol only to complete doom 2, how’s that for an Idea?

[@scarpelli9114]

Yooo

[@elunicocalvo]

Whoever is designing these maps should stop using bars instead of regular doors.

[@StefanReich]

I really don't like this level. Nothing like the architecture and atmosphere other Sunder maps have

[@yessyspronck7483]

666 likes is all you need please dont touch it :D

[@maurikunnas6266]

How do you get bored of Doom eternal, but still play this old classic? :D

[@spookytown7963]

More content in classic doom

[@davidchez513]

Find a map in Doom Eternal with 2500 enemies ...

[@M18-v4t]

Now do this in a pacifist run lol

[@doomguy9330]

1:48 haha 420 very funny number haha....