Doom II: Sunder - Map 17 (Archives of the Technomancer) UV-Max in

[@insanegazebo]

Yeah there's no way I'm going to be done making 21 before you've finished these :D Seriously fun to see you find all these little things that were missed during testing etc. (I'm also glad to hear that the crusher maze isn't actually too bad. It was a bit of a last minute addition to replace a much worse idea and I always felt a little guilty about it.)

[@hansolo631]

It's shocking watching him work these maps over

[@paillave]

yep, and right now, I see that instead of working on map21 on twitch, you are watching youtube! That's not the way U'll improve your pace! :)

[@humanbeing_]

The crusher maze has been the bane of existence of *SO MANY* Doom players lol Out of curiosity, what's the ETA on 21 anyway IG? Any idea, _roughly_ , at this point?

[@ZeroMaster]

I didn't expect to be able to get through these at basically the same pace as old sunder, heh. Of course when it's primarily a focus on survival instead of some time goal it evens out a bit. And yeah I have to admit I used to think the crusher maze was one of the worst parts in sunder, but now the combination of having to be aware of the crushers and trying to get through quickly while knowing how to manage ammo makes it a enjoyable fight to me. Then again most people might only play it once :D And as for the little things missed during testing... I've got some very interesting strategies for one of the upcoming levels :)

[@wxndxx]

@insanegazebo omg, will you show at a stream the first version of what ended up being the crusher section? just like final fight of map 20 (if you have that backup, heh)

[@hajkie]

One thing i like about these maps is not only the complexity, but the height of the maps too, they truly do look massive.

[@mja2317]

One of the things I love about Sunder and mapsets like it is how utterly gargantuan and cavernous its maps can feel. Like this one really feels like hell's biggest library. Even modern triple A games can't match this for sheer scale.

[@f1f1s]

Blackreach in Skyrim?..

[@turtleusa353]

It's kinda sad that that's true

[@thalligator016]

Yeah it's fucking menacing. Makes you feel so tiny in a bizarre world of strange hellish (or even more otherworldly) constructions. It's such a deep art and I hope insanegazebo never stops creating these maps. My all-time favorites are maps 09, 10, 11, 15, 31, 17, 18, 19, 20 which all belong to the most epic gaming experiences I've ever had.

[@alejandro604]

Does this wad have any history?

[@dhirendrapsingh6758]

Informative. Useful. Calming. Inspiring. Life-changing. Enjoyable. Heart-warming. Other.

[@johnarmstrong5533]

The verticality in this map is incredible - it feels like the space is truly colossal and could keep extending out of sight forever. It's a clever gag to start the player off outdoors, and then once they finally finish the first fight, to reveal how the archives are on a scale that utterly eclipses the canyon you started in.

[@maxilew1227]

This man is GOD OF DOOM.

[@sempersasha]

The god is who creates. For example, Okuplok or InsaneGazebo. Zero Master is like a superhero.

[@dangman1503]

@@sempersasha I mean technically a god is also defined as a a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes I know ur just correcting and that’s aight but cmooon where’s the fun in that :D

[@sempersasha]

@@dangman1503 Ok, I don't insist. I just wrote my understanding of the analogy with a god.

[@CaptainSteveable]

Oh christ, he's blitzing through these marathon maps

[@williamnone]

Well this is the most Christian game in all of gaming history. lol

[@yawg691]

I dunno if anyone ever tells you, but THANK YOU for doing an analysis of your run in the description. I love reading each and every one :)

[@popgas3821]

Sunder's terrifyingly amazing map soundtrack.

[@Harzexe]

I totally agree! The song makes me wanna catJam 👁👄👁

[@costco_pizza]

@@Harzexe The Archives of the Technomancer is widely considered to the BEST song in all of Doom.

[@donjuandinero]

This one is a slowed version of Mark Klem's "Simple Solutions"

[@ryanw9985]

27:34 stuff that proves it's not a TAS - holy shit when you fell down and then rage-shelled the wall like it was somehow its fault, I fucking died my dude, great stuff

[@landoncore92]

The legend continues to grow. Love it so much man.

[@franzkaiser9553]

27:35 since we never see any of your fails in the super optimized runs of short maps, its just funny to see how you took the time to shoot the wall after the failed jump

[@jamesgillum9604]

I'm so impressed by the sheer scale of this map, especially vertically - it absolutely feels like a aeons-old archive of information

[@Harzexe]

I really appreciate passion you put into this game. I am planning on grabbing some snacks and watching the whole thing ☺️

[@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon]

The music, the map, the run, all of it! Mind-blowing. Can't get enough of this stuff! 😃

[@carlafalasca4514]

Bro the Midi Track in this slaps hard!!!

[@9876abc]

A truly epic challenge! Congrats Zero Master!!

[@mikehonda7934]

Funny how all of these years, decades, and the only thing Doom Guy has said was, “uhh (trying to open a door), “hah hah hah uhhh “ ( getting shot up by a Heavy Weapons Dude) “haaaahhh” (when he got killed by an Imp) , and DAAAAAAHHHHH!!!” (When a Cyberdemon killed him with a rocket).

[@bennyhillarious]

I love such spacey maps with cyberdemons. They work like long range artillery support.

[@Saver310]

BABE WAKE THE FUCK UP ZERO MASTER UPLOADED

[@kaczan3]

This video keeps me sane when I working overtime.

[@ardag1439]

1 hour and 38 minutes of Zero Master? What did I do in life to deserve this wonderful gift?

[@DiamantisGR]

Incredible run... as usual. Crazy strats end even crazier execution.

[@pehhii]

Good guy Zero Master, being a consistent QA for Sunder, such a nice gesture. :D

[@thinkforyourself2109]

Whoever made this map is a true artist. It's the world's largest library! Beautiful to watch.

[@thinkforyourself2109]

I'm glad the rockets don't destroy the books! :)

[@edwells4769]

Imagine the arcane knowledge held here

[@fjb4008]

I really liked this map! Great work dude

[@TheLadyBugg8]

I have to say, I like Zero Master's Doom runs the best! I like how there's actually a strategy to the gameplay, especially taking calculated advantage of the infighting to help wipe all the enemies out. Anyway great job!!!

[@roofisdoomplaythroughsondo5801]

An ordinary day when the doomguy goes to the public library to look for his favorite comic book

[@atifarshad7624]

lol

[@DasPanoptikum]

I wonder if Obi-Wan Kenobi visited the Archives of the Technomancer and said "Impossible. Perhaps the Archives Are Incomplete."

[@TheStylesjl]

Archives of the Technomancer, my favourite looking map of Sunder. Should be interesting now to see maps 18 to 20, I haven't seen those ones yet.

[@HmmHmm-ve7ou]

Map 18 was done by A1s several weeks ago.

[@patrickyork3253]

The Technomancer has huge archives. I guess he never has a dull day.

[@HeussG09]

I remember feeling very bittersweet when Zero Master posted the final old Sunder map UV Max record since it was an awesome accomplishment to watch, but I knew new Sunder would be too much. I have now learned to never, ever doubt the doomgod Zero Master again! We aren't worthy!

[@humanbeing_]

Ugh.......... WHAT?!?!.... I just sat down to have coffee to rewatch 31 & then 16 (Thinking no way 17 is out yet this wonderful Saturday morning) but then in the bottom corner of the browser window under the video, I happen to see the words "DOOM, Sunder, Map 17" 👀 _CLICK ON THE VIDEO_ 🤣 Damn dude. GG ZM. I can't say enough how enjoyable it's been watching you work so to speak. The strategies you execute are things myself as a mortal Doomer wouldn't conceive yet. I'm just not on that level of figuring things out, so it's genuinely fun watching these maps being played completely differently than most other times I've watched them be run. 👍

[@ZeroMaster]

cheers, the best is yet to come when it comes to interesting strategies :D

[@napozoulou7353]

«Another one of those moments where I just hope I die at some point so nobody has to see it.» Haha, it reminds me of a comment in one of stxvile's demo where he said he felt bad for some face rockets during the run (I think it was his UVMAX for HR map 24) ; well, I like when runs contain such small mistakes. It shows that even high skilled players can make errors and that everything can not always go as planned by the runner. It's almost reassuring in a way, it reminds us that you are human after all ! Anyway, another great run ! You said you wouldn't publish demos as often as when you did Old Sunder, but actually you're quite fast at conquering New Sunder ! And I'm very happy with that, always a pleasure to see one of your demos uploaded. Thanks a lot for all your efforts !

[@tenhundredkills]

Best library-themed map ever!

[@Legatron17]

23:23 I love how the Cyberdemon shoots at you synchronous to the music :D

[@_antares031]

Unstoppable.

[@zatozatoichi7920]

Huge props for the ungodly amount of patience! Even watching it is tiring. : D

[@ablayhappy8969]

Oh, Sunder! And 5219 kills. Nice!

[@PeteFinn]

That library sure has a lot of books!

[@garrigtr5378]

Контроль карты, моё почтение! ))

[@m.b.6129]

Beside the Zero Master signature killing strategy i adore the old school Soundtrack in this map. Soooo cool , won't get Out of my head.....

[@youngsplitterr]

Amazing as always.

[@GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq]

Awesome Doom Map brother

[@Z1nZin]

1000th like

[@davidkiss8845]

I was stuck on the crusher maze for days now until I found out the best way to deal with it is just running straight to the other corner where the yellow key is located. After that it only took me a couple attempts. I'm glad I did not spoil the strategy for myself by watching this video first haha. I don't like resorting to extensive savescumming or looking up other players' strats. GG.

[@slinky_malinki5330]

Zero Master really is on an almost inhuman level of skill when it comes to Doom. It's incredible really.

[@blob1024]

1:26:15 the fun begins

[@unclebobboomergames]

Watching you play doom like visual poetry. One day i will doomtube. I want to so bad

[@xylem0195]

lol I gotta say this is the most metal trip to the library I've ever seen.

[@DasPanoptikum]

A bookshelf with the K-O-R-A-X books from Hexen would be a nice easter egg for this map

[@reptongeek]

The final battle was interesting as you had about 2000 enemies to go and 20 minutes to kill them I'm going to put this out there, nobody is doing a UV max movie of the completed WAD. At this rate it would (literally) take all day

[@paillave]

He's on fire

[@TelethaTestarossa]

>From my first playthrough some time ago I mostly remembered the crushers... can't imagine anyone getting to this part and enjoying it the first time. Decino is somewhere smiling bitterly at this line

[@markushavens8669]

This is the only map I have ever seen just completely break Decino's will to play. I do think things would have went differently if he had started this map fresh though. Hard to focus after 7+ hours of streaming these maps. The fatigue alone makes it hard not to go full tilt when you run into a wall like he did at the crusher section.

[@C0achMcgurk]

The last part of the map is really the best and most challenging. What it needs though is to have some shotgun dudes or pinkys to spawn every once in a while behind the player at the edge of the map where he was funelling them to make it more intense and/or add some Archvilles in the mix to make it pointless to stay in that place.

[@doom4life451]

10 minutes ago, I was also playing this map but with IDDQD enabled. What is even happening ZM, you keep on maxing these behemoth of maps in a matter of couple of days.

[@TechPlanetMusic]

First sound is the Cyberdemon waking up, you know it's going to be hard.

[@conzmoleman]

What a stud

[@someonesvagabond]

Another "holy shit that's cool" map into my fictional collection.

[@danieldaring9032]

22:20 Haha, Caco made you bring out the chain gun.

[@carsonmoore4662]

The GOAT

[@danilo.castelli]

I always talked shit about my daughter watching Roblox videos until I found DOOM videos.

[@XCenturionX]

All those books to read!

[@wuziq]

that's a lot of books. i've said this before but your spatial memory must be huge

[@catstealer419dominion7]

Gorgeous map

[@av6728]

"I just wanted to check out a copy of Windows 98 for Dummies"

[@EliotMcLellan]

ITS GOT THAT 70S VIBER

[@johneygd]

Well that’s aloooot of demon flesh to consume,holy hell🥲

[@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon]

That's errrr..... a lotta books!

[@aceedcath]

cacodemons like an autumn leafs

[@EstellaVanKolck]

Cyberdemon-Archvile triggerskip!

[@thalligator016]

Hey ZM, just a question. At around 0:36 you do a certain linedef skip which I absolutely don't understand how you did that. I figured the bars of that arena are closing when walking across the first step of the plasma gun pedestal. But crossing the highest linedef of that platform makes the enemies spawn in. How in the freaking world were you able to skip that linedef that closes the arena but still start the fight? I know this isn't even that hard of a fight to be cheesed but that skip still amazed me a lot.

[@ZeroMaster]

someone already asked, I'll copy paste the answer: "the edge of the platform have linedefs that close the barriers, if doomguys center is close to the linedef and moves over 16 units per tic than the linedef will not be activated as the 32x32 unit box never overlaps with the linedef after crossing it. So in this case I use a specific angle, use the fastest movement technique called SR50 and run along the block so that I get both the correct position (getting close to the linedef without crossing it) and having enough speed (at least 16 units per tic) while doing it on both of the linedefs." so I skip the linedef that closes the arena twice, but not the linedef that spawns in the monster with the setup I used

[@thalligator016]

@@ZeroMaster thank you so much for that info!

[@VsevolodTokmakov93]

these demons seem to have a short shelf life.

[@steveskipper6473]

Right off the bat how did you keep the barriers from rising (which would prevent you from re-entering the safe start area) after picking up the Plasma riffle in the very first fight?

[@ZeroMaster]

the edge of the platform have linedefs that close the barriers, if doomguys center is close to the linedef and moves over 16 units per tic than the linedef will not be activated as the 32x32 unit box never overlaps with the linedef after crossing it. So in this case I use a specific angle, use the fastest movement technique called SR50 and run along the block so that I get both the correct position (getting close to the linedef without crossing it) and having enough speed (at least 16 units per tic) while doing it on both of the linedefs.

[@steveskipper6473]

@@ZeroMaster Thank you for you concise answer. I should have never doubted your skills and shall proceed watching the rest of the video safe in the knowledge that I am just but a mortal DOOM fan!

[@Final-Ts]

@@ZeroMaster Holy moly, your understanding/knowledge of this game is unique and impressive.

[@kaczan3]

Very nice music!

[@DarkAlinn]

Where can i find these extra maps of doom II?

[@ZeroMaster]

sunder can be found here: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-map20-appears-finally/ , other levels here generally: www.doomworld.com/idgames/ just need a copy of doom2 wad file from gog or steam and download the dsda-doom sourceport from here: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v0241/ or other sourceports like gzdoom etc.

[@DarkAlinn]

@@ZeroMaster thanks!

[@andreyp5764]

I think Zero Master is not a human, it is something like trained AI))

[@Drrck11]

All those books. Is that the Doom :Library? 😄📗📘📙📖📔📚📚

[@leafgreensniper13]

That’s a lot of books.

[@Gil-Cochavy]

Zero Master, I must to say Decino made a live-stream and he mention that even you can't to pass map17, but you proved him else!

[@Gil-Cochavy]

On this map he just told about the crashers room that has lack of health and random crasher, and even you cannot pass it. But now on your video you proved us it like a bullshit.

[@markushavens8669]

This map did in fact break Decino. Should probably be noted though that his attempts on this map were after he had already been streaming for like 7+ hours straight on the previous maps. I am sure fatigue played a bit of a role in Decino's mental state falling apart at the crusher section.

[@mikeywest2007]

@@markushavens8669 i did watch that.........i know he made a rule about not save scumming but yes it did break him and end up having to break his own rule just to cross the line. I wonder if he will come back to this map and try again

[@asdgashash]

Technomancer should have known better than adding TAG script to his collection.

[@test-rj2vl]

Makes me wonder, can you make no hit tas run for Sunder like you did for Okuplok? How much time that would even take?

[@ibitz.]

i like books too

[@dougcarey2233]

What is killing the Spider Masterminds so quickly at the beginning? I can hear them going, but can't see them.

[@corbenya]

This map is like watching anger people becoming friends. After all, what good is a BFG if it doesn't attack 9000 times 😂

[@ar_xiv]

Doom guy as sheep herder

[@mono4643]

I get why he called himself Zero Master now. Zero means overlord in an ancient demonic language. He is secretly the demon's master thus they ratherr infight than fight him!

[@lobonegro1023]

where can I get the wad please thanks 🙏

[@doomguy8235]

🔥

[@tsilver9007]

Btw, are you going to cheese half (or something closer to it) of map 19 just like you did with map 16?

[@ZeroMaster]

yup :)

[@tsilver9007]

@@ZeroMaster Holy ... that's gonna be awesome to see. You should be Insane Gazebo's official tester :D

[@danieldaring9032]

37:37 Homie took 6 rockets...

[@C0achMcgurk]

A bit too much ammo on this difficulty setting it seems.

[@williamnone]

How many more innocent demons must you kill before you are satisfied Zero Master? HOW MANY??

[@garrettk7166]

His blood hunger is insatiable.

[@the_dark_one6052]

I mean, how many books do these demons need?

[@keentrasborg2566]

Don't judge, maybe they think they can find a friend in one of them >:(

[@deathwishh_2870]

В первом бою лучше покинуть пределы сражения, потому что я сам переигрывал это место много раз и всегда время получалось примерно таким же. Так что смысла в беге вокруг арены на время нету, если конечно вам это не доставляет ни какого удовольствия.

[@tanmars]

The scenery is very beautiful but there are too many demons.

[@asrarislam8783]

Wtf is with all those tomatoes!! 🍅

[@Jacco_Prins]

Next stop The singing void. I think that one is not that hard compared to the other new sunder maps

[@LowEnd31st]

Song?

[@M0bilD]

It's an original track from an older wad called STRAIN.

[@sergioruiz15]

Hello sir do you happen to be a streamer?