Doomscrolling to Enlightenment -Watch this video If you think you can find Nirvana on social media

[@Flying_Basil]

Thank you so much for this video. My girlfriend and I are coming to terms with our phone addiction. There's two distinct versions of this situation for us. She is hooked on mostly positive, funny, short form content. My addiction is on dark, negative, in depth news about the world. I know a lot of empathetic people who fall into the trap of feeling something like, that they must learn about every person out there who's suffering, and suffer alongside with them until there is no more suffering in the world. A mental trap that says, I cannot allow myself to be happy, while there is so much injustice and so many others are suffering. It's a trap that has kept me down for many years, but that I am grateful to be moving away from.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Hello friend I feel for you and although for both of you it's a difficult situation and the most difficult is the negative stuff so be careful. Look out for yourself and if you recognise any tendencies for nihilism and that is a really important wake up. Call all the best friend.♥♥♥

[@nameless-yd6ko]

It appears that as human intellect plummets, most need a 'phone/tracking device' to think for them.

[@knarxr]

we gettin outta samsara with this one 🔥💯

[@ultimatemeaning]

Let's go! ♥

[@aHeroWith1000Names]

Lol!

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@aHeroWith1000Names lmbao

[@MKatyOK]

😆

[@AJ-bf1gz]

That we are. 😂

[@memesmojo5622]

Protip for anyone who wants to spend less time on their phone : turn on grayscale mode. It will make everything gray and so you will naturally find the phone more boring and less stimulating

[@ultimatemeaning]

Hey, that's a great idea. I'm glad you mentioned it.♥

[@MKatyOK]

Thank you!

[@EliseSecond]

Didn't work for me. I actually prefer watching the grayscale screen 😂It does stimulate less, so it's nicer to read now.

[@renaigh]

the human mind is quick to correct a perceived mistake then admit they might have a problem.

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@MKatyOK ♥♥♥

[@SacredSilence-OG]

I can feel your love for humanity and it almost makes me want to cry

[@ultimatemeaning]

♥You obviously have empathy ♥

[@waiataaroha]

realx

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@waiataaroha ♥♥♥

[@OpenSourceAnarchist]

Thank you as always. Theory without practice just leads to paralysis and perfectionism trying to find "the best" path out, when doing so only hinders progress.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yeah, this is a really good point. We have to go beyond theory.♥♥♥

[@odinskiodinski9624]

Your videos are a treasure trove of profound insights! It will probably not be the last video i'll look up or watch even today. But you've made painfully obvious, what is an objective problem in my behaviour. Thank you!

[@LisaSidels]

OMG im having this problem big time!!!! I stopped watching tv only to replace it with you tube!! And now i have this need to constantly check on the ascension. Because i cant see it happening in my everyday world. Am i just falling for a psy op????

[@ultimatemeaning]

Hi Lisa, we are all looking for something to life more bearable, and media preys on our desperation, but please understand that you possess everything you need to find the peace you desire ♥

[@franzhaas5597]

I really like the saltwater analogy. People grasp things that are impermanent, just leaving themselves feeling empty inside. It's like trying to fill a bottomless pit. No one bothered to ever think to throw themselves in the pit. LOL! This was a very important video.📿🙏

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yes, Franz desire is in exhaustible, This is part of the reason why our our system is bound to fail.

[@franzhaas5597]

@ultimatemeaning you got that right😬

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@franzhaas5597 ♥♥♥

[@blair871]

Absolutely love this presentation. Thank you Lama Choga.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Glad to provide some inspiration Blair ♥♥♥

[@DenisCrouzel]

I consider a blessing to have found your channel! Keep on challenging us, go Tilopa! I feel a real spiritual friend doing precious Dharma work. May the ultimate nature of phenomena, limitless mind beyond extremes, be realised 🙏🙏🙏

[@waiataaroha]

He is not Tilopa .... chill

[@ultimatemeaning]

Thanks for your support Denis it really helps me remain focused! ♥♥♥

[@DenisCrouzel]

Hi, "Tilopa style" hence challenging was meant! Sorry if I was unclear for everyone, I am French, so my usage of the English language might be challenging for the reader! But it is said that the guru is always the same : Śūnyatā and through a qualified Lama with authentic foundation you may receive Blessings from the lineage! Anyway... m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5PPnWVnjbCYkKs Blessings Dharma friend 🙏🙏🙏

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@DenisCrouzel d'accord

[@WaterholeExchange]

Pop goes the bubble! I have found myself reminding myself that the answer is within myself. Namaste.

[@ultimatemeaning]

That's it friend! ♥

[@matsalesfl]

I think I cling to diverse books, texts, personal reports (Reddit) and video essays (KZbin) in search of answers. I believe I have some (at least theoretical) understanding of the Dharma, but I admit lately I have been feeling a thirst for guidance; not necessarily a teacher with a big following though (6:15). 😄 Thank you for the video and the effort, you do have a point.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Once you feel you have theoretical understanding then its time to apply it to contemplation and see if anything stirs ♥♥♥

[@mysterynewsbrasil]

Fantastic video! Thank you. Very sobering thoughts. I've been trying to reconnect with my spiritual practices lately (different kinds of meditations, yoga...), and I've noticed that my algorithm started to show a lot of spiritual stuff again. I've come to the conclusion that consuming "spiritual content" on the internet can actually make you very anxious, and wreak havoc on your routines and practices. You got a new subscriber. :)

[@ultimatemeaning]

Ah! I see you got the point, yes this is certainly the case for many of us. So glad to hear that you are getting back to your "core" practice! ♥♥♥

[@thechosenwon6762]

Synchronisation with myself and your videos honestly moves me

[@ultimatemeaning]

I am so glad to hear that I could be of some benefit to you to be honest. It makes it a lot easier to keep posting videos on KZbin.♥♥♥

[@donellacurley4941]

Thank you Lama. So true your words! Guilty, in so many ways but a bit different. Silence sometimes bothers me, anxiety to a degree, if too much silence. I do crave listening to Buddhist teachings amongst other views of spiritual paths, (enough to know that Buddhism is my final road.) I found you on You tube, it was the best move I have made in years! Oh, there are some of those billionaire losers out there who suck the life out of seekers for money and fame, who really pays in the end, seeker looking for truth or the one selling spirituality? The silence on one hand is a gift that has been given for spiritual attainment, to use wisely. I too have been foolish, wasted precious moments.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yeah, for sure that saltwater is really addictive♥♥♥

[@donellacurley4941]

@@ultimatemeaning saltwater, depending on salinity can be death as with most addictions. 🚱❤❤❤

[@arihacks471]

This is such a powerful message, thank you 🙏

[@ultimatemeaning]

Thanks for the high praise friend 🙏🙏🙏

[@norfolkyeti]

So true, never watch tv, movies are just seen as programming too, but KZbin gave me choice to feed the grasping. Lesson taken thank you ❤❤❤

[@ultimatemeaning]

🙏🙏🙏 Welcome

[@andreamarr7213]

Just before he died, Timothy Leary predicted that the internet would become the “next” addiction. Quite remarkable as it was in its infancy at that time, I think. For years I observed others and wondered at their obsession with their phones. It then happened to me, during the pandemic. I now find myself struggling with an actual addiction. Feeling that sense of emptiness and self loathing, guilt and shame for a behavior I seem to have no control over. I thought this presentation was quite timely as I was in the middle of mindless scrolling when it popped up.

[@ultimatemeaning]

I saw this current trend coming in about 1994 I wanted to script a documentary about it, too bad I didn't have a KZbin channel then, and then I could say "You see! I told you so!"😆🤣😆

[@Unknown_Touch_]

Thank you so much for this. I've been putting off reading lamrim for a while knowing full well it has everything I need to better my life, so you nudged someone at least to go study! Also I personally prefer your videos without background music, but that's just me Bless your heart, have a nice day on your end🙏

[@ultimatemeaning]

How wonderful "Lamrim" is the entire path, you have understood the point of the video friend! 🙏🙏🙏

[@jamesdavies719]

I quite liked the addition of music, it felt a bit strange at first, perhaps just because it's different. I had just finished meditating when I started this video, but when you told me to put down my phone I felt like I might as well do a few more minutes lol. Thank you as always 🙏

[@ultimatemeaning]

That's the way James, you got it! ♥♥♥ Anyway the smartphone is more interesting after meditation ♥♥♥

[@jacksonm4247]

Just got off of a little bit of doomscrolling myself… KZbin was getting personal with this one. I appreciate it

[@ultimatemeaning]

I am glad to have been of service friend 🙏🙏🙏

[@Chase-yf7lu]

Its a medium that can have some benefit just as reading does. Documentaries for example can be beneficial in showing different aspects and lenses people have in life. Its all about being responsible in what you consume and allow yourself to experience. While meditation is important if there wasn't education in some form then I don't think youd truly be able to benefit all sentient beings that effectively. Its always good to build up a foundation before expanding or even going beyond it. Even in the Tibetan tradition education is seen as important and to be honest some religious traditions and beliefs such as limiting yourself from certain modern amenities like electricity for example has no purpose. Technology is something that must be understood and utilized to progress humanity and fundamentally transform lives. If it is ignored by those with good outlooks and intent it will inevitably lead to a dystopia being created. They key is simply being wise with ones own decisions.

[@dunawam]

Thank you for sharing this, very bright. And see you later.

[@ultimatemeaning]

♥♥♥And thank you for participating♥♥♥

[@AlwaysPossible100]

Thanks for this, quite a few things resonate with me here.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Glad to hear it friend ♥♥♥

[@Apollyon_Autumn]

Amazingly said as always ❤

[@ultimatemeaning]

respect, my friend 🙏🙏🙏

[@tomking5290]

Love your videos Lama Choga!

[@ultimatemeaning]

Thanks Tom that is very touching 🙏🙏🙏

[@gwojcieszczuk]

While ago I realized that nothing in this world brings permanent satisfaction. Those things only temporarily bring some relief to craving, but the craving continues to persist.

[@ultimatemeaning]

In many ways this increases clinging slowly until we become overwhelmed 🙏🙏🙏

[@ninaallchurch3101]

The upside is all of us from across the world can communicate with each other. As long as we can control repetitive mindless scrolling, it's great to communicate with kindred spirits with similar interests. I prefer Facebook to share useful info with friends.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yes Nina mindfulness is the key!

[@clan-ki7dm]

When we are frustrated we go outward and look outward. Doomscroling When we are calm,relaxed,happy and blissful we go inward and look inward. Enlightenment. Or bodhi,nirvana is sanskrit. if you frustrate then trying to look outward is like pouring more fuel in your frustration and making it even more worse. When you are frustrated you should look inward.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yes, fuel on the fire or more layers of darkness!

[@concreteshamanism]

Thank you for this talk. ❤❤❤

[@ultimatemeaning]

Welcome friend ♥♥♥

[@samsarasuplex]

Thanks for the reminder.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Wecome friend ! 🙏🙏🙏

[@maha-madpedo-gayphukumber1533]

Searching outside of you is Samsara (the world which includes social media). Searching within you leads to Nirvana/enlightenment. Endless doomscroling(looking outside)to the one's death is same as samsara's ending cycle of endless redeath, birth ,death and rebirth. Looking within is enlightenment and nirvana.

[@ultimatemeaning]

♥♥♥

[@paulmorin1286]

VERY INTERESTING MEDITATION, THANK YOU.

[@ultimatemeaning]

♥♥♥

[@nellymurkthewitch]

You know you've hit that rock bottom when you think your only way out is through enlightenment 🔥 Although, it is funny how we only seem to care about spiritual freedom when things become unbearable. Is it a common thing? When things are moderately okay you don't even think about it, you just live. I know it's all silly because deep inside I know I'm probably not ready. Although, I do believe I've healed quite a bit. Now accepting and wanting love and intimacy after years of being terrified of it. From years of believing I was unlovable to finally opening up and being authentic, even when it's cringe or weird. Mundane things can change us more than anything. For me, poetry became a spiritual experience. It's like I had so many blocks and barriers inside of my mind it took me ages to undo them. And now I look at my writing, compulsive, chaotic, raw, messy, just like the things that live inside that fevered mind of mine. But amongst that brain-vomit there are little gems of truth popping up here and there. All good poetry asks a question without providing an answer. I wish to one day grow past the words.

[@au9parsec]

I grew up during a time when only a very few people had cable TV since I was born in the early eighties.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yeah we didn't get it until about 1984 ♥♥♥

[@_jamesdphillips]

I know when your channel shows up in my feed that the algorithm is, not so subtly, trying to give me a hint. Like the bouncer in a casino occasionally approaching and hinting that you DO have the option of leaving now and again. Well- anyways on to the next video, see you again in another couple weeks. Thanks for the reminder!

[@ultimatemeaning]

Lolz James, love the analogy! 🙏🙏🙏

[@RediscoveringApril44]

Trying to deal with this myself

[@ultimatemeaning]

ditto

[@johnbolton292]

I enjoy my doom scrolling. It often gives me a moment to think of less. But I was just listening to the song Instant Crush by Daft Punk with my eye closed and my mind open. I saw myself and others on a lazy river, men and women, and we were resting in a natural state with eyes closed. Where we were exactly is hard to say, though we spent our time blissfully, for certain works were done and it was time to take time for other things.

[@ultimatemeaning]

We meditate with eyes open 🙏🙏🙏

[@samribis1493]

The teachers voice rings with truth Our mind searches for truth. But only the world can show us. Are chains broke samsara we are free. But not at the bottom of our screens.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Thanks for the poetic interpose 🙏🙏🙏

[@samribis1493]

@@ultimatemeaning your words always inspire

[@DivineAlchemyOfSouls]

my enlightened friend, i became enlightened through the people i’ve discovered through “social media.”; what is life if not a social game where we share physical and metaphysical media? So you can find gnosis through social media is probably what i should say… but nirvana itself comes from putting the knowledge you gain into the life you live; it comes from living in the INDIVIDUAL truth instead of the COLLECTIVE lie/LIFE we all live, it is miserable living with lies which is why all inevitably want to leave the cycle… personally i love it; been here a little tooooo long though.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Oh I am not enlightened but it is kind of you to say so nonetheless♥♥♥

[@DivineAlchemyOfSouls]

@ Stop being so humble, to be evil is to be ignorant; you say you are not enlightened which is why you are not so, I AM.

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

@@DivineAlchemyOfSouls Good luck.

[@DivineAlchemyOfSouls]

@ im crazy

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@DivineAlchemyOfSouls aren't we all a little bit?

[@Kheni11]

Thanks for the great video! I'm watching this and thinking that at least some places in the east are through taking in foreigners who think themselves to be enlightened in whatever way they see it. I've always been interested in the deep thinking aspect of the universe of mind since a young age and taught some of my friends how to 'find wisdom instead of smarts' which seems to be the way nowadays. Do you think there's a chance that I'd be accepted into places to learn about how to awaken to the reality of nirvana (in the long run) and where would I start?

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yes many places that used to readily accept Westerners are now quite cautious, but my feeling is that anyone who is sincere and persistent can find a viable pathway (this is my personal experience at least). Why not contact me DM at one of the links on the homepage? I need to know a few things like "the country you live in " and "your longterm goals" to advise you better 🙏🙏🙏

[@levi5468]

Love❤

[@ultimatemeaning]

🙏🙏🙏

[@fedorkochemasov4533]

The choice of music on this one is immaculate, can you share the tracks?

[@ultimatemeaning]

Okay, I'll see if I can do that. It's all royalty free music provided by KZbin. I think you have a good idea there. I should copy the information into the description. Thanks for the advice.♥♥♥

[@critter5248]

chanting on beads helps with this in a mechanical manner, as the scrolling is taking advantage of motion that we don't have to work hard for, we just move our fingers while the electricity works, so developing strong chanting with bead movement helps us form that pleasure-work connection with our own voice/names/mantras (not in an egoic way, but like, so sound isnt dukkha to us when we hear it repeated, but it actually becomes more nourishing)

[@ultimatemeaning]

Excellent suggestion friend! Yes mantra is a great remedy for Doomscrolling 🙏🙏🙏

[@xavierdeltoro2886]

so excited for this!!!

[@ultimatemeaning]

Hope to see you♥

[@AzmialPrime]

Social media almost killed me. 😂

[@ultimatemeaning]

yeah no kidding, I am glad you are still with us (the Bois will be glad too!)

[@sonjalingchungtsang1097]

❤

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@sonjalingchungtsang1097 ♥♥♥

[@cryptsub]

I was already 100% sure that I wouldn't find enlightenment on the interweb.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yeah, the video is more about our tendency to seek in instant gratification and our spiritual materialism. But many people spend more time searching KZbin for videos on spirituality than they do on their practice.♥

[@cryptsub]

@@ultimatemeaning I'm not sure if I've ever experienced even partial enlightenment (if that's a thing), but if I have if would have been when I wasn't expecting it. Thanks for your channel!

[@aHeroWith1000Names]

Thank you for reminding to stop scrolling for today. Also, the title of this video is really catchy, on par with shitposting for Buddha😂 Hopefully more people sees this!

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yeah it is kind of a tossup between trying to get peoples attention and trying to deliver a meaningful message. If I can get the balance right then it will be beneficial for more people but if I get it wrong it will just become a shit show.😆🤣😆Thanks to you. I just came up with the title for the next video.😆🤣😆

[@shadowoffire4307]

One who look outside dreams. One who looks inside awakens Doomscroling on phone and social media is endless dreaming like dogs chasing it's own tail. Lookings inside is not only short cut to nirvana but it is one and only way for nirvana

[@ultimatemeaning]

🙏🙏🙏

[@milkmanswife93696]

hey, thanks for the video. please leave the background music out. much love.

[@Skiz676]

I love this monk’s videos like you wouldn’t believe

[@ultimatemeaning]

Gee I am flattered friend! ♥♥♥

[@alcosmic]

We must each learn to doomscroll our own hearts

[@alcosmic]

with compassion

[@ultimatemeaning]

Hear hear!♥♥♥

[@JeenReet]

The instant gratification, the quickly fading rush of pleasure "doomscrolling" gives is horrible for so many mental abilities like the attention span and I feel like it hinders one's ability to achieve Enlightment like no other. It may be compared to very addictive drugs really, most other activities, other dalliances, they would at least require some sort of mental or physical activity, some struggle to achieve pleasure which might not be directly fruitful but would at least help us still stay principled somewhat, unlike the "doomscrolling" that gives you very short lasting pleasure with the flick of a finger and makes one numb and unable to step out of the comfort zone.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Its like some kind of fever or gastric illness! ♥♥♥

[@madhur7]

Thank you

[@ultimatemeaning]

My pleasure ♥

[@sugarfree1894]

They used to play the national anthem on BBC when they switched it off around midnight or so (that was on BBC2, the Open University). I find all sorts of interesting things, but it's meaningless really.

[@ultimatemeaning]

I used to love watching openUNi! ♥♥♥

[@SacredSilence-OG]

I will be watching this thanks

[@ultimatemeaning]

Look forward to seeing you there, friend♥

[@LaetareIerusalem]

That's it in one video ...: the errand way each and every time until I return to now. Exact description.

[@SteveTheGhazaRooster]

Thank you sir! I would recommend an anime called "serial experiments lain" it covers this subject. Its about a young girl that finds "god" through the internet. However, she almost makes the mistake of mistaking god, with the devil. Aka spiritual enlightenment. I found my nirvana through the internet. I am forever thankful of the pain ive been given in my life. Discomfort breeds strength. May the spirit move through all of us. Many thanks 😊❤

[@ultimatemeaning]

HEY thanks for the tip, i'll check it out ♥♥♥

[@SteveTheGhazaRooster]

@ultimatemeaning it is very trippy so to speak :0 it's definitely out there. Try and take it all, with a fine grain of salt :) it gets pretty raw into the human condition also. I hope it gives some perspective into the youth and what their trials and tribulations are. Best of luck on the path 👍🙏

[@nordlanderpolitics]

Could you do a video on the Tibetan society, and how Buddhism can be manipulated to support feudal practices?

[@nothinghere1996]

Enlightenment. To be filled with Light. Have you seen this light? it is unique.

[@AEN8pi]

Here's a take. By doom scrolling you can see al types of behavioural manifestations. You can take what you see in doom scrolling to understand why people are the way that they are. You can even try to observe the behaviours you have a reaction towards in yourself. If you reject doom scrolling or reject anything how can you be part of the whole?

[@mileidyclass]

There are people who get addicted to real life gore content too, some of which can be found through social media too, sadly. This kind of content can either be easy to find or hard depending on the social media app and what kind of content you follow. People will justify watching it by claiming "this is just how the world is", but clearly, they just like seeing extreme and shocking content. I'd like to see a video on these kinds of people some day. It's definitely a worrying trend in these current times. I even heard of a guy who loved watching specific kinds of people die because he hated them, but he also was terrible in other ways too.

[@PP-G]

The devices we carry are as addictive as certain substances and almost as damaging..look forward to this one.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yeah, somebody I know nearly died from social media, and people do♥

[@PP-G]

@ultimatemeaning I'm very happy to hear he didn't die..lots of people young and old are zombiefied by the allure of light frequency and dopamine hits..myself included.

[@MrXxchrisxx]

When you said theres next to no one who is able to give you meaningful tools to make meaningful spiritual progress, I think one of those people who are able to do this is Sadhguru I came across his videos on youtube and i had no idea about any spiritual stuff or any meditation or yoga, which i think helped me a lot because i didnt assign any meaning to these words, all i thought about these subjects before I heard of sadhguru was, Why do all these buddha monks sit all day, i dont get it, balance seems key to anything I learned a mediation and kryia yoga from sadhguru, with not much expectation of spiritual growth, i just wanted to be happy, i was at the lowest point in terms of overall health And i heard about the term enlightment and it became a goal i set, because it seemed thats what everyone wanted and was the point of meditating Now I've realized enlightment isnt somethjng you acheive or obtain or learn to do, just as meditation isnt something you do. But these words as many other words, especially in america have lost a impactful meaning and people now use the word yoga, mediation like they know what they are, when it seems like to me most people in america think mediation means to de stress or relax or become peaceful or its something you do when you are feeling bad to feel good I believe that Sadhguru gave me the tools to make meaningful growth on my spiritual path, and my goal of enlightment got dropped along other things since i started to do the practices he offers I dont know many things, but one thing ive learned is, it doesn't matter what you are doing, it matters how you do it

[@ultimatemeaning]

I might make a video on Sadhguru some time. This type of guru is very common in India/ Nepal, in fact there are many of them but certain ones, like Sadhguru and Osho, recognised the potential market in the West and so we know more about them and next to nothing about the others 🙏🙏🙏

[@MrXxchrisxx]

​@@ultimatemeaning I was good material to be part of the market, I listened to many osho videos also, was enough motivation to get me to fly for the first time to another country to learn a meditation from someone i basically knew nothing of, then I started to see changes in everything and watching your videos, I recognized the same thing that i heard from their words, in your words

[@SARASTANLEY-dg2wu]

With thanks 🍏

[@ultimatemeaning]

Welcome Sara ♥♥♥

[@VidyaGamer-e2w]

Do you watch doctor K / Alok Kanojia? I find he has a lot of insight into this topic.

[@ultimatemeaning]

OK thanks for the tip, I will look into it! ♥♥♥

[@buddhaspriest]

I got here by searching my own name in yt search, so i got here through self study😂. Great work bhante, what's your favorite teaching? I'll see if i can make a song for you based on it🎉

[@ultimatemeaning]

I think the most important teaching that any of us can invest our time in is the teaching on impermanence because this is the basis for understanding emptiness ♥♥♥

[@EliseSecond]

Reddit is my problem. Trying to get of it slowly more and more.

[@ultimatemeaning]

I'm glad I haven't fallen for Reddit, I can see the many potential "Rabbit Holes" There!🙏🙏🙏

[@LeninMcDonalds]

Pranam guruji, Had a question. How do you observe your own phone usage habits and social media usage? Struggling to reduce phone usage and wondering how you do it despite having a popular channel. Thank you🙏

[@ultimatemeaning]

Hi friend, and thank you for the excellent question. Whereas there are various apps to regulate you screen time, my feeling is the best thing to do is transfer your screen time to more virtuous or positive activities. Of course if you are a Buddhist, etc., then this could mean spending more time meditating and studying, but even for non spiritual people, it is possible to use some of that time to exercise or volunteer in the community. The root of it all is mindfulness, and we tend to become habituated to negative activities, and then without even being aware of it get sucked down the rabbit hole. Something I found personally quite helpful is to give more of my time to others. And not necessarily in a significant way. Just when you meet people in the shops or on the street then being there for others, and listening to their needs, will make life more meaningful and less self absorbed. And this is the direction our society is headed in, with everyone glued to their device and ignoring the world around them. If we can turn out attention towarsd the needs of other, we will ourselves find more peace and healing, and at the same time make the world a better place. Hope this helps ♥♥♥

[@LeninMcDonalds]

@ thank you so much guruji

[@shotgunblossom]

I just heard this term for the first time like a day ago and I’m not even old, but I’ve always been so behind all these terms 🤣😅

[@ultimatemeaning]

In my opinion that's a good sign friend ♥

[@JorisWeima]

Technically speaking 'Realization' can happen even when scrolling thru dumb shit on your phone tho🤷🏼‍♂️ I have noticed merit in actually letting these conditioned 'bad' behaviors be exactly as they are, not trying to change them! I'm reminded of Nisargadatta also recommending similar stuff. If we only keeeeep changing our 'bad'/'unspiritual' patterns we might be doing so until we've finally eliminated eeevery single bit of 'ego'...! There's no need for that! Yes you'll be a jivanmukta instantly when you finally Realize, skipping the jnani phase cuz 'all' general karma is eleminated, but it will take much longer! Don't take a detour!🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@ultimatemeaning]

technically but we need real life examples for it to go beyond the theoretical 🙏🙏🙏

[@JorisWeima]

@ultimatemeaning what exactly do you mean with real life examples? Examples of what? Theoretical I guess means 'whats said in the teachings'?

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@JorisWeima I mean people who awakened while scrolling of by scrolling- otherwise it is just theoretical right?

[@JorisWeima]

@@ultimatemeaning aaah like that. Well Buddha for sure wasn't scrolling! 😜🤣 But imo it doesn't matter when it happens. It can happen randomly when you are (/have made yourself) ripe for it to happen! So no 'example' should be needed whatsoever. All thats needed is to do the core practices of letting go etc. Scrolling is just an automatic habit, it's not necessarily in the way of Liberation! What's more in the way, imo, is trying to change your automatic habits because you believe it will help you Liberate; that's Second Dart TYPE of behavior / done out of ignorance. Yes when the behavior is finally out of the way by working on it, unconditioned again, it helps for sure because now 'the mirror is more polished which allows that one reflection to be seen more easily' (the polishing of the mirror analogy). But until that time, trying to change the automatic behavior is often actually in the way because it is done out of ignorance. In the end I came to fall back to lots of old patterns that I once really disliked....; lots of gaming, scrolling, eating carbs, lazy, not being productive at aaaall... It's hella 'unspiritual'!😂 But it's pretty clear to me that that was necessary or rather INEVITABLE to 'fall back to again' by letting go etc.🤷🏼‍♂️ Just let go let go let go let go let go let go, to remove the fears / ignorance-based behaviors, etc! We may really not like the 'me' that's underneath.... But the end justifies the means on this Path, and the 'end result' is worth it🤷🏼‍♂️😄 So to come back to your question/thing; its not about examples of people who awoke by scrolling, its about examples of people who awoke by doing the core practices! No matter whether theyre scrolling or not; irrelevant. (My Buddhist terminology isnt optimal, I hope it's clear what I mean)

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@JorisWeima Thanks for sharing that friend 🙏🙏🙏

[@S3RAVA3LM]

The obstacle in my way becomes the way

[@ultimatemeaning]

Great if you can accomplish this transformation, better if you can recognise the truth🙏🙏🙏

[@S3RAVA3LM]

@@ultimatemeaning the obstacle is pain or anger, the way, being forgiveness or forebearance. Weights for lifting, as in exercise, are the obstacle, the way is discipline and willpower, that which is attained through commitment and dedication, thus ultimately perseverance is had. Are you an absolutist? In that, you believe you know Truth in its totality. I myself only ever recognized truth as being a direction towards which we grow in. To say otherwise is pretentious and causes conflict with others. I am now obliged to ask: so, what is the Truth? Is Truth that which prevents you from studying Plato or Platonics in general? The truth that keeps you in bondage to Tibetan Buddhism? Is it the truth that prevents you from building bridges and roads for the people? Or is it the one that impeded you from becoming a doctor so mending broken bones? Is it the Truth that made you selfish so only saving yourself all the while you neglected the world and turned your back on her?

[@Taiceratops]

And the monk doomscrolling was ask by his master if he had seen all the suffering the world had to offer and thus the doomscrolling monk was enlightened

[@ultimatemeaning]

😆🤣😆 In theory anyways 😆🤣😆

[@chuck9112]

I get your point, so don't think I disagree. However, I've watched videos such as from OSHO that have taken me to higher levels of being. He's been gone for 35 years, and I still benefit from his wisdom. You must choose but choose wisely what you watch on the internet.

[@ultimatemeaning]

You may be interested in a video that will be uploaded next week on Osho, but I have a question for you: "What do you mean by higher levels of being?" Thanks 🙏🙏🙏

[@chuck9112]

@ultimatemeaning is this video about OSHO, or is he speaking? I had a peak experience many years ago like Eckhart Tolle. I found it very difficult to function in everyday life so I kind of forced myself to come back to regular whatever unconscious LOL but OSHO showed me how to be awake and still function by being the observer, watching, like a mirror without judgment. Like you said, there are many levels. It's a journey 🙃

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@chuck9112 I review a short clip of him speaking

[@chuck9112]

@@ultimatemeaning 😎 cool

[@chuck9112]

​@ultimatemeaning I watched this video again, and yes, I'm guilty of Doomscrolling. Instead of choosing to be present, I'm watching. Like a drug. I want to see your Osho review and then I will take a break from the phone. 😅

[@LPUSW]

Aren’t we all just a being searching for happiness and relief of suffering? But what would losing that make us then? Not against it just wondering if this is just our very being, and thence why would we not just indulge in what we are?

[@ultimatemeaning]

This is a topic for another video how we identify happiness and suffering, but it's not what you think in the context of the Buddhist teachings♥♥♥

[@LPUSW]

@ looking forward to the videos!

[@dpsrush]

The one that plans to meditate is not the one that will do the meditating. If meditation is truly my goal, then i should stop and let go right here

[@ultimatemeaning]

And yet if you conceptualise "letting go" it again becomes non-meditation

[@dpsrush]

@ultimatemeaning ugh, like a gum stuck to hair 😫

[@bodhicitta3jewels]

Thank you, Lama la. I had no idea what doomscrolling was. I had to look it up. It seems to me there are loads of things to be addicted to in a culture that promotes comfort and self-indulgence over anything else. Another helpful tool, for me, is to sit with discomfort/boredom/etc in small doses at first without self soothing with the addictive substance/phone/food/etc. Being ok to experience discomfort and see it as an ally can be helpful. I say to myself, "Bring on the suffering. It's inevitable. Learn to deal with now it rather than avoid it. I accept how I feel in this moment, and I know this feeling is fleeting." I am learning that the universe doesn't need to constantly entertain me for me to be content. One step at a time, as they say! ❤

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yes sitting with discomfort is good for the "soul" 🙏🙏🙏

[@juanpadilla3203]

Guilty as charged

[@ultimatemeaning]

Be kind to yourself, find lasting happiness

[@whoeverofhowevermany]

I'm not looking for enlightening on this thing 😂 I'm just looking cause it's here to look at

[@ultimatemeaning]

And what about the world around you, is that too not there to be engaged with? Likewise your own mind is fertile and full of wonder ♥♥♥

[@whoeverofhowevermany]

@ultimatemeaning my phone is a part of the world around me 🙂 I'm just looking at it because it's there to look at, and I'm seeing what is there for me to see

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@whoeverofhowevermany Its up to you what you look at friend ♥♥♥ And although your phone is part of "the world around you" it is not the world around you.

[@whoeverofhowevermany]

@ultimatemeaning ☺️ my phone is neither friend nor enemy

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@whoeverofhowevermany Sure, whatever you say 🙏🙏🙏

[@nudoge]

2:25 hmmmmmmm 🤔

[@nudoge]

4:53 ^^

[@nudoge]

You cant buy the Buddhas company

[@nudoge]

The Yogi that was running on the water after 30 years and the Buddha took the ferry for a dime

[@nudoge]

8:47 honestly I just like how refreshing it is to hear Buddhists speak.

[@ultimatemeaning]

ahhhhh! 🤔

[@DougDeYoung-gt4id]

I turned to KZbin after realizing everything mainstream was a lie. Now I've figured out the same about KZbin. You're the only Truth on my KZbin feed. After being targeted by .gov I shot my laptop to pieces. The smartphone is next. Maybe I'll get a landline with a rotary phone I wonder if they still work?

[@globalgulag5586]

Wireless phones are available without the distractions. Text, email, and and voice-to-ear phone line, imagine that.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Hi Doug, outer appearances are a deception as long as we cling to them as substantial and real ♥♥♥

[@Mothyone]

When you wake up you sweep the floor... when you reach enlightenment you sweep the floor...

[@Mothyone]

but you do so happily I will say that or not its really your choice to be happy or not and every second your choosing one or the other.

[@Mothyone]

I am happy to admit that I dont know though.

[@ultimatemeaning]

Most definitely friend! 🙏🙏🙏

[@DominykaSchrei]

Oh, I assumed doomscrolling was something way darker 😶

[@ultimatemeaning]

Yeah me too, at first I thought it was people looking at all kinds of dark stuff, but my SA friend corrected me 🙏🙏🙏

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

What is this "path" you speak of? Towards enlightenment? Is that not more doomscrolling? Do we not simply exist in order to be truly free?

[@depraved420]

Found you while doom scrolling so it's not so bad? I'm not looking for anything.

[@MKatyOK]

Yes, I’ve noticed the more random scrolling of the internet became a daily habit, the poorer my single-pointed attention. Meditative equipoise went down the gurgler 👎 Scrolling through social media is training the mind in exactly the OPPOSITE way from what I need. More scrolling= more fragmented thoughts… the monkey mind is empowered to run randomly in any direction, pulling the emotions around with it! Blurghhhh. Good job I just got my home internet cut off. I’m in the midst of breaking the habit. Still have mobile data though… 😉

[@ultimatemeaning]

You've some valid insight there Katy, distraction from outward appearances steals away our mindfulness♥♥♥♥♥

[@withinfinite5104]

I feel like my subscribing is almost the opposite of the intent of this video, like its a sip of salt water...

[@ultimatemeaning]

Oh, you can cook pasta with salt water at least♥♥♥

[@discordlexia2429]

I don't want instant gratification, I just want a moment of calm that I can build into something bigger. That's what I keep looking for, because the moment I stop looking I go crazy and hurt myself. I'd like to take a spiritual path, an nice, slow, long one that lasts my entire life. But the stakes of stopping my momentum and trying to for example meditate for me aren't that I feel uncomfortable, it's that I tear myself apart with my fingernails. I think maybe I need serious psychiatric help before embarking on a long spiritual path but I've been hurt so, so badly by western psychiatrists and the way they approach the mind. I'm too scared to seek help. Sorry, I know this video wasn't a personal attack, I just... Wanted to say something. Maybe I just like the sound of my own keyboard too much.

[@skull-knight-420]

Oh boy, reading this made me cry, I was close to people that experienced similar feelings and I believe to this day that I should have tried harder. Look, I can't really give you advice for a variety of reasons, mainly because I never seek help. But know that it's worth trying, approaching your feelings with different focus to find a non harmful way (with help or not) I believe in you! and I hope you find what you're looking for

[@ultimatemeaning]

We are all on this roller coaster ride called Samsara, but to a greater or lesser degree. Part of the reason why so many people in the West are suffering from ADHD and other similar conditions is because we have become habituated to continual sensory stimulation. This is addictive and as with many addictions we convince ourselves that we need them to remain sane or happy when in fact the addiction is what is causing us to suffer. e.g. You often smokers say "I need a cigarette to calm down" when in fact it is withdrawal from the nicotine that is making them anxious. But I get it it is difficult to go cold turkey. The solution is to first recognise there is an issue and then to decide to overcome that. Once you have made this decision then you need to think about your path to recovery seriously and be careful. One thing for sure is that there is always hope and that peace and tranquility can be achieved, its only a matter of finding a suitable path to well being. I will be making some guided meditations in the hope that they may be of some benefit for people like you and others who are finding it difficult enter the path of healing. ♥🧡🧡

[@discordlexia2429]

@@ultimatemeaning Thank you for your kind words! I'm trying something small, just going for a walk once a day between 10 minutes to an hour. I agree, addictions are formed as a cope. For me, I used video games, books, and TV as a way to dissociate and escape an abusive childhood. Unfortunately, there's little to tie me to real life - partially because society these days is so bureaucratic and inhuman, and partially because people these days are kinda mean. We're all struggling with a collapsing society in different ways so it's not really their fault. Hopefully your guided meditations help me and other struggling people. You're a cool guy. Thank you :)

[@Megatomicdoragon]

Read the Tractatus logico philosophicus I'm gonna spend the rest of my life absorbing dopamine on the Internet It hurts so good, choga sama....

[@ultimatemeaning]

♥♥♥

[@Master-j9k]

I'll attempt to tickle your funny bone with this: if you're seeking happiness, simply choose to be happy. And if you're aiming for enlightenment, try holding your breath until you pass out - that's when someone will awaken you. But, please, heed this warning: don't try this at home.

[@ultimatemeaning]

I get the feeling that you don't understand what is mean by happiness and enlightenment in the context of the spiritual path. In that context all beings choose happiness but mix up the causes of happiness and the cause of suffering and then apply themselves to the causes of suffering thinking these will bring happiness. Also enlightenment isn't about becoming unconscious, that is what is called a "nihilistic" position. And sorry if I missed the joke ♥

[@waiataaroha]

no music please it was very distracting and loud

[@ultimatemeaning]

So far its about 9:1 in favour of background music, but I am merely experimenting ♥♥♥

[@waiataaroha]

@ultimatemeaning did your lama put background music while he taught? Let's not fall into meaningless desires against what is pure, if only 1 is being distracted out of 1 million then you shut off the music. You are making these videos to deliver the spoken message, not the music.

[@heretohavefun5646]

can you tell jokes and stories? you are a cool person

[@ultimatemeaning]

Hi friend, I have told stories about the past masters along with some jokes, check out this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLu8Rw0r4aAhSw4BdrjSKb7flICyRIHhE_

[@FloyDJode]

Bingbonging to bingbongenment

[@RediscoveringApril44]

And what do I do yesterday? Get all hyped up about young women promoting self deprecation. *Reset*~~~~sigh

[@johnm.7621]

Pls turn off the background music.

[@ultimatemeaning]

OK I'll think about it, I asked people what they think and most said they like it so far ♥

[@johnm.7621]

​ @ultimatemeaning From a spiritual perspective it's easier to connect with you without distracting music, it's like listening to music while meditating to not get bored, but maybe younger audience has an opposite view on that, idk. 🤔

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@johnm.7621 Thanks for that!

[@tomking5290]

@johnm.7621 just use the clicker!

[@QUIKB3N]

I do do d doomscroll

[@ultimatemeaning]

protect your fingers lolz

[@helee28]

🙈 sos

[@ultimatemeaning]

♥♥♥You're lucky you're a Nepal♥♥♥

[@helee28]

​@@ultimatemeaninghmmm dis you mean to say I'm a Nepali?

[@nameless-yd6ko]

Nirvana, Heaven, Hell, mortality, immortality... are not 'where' you are, they are "who" you are! Otherwise everyone would be vacationing there! ;)

[@Mothyone]

I reached enlightenment now what? 😂

[@ultimatemeaning]

😆🤣😆 Yeah many people actually feel like this, so the obvious answer is "maybe you didn't get there yet?" But then this can upset them so its better not to say 😆🤣😆

[@Mothyone]

Oh I got such a good laugh from leaving this comment haha yes for sure, if I didnt know then I would automatically assume I missed the point. Nothing wrong with upsetting people many do so need a good shake so to speak lol Much love

[@ultimatemeaning]

@@Mothyone ♥♥♥

[@Mothyone]

Yeah I would have to agree with you until I can teach how can I possibly know well enough to say I understand. So as it is I am on the journey of enlightenment as its not achieved but once then it becomes maintaining the balance I am but a student with many lessons.

[@Catpipehon]

Careful, you're displaying a red hat!

[@ultimatemeaning]

What's a red hat? Are you talking about the Sharmarpa? My head was cold. Winter is coming. I had to put the fire on.♥