Doomsday Glacier collapse! Time for MORE human intervention??

[@pllpsy665]

Ok.Ok. But let's get back to the important question. How can we use this to generate shareholder value?

[@leonstenutz6003]

😅😂😢

[@ELXatrix]

you just build a concrete plant on a ship and rent it out so whoever wants to try to dam a glacier can get some concrete to build it made on site...on the way down you dredge up some beaches for sand, if that idea fails those beaches would be unter water anyway. ps: can i get some percentage for my great idea?

[@rampaginwalrus]

tangential reminder that 93% of the entire US stock market is owned by the top 10% of investors. Those numbers are from 2022, so it's probably even worse now. Just fun to keep in mind whenever corpos say "generate shareholder value" or "maximize shareholder returns". What they really mean is "to make the ultra rich even richer" at the expense of literally everyone else.

[@trueriver1950]

Venture capital investment into geoengineering start-ups perhaps?

[@gmw3083]

Al Gore and the gang already cashed in

[@linc234]

the more I watch your channel the more I'm listening to a Cassandra of the modern age, the passive aggressive British humor help it go down. Also thank you for running no ads!

[@MonsterSound.Bradley]

Cop-out29 was a smashing success. Biggest cop-out yet.

[@___.51]

I'm stealing this one thank you!

[@JSfuckgoogle]

....but still ot's not complete & utter BS to you, huh!? 🙄

[@PsillyApeUSA]

Because they know carbon isn’t the issue. It’s a grift

[@stephenbermingham6554]

Dont worry though UK is full steam Ahead we headed for extreme poverty.

[@JR-lz4bz]

COPE29

[@Tulpen23]

I personally love your ranting - it’s cathartic, not boring

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

algae can sequester 100 gigatons of CO2 per year. That's the only real "intervention" that is feasible as Sir David King and Raffael Jovine are working towards. I know he has promoted algae before - does he mention algae in this vid? Not sure why people don't just fixate on algae. The future of life on Earth is algae, one way or another.

[@jamesalanstephensmith7930]

@@Tulpen23 Education is never a rant! How much better would we be if they payed attention to the environment instead of profit thirty years ago. When your waterfront property is under water, will you then get it?

[@SteveWarlee]

No, will rebuild on stilts and call it , on the water.

[@Tulpen23]

@@jamesalanstephensmith7930 I agree - he said he should “stop ranting” for fear of boring us - but what he calls “ranting”, I consider thoughtful reflection combined with the appropriate amount of outrage, which I thoroughly enjoy hearing. Unfortunately, people have been shouting warnings about these things for decades, and yet greed has prevailed

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@jamesalanstephensmith7930 No one responded to me - did youtube censor my comment? I just want to know if he acknowledges the Aerosol Masking Effect being twice as bad as previously thought as per Daniel Rosenfeld's research group. That means a 40% reduction in burning coal heats up Earth another 1 degree Celsius global average. Only algae is the future of life on Earth since algae can sequester 100 gigatons of CO2 per year.

[@thearpox7873]

Constructing a barrier to stop the ocean currents from interacting with a large part of Antarctica would mean the ocean currents suddenly don't get cooled down by glaciers or by mixing with the icy water there, which would then dramatically warm said ocean currents, which would in turn accelerate the warming of every other chunk of ice touching water, potentially creating multiple points of instability. Oh, and quite possibly change the ocean currents as well to say nothing of the atmosphere above.

[@janvanbowens]

Thanks. All the ‚witty’ solutions are mindless. The problem of people is that they doing harm by knowing nothing. Then they try to repair with the same not knowing. Create more harm. Before they think about Superman solutions they should check scientific history for morons like themself.

[@snookmeister55]

For starters, building a barrier is infeasible and won't happen.

[@jpfrazer69]

exactly - this kind of stupidity characterizes the techno-optimistic flailings of a dying system

[@etienne8110]

Yes it is a stupid plan. But it just shows how desperate people in power are. Rather than discuss how we change the root of the problem (capitalism) , they d rather imagine impossible walls in the ocean, atmospheric manipulations and other geoengineering of crazy scale...

[@villager736]

Just build an oyster wall. It's effective and self repairing.

[@michelfournier2683]

You Sir, are NEVER Boring!!

[@ChrisBigBad]

On the contrary. Quite exciting. In a strange way.

[@Pasta_watcher]

Little of column a, little of column b

[@you_aint_seen_me_right]

You have a real gift for not only explaining the terrifying, but also finding some humour in the irony and absurdity of it all which serves to make it more digestible. As for what we do, I agree wholeheartedly, literally everything we possibly can.

[@JSfuckgoogle]

@@you_aint_seen_me_right ....well isn't that convenient... for big business and all those with a vested interest! Oh you are such a Good Citizen! 🙄🔫

[@antonyjohnson4489]

Brilliantly delivered and the humour certainly offers some light relief from what is an eternally depressing thought. Look forward to the next video.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thank you. That's vey kind feedback :-)

[@GoodBaleadaMusic]

This channel makes me drink more than think.

[@AbsoluteTiger]

😂 soon to be rebranded “Just have a drink”

[@happymusicschool-it1qc]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@toyotaprius79]

It'll be grand!

[@toyotaprius79]

​@AbsoluteTiger take a shot for everythime our lovely presenter dishes out grim reality check. It'll be like drinking to Roxanne

[@volkerengels5298]

_Just tried to imagine a litre of thoughts - but having a hard time cause I'm far too high_ Intellectuals serving 'solutions' which ups don't work not with the ppl nor with the real physics or biology. Maybe Intellectuals are sort of dumb? My body says YES / Yours too! :)

[@fazerianducati]

It’s only a matter of time,goodbye and thanks for all the fish!

[@HermanVonPetri]

At this point I've fully given up and just hope that natural selection will remove us from the system as quickly as possible.

[@fazerianducati]

@ Based on the evidence I’ve seen we are too far gone to retrieve the situation. Sooner or later food will become impossible to grow at the scale we need to sustain human life, let alone all the rest of the innocent life on earth.

[@___.51]

@@fazerianducati I wonder what sort of life humans will be eking out in say, one thousand years. Scattered bands of hunter-gatherers? Maybe. A handful of farming villages working the last arable refugium on Earth? Maybe. Total extinction? Also possible. I don't know what's more tragic.

[@quicknumbercrunch8691]

@@fazerianducati My money is on lung disease and other organ failures from bad food, water and air. Violence will be a horror show. Food of some bad quality always seems to be available for most.

[@fazerianducati]

@@___.51 As the seas rise and inundate the 450 odd nuclear reactors they will melt down and release ionising radiation into the atmosphere, not much, if any life will survive that.

[@JRattheranch]

As always Dave you've stated the nonsensical ideas proposed and rightly so! Did I detect extreme cynicism in your tone this evening? I like many others, would concur with your position! On the brighter side..... Your use of the Kings English, every week, is exemplary and even if it's not good news, it's still a joy to listen to and mentally digest! Much appreciated 👍!

[@CrystalAbrahams]

Agreed! 🇨🇦

[@timbushell8640]

Can I double, yah, triple tick/thumbs up this comment? Just wish some would stop worrying about the price of eggs during a avian flu pandemic and actual 'look up and see' what is actually going on.

[@stevewilliams2498]

He even referred to us as "GREAT Britain" I haven't heard that for a long time.

[@kfield11001]

Absolutely!

[@CrystalAbrahams]

@@stevewilliams2498 Y'all are Great, Steve! 🇨🇦

[@Clint-stanley]

Was at McMirdo station in 2006. The surrounding area was completely covered with Ice. After you article, I checked Google maps and was suprised to see free standing water at the edge of the station. Why are we not hearing about this? It was almost unrecognizable.

[@dalel3608]

So you were there when it was an especially cold year where they needed a russian icebreaker to get cargo to the station; yet in 1999 it was open water right to the station, it happens. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Mcmurdo118.jpg

[@Bushman9]

Any corporate headquarters down there? Oops… answered your question with a question. My bad.

[@GoatPopsicle]

It gets buried with the rest of the “downer stories” that lose money for corporate owned news; and it’s nothing new at all in the News business. Nearly 100% of Americans have no idea about the vast numbers of European Economic Migrants escaping the “N.American Colonies,” to live with the First Nations people, became a survival issue for the colonies. So much so, that their leadership illegally implemented a family/communal punishment (and walled & locked-in towns). Ben Franklin was the “Fox News” Murdoch of his day, and just suppressed those stories in the 93% of printing presses he owned before & after the Colonies’ Rebellion to the Crown & First Nations’ Treaties.

[@bridgeovertroubledwater6716]

was it the winter or the summer? it may be ice all year, but there is still significant seasonal change. Maybe if you at the same time looked at the arctic region, there would have been more ice at that time. It ebbs and flows, sometimes slowly, but it never stays still

[@Clint-stanley]

@@bridgeovertroubledwater6716 I was there in summer but the amount of ice melt is significantly increased. It was warm in 2006 but ice was still several miles away. No longer the case now.

[@renripari5514]

Together we stand , divided we fall ! From Australia 🇦🇺

[@a.randomjack6661]

"Western politics is the marketing of fear and hatred." -Unknown I read that long ago, today, I asked my search AI. It gave a lot of sources, this was the conclusion: Western politics often employs fear and hatred as tactics to sway public opinion and achieve political goals. This phenomenon is rooted in human psychology, evolutionary biology, and the manipulation of information. Recognizing these dynamics is crucial for promoting a more informed and critical citizenry, capable of resisting the exploitation of fear and hatred in political discourse.

[@carelgoodheir692]

@@a.randomjack6661 Sometimes. Other times it markets lulling. Chamberlan's "Peace in our time" for example. Nothing to worry about can be as untrue a ploy as lots to worry about.

[@andrewgoodbody2121]

The flowers are blooming in Antarctica 💀🦴

[@unvergebeneid]

"Okay folks, we need to stop a glacier from melting, give me options!" "How bout a continent-sized wall on the ocean floor to stop the ocean currents themselves?" "Anything less completely bonkers? Come on folks, give me something realistic here!" "We could stop burning oil." "Okay, circling back to stopping the ocean with a wall..."

[@superspeederbooster]

more like coal and gas

[@petewright4640]

It's not "stoping the ocean with a wall". It's blocking a layer of warm water that is present at a known depth due to density of the overlying water - cold but less salty, so it remains close to the sea bed. It's a good idea and will cost far less than the global damage of the resulting sea level rise. But the idea is forwarded by scientists in relevant disciplines, and what do they know. BTW of course the best thing would be to reduce emissions.

[@darkfafnir4389]

​@@petewright4640 we are in some of the lowest emissions in a long time...the ozone has actually healed, which they say would never happen...seems like it's a cycle and will happen no matter what we do...the earth has gone through changes and will continue to change and the longer humans have written records the more we will understand...it's like a grain of sand in a huge desert, that's our knowledge and written recorded facts about weather and changes

[@darkfafnir4389]

​@@superspeederboosterand you sound like a 🐑🐑🐑🤡🤡🤡

[@petethetaper]

you got it! grow a wall. redirect warmer water with a pod of whales swimming in circles like Moby Dick did to Ahab. a vortex, then repel it . hydrogen engine, magnetic thermals - make the warm water charged then repel it by magnetizing it. (in a molecular way)☯

[@Tin-j6k]

The thawing ice has frozen my heart. The leaders lead us further into darkness seeking the darkest depths. The herded masses follow knowing their fate, mere shouts of complaint accompany them upon their trail. Nice one Dave x

[@PrivateSi]

Increasing humidity is the problem as water vapour is 1000x more powerful GH gas than the air you breath out. We have to burn everything green to seriously slow global warming, while increasing rainfall for a few years. after which Global Cooling kicks in, just like CO2 phobes want for some mad reason.... OR JUST LIVE WITH IT, as we're leaving a glacial maximum and sea levels are set to rise 100m+ in the next 50,000 years!

[@robertmarmaduke186]

You're watching way too much Warhammer. Take a break with Ghibli, and remember, the only 'controversy' is over how much of our life savings the State robs with fin-tech and with sc-itech. _"Take the )ab! Take the )a-a-ab!"_

[@stratvids]

@@robertmarmaduke186 🤡

[@gmw3083]

​@@robertmarmaduke186Roight on. The OP and the masses will panic on cue

[@thiemokellner1893]

And they all are elected by us.

[@speters17]

'How about tackling our suicidal economic system and rapidly transitioning to sustainable ways of living?' 'Lol, check out this fantasist. How would we pay for that? Who gets the profit? How would we even achieve that? Anyway, as we were saying, let's do the gigantic bollards of imaginary materials to hold back a literal fucking continent of ice, while continuing business as usual'.

[@pohkeee]

Humans will use their last gasp…to argue over money. 😵‍💫

[@Marco-hb4pt]

Don't worry. Just because capitalism will cause one of the greatest extinction events in this planet's history, I still have faith in the system. Surely, some tech bro or genius billionaire will come up with an idea that will fix everything while simultaneously increasing their profit margin. We just need more free market, and salvation will trickle down to us. Have faith; there’s no way capitalism will kill us all. After all, it’s the best system ever, right?

[@ksben0016]

Agree, it’s easier for us to spend $100 trillion to get 50 human corpses on the surface of mars than it is to spend $500 million on an Antarctic solution. Why is that?

[@dmrr7739]

There is a solution, just not a planet-wide solution. Maybe an elite few million can be served. The trick is to get the maximum number of people to pay for it before they realize they won’t be included.

[@user-hj7be8rg4k]

​@@Marco-hb4ptWrong. But I hope your comment was sarcasm

[@trueriver1950]

Thanks Dave for consistently including the year when mentioning recent research: eg "the summer of 2024". This will be especially helpful for people looking back at these videos in a few years' time. Assuming there are people around to look at videos in a few decades time that will be even more helpful to them

[@MonkeyChessify]

Just wanna say thanks for continuing spreading this information and sharing new research and developments!

[@JonS]

The curtain solution has great merit. We just need find a race of giants to construct it out of ice. So long as no one blows the Horn of Joramun, we should all be fine.

[@LudetheDude1]

😂

[@ravenken]

@@LudetheDude1 I know. It is soooo funny listening to these techno-fixer wanna bes. Keep buringin the FUEL.. THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. Oh year. profit too.

[@Max_Doubt]

Recall the words of Former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson. He was asked, "What if the worst predictions of climate scientists should come to pass?" His answer? "We will adapt." Yes, Rex, those humans and animals who survive will have adapted. Thanks for the tautology.

[@richardivonen3564]

I wish that I could give you 1000 thumbs up for your comment.

[@villager736]

Just evolve back into fish, problem solved

[@mattockman]

Correct.

[@shadowofmyfutureself]

Is Tillerson dead already? Or is he still smug in the knowledge he WILL be dead when billions of people are dying because of the attitude of a small number of psychotic madmen like him? Oh right. He's 72 and still going strong

[@billpetersen298]

@@villager736Acid resistant fish.

[@gsnyder2007]

Well, aren’t we already doing geo engineering? Just not intentionally? And, given the scale of those crazy (intentional) geo engineering ideas, wouldn’t it be easier to just stop burning fossil fuels?

[@GoodBaleadaMusic]

Using what cultural connection to local abundance procurement? Some of you can't go back. The UK produces 20% of the food it eats. Because they rely totally on really old and broken supply chains ideologies.

[@filonin2]

I'm no fossil fuel proponent, but it would literally not be easier to stop using fossil fuels. That's why we won't.

[@sebastianbardon391]

Stop burning fossil fuels has been as impossible as all those crazy solutions listed in the video. We keep burning more every year.

[@tims9434]

Geoengineering is on purpose obviously

[@jamesphillips2285]

@@filonin2 Then we die. I think phasing out fossil fuels is worth the risk.

[@EMB2]

Thanks!

[@NakorTheBlueRider]

You might want to do a video on how all the countries that are constantly present down there are lining up for the mining opportunities. It’s not about fixing the damage we are causing it’s about maximizing profit and geopolitical power. Our species knows no shame.

[@LuciannaG123]

I'm so daft. Of course that's what's happening.

[@juqual78]

That and the so called good people of this planet do nothing

[@robertalexander5422]

Hey, 200,000 years of Hunter Gathering is going to leave a mark. You can't just print up some Bibles and expect those deadly sins to just vanish, do you?

[@kiwidiesel]

​@@robertalexander5422no you have to go to confession to clean your slate and do it all again 😂

[@Campaigner82]

I’ll be Interested in that

[@punditgi]

We are all doomed but I still appreciate Dave and this channel. Keep calm and carry on!

[@jamesvillacorta1713]

not yet

[@jackmcandle6955]

@@jamesvillacorta1713I’d like to agree but we know how greed is like cancer and we are just hoping for a remission.

[@villager736]

I think your being a bit dramatic

[@rickyspanish4792]

@@villager736 I think you're being a bit naive

[@villager736]

@@rickyspanish4792 It's a bit naive to think that humanity will die out from a bit of weather

[@Luddite-vd2ts]

Thanks for lightening this dire subject with the comedy interlude on geoengineering. It gave me something to laugh at.

[@switch4960]

What an outstanding video! I love the calm with which you explain this… a perfect recipe for some of the people we know to get the same lesson (or at the very least, pestered with a link). Thank you and take care of one another.

[@bibliotek42]

I find all your vitally important information videos on what is actually happening with our planet utterly terrifying. Thank you for chewing through all the research and presenting it so clearly. I wish these videos weren't necessary.

[@tims9434]

The point is to scare you

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@tims9434 "The point is to scare you" No, the point is to inform you, and the reality is that the facts on the ground are very very scary. In reality, most people have no idea how bad things really are.

[@PrivateSi]

You're nuts! CO2 phobia has maddened you. We're leaving a glacial maximum and sea level will rise 100m+ in the next 50,000 years. We'll lose a lot of coastline, but there's plenty of land and will get greener, trapping more moisture, with HUMIDITY also increasing warming. There's nothing we can do about it except rebuild on higher ground, like hominids have done for millions of years.

[@manoo422]

@@HealingLifeKwikly It would be mildly scary...if any of it was true.

[@kengillett3042]

​@@manoo422YUP ! I'm mildly scared, at the prospect of all those low-lying agricultural river valleys, where 90% of the World's food is growing, just disappearing under the sea, if just this area of Thwait's melts. Extremely mildly worried.

[@johnransom1146]

If you want to have more reflective surfaces, start with roof tops in hot climates.

[@hydeparkist]

Do you have any idea about the size of our planets surface compared to rooftops? I suggest reforestation of deserts in stead of chemically painting some microscopic roofs. And if you want to paint, start with tarmac.

[@gregluetkemeyer614]

​@hydeparkist I think part of this argument is rooftops are man made so man can make them more reflective fairly easily.

[@hydeparkist]

@@gregluetkemeyer614 I get it, but it would make way more sense to make them reflective for keeping the house cool and save lots of energy. To make the planet as a whole more reflective it's pointless. The largest 'surface treatment' we can give to our planet is planting trees and changing our water management and agriculture.

[@redneckhippiefreak]

@@gregluetkemeyer614 You are forgetting one important part of Fearmongering- The solutions must be extravagant, complicated and costly, Never easy, simple and sustainable.

[@RaiseTheApple]

I suggest you look into the MEER project. fascinating stuff with real potential

[@mangethegamer]

Nothing is going to get better. A extremely rich upper class have high-jacked our societies by the means of compound interest and will use every mean necessary to hoard the resources the masses need to survive. The masses will grow poorer and poorer until they starve and the rich will shelter themselves in protected societies not unlike in the hunger games series. This is the reality that is coming. The biggest disservices we're doing to ourselves is believing in this theater society and that things can change by means of policy and legislation.

[@joansparky4439]

What would the compound interest look like for a currency that has got a negative lower bound interest? What does the interest signal in an economy anyway and where would it be when the economy saturates or even shrinks? Still positive? Or rather zero or even negative? So again.. what would happen to the compound interest rate if our currencies would function at negative interest rates? And why don't they work in that regime anyway? Why is that? Why can't our economies saturate or even shrink without problems?

[@larkop6504]

Sadly even though I agree, I fear most are happy to fool themselves about reality. Started making preparations ten years ago. As for interest rates saturating or shrinking without problems I would suggest taking that point down the local boozer and seeing what input data you get and consolidate it in a pretty graph.

[@etienne8110]

As a french man, i know from History how fast such a lockdown can fall. Currently there are grumblings of dissent growing. The 1% can get overthrown faster than you think, we all just need a little nudge towards a resolution.

[@Spectre4913]

Same people have been doing this for the last 2000 years.

[@joannemcvey6874]

Currently..I can not believe I am saying this, China and India may be a hope?!

[@ricklines8755]

Sometimes it's hard for me to look at this problem. It's wrecking my mental health. How do you keep on reporting. Your determination is positively heroic.

[@mildbill2806]

BECAUSE OF COMMENTS on this video my son who goes by HermanVonPetri killed himself on December 2. This is how dangerous comments can literally be taken by those with mental illness. Now his father and mother are left to grieve.

[@marcingolab6227]

Small reminder to everyone that society works the way it does because we all agree to participate in it. It is this basic fact that makes strikes (and other social "events") work.

[@joaomarcelo742]

underrated

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

First step is to stop participating in elections. They're fake nonsense slave theatre.

[@ricardosmythe2548]

That participation is what makes things like food supply chains work on the industrial scale needed to stop mass starvation.

[@jglenn2282]

We must pressure our public servants (with public ridicule, enforced laws and prison) to stop being bought by corporations and billionaires.

[@smvsspould]

Well I'm not having any kids, any biological ones anyway, that's a start.

[@pj8227]

Easter Island! No inhabitant would chop down the last few trees, that would be madness! TREE'S WERE ALL CHOPPED DOWN and Easter island society collapsed. We are on the same path! So pull up a chair, grab a bottle of whiskey and watch the future unravel.

[@JonS]

It turns out that ecocide story about Easter Island is not true. Check out "Approximate Bayesian Computation of radiocarbon and paleoenvironmental record shows population resilience on Rapa Nui (Easter Island)", by Robert J. DiNapoli, et. al. in Nature (published 24 June 2021). Not that you should take much solace about our current climate predicament from knowing that..

[@JackRowsey]

They did that in Haiti. Look at Google Earth and see the border with Dominican Republic. There’s vast forest on one side and not a stick on the other. It’s quite apparent how stupid people can be.

[@kmoses582]

CO2 is poison to all carbon based life

[@Frostbiker]

Tragedy of the Commons, innit? The person who cuts down the tree benefits from doing so, even if the community at large suffers. Same as driving cars around town: mild convenience for the driver, significant inconvenience for everybody outside of the vehicle.

[@debracisneroshhp2827]

@pj8227, OOOORR, the people of the afluent countries of this world could start giving a flyin' f--k whether the governments of the modern world get their act together, and actually WORK TOGETHER, to do what is required for the highest good of ALL Earthlings__how 'bout THAT?!!! 😳 🙏😇💫✨🌱🌿🌻🐝🌳🐬🌎💖🙌😺

[@kerryburns-k8i]

Perhaps if we stopped making war ?

[@incognitotorpedo42]

That would be great but it would probably increase consumption.

[@Wardr0p]

Well, considering that the entire collection of human history is war.. I think that behavior is baked into the cake of human beings. War is what we do.

[@genxerfool9797]

Don't be silly

[@kerryburns-k8i]

@@genxerfool9797 Sorry, don´t know what I was thinking ...

[@axelandersen6025]

And spent the money and resources on what? Fixing the planet maybe…..

[@kimberleytv]

Really informative with wonderful production values. Thank you very big.

[@tunneloflight]

No worries. It's all trivially easy to solve. Step 1: Invent time machine ...

[@velotill]

Step 2: bribe Clarence Thomas to get Florida properly counted, continue living in a vastly more hopeful world.

[@pohkeee]

@@velotilla few dimwits trumped your deal 🥴😵‍💫

[@toyotaprius79]

Step 1.1 invite the richest people to test out a new submarine to visit the Titanic

[@toyotaprius79]

​@@velotillStep 2.2 organised and wildcat general strikes

[@AndresFigari]

Step 2: ?? Step 3: Profit!

[@shadowdance4666]

The collapse of the doomsday glacier, and the subsequent collapse of AMOC is a topic worthy of debate. Especially in a best and worst case scenario.

[@rosemaryirwin3305]

What would the best case be? I don't think the facts of what is happening is a debate.

[@manoo422]

Whats the point, neither is going to happen.

[@robertmarmaduke186]

The 'facts' as you say, have drifted far apart from *Magic CO2!* into geological and ocean dynamics CHAOS which can't be modelled, and then COP29 pirate extortion tactics as 'climate reparations'. The real 'controversy' is not 'fossil fuels', but over how much of our life savings the State robs with fin-tech _and evangelical sci-tech._

[@toyotaprius79]

Imagine if all of the worst tipping points coincide with eachother and balances out, even if it means civilisations collapse. Lol...

[@toyotaprius79]

​@@rosemaryirwin3305not a debate (fuck debates) but it's definitely a matter of prolonged speculation that's relying on real time and up to date data on our emissions enshitification climate models. Models that were initially too conservative against a rapidly changing present because of the centuries of recorded baseline of our now long gone stable climate

[@nigelericogden3200]

In these dark times meditation is all that keeps me going, and I am extremely grateful to have spent my lifetime studying it.

[@ravenken]

A LOT of channels are talking up techno-fixes that are in the shoot to address this 'problem'. Thank you for keeping it real.

[@robertinget1613]

Never mind flooding. Melting permafrost affects the entire planet.

[@KareSeriouslyKaren]

As I always told my students: You can't destroy the planet, you can only make it uninhabitable for humans. I agree that the ramifications of experimenting (effectively) on the entire planet through geoengineering is probably deeply flawed and will most likely cause more problems down the road. Heaven forfend that we force corporations and governments to reign in their massive contributions to the problem.

[@oceanbreeze1440]

If the world's nuclear reactors meltdown due to climate change chaos there's a possibility of the planet being irradiated and all life, including microscopic, be destroyed. Sucks hey?

[@villager736]

I think calling it "uninhabitable for humans" is being a bit overdramatic...

[@KareSeriouslyKaren]

@@villager736 Okay. And?

[@villager736]

@@KareSeriouslyKaren Fearmongering does nothing except benefit the oil companies anyways.

[@KareSeriouslyKaren]

@@villager736 And how does that work? 'Splain it to me like I'm 5.

[@wolfwalker5924]

The Ark needs to be filled with the best, brightest, healthiest and nicest. This excludes most politicians.

[@QUIKB3N]

*all it excludes ALL politicians.

[@espucs]

🤔 I'd say all😂

[@johnbaxter189]

Battle Star Galactica now!!! We must save humanity

[@Bushman9]

No billionaires either.

[@JZsBFF]

Let them have theirs arks, bunkers or whatever. The real losers will be those who survive climate collapse anyway. WSF.

[@Jaw0lf]

Always enjoy listening to your thoughts, you do plenty of research and have a good way to articulate the information.

[@jamesgrover2005]

It's not great but can we let Mar-a-Lago go under anyway.. just to make a point.

[@manoo422]

Its quite safe from any kind of climate 'anomaly'...we all are.

[@andreasvox8068]

I was seriously disappointed by this years hurricane season. All this destruction and they all missed.

[@kx7500]

@@manoo422boooo

[@irenejohnston6802]

And that Gross artificial, ostentatious monstrosity, Dubai which reflects man's greed, lack of awareness that all life needs an appropriate habitat. Not one swimming in an artificial aquarium. Not to mention, the poor people imported to keep the cogs turning. Need to evacuate them first.

[@richardivonen3564]

​@@manoo422 You have been following a blind man. I recommend that you visit an optamologist.

[@rickyal9810]

I appreciate how you point out the position of Mar-a- Lago on the Florida map, nice touch. Meanwhile, my neighbor in Phoenix AZ just covered his rebuilt house with pitch black asphalt shingles...we aren't dodging this bullet. Edit: The insanity of the "geoengineering" proposals, just...don't. 🤤

[@OxterMcLaughlin]

We all know what side he’s on. He’s on the side that blew up Nord Stream 2. The Dems are champions of greenhouse gases.

[@dextermorgan1]

TDS has entered the chat.

[@IreneCampos-tk2vd]

Ha! you think that if everyone put up solar panels, and eco friendly retrofitting was mandated by law, would make a difference in the sun's unpredictable solar activity?😂😂 This is beyond TDS....you're months away from your hair turning blue

[@JarrodBaniqued]

Ah, the folly of not recognizing the necessity of putting climate adaptation alongside driving down GHG emissions. A true gold mine of targets to laugh at

[@JarrodBaniqued]

just putting this here, btw science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/

[@Nirioonossian]

Industry creates problem. Solution: More industry to fix it.

[@TehPwnerer]

Industry isn't the problem energy from burning carbon is

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@TehPwnerer "Industry isn't the problem energy from burning carbon is" Well, industrialized civilization powered by fossil fuels is what is unsustainable, and both parts of that equation are what is unsustainable.

[@petewright4640]

The scientists don't want these geo engineering solutions but if humanity won't stop emissions of greenhouse gases then it the option of last resort.

[@Nirioonossian]

@@TehPwnerer And who is it that uses most of that energy? 🤦

[@Nirioonossian]

@@petewright4640 And yet none of those are comprehensive solutions. If a quick fix intervention is our last resort, we're already far beyond cooked.

[@ncandrew1215]

Dave, I hope you ignore my other glib comment, I really enjoy your videos. You bring a perceptive and thoroughness that nobody else does. They can, but they don't.

[@Chav-j2z]

There is no technological answer to this mess: technology created the mess in the first place. What you do doesn't matter, what you stop doing does.

[@kx7500]

Technology didn’t create it capitalism and states did

[@JonS]

You present that as though it's some kind of logic-grounded conclusion, but it's not. I'm not saying that geoengineering can fix the climate problem, but your premise that technology can't solve technology-induced problems has no logical basis, and has many counter examples. Here's one: in the mid-19th century the technologies that enabled densely populated cities had turned metropolises like London in to disease-ridden stink holes, with water-borne diseases like cholera killing thousands each year. A technological solution of building extensive sewage and water treatment systems was adopted and the disease and smell problem was solved.

[@Chav-j2z]

@@JonS I clearly said "this mess" [climate change] not every mess.

[@villager736]

This is just a new opportunity for life. With the destruction of the old, something new and better will take it's place.

[@TaiViinikka]

@@Chav-j2z If that's how you feel, you don't need the second part of the statement. Just: There is no technological answer to this mess. Pardon me if I have trouble thinking of other examples of messes that weren't solved with a mixtore of technological prowess and societal resolve. We're missing the resolve part, not the technology.

[@mspicer3262]

"We do not inherit this world from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children". We should do more to keep the interests of future generations in mind...

[@dullumullu]

Inadvertently arrogant. Producing future generations IS detrimental to the world's future. Funny how everybody seems to plead for the privilege of a better world for THEIR children, without questioning their expected "right" to produce children. Stop making babies. Stop future problems.

[@geofffriend4161]

And so Professor Guy McPherson is proving to be accurate in his exposition of peer reviewed papers. Meanwhile, a walk in the fields and woods for anyone over 50 shows the catastrophic loss of all wildlife. Recently, I put food out for the birds as I did at my Grandparents house back in the 60s and 70s - back then within minutes there was a flock of birds within minutes - this time the food remained untouched for hours.

[@oceanbreeze1440]

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[@caterthun4853]

Remember in 60,s company marketing car screen wash to remove insect squashed on wind screen. They would not sell any now. Insects gone. Birds going. Sorry grandchildren they kept it a secret to make themselves a lot of money for private jets and yachts

[@etienne8110]

One observation is not a good sample to draw scientifically reliable conclusions... 😅 That s why we make studies about the amount of wildlife/insects.

[@Michael0663-qo4wx]

@@etienne8110 Many collective observations of the devastating consequences of climate change are useful as anecdotal and circumstantial evidence for scientists and activists. I can personally attest to several climate change differences I notice as well in my lifetime associated with warmer temperatures and natural disasters.

[@mk1st]

Same here: during the summer my truck has hardly any bugs on it after driving. 20 years ago there would have been loads.

[@hydrothermalvent]

Thanks for producing this excellent reality check.

[@TennesseeJed]

"screwed anyway, so let's give it a go"😂

[@volkerengels5298]

_But please doctor, it's so hard for me to let go! __*_"Shit !"_* 'Acceptance' is a thing ppl have to think through 2x or 4x "Swallow whatever comes along - without any other muscle reaction" is a common (insane:) interpretation. "Little by little. Take your time" "Yes - but..." "I accept everything I see"

[@TennesseeJed]

@volkerengels5298 ‽

[@volkerengels5298]

@@TennesseeJed An animal in emergency will shit and then run. I don't see my neighbors being relaxed enough....

[@TennesseeJed]

@volkerengels5298 I see.

[@polygonalmasonary]

I had a little red book about ecology and human pollution back in 1973. It came in a Chemistry set. We knew 50 years ago about this problem and have done virtually nothing since. I believe it is now way past too late to stop the snowball. Some greedy Humans deserve what is coming, the vast majority are decent people who really care but feel absolutely helpless 😣🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧♥️

[@coryjones6966]

Ice melts. All ice that has ever existed ever, has melted. We didn't melt the ice. Ice will ALWAYS melt. You all sound dumb.

[@JSfuckgoogle]

Get a grip!! It's 100% propaganda & The Agenda BS!!

[@achenarmyst2156]

„We have done virtually nothing“ is a bit harsh. Germany, for example, has reduced it‘s national carbon output by 46% since 1990. But it‘s clear that we are very far from doing what‘s really required.

[@jaykanta4326]

@@JSfuckgoogle Dumb denialist is dumb, news at 11.

[@jaykanta4326]

@@coryjones6966 You call others dumb while you can't support your own claims with scientific research and evidence? Pathetic.

[@andrewstafford-jones4291]

AMOC will go first, then the whole northern hemisphere can chill out.

[@PeterBarr-zh6cv]

Absolutely excellent news coverage and analysis. Well done Channel 4

[@screes620]

I doubt America will ever take this issue seriously until one of it's major coastal cities is under water.

[@matthewbaynham6286]

Isn't large parts of Florida flooding regularly?

[@newenglandgreenman]

Once that happens, the United States will no longer exist as such, and many Americans will die thinking that climate change has natural causes, or that the proponents of action to limit climate change are themselves responsible for that change. In other words, "America" will never take this issue seriously. Instead, this issue will destroy the United States and most of the rest of the world. Most people will be too focused on survival to think much about this or any other issue apart from their own survival.

[@brucec954]

But many will say the flooding is because God is mad about the gays etc. Maybe they will act if it can be turned to God is mad at humans for polluting God's planet.

[@Pecisk]

Florida flooded a lot during hurricanes 1 month before elections. Guess what happened. Americans are truly thinking they are the best, and nothing wrong gonna happen with them. Or then they swing in complete opposite being depressed and giving up.

[@Frostbiker]

Not even then. With the current political climate, conservatives will cheer when NYC and SF are flooded. Remember what happened when COVID was spiking deaths in NYC?

[@Moser72]

Based on everything I’ve read and seen, positive feedback loops that we are just beginning to understand have put west Antarctica past the tipping point. There’s an immense amount of inertia at play. And this assessment doesn’t even account for unknown feedback loops. One thing is consistent. The more we learn, the worse it gets.

[@redacted9290]

Just checked the marker on the harbour wall,yup it's still the same as it was when i was a boy 65 years ago. Go figure !!!

[@fenrirgg]

How's that? What harbour?

[@LuisUrquidi-f4b]

I applaud your direct candor. It's a bit like watching a chunk of ice headed for the Titanic. The band plays on, and the captain keeps the throttle down.

[@horus2369]

Spot on, mate. "Damn shame about the fish" is exactly what the dolphins will say as they beam up to their ship and move on to the next planet. There is no chance of fixing this. The major oil companies knew about it before we were born, and the financial desires of the few sacrificed the world in the name of record corporate profits. You mentioned that the second group were out of Edinburgh, which to me, might as well be covington, or Houston. Lots of oil money in those cities, with plenty left to buy scientists, just like they've been doing for decades.

[@maxthaysen5399]

that's not what the scientists are saying. THis is doomer misinfo.

[@TheLRider]

Dave, thank you again for your excellent efforts. I'm just putting this here merely as a thought provoker. I've tried for many years to enlighten various climate change deniers, some of them closish friends. These are some of my attempts at trying to understand why folks don't act differently.. I think that certain personality types are incapable of a) putting themselves in other people's shoes so global events just get batted away so long as they are fine where they are, the educational potential is ignored and wasted. b) Others just don't get sciency things.. They were shite at basic arithmetic at school so no chance imo.. c) Some of the first type also tend to be very selfish and/or self centred and possibly over confident in their own abilities. They're not likely to be moved on from their current thought processes and the status quo because they're doing very nicely thank you.. Nothing should interfere with their journey to plenty and lots more.. d) lots of folks are just too busy and genuinely depend on others to tell them what to think about serious global issues. They're basically not interested in anything outside they're day to day struggles. Anybody please feel free to add delete refine whatever. I just think that human behaviour has to be understood in order to try and move people, at least those in the wealthy economies as we are the big polluters. I'm no human behaviour guru.. They're usually far too busy earning fat salaries bending our minds towards more consumption.. See what you think.. Could make an interesting take on the whole issue..

[@incognitotorpedo42]

I think a big one is that the Right has made climate denialism a badge of tribal identity. This is certainly the case in the US and I suspect a lot of other places as well. They didn't used to be that way. US Republicans at one time recognized that climate change was a problem. Then one day that just stopped.

[@TheLRider]

@incognitotorpedo42 Yes, same here in the UK and yes it never used to be. I think it's part of the Steve Banan & Co strategies to magnify all things that divide us regardless of the cost to us. So many topics are now just used to divide us at every opportunity..

[@everythingmatters6308]

Research and thinking are hard work and most people are too lazy to be bothered. If you acknowledge the problem, you have a moral imperative to change your ways. That's hard, too. Easier to deny and ignore. Digging up your lawn to replace it with native plants or organic food is also time consuming hard work and most people would rather sit on their bums than bust them. Accept that most people just won't do anything. Yes, it's heartbreaking.

[@tallowturq]

Here in Australia as well. Big coal and oil money donations to political parties and radio shock jocks. Plus the evil Murdoch press. Curse them.

[@bloodynorahvan2203]

You summarise the various character types well, as do the other replies here. In effect, battle lines have been drawn. Vested interests on one side, those trying with everything to stop this madness. I can only conclude the human race's natural conclusion is to burn itself out, taking earth down in the process. Everybody in these comments needs now to be giving serious plans and actions into preparing as best they can. And hope for your own sakes that the majority stay blindsided. Resources will be limited. Think about where you need to be.

[@OhAwe]

The scariest part is the great famines and the following wars.

[@codypendant6745]

"Uderwater sea walls made of previously unknown substances...". Brilliant. Reminds me of the old joke about sending renaissance drones to the sun, and to avoid the obvious melt-down, we send them at night. Big cheers to you and this channel!

[@hagvaktok]

Enjoy each day you have. I am sad that I never had children, but as it turns out I am forever thankful I never did. To the people that have chldren, you are very brave. The old Inuit expression is more relevant than ever... rough translation....'hope you die young so you don't suffer'. You say that to a loved one, usually youger than yourself.

[@inyobill]

Oh, well, my beloved president has wished global climate shift away, and we're all saved.

[@geraldmerkowitz4360]

The population was manipulated into believing that obscene wealth was okay, solving climate change means waking up from that belief, but this will not happen until enough people have died. This is how we work. You can only make decisions for yourselves and your loved ones, and brace for the future.

[@eonreeves4324]

we are due for a mini ice age, this is likely the cycle of earth. a mini ice age would lock up the water as ice again. indeed we are due for one. earths trip around the sun is a different every year, it takes 25k years for the earth to pass over it's same orbit again. I am going out on a limb here but - the distance from the sun is not something we have control over.

[@tomspoors768]

As always informative, scary and a tour-de-force of the expositor's art. I'm over on Bluesky singing your praises, Dave.

[@stevehansen6552]

Would it not be easier to just move people further up in elevation?

[@xamishia]

Thanks for your efforts. I think it's also rhetorically useful to point out that the industrial revolution has already caused and is causing large-scale geoengineering, just inadvertently and thoughtlessly. :(

[@michaelLIPKANlcc]

The robot economy is coming, and it will replace existing economic systems. The growth of the systems that will support this robot driven economy is happening very fast. Once the robots are appropriately designed for fixed place manufacturing, the cost of extremely well made, durable quality, products, will begin happening. This, in turn, will mean that we are producing far less waste. This is the process that will make it possible for us to divert energy to make our cities more sustainable with far less energy involved. This sustainability will depend on our resilience and resolve. Essentially, we will greatly improve the complexity of our city design, so that automobiles become unnecessary. cities of the future will generate their own energy, grow their own food, and will supply most things that people need to survive. This is what I call local resources for local purposes. This change in complexity is what I call PROXIMITY POWER. Living close to all your help. Tower towns will become the anchor points for building the linear city network megalopolis that pulls humanity into a much smaller footprint on Earth while improving quality of life and sustainability. This, in turn, allows, the healing of the Biosphere that otherwise could ultimately be our doom if we keep doing business as usual. ---- Linear City Concepts on the web, and on Facebook.

[@bonniepoole1095]

Every dollar (or pound) we spend creates greenhouse gases. STOP spending unnecessary money! TRY to eat locally grown food (start a garden?) Stop traveling, cruising, and driving! So frustrating to say "the corporations are doing this to us; where do the corporations get their money? And this computer cloud and bitcoin stuff has got to go (SO MUCH ENERGY needed!)

[@lohphat]

Local farming uses more fossil files in production and distribution. The economy of scale is a thing.

[@Praisethesunson]

You cannot individual actions your way out of a systemic problem. The biggest polluters don't even sell to you so there is nothing for you to stop buying.

[@petecabrina]

Well tell that to developing countries and tell them to stop improving their lives. The only solution is we need a leap in technology which will allow everyone to be more energy independent on renewables. The reality is this is going to continue into this century and there is nothing you can do about it, by the end of it though we should have the solutions, albeit with some damage done along the way. And no I won't stop traveling and driving because it is paramount to my mental health and getting out and enjoying myself with the people I love.

[@tonyduncan9852]

Been there. Done that.

[@bonniepoole1095]

@@lohphat If AI is correct: Generally speaking, large farms tend to produce more greenhouse gases per unit of food than small local farms, primarily because of their larger scale and potential for greater resource usage, although the exact impact depends heavily on specific farming practices employed by both large and small farms; smaller farms can sometimes have higher emissions per unit of produce due to less efficient operations, but the overall transportation emissions from large-scale farming can be significantly higher due to long-distance distribution.

[@4362mont]

I've found another favorite channel

[@stevewilliams2498]

It is mildly interesting to note that your audience can form a consensus where scientists and politicians can't.

[@ThePilotGear]

easy to make an oppinion about a subject of which we know so little.

[@lzszl]

yes, because you act like a herd not a scientist. if you cannot doubt knowledge, how can you even claim to know. you are forming a consensus of belief, a narrative

[@SimonBlandford]

Truth is not the consensus. Ask Galileo. It is entirely possible for whole populations to believe a lie if it is repeated to them enough from perceived authorities.

[@tealkerberus748]

As a community, we're here because we already have a consensus: climate change is happening, we are seeing and experiencing it now, it's caused (this time) by human behaviour, and the consequences are already nasty and are going to get a lot worse. The idiots who either say "it isn't changing!" or "yeah, it changes all the time, no biggie!" might stop in to troll the comments, but they're not here to listen to a sarcastic Englishman point out how idiotic they are.

[@alexandracarrico1765]

You said it soclearly:stop the massive CO2/Methane dumping and help vulnerable nations.

[@gladyswilliams1148]

Do you realize that on the ocean floor huge deposits of methane are trapped by the pressure? If ocean levels fall that methane will be released.

[@alphamorion4314]

My only real comment is that is... Extremely difficult not to slip into doomerism 😢 I realize it's not the solution, and in fact it might be more of a problem, but still ir's hard to keep a positive or at least tentatively optimistic view about our prospects in the near future.

[@rosamrc923]

Fantastically informed and informative!

[@Frosty294492]

What most people do not understand is that there is no going back. Another Mass extinction has already started. We can only hope to adapt to where ever the new climate system takes us because it has already started to "change".

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

"We can only hope to adapt to where ever the new climate system takes us" That's misreading the science. Every reduction we make in our emissions and consumption will help make the climate a tiny bit less awful and will save more people and species.

[@Frosty294492]

@@HealingLifeKwikly I hope i am wrong but we are 'baked in" for drastic changes, no matter what we do...

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@Frosty294492 Yes, I agree with you on that, but it's important to not fall into black-and-white "it's going to be bad" thinking because the difference between 1 billion people dying and 1 million species going extinct vs. 2 billion people dying and 2 million species going extinct is kind of a big difference, right?

[@Frosty294492]

@@HealingLifeKwikly Yes

[@tallowturq]

It is going to keep getting hotter until we stop pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. So there is really no ‘stop’ point until we stop. The question is: “Can we stop in time or are our leaders too stupid?” Will it get so hot that a catastrophic population decline stops it for us?

[@canny7x]

Seriously, the simplest answer is to begin moving people and infrastructure out of areas that will be affected by a rise in sea level. Of course 'We' won't do this until it's absolutely required, and even then there will be much outcry about the losses we suffer. Let's just hope this doesn't also shut down the Thermohaline Circulation of our oceans... What a 'Fun' time to be alive!

[@whatabouttheearth]

Both the weakening of the AMOC and the weakening of the SMOC would seemingly work to degrade antarctic upwelling which causes the mass global marine migrations (the only on every ocean documentary in existence) due to yearly vertical migration of phytoplankton. If that goes it would not just effect the larger marine life but the absolutely important primary producers like phytoplankton who also provide us land based animals with over 50% of the oxygen we breath.

[@whatabouttheearth]

Both the weakening of the AMOC and the weakening of the SMOC would seemingly work to degrade antarctic upwelling which causes the mass global marine migrations (the only on every ocean documentary in existence) due to yearly vertical migration of phytoplankton. If that goes it would not just effect the larger marine life but the absolutely important primary producers like phytoplankton who also provide us land based animals with over 50% of the oxygen we breath.

[@marsupialdungbucket]

It would also require us to move the vast majority of our food production into non-arable areas, which may turn out to be a bigger problem than moving people uphill. Possibly into the same areas.

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

That would involve publishing the data and showing citizens just how at threat they are. States like to hide the coastline data so people can be blissfully unaware and those coastal cities can remain economic powerhouses.

[@enriquefuentesortega2251]

I reas the first lines and thought: finally! Someone's got the right idea! We need to start moving people off the planet and trying to found colonies 'somewhere". It's the only option now to at least try to keep our species alive, otherwise we'll go the way of the dinosaurs...

[@susananderson5029]

You are a wonder! The descriptions are both valuable and slightly amusing, in a darkish sort of way.

[@LordMagiru]

We are experiencing an Ice Age Termination event and everyone is acting as if it isn't happening and that we can do something about it, Which we can't. Once Ice Age Termination starts it can't be stopped. The silver lining here is that after it is done there will be an extremely stable climate for around 2000 years, deserts will green and life will absolutely explode after which there will be massive speciation of existing species.

[@ChadHoffmanwickalan]

Everything I've read agrees with this. I've age termination event. And we don't have the geo engineer technology to do anything about it yet.

[@coenraadloubser5768]

Actually we're in an interglacial period of the Quaternary glaciation, which began around 2.5 million years ago, and we're far from any dramatic shift into or out of an ice age on a natural timescale. Which takes thousands of years, regardless... Also, we've managed to accelerate things, so saying we don't have the tech is also a cop out. Saying we can't stop something that started, is also ignoring how tipping points work... but sure, if we are past a tipping point, then I believe you do have a point... but doubt it would tip those enthusiastic about doing something towards giving up 😅As for 2000 years of stability, afterwards... I don't know if you've noticed how rock layers mimick seep sand layers on a sand bank... the sand layers are due to daily evaporation... the rock layers? Might be the galactic seasons.....

[@alanhat5252]

With Trump on the world's throne nothing much is going to improve. 😢

[@theeasterbunny8308]

@@alanhat5252 get some help for that TDS 🤡

[@ehundelson1628]

That totally misses the point. Human-caused climate change ON TOP OF natural phenomena will cause untold damage. Spouting one side of that equation, while denying the other is idiotic.

[@RolandPihlakas]

Let's just build a wall ;p

[@incognitotorpedo42]

And make Antarctica pay for it!

[@joymarie3326]

😂😂😂

[@seanlander9321]

Until the tide starts coming into northern hemisphere cities there will be stuff all done to cut emissions or to absorb them.

[@petewright4640]

Which will be too late.

[@macmcleod1188]

​@@petewright4640well... It's been too late since roughly 2010. But we could still neutralize our emissions for about 15 trillion. By the time Northern cities are submerging, there probably won't be any amount of money that can fix it. So you're right.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@seanlander9321 You know the majority of large cities are Ports (for good reason)? That makes them "COASTAL". How about if your Docks are flooded? Your ability to offload then move cargo is gone. That means those living AWAY from the cities don't get the goods that come THROUGH those ports.

[@susantownsend9340]

Thanks for all you do 😊

[@Baekstrom]

I usually click on these videos right away, but I must admit that this dooomsday glacier scares me so much that I would rather not think about it. A bit of a problem, since it should really be front page news all over the world every day.

[@StevenWilkins-y9t]

Only because you have been drinking the koolaid on a non-existent climate catastrophe. Do some bloody research and set your mind to rest - remaining a fool to false science and ridiculous green agenda does not serve you well. WAKE UP BOY you being played for a fool.

[@anomamos9095]

A couple of salient points one. Ice in water doesn't increase the sea level if it melts. Two. The warm water melting the ice is coming from a nearby underwater volcano . In fact the only real climate change dangers to the Antarctic are Global nuclear war and Mount Erebus going postal. Any warming in the south polar region is caused mostly by volcanic activity and for the most part it is the difference between thirty degrees below the freezing point of water and twenty nine degrees below the freezing point of water , it might be technically warmer but it is still well below the freezing point of water so... The only doomsday is when the masses find out they are being scammed and go postal on the scammers.

[@licencetoswill]

every single point completely wrong. The ice we are talking about here is above sea level and thus does contribute to sea level rise. there is little to no geological warming in antarctica, I've spent two seasons there as a climate scientist, and it's all provably anthropogenic.

[@anomamos9095]

@ Santa lives at the other pole. If the ice is on land then it can contribute to sea level rise. If it’s on water then it doesn’t. Even if it is literally on top of the water, unless it’s magically hovering there. Geological conditions play a huge part in oceanic temperatures and anyone who says otherwise is lying. Warm waters from the equator heated by the sun may travel around the globe making some cold places warmer than they would otherwise be . Climate change results from the changes in the temperature of these waters it doesn’t cause the changes in the temperatures of the waters. Carbon dioxide absolutely cannot heat up the oceans. The extra tiny bit of infrared radiation that c02 might provide cannot make it past the first layer of water molecules that would evaporate from the surface of the water, but there wouldn’t be any infrared radiation to begin with as the sunlight doesn’t reflect off the ocean the way it does off other surfaces causing them to heat up . Sunlight travels through the water to a depth of about thirty meters or so heating the water as it penetrates but not releasing infrared radiation as solid surfaces do. The only way the oceans get hotter is if geothermal activity heats them and or additional solar radiation. I won’t say that I doubt your claim of being a climate scientist working in Antarctica but I doubt that you actually have a clue about what you claim to study.

[@1lightheaded]

It is not . Cite me the evidence . The melting is caused by warmer water blown in by winds. This is well understood . Once the ice shelf is gone 400ft cliffs collapse into the ocean and that will increase see level faster. It is easy to see you are fooled by capitalist propaganda , have a versified stock portfolio or you work for them.

[@trixunix5411]

Perfect timing! Just after record snowfalls in the US and Seoul were all around the media, this kind of video suddenly appears. As usual with over the top headlines: catastrophic, doomsday etc. Like street hustlers, this climate grifters always try to make us pay attention to the shiny thing on their right hand while hiding the inconvenient facts with their left hand. Kinda pathetic, really. But effective nonetheless.

[@1lightheaded]

Spoken like a typical chatterbot. You cannot understand the basics of the physics so you vent nonsense . Snow in the northern hemisphere in winter.is proof there is no problem . An appeal to ignorance and incredulity .

[@howard5992]

" we still have snow so the Earth can't be warming " Are you serious ?

[@mendyboio3917]

Thank you for your honesty.

[@648Roland]

It's our kids too. Would have saved a heap of green-house gas and hot air if COP29 and all the previous ones, never happened. Feel I've lived through the best of times being nearly 73. If they'd done something positive when I was born we'd have had a chance.

[@mikejfranklin7000]

I love the idea of an underwater dyke, which like all other dykes will require horrendously expensive extension and reinforcement on a continuous basis. A better idea is for everybody to stop what they're doing, park their cars and walk home, then turn everything off.

[@onetwothreeabc]

You can’t stop people from driving, eating beef, or anything that they want to do. Better tell people to move to higher ground now.

[@mikejfranklin7000]

@@onetwothreeabc Yes, okay, stopping the car etc is a bit silly. But if you want two thirds of the population of Bangla Desh to move to higher ground, you better make space for them in the West.

[@onetwothreeabc]

@@mikejfranklin7000 No, I won't. They need to fight their way to India.

[@mralekito]

The “consensus”. A consensus is a general agreed upon opinion. A “general consensus” is like saying the general general agreement. Unless that’s what you want to say 🤷‍♂️

[@thelasttellurian]

Billions of lives will be lost and ruined because of this. But you got him for choosing a not-optimized word, so you must feel very proud of yourself, don't you? People like you are the reason I have no hope for our species.

[@manoo422]

“consensus” has no place in science...

[@englishcitystone1663]

It does make sense. A general consensus is a consensus among several groups that have already reached a consensus.

[@kx7500]

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[@cookiescraftscats]

@@manoo422The evidence behind that consensus is unequivocal. 🤷‍♂️

[@bartroberts1514]

Sea level rise is far less worrisome -- though it is a great and costly peril -- than storm surge. Storm surge gets worse faster than SLR, by far, as small rise in sea level near costs is multiplied by wave dynamics.

[@matthewbaynham6286]

So basically don't buy property near the sea.

[@wordzmyth]

Yes, who will buy the private house on a sandbank dune with inlet on both sides, in a lovely National park I saw recently? They had their own DIY brush wire erosion protection. Further properties along a super solid retaining wall going up where another higher part of the beachfront had started crumbling. Here in NZ some people and suburbs are being told they will be under the sea in 20 years.

[@bloodynorahvan2203]

True, unless you want to man a ferry or do fishing charters. Also think about the disruption (global transportation) for our food, good etc. Unemployment, poverty, war, where this leads politically. People will want extreme answers to extreme questions. Then the fun really starts.

[@matthewbaynham6286]

@@bloodynorahvan2203 well I wouldn't say transporting the food is much of a problem. Having enough good for everyone on the planet might become a problem in a few decades. But migration might be a bigger problem. Angela Merkel has been critisized for lettin a million people into Germany. However Africa has about 1.4 billion people and if you look forward a couple of decades many parts of Africa won't be able to support human habitation. So where are most of those 1.4 billion people going to go... and the same will be happening with central and southern America as well as large parts of Asia. When migration is measured in the billions then Angela Merkels million won't seem that much.

[@garylpretty]

It's unfathomable (pun intended) that any sane person would explore all of those far fetched engineering projects, rather than just reducing the greenhouse gas emissions. Another thought provoking episode

[@ericmaclaurin8525]

It's unfathomable? Have you seen any serious projection about the results of cut backs alone? That's before you even get into the folly of developing countries enforcing limits.

[@lostvisitor]

It is very easy to cut emissions in half over night. 1. set speed limits to 50mph, HP to 100, vehicle weight to less than 2000 lb. This would make EVs feasible. 2. stop all non emergency air travel. 3. stop letting people drive their 400 square foot home around the country. 4. stop all off road vehiclesfor entertainment. 5. stop the construction of over sized houses. 6. Charge power and fuel on a sliding scale. The more you use the more it costs. Let the rich pay for their over consumption. None of this would hinder the development of the 3rd world. If we don't do it we ALL become 3rd world.

[@johnfurr8779]

We don't need thinking caps. We already know what needs doing . We need political will/balls or populist revolution. Neither is coming

[@davidford761]

You ROCK ❤~ love your work & rye sense of humour

[@mtaylor3771]

Newsflash: When glaciers ADVANCE, big HUGE chunks break off into the SEA. Glaciers advance when the accumulation of snow and ice in their upper regions (accumulation zone) exceeds the melting and sublimation in their lower regions (ablation zone). This imbalance causes the glacier to grow and its ice to flow downhill under the force of gravity. COOLER temperatures or increased snowfall trigger such an advance.

[@rilmehakonen9688]

That's not true at all.

[@Wardr0p]

I will take global warming over global freezing every time.

[@ThePilotGear]

one will follow the other

[@ukdutypaid9]

Unless we can switch off the geothermal heat flow beneath the glacier, NOTHING we do can stop it.

[@1lightheaded]

That seem to be the latest bullshit talking point

[@hologramhouse729]

Thank you for a crisp analysis

[@thelonewolf666]

the earth has a useby date--- and its nearly up as we overpopulate

[@chuckkottke]

Yes, Dave, I agree. The geoengineering "solutions" all look highly impractical. Less cows, more grass. Insulated homes and common sense conservation measures will get us miles further than the pie in the sky solutions. If we do geoengineering, I'm more apt to consider what NASA scientist James Lovelock suggested would only buy us time, though maybe enough time to let the planet come back to normal. I think he was referring to the proposal to use high altitude balloons to disperse sulfur compounds in the upper atmosphere to mimic the effects of a volcanic eruption in scattering and reflecting more sunlight into space, albeit a temporary fix to cool the earth, it might buy us enough time to get our collective act together. 🌎❄️🌱☀️

[@jpdemer5]

Lofting millions of tons of sulfur dioxide to those altitudes hardly seems more practical than spreading insulating or reflective materials across Western Antarctica - and we'd have to do it pretty much every year to maintain the effect from season to season. Not that trying to increase the albedo of _snow_ is a particularly rational approach either, especially given that the primary driver of ice sheet melting is the increasing temperature of the seawater flowing beneath it. Cutting CO2 emissions is the only serious option, but the class of people with power and influence includes too many with a vested interest in the continued burning of fossil fuels, even at the cost of drowning the world's coastal cities. (With new places to dock their megayachts being built as needed.)

[@Debbie-henri]

​@@jpdemer5Yes, because how does the Sulphur get up into the atmosphere? Aircraft? Not exactly a form of delivery we want to use, because thete are already enough of them up there adding to the current problem.

[@filonin2]

The problem is that no one will do that so we will have to use these desperate measures when we start losing all the coastal cities.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

@@jpdemer5 Stratospheric aerosol injection does not cost all that much. I've heard estimates of a couple billion a year. There are multiple billionaires who could personally fund it. Obviously geoengineering is not something to do so we can keep burning fossil fuels. It's something to do to ameliorate the damage after we're on a clear trajectory toward the end of fossil fuel use.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

@@Debbie-henri Yes, essentially a passenger jet with a big tank of liquid in it that gets sprayed out in the stratosphere.

[@righthandstep5]

We're screwed guys! Go solar now amd end oil burning!

[@Glock007-os8xn]

Solar and wind turbines was another scam even worse then fossil fuel. Just another way for politicians to line their pockets

[@jaykanta4326]

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