This CHEAP Brushless Losi NASCAR Is FAST! (Teardown & Upgrade!)

[@justinparker5696]

I give your uploads a 👍before I even watch them, because they are always good. Thanks for all your hard work putting together these videos for us.

[@DoRC]

Thanks I will try to live up to that expectation!

[@justinparker5696]

I've got that exact little motor in my Typhon Grom and it's so smooth and is just the right power for that platform.

[@DoRC]

I've run the same exact setup in I think four different Groms now and never had the slightest problem. Brushless motors are pretty hard to get wrong and I find pretty much all of them work fine

[@roadstar499]

A couple of months ago i upgrades my jjrc 16th scale race car..did 25 mph on stock setup 2s 2000mah...after upgrade it did 40mph on 2s with ridiculous punch...love up grading cheap cars...nice setup...

[@DoRC]

Nice!

[@roadstar499]

Yes,stock was 2440 4500kv 18t pinion...i went 2850 5900kv surpass 22 t...those jjrc chassis are so stable and dirt cheap.. 😊

[@DoRC]

Nice!

[@AllInRc1971]

Man, that's not the blue one. That's the BEST one! Love me some Larson.

[@DoRC]

It has blue in it :-)

[@VS666]

interesting to see if this platform takes off and some stock/modified race series actually come out of it. dirt and clay oval is def taking off

[@DoRC]

It seems to do pretty well in light off-road so should be good!

[@Rcdude2007]

When i first saw this it made me think Arrma Vendetta but smaller. The car looks awesome and i will get the chase elliot one. im interested to see what you will do with this build!!!

[@DoRC]

If you're thinking vendetta / infraction check out my latest video :-)

[@sdmsapphiremodels]

I plan on getting 2 of these, one is staying stock for handling, the other is getting its stuff ripped out to have a more "authentic" driving style, i agree with it being 4WD out of the box, makes it so much easeir to drive

[@DoRC]

Seems like a pretty good plan :-)

[@boduke9428]

Anyone else thinking they just found the platform for their Infraction Grom? If the little MJX Infraction wanna be body will fit on it i think we've got a winner.

[@DoRC]

Yessir!

[@JamieFox-x4m]

Stretched typhon grom!

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

It’s literally right under their nose and they should be making a BLX Infraction Grom. There’s no reason not to. Literally everyone is asking for one. We all know Spektrum is a rebranded Hobbywing, so just throw in a rebranded 16bl30 and 4500kv, call it a Firma 30 amp, with a SLT3 and 315 receiver and call it good for $220 and they’d make a KILLING. You’re welcome, Horizon.

[@gamercat7004]

We need an infraction grom😊

[@politie_jip112]

@@gamercat7004 yes and a vendetta grom outcast and kraton grom fire team grom crawler grom flying and boat grom (i am kidding with these2)

[@mariomozie2102]

Awesome I definitely want to see what you will do next👌

[@DoRC]

I've already done it check my latest video :-)

[@ralphhondaman]

I'm running 3s in mine and I'm impressed with how stable it is.

[@DoRC]

I'm also very surprised. I had mine up to 60 miles an hour off camera on fairly rough ground with fairly low driver skill and it was solid as a rock. I'm sure if I had sneezed it would have been all over but it's pretty stable.

[@AvieMore-s1u]

Was that stock with 3s? And if so how was the temperature of the esc / motor?

[@Maxinator_RC]

Woa, this thing looks fun! Even through I believe its a bit too expressive I can’t wait for you to put castle 1010 + mamba micro X2 esc and just let this thing rip!

[@DoRC]

Check out my latest video :-)

[@RCRoads]

Excellent review. It would be nice if the drive shaft cover was in 2 parts so you only had 4 screws to remove to access the pinion gear. I like long chassis and all the extra room for electronics. Always a pleasure watching your videos for detailed RC information. 👍

[@DoRC]

That would be nice though the cover is a pretty significant part of the structure so having it in multiple pieces probably would have made everything weaker.

[@RCRoads]

@@DoRC We cant have it all. The Grom series of RC's is awesome. I'm a big spectrum fan and love that the cars come with smart LiPo's and super compact radio.

[@Chad-b3q]

I've got a Granite Grom that I'm not a big fan of. Would love to see if you could use the Losi chassis, driveshaft and body mounts to make an off-road NASCAR hybrid using the Granite tires, shocks and arms!

[@DoRC]

Stay tuned :-)

[@jc49fishniner4lif7]

Definitely it should come withe brushless combo already,, difference much better when u did the switch

[@DoRC]

It definitely is better but then again it would be more expensive

[@toolbaggers]

3 hole choices is nice!

[@DoRC]

Yeah should be good for different body styles

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Yes! I was waiting for some maverick to go brushless on this lil guy, because this is the first Losi vehicle I've been excited for this year. It looks like a barrel of monkeys (that's a good thing) to drive. 👍🏽👍🏽 Bonus drinking game: a shot each time "Grom" is heard.

[@Boogie_the_cat]

PS did you hear about how Castle has issues with their little Grom sized motors breaking the shaft? There is a little blurb on Castles website saying that they received many reports of shafts breaking when put in Grom vehicles, and they won't cover it under warranty because it's "user error" and "improper mesh settings" ? That's a bunch of bullplop, and Castle should be ashamed of their failure. If those little, light vehicles can somehow break the motor shaft, in my opinion Castle is doing something wrong with QC or materials quality. If a Grom is too beefy to run a Castle mini motor, then what is the manufacturers assumed use case ? A plastic water bottle and a paper towel roll ? Oh, wait, that's Sesame Street, not Fisher Price, but the point remains.

[@DoRC]

It's not really the grom's fault or castle's fault. I think that the motor that most people are using has two small of a shaft and the Grom Mount is pretty flexible so it just ends up smashing the gears together and breaking the shaft. I use the 1010 motors and haven't had a problem.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@Boogie_the_cat not a castle problem. I agree with castle on this one. Learn to set mesh and use the correct pinion gear (0.5mod is NOT the same as 48 pitch) and they do perfectly well. I have a few Groms with castle 08 series motors. No failures here. Besides, castle 08 series is an old motor that’s been in production for YEARS. All of a sudden they blow up pinion shafts and only in Groms? That’s not a castle problem. Think critically.

[@carlosguterrez995]

Awesome informative videos as always. I’m wondering if the tires and wheels from the 1/14 team associated hoonicorn or hoonitruck would work on the Losi platform.

[@DoRC]

Out of the box no because of the seemingly proprietary hex size but the 12 mm hexes from the other Brahms do fit on these axles which opens up more options

[@gamercat7004]

For the battery tray modification is best to design it as to fill in the holes and place a plate over the stock battery tray to put bigger batteries. Idk about the height hitting the body. The motor to trash shot 😂

[@DoRC]

Yeah that might be the best bet though either way you're probably going to have to come up with a different way to run the strap. I'm really not sure why they did it that way. They could have easily left more room for a battery.

[@gamercat7004]

@@DoRC yea best to have the ends with lined slots and center to strap on the battery.

[@trolltv3722]

gonna order one of those and try running it on an onroad track. Same wheelbase as m-chassis should be fun.

[@DoRC]

Sounds pretty close. I'll have to check out some of the body options.

[@trolltv3722]

@@DoRC i read the wheelbase is 224mm, while the medium m-chassis are 225mm - so that's almost spot on. Guessing m-chassis wheels should fit as well, as they are smaller than average touring car tyres.

[@DoRC]

@@trolltv3722 they might fit physically but unfortunately I don't think they're going to fit the hexes. It seems like Lucy went with a proprietary 8.5 mm hex size. The 12 mm hexes off of the Groms do work though

[@trolltv3722]

@@DoRC Yeah figured I'd either buy the grom hexes, or just check if generic 1/10th scale hexes will fit since axle shaft diameters seem to work out.

[@DoRC]

@@trolltv3722 they won't work for the stock axle shafts because the way the hex is attached the shaft is unique to the Grom line. Take a look at my infraction grom video which is the one right after this one you'll see what I'm talking about.

[@daylightdies7194]

This gives me a thought they might do an infraction grom/felony 🇬🇧

[@DoRC]

I honestly think it would be weird if they didn't. This thing is ripe for being used as an infraction.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@DoRCit should have never been a Losi to begin with. Put a different body on it, call it an Infraction, don’t let Losi touch it, done. Losi has enough oddball stuff right now that’s not long for this world as it is. Mark my words, the ProMoto and Super Lasernut will be gone within 5 years, max. They’ll be rare collectibles. Horizon is killing every brand they acquire, except for Arrma. Arrma is the only success story, I don’t see them discontinuing anything meaningful any time soon. Kraton and Infraction are here to stay, they need to milk every cent from those names

[@acecapone8086]

It sounds cool on the pass.

[@DoRC]

Yeah it's pretty fun and honestly a lot better than the video makes it seem. It's kind of hard to make a little car driving around on road seem too exciting but it is a good time :-)

[@acecapone8086]

@@DoRC good stuff man!

[@DoRC]

@@acecapone8086 thanks!

[@AlbertPerry-f9h]

I’m assuming that the stock speak control was not 3S capable? If not you could’ve been the old voltage up gear down and gotten a lot more speed out of that without going brushless, however increasing to a higher voltage battery would’ve increased the speed on that stock system as long as it could handle the voltage.

[@DoRC]

No the stock system is 2S only and the motors already pretty much at its limit even with the stock system.

[@AlbertPerry-f9h]

@@DoRC Yeah I looked it up and they have it printed really deceptively It says spectrum 2 n 125 amp What they did was miss the space It should read spectrum 2 n 1 , 25 amp lol But that woke it up a lot I also saw they sell the brushless firma system but I’m not sure if that will fit inside that chassis as it appears to be for 10 th scale or larger 8th ish rigs But for a budget minded fast upgrade you probably have less then 100 and most folks have some 3s packs ready and waiting if they’re into the hobby I have all ends from 24 th to 3rd scale stuff I prefer 5th and crawlers but the 5th stuff I need a large area to really run

[@toolbaggers]

When you compare the cost to the Granite Grom, it's something like $30 HH has to pay Nascar for royalties.

[@DoRC]

Yeah you do get physically more car which does cost a little bit more but most of the increased prices probably royalties.

[@just.jose.youtube]

I think you just took it to the sweet spot. Rig looks great now. 👌 Of course more speed and power is always welcomed. 😁

[@DoRC]

Yeah this is about as much power as it can handle but we're definitely going to try for more :-)

[@AlbertPerry-f9h]

@@just.jose.youtube I agree it wakes that up

[@Cliff1119]

Can you still run the stock controller or do you need to change it?

[@DoRC]

You might be able to use it with an SLT3 compatible receiver but most likely you'll just change it out for something else when you use whatever receiver you want to use

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

I just discovered yesterday that these are based on a Grom. I haven’t been paying attention to Losi very much lately. Old school Losi fans would lose their minds over this, and not in a good way. Me personally I struggle with this. Losi in my mind doesn’t have an identity anymore. TLR today is what Losi was 20 years ago. Losi today is… I don’t know what they are. They have so many oddball options in their catalog that they are more like Tamiya than old Losi. On one hand, parts sharing with Arrma is smart, but damn Losi has a huge identity crisis on their hands. On its own merits as an RC model, these are okay, but if I told you this was a Losi 20 years ago you’d laugh at me. I don’t mind Losi changing things up, but the parts sharing with Arrma is the part I struggle with.

[@DoRC]

Yeah not sure. Horizon's in charge of losi so what they say goes.

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

Even 2o years ago they were under Horizon , TLR was still owned by the sons and the father sold Losi to horizon if i understood correctly. Pretty sure it’s all owned by horizon now like arrma “ and original owners are now CEO of there brand . The muggy and the LST was their venture into RTR and there Five T 5th scale is till top Dog imo

[@SmoochieMcgoo]

The miniB and miniT brushless costs more then the Nascar. If brushless were to be offered, it would he significantly more expensive. I feel anything that is "Grom" related is intended for entry-level and with Nascar, Losi is already bumping up against a non-entry-level price. Do we all add brushless to these? Generally, yes. But that is a customer decision. I think the most obvious solution is to offer the Nascar (as well as other Groms) as a roller for a cheaper price, therefore ensuring it stays in that affordable range. Ideally, the Nascar could be offered WITHOUT the Nascar body, so licensing wouldn't be an issue, and costs could come down even more. In addition to entry-level being the goal, I think club racing might have been the goal, too. Club "spec" racing, that is. In that situation, it would be ultimately up to each individual track's rules, but keeping everything stock would ensure an even, and inexpensive, playing field. Should it be offered as brushless? I think not, as that defeats my perceived intention of the vehicle.

[@DoRC]

A roller would be sweet!

[@5280Recreation]

@@DoRCMy main beef is the SLT receiver. I want to bind my iXSR that fits my hand much better than that little thing they provide. Unfortunately because the didn’t, makes stock racing a non starter. A roller would be great.

[@DoRC]

@5280Recreation Yeah it's a bummer they didn't make all of the SLT receivers compatible with DSM.

[@reignman0311]

All the club racing I have seen with this platform is stock and they do have some pretty good racing without a bunch of crashes from going too fast on the oval or road track, j/s

[@small.and.even.smaller]

Looks good. But need clipless body.

[@DoRC]

To be fair I was wrong. The full size car is used clip style bodies. Clipless would be nice though

[@scottbrodie3071]

Nice job, very informative, is the brushless motor used in this video the equivalent to the 380 stock motor? If not do you know of a brushless motor equivalent for the stock 380?

[@DoRC]

I'd say the brushless motor is a fair amount more powerful than the stock 380 motor but I still think it's pretty appropriate for the chassis. Is there a reason why you want the same amount of power as the stock brushed motor?

[@scottbrodie3071]

Thanks for responding, and yes I was looking for a brushless replacement for the stock 380 reasons behind this is consistent motor performance with brushless versus brushed that degrades during use and eventually would need replaced with new motor. My understanding is that the brushless would last longer than me if it was ran within its specifications and wouldn’t need as much maintenance as a brushed motor. I do know that would require a brushless esc and receiver. Taking it out of the stock class racing but possibly a mod class of the stock might happen. Really like the speed as is for oval or simulated scale rc nascar racing. And long run times!

[@DoRC]

@scottbrodie3071 I would recommend giving this set up a try. It's a really reliable combo and where as it does give you a little bit more power than stock It's not a crazy amount and especially on 2S it's definitely a good system.

[@alantaylor353]

Fun fact, doubling the power makes your tyres last half as long but makes you 10 times cooler.! 😉 😉

[@DoRC]

So far I've actually been really impressed with these tires. They do have somewhere on them but they're holding up surprisingly well.

[@jebrc]

Hey do id like to see a longer version of the bigrock grom like they one ya already did but like the actual big rock on the longer chassis like this nascar one

[@DoRC]

Not a bad idea

[@EJ-74]

Definitely should come with a decent brushless system for sure…

[@DoRC]

Yeah but then it would be more expensive so it's always a trade off.

[@anthonyalbanese9023]

I put a spectrum 2s brushless all in one but no grip, I cant find rod tires to fit ..... any suggestions the servo sucks too lol

[@DoRC]

Unfortunately you're probably not really going to find tires that get good grip especially with increased power. This is a very light very small car and traction just isn't something that is going to be easy to come by.

[@anthonyalbanese9023]

Did you find the Typhon Grom handled the speed better?

[@DoRC]

@@anthonyalbanese9023 off-road definitely. On road not entirely sure.

[@roadstar499]

Very cool ...😊

[@DoRC]

Thanks for watching :-)

[@jgrc73]

Big problem with these is that they make it really hard not to use terrible spectrum electronics. Other than that it's a sweet street version of the mini t

[@DoRC]

True though check out my latest video. The fusion 16 definitely makes things easier.

[@BenLloydRacing]

What’s the brushless you used called? Complete newbie to RC looking at potentially upgrading mine

[@DoRC]

It is a keenso 3600 KV motor from Amazon and a hobby wing 10 BL60 ESC.

[@dylanwhite6539]

Did you happen to measure the stock motor temp after a full pack? My granite was at 270 which I seriously doubt is healthy.

[@DoRC]

I didn't but I could smell it so it was probably pretty unhappy.

[@WowoodogPlays]

I might just get one of these someday

[@DoRC]

It's pretty cool little car.

[@jameymiller5585]

Can you make the upgrade and use the factory remote?

[@DoRC]

If you upgrade the ESC you have to get an aftermarket transmitter and receiver as the receiver is built into the ESC

[@ayitsyaboi]

Seeing that car running in sand made me die inside lmao.

[@DoRC]

If you think that's bad check out the video right after this one :-)

[@davidlocke3037]

Links to the motor and ESC? That u swapped in

[@DoRC]

I don't normally do links but you can Google the ESC. They are sold lots of places. The motor is available from Amazon if you look up the brand and model I state in the video you'll be able to find it. Thanks for watching :-)

[@FatherandSon_RC]

We all agree that Losi needs to release brushless versions now that Arrma has, right?

[@DoRC]

Would be nice though even the brushed current version can overpower the tires pretty easily on smooth surfaces

[@ZackT92]

Does anyone have the link to these parts? I’m new to this and would love to upgrade my car

[@DoRC]

I describe each thing I use in the video. You should be able to do a Google search to find them.

[@KDcharger71]

They nailed the realism with the low hp motor LOL

[@DoRC]

I'm not sure this has the equivalent of 670 scale horsepower.

[@KDcharger71]

@@DoRC just being underpowered in general is a big argument in the sport. Alot of fans and drivers want 800-1000 hp.

[@DoRC]

@@KDcharger71 gotcha. Yeah it's always a trade-off between how exciting the sport is and how many drivers get killed every year. There's a reason they restrict the horsepower and it's not to make it less fun to watch.

[@KDcharger71]

@@DoRC they say it saves the teams all money too.

[@DoRC]

@@KDcharger71 Yeah that's possible

[@Nerm78]

Great tear down and build as always! Please don't put Xmaxx wheels and tires on this one!

[@DoRC]

Hmmm:)

[@Jangmo88]

I’m a NASCAR guy looking to get into it, but I think its cost is bad for how slow it is stock.

[@DoRC]

Absolute top speed is pretty low but they're actually fun cars even out of the box.

[@Justin_Newman]

It’s so much more expensive because the licensed body and teams on the body I think the price isn’t bad for what you get.

[@DoRC]

Yeah they're definitely paying a premium for that and it's a cool car. I'll be curious to see if they come out with an infraction for less money.

[@peopleschampgarage7869]

What parts did you buy?

[@DoRC]

It's all detailed in the video :-)

[@EJ-74]

NIIICE 👌

[@DoRC]

Glad you enjoyed. Check out my latest video!

[@dylanwhite6539]

This should really be a brushless rig for more money, say like 225ish, or have been more like $150. I think a lot of people justify it by saying the Mojave is $150 so it’s just $30 for the nascar licensing, but that makes the mistake of assuming the Mojave is worth $150. I would argue none of the grom platform cars earn their price tags. They have a weaker driveline than many of the small brands out there, I would say that $125 is the top dollar that any of them are really worth. It’s also a shame that the granite buyers just get shafted on the motor cooling situation. It’s not that hard to mount a fan on top of an appropriately designed heat sink even the competition like redcat use larger 390 motors for around $100 instead of 130+. I just sold my granite grom for $80 and haven’t looked back.

[@DoRC]

I think the Grom line wins an overall quality ease of repair and maintenance availability of parts and upgrades. You do pay a premium for those things though.

[@rogueFactor]

that body looks thicker than the real NASCAR bodies.

[@DoRC]

So far it seems reasonably stout.

[@toolbaggers]

On-road Gorgon?

[@DoRC]

Hmm:)

[@oriolinton]

how big is this truck .. everyone keeps tallking about it but not mentioning the size of it..

[@DoRC]

Wheelbase is 9 in and the whole thing is about 13 in long.

[@jeffatkins8103]

I see back order parts in your very near future.

[@DoRC]

Eh?

[@bernardolumang9938]

Where can I buy one?

[@DoRC]

Check Horizon hobbies. I don't know if they're in stock currently or not though

[@ricketkm]

Link to parts please

[@DoRC]

Sorry I don't do links but the motor is available on Amazon and you can get the ESC just about anywhere.

[@RaiuAdami]

While brushless would be nice out of the box, with all the licensing losi had to do I don't see it being possible

[@DoRC]

I agree and this thing's actually pretty fun brushed. It definitely has a decent amount of power though it is more fun with more power :-)

[@jasonkessinger8062]

Should have run it 2s

[@DoRC]

I appreciate the feedback. I did end up running it on two as I just ran out of time to put it in the video.

[@andydemeo2437]

It should absolutely come brushless out of the box.

[@DoRC]

It would be nice but of course that would make it more expensive.

[@Rcjamaica876]

No need to change servo???

[@DoRC]

I personally haven't had any issues with the stock servo. Check out my video after this one where I put even bigger tires on it and put it through more abuse. I think this is my fourth or 5th Grom now and I haven't replaced a single servo.

[@Rcjamaica876]

Ok will go so can I put a surpass 3650 6000kv with a 150amp esc for 4s could that motor fit ??

[@DoRC]

@@Rcjamaica876 almost certainly not. That's a massive motor. I don't know if they make a motor mount that will work for it but I don't think it'll fit the stock area.. The 1010 I put in the second video is just about as big as you can get away with in diameter.

[@joebolthouse707]

The real nascar cars use hood pins so it makes sense for these to use body clips.

[@DoRC]

You know what you're right. I just looked. For some reason I thought they used a flush style pin system not the standard old school one. I stand corrected :-)

[@politie_jip112]

i cant get that motor in my country you have some diffrent options?

[@DoRC]

Unfortunately at least over here the options for appropriate motors with the appropriate shaft size are very limited. Since I don't know what you have available over there I really wouldn't be able to make any suggestions.

[@politie_jip112]

@@DoRC any 2440 or 2445 and kv suggestions + pinion gear

[@DoRC]

@@politie_jip112 for 3S around 3,500 KV seems good. If you get a hot racing 1/8 in bore mod 0.5 pinion it'll open up your motor options a lot.

[@politie_jip112]

@@DoRC a hotracing pinion is about €17,50 on aliexpress and a 2445 3600kv is €20,80 also i can go with a 16bl30 if i get that motor

[@DoRC]

@@politie_jip112 Yeah 16 BL30 should be fine For most use cases.

[@qfc1313]

Why are you saying Grom when the Groms are Arrma, are they the same company in the background?

[@DoRC]

Yes Horizon owns both Losi and Arrma. This vehicle is on the ground platform and shares most of them basic components and design with the Grom vehicles.

[@qfc1313]

@@DoRC ohh didn't know that, thanks for the information.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@qfc1313go look at exploded views of these Losi Nascar models. They are littered with ARA part numbers. Compare them side by side with any Arrma Grom and you’ll see A LOT of parts sharing

[@Justmy4cents]

what is a Grom?

[@DoRC]

It's a platform created by Arrma. It includes several vehicles Is the platform this vehicle is based on

[@Justmy4cents]

@@DoRC Thank you!

[@3sgteyota]

I wonder why losi/horizon lists this as a 20-60+ mph car?

[@DoRC]

Probably because the platform is technically capable of it with enough power? I don't know.

[@DoRC]

Probably because the platform is technically capable of it with enough power? I don't know.

[@juliusdream2683]

How many times did he say grom?????

[@DoRC]

163

[@lowridr2]

ok i need 1 or 3

[@DoRC]

Definitely a fun car!

[@aiwaloki]

Poor Losi... Just a rebrand lable now..😢

[@DoRC]

I don't know if that's necessarily true. It is platform sharing but this is far from just a relabeled current Grom model.

[@toolbaggers]

They still have TLR. That is closer to pre-HH sellout.

[@justinfraziet6843]

This is NOT the updated diff! Not for that Mojave grom anyways. Those two little plastic gears are the ones the metal gears in the center strip so easily. Mine lost the rear end in 4 battery packs. Arrma all metal diffs ar 50.00 US for front and rear. Cvd axles will also have to go. Highly recommend Hot Racing HR! Around 26.00 US for each. Also, great choice here on ESC! AWFUL choice on motor...

[@DoRC]

You're thinking of the upgrade diffs that have been available as an option since the first Grom was released. This is the updated stock diff that was introduced with the Mojave. It has revised plastic output cups and metal internal spider gears.

[@justinfraziet6843]

@DoRC hell no it aint!!! I bought it day one. They are the same stock diffs. Because I have them all together in a plastic little bag. 4 of them! All been taken apart. All exactly the same! Plastic at the ends! Metal in the center. The metal gears strip the plastic gears on the end. YOUR COMPLETELY WRONG TRUST ME! They didn't upgrade shit

[@harisjaved1379]

lol I feel like Honda is going to sue Arrma and anyone else using “grom”

[@Dankboi420]

Nah they are not Traxxas

[@DoRC]

Maybe they'll get Traxxas to do it for them :-)

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Nah. Honda is FAR bigger than any RC company. Hardly worth it. Meanwhile, Hyundai just came out with the Ioniq 5 XRT, I wonder if Traxxas will chase them over that.

[@toolbaggers]

@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe It is an electric truck so....

[@Daytonafox1]

Gutted it's 1/12th.

[@DoRC]

Were you hoping for 1/10?

[@Daytonafox1]

@@DoRC yep the NAPA livery one looks ace.

[@johntuffy5721]

meh

[@DoRC]

The car or the upgrade?

[@brianlangford7278]

Here we go just worried bout how fast it'll go straight n not how it races ,come on you tubers, why not worry bout how to tune better n race,geez

[@DoRC]

Because I'm not a racer. If I was that's what I'd be worried about but I'm a basher so how fast it goes and how well it bashes is what I'm interested in :-)

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Let’s see your video of you tuning and cornering on a track in traffic. Go ahead. I’ll wait.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@DoRCyou do your channel however the heck you want. Leave these losers left on read. Don’t even humor them

[@DoRC]

@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe I appreciate the support! That being said I don't mind talking to people. Everybody has their opinion and some people feel strongly about it. It's okay :-)

[@brianlangford7278]

@DoRC then buy speed cars ,and why should we care about your opinion of a race car,wow

[@ianjohnhorwood2605]

would i buy a HORIZON HOBBY budget comprimised RC car today ? 🤔 nah 🤣🤣🤣 . Hell , I won't buy any RC budget wise RC car than anything less budget than my LC RACING EMB-RA RALLY cars , truggies and buggies 🤔 , and they handle way better than any budget horizon hobby model 🤣🤣🤣 , plus LC RACING chassis look way cooler than anything that comes from horizon hobby's budget line RC'S 🤔 🤣🤣🤣

[@DoRC]

Maybe so. LC racing does make nice stuff.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

😂😅😅😅😂😂😅😂😂😅😂😅😅😂😅😂😅😅😂😅😂😅😂😂😅 I didn’t read anything you said. 😂😂😮😂😮😢😅😢😅😢😅😢😊😢😅🎉

[@skree_fpv436]

I absolutely love my emb-sct. I've had for almost 10 years and still love driving it. It's got pretty much all the upgrades on it. You are right about the amazing handling. I used to do carpet racing with it but my track closed down a while ago so now I just bash it around. I'm thinking about converting it over to the rally. What wheels and tires do you use for your rally? The stock LC Racing ones?

[@torpedoLaw]

lol just a toy for sure …. Folks just get a traxxas slash!!!

[@DoRC]

they're all toy cars :-)

[@PFinkoloTL87]

Slash 💪💯 I got one with a Hobbywing combo in it. My best RC.