Dorje Shugden: My side of the story (Part 4 of 4)

For the first time ever, H.E. Tsem Rinpoche speaks on film about the World Peace Buddha and Dharma Protector, Dorje Shugden.
Dear respected friends,
I have been asked many times to speak about Dorje Shugden. After much consideration and direction from my teachers and protector, I decided it is the right time. When I speak about Dorje Shugden there are many factions and people I must consider:
~Those who practice Dorje Shugden and respect the Dalai Lama
~Those who do not practice Dorje Shugden/anti-Dorje Shugden and follow the Dalai Lama
~Those who don't practice Dorje Shugden and have no relations with the Dalai Lama
~Those who had relations with the Dalai Lama but are not allowed to anymore because of their Dorje Shugden practice
~Those who practiced Dorje Shugden and renounced it and follow the Dalai Lama
~Those who appear to have renounced the Dorje Shugden but practice in secret and follow the Dalai Lama
~Those who have fully renounced the Dalai Lama and follow Dorje Shugden
~Those who follow Dorje Shugden and do not respect the Dalai Lama
~Those who do not want connections with the Dalai Lama even if the ban against Shugden is resolved
~Those who would like connections with the Dalai Lama when the ban is resolved
~Those who are neutral on either point and many other combinations
~My teachers and mentors
~His Holiness the Dalai Lama himself
~The monasteries and my monastery
~My friends and students
So however I speak there will be factions who are happy and unhappy. It's hard to please everyone. But I thought if I speak from my heart, to the best of my abilities and how I see things, that would be the best I can do. I hope I can clear some ignorance about this issue.
Here in the four-part video I speak about how I first became connected with Dorje Shugden, why I practice and continue to do so, the monasteries, the CTA (previously known as Exiled Tibetan Government), China, relations between China and Tibet, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, our lineage lamas, my teacher, H.H. Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, the protests and how we can resolve this ban issue. My views may suit you or it may not. But I have honestly expressed my views. All I can do is be honest about myself, my feelings and my practice. In the end it is my choice but in my case, my choice could affect a lot of people in various ways. So I always try to take the approach that is just honest about my feelings based on knowledge, observation, history and the results I have observed.
I thank everyone involved in the production, editing, rendering, transcript, translating and funding for all this work to be done. Many people have donated resources, funds, time and their hearts to this project. Much time and effort was invested. You have all done an incredible job with good motivation. Thank you for your work, contributions, compassion and care. You have my deepest appreciations.
For my friends around the world who are reading this and who have viewed the videos, I thank you for your time, attention and thoughts. I hope my sharing in these videos will help toward this Dorje Shugden ban conflict. I sincerely hope many will understand the situation much better leading to a peaceful resolution for everyone concerned.
Tsem Rinpoche
For more pictures and the transcript: www.tsemrinpoch...
CONTENT 内容
1) I request His Holiness to find a solution and end this conflict 我请求至尊达赖尊者找寻解决方案以终止此纷扰: 00:20
2) If Dorje Shugden is evil, just bind and subdue him 若多杰雄登是邪灵，那就降伏他好了: 11:27
3) The Tibetan government must take responsibility to create peace 藏人领导必须负起创造和平的责任: 24:57

[@BeautifulThingBoutiq]

It is just so sad……I teared after watching this final part of his side of story. Tsem Rinpoche was so sincere, genuine and passionate about the Dharma, and he tried so hard to make his students realize the importance of kindness, love, compassion and bodhicitta……wherever he is I pray for his speedy return and pray that in my lifetime I will get to meet him and receive his teaching in person. Thank you so much for sharing. 🙏 I just found his channel earlier this month. Already I have to listen to his teaching every day, even just for 5 minutes, because I know I will get some benefit to help my Dharma growth.

[@sebee555]

Me too. His teachings have only helped...I also pray for the same :) /\

[@yudi0115]

Me too. I recently came across his teachings which are helping me to continue my dhamma practice, including Dorge Shugden. I look forward to his swift return.

[@ameoba44]

It really saddens me to hear how such a beautiful religion that promotes peace allows all this conflict to happen. I hope this conflicts ends as soon as possible. Lets all respect each other and allow everyone to practice whatever they believe in. I am a westerner and i see these conflicts everyday, and thats why i turned to buddhism, because it gives me hope. Thank you H.E. Tsem Rinpoche.

[@wanwaimeng]

+ameoba44 Yes i hope so this conflict can be resolved peacefully, before someone gets hurt. Well I believe in Buddhism coz it makes a lot of sense and it is very logical.

[@CyndiGeary]

Dear Tsem Rinpoche, Thank you so much for sharing and explaining your side of the story (done in these videos). I have the highest respect for you and the methods of how you teach Lord Buddha’s teachings! Again thanks a million for all your teachings through KZbin, Blogs & etcs... I am very grateful to come across your teachings through this platform (after praying to receive Mahayana Buddhism). Wishing you infinite blessings to achieve spiritual aspirations to attain Enlightenment... Namo Tsem Rinpoche, with hands folded I approach for refuge. 💛🙏📿 ~Cyndi Geary

[@timmiwally]

Just watched all four parts of this again, the honest logical reasoning is inspirational

[@wanwaimeng]

Thank you very much for the feedback, Rinpoche has many fans. If you like to know more do check www.tsemrinpoche.com

[@christineso231]

Timmi Wally Thank you very much for your comment. Rinpoche explained precisely why and how did he devote himself to Dorje Shugden in these four part of teaching videos. So that let us have some kind of ideas about this protector before we devote ourselves to him. ☺

[@saraswati999]

I do not understand the aspects of conflict here to much , but every word coming from Tsem Rinpoche is beyond my awe what inspirational Teacher He is was i just learned he passed away and feel very very sad

[@saraswati999]

I am listening to this not become i am for or against this particular conflict but because the Teaching coming from Tsem Rinpoche is such LOVE ❤️ what a loss this world has to lose Tsem Rinpoche

[@rakeshbodhkhampa-rbk6199]

i do agree with Tsem Rimpoche, yet iam a Nygima. whatever honorable Rinpoche said is true.

[@gohjacinta28]

Hi Rakesh. Where are you from? Perhaps you can share more on what was in your mind about this ban and the suffering of DS practitioners in particular?

[@rakeshbodhkhampa-rbk6199]

+Jacinta Goh , iam an indian but my forefathers were from Kham they settled here centuries ago.

[@gohjacinta28]

Oh, I see. Were they DS practitioners? Was there any discrimination?

[@9shintan]

Thank you Rakesh for your support and comment.

[@yekyee]

Wonderful teaching from H.E. Tsem Tulku Rinpoche about Dorje Shugden!

[@jangchupchoden7460]

"If the Dalai Lama, if His Holiness the Dalai Lama can be harmed by Dorje Shugden, then we might as well not practice Buddhism anymore. If His Holiness the Dalai Lama can have his life shortened by a so-called evil spirit, any evil spirit, then can he be Avalokiteshvara? So on one hand you say, we say, I say, everybody says, he is Avalokiteshvara; on the other hand you’re saying that he can harmed by an evil spirit... Which one is it? Can he harmed by an evil spirit or is he Avalokiteshvara? Do you think Avalokiteshvara, Manjushri, Vajrapani, Tara all take refuge in something else to protect themselves from Dorje Shugden? How illogical is that? How illogical of people to say His Holiness the Dalai Lama can be harmed by an evil spirit, any evil spirit or “Dorje Shugden” evil spirit. How is that possible?" - Tsem Tulku Rinpoche

[@henryooi001]

Please don't use rude and vulgar words here, it's not appropriate. You have your opinion and belief, so do others. Freedom of speech doesn't mean using abusive speech just because you disagree with others' opinion and religion. Religious freedom should be practiced freely with no harmful intent.

[@T-id8cs]

he was so sincere and humble , wish i found him sooner. missed him. sad to hear hes gone

[@jyseoh]

This rinpoche is opening the bright future of the Tibetan Buddhism.

[@tanjuneteng]

How can Tsem Rinpoche be cheating if i have benefited out from his teaching. Who are u alla to say that Dorje Shugden is evil and bad. Pls dont be disillusioned... dont make the public confused. Just check on my profile and alla. People will know...

[@TheSockwan]

Tsem Rinpoche's guru Kensur Jampa Yeshe Rinpoche (Abbot of Gaden Shartse then) introduced Tsem Rinpoche as the reincarnation of the 72nd Abbot of Gaden Shartse to H.H. the Dalai Lama. His Holiness confirmed Tsem Rinpoche's recognition as a Tulku (Rinpoche). More information on Tsem Rinpoche's biography please follow this link: www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/me/my-short-bio-in-pictures1.html#4

[@albertaddad364]

i was told from two lamas in south of india , that dorje shougden is the oracle that advice dalai lama to live lhassa soon et that so called lamas said to me that they were his body guard when he passed the indian border

[@Jsmithyy]

noted we need to bring all of the lamas with us this is an amazing journey , leave not one lama behind they are so precious it does not matter who beats the drum what matters is our children are beating the drum be nice lets allow every Rinpoche to be doing great work

[@albertaddad364]

i am upset for you rinpoché you are not guilty you just follow your roots lama ,no one hav the right to blame you or judje you

[@Gevedon]

Thank you

[@albertaddad364]

you know even if he is avalokita eshvara he is a humain being with a dark side and more he is pure more the evil part is strong my roots lama is kalu rinpoché and i also meet lama guendunne and no one could convince me to deny them ,as he say himself dalai lama is just a monk a trappa

[@khokonibrahim824]

💛

[@albertaddad364]

is it true that dorje shougden is the nirmana kaya of manjushri ?

[@Jsmithyy]

please note the picture of the Zong Rinpoche in the background of this video if you require taeaching about the song Rinpoche those who walked before him and those who will walk after him I'm good to go on this

[@Jsmithyy]

noted song taught Rinpoche tsem all that he knwows the correct view very cool monk this one , where there is no daharma let there be dharma as long as my shoulders are strong enough to bear the huge weight of the global suffering may I take this weight on my shoulders and allow my leaders to show the way

[@chinamoon6308]

🌸🌸🌸💕

[@albertaddad364]

i am kaguu/ningmapa and i know the khyentsé do fire puja like dilgo khyensé ans normally pelden khyensé eusser , i also knew dudjom terton finpoché so i respect chépa dorjé i dont know much of dorje shougden , i just saw you and an irritated form of your master and i dont involve in politic so i dont blame ,sorry for my english am french

[@Jsmithyy]

please understand the Rinpoche position everyone is allowed to do what they want to do , in fact 400 years is short time like baby time however the middle way is the way

[@karencontestabile6064]

OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SOHA!

[@pedrosoledad3141]

Saddhu. Saddhu. Saddhu.

[@wanwaimeng]

Rex Tse Hi Rex are you in Malaysia? Do come check out our centre at Sunway Mas. Do you read Tsem Rinpoche's blog, it has many inspirational stories and ones that help us to understand ourselves and our world better.

[@pedrosoledad3141]

Wai, Thanks for the gesture. I am from California, so it's a bit far lol. Tsem Rinpoche indeed sounds like a great teacher. It must be incredibly lucky for you guys to be under someone who is qualified to guide.

[@wanwaimeng]

Rex Tse Yes we are very fortunate to receive teachings and care from His Eminence Tsem Rinpoche :) . Do you use whatsapp ? I share certain news and updates from kechara and Rinpoche via whatsapp :) .

[@wanwaimeng]

What seems to be the problem?

[@wanwaimeng]

We have religious freedom in Malaysia so no need to pity me. NKT has no relevance to me. You boast u have this initiation or that, sure ok u have it but I think tantra is not about showing what u have. If it is u have missed the point about tantric practice. Tantric practice one who has it should be more humble and not show off. Then it becomes spiritual materialism I've got this teacher and i have got this practice ladida. Dorje Shugden, Vajrayogini and Je Tsongkhapa should be sufficient for an ordinary practitioner like myself.

[@Jsmithyy]

perhaps my beloved Tsem Tulku is the most verbose one in history isn't it true ?

[@darekkinasz8933]

Rinpoche what are you saying please check H.H Dalai Lama on KZbin what He had to say about this topic☺ from even so dumb person like me appear just one question .who is more right you Rinpoche or H.H? what do you think

[@christineso231]

Are there any logical reasons to ban on the practice of worshipping Dorje Shugden?

[@sebee555]

What is correct is samaya to one own guru. It's guru devotion which is the foundation of all practices. Your guru could be living in seclusion in the mountains or be a great lama on a throne...that's all external.