Kel'Thuzad RETURNS in 11.0.7… But He's Changed!

[@Doronsmovies]

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[@tjamanirlong6159]

Kel thuzard is like your saterday cartoon villain :D he always be back ^^

[@cyrusthegreat3299]

Saturday*

[@norbicsek90]

I think that title matches with Ragnaros more precisely! 😅

[@danritz1135]

​@norbicsek90 kel'thuzad has returned more now this will be the 4th expansion featuring him and proving one thing: "There won't always be a lich king, but he'll always be the king of liches.

[@Xainfinen]

Well, it's more like he never left. Kel'Thuzad is one of the few characters that was not simply "a step ahead" of everyone else, but an actual visionary, a pure prodigy, one of the Leonard Da Vinci of Azeroth. This include Illidan, Aegwyn, Ner'zhul, and a few others that I can't recall ATM. The way the story was written before, these were either the ones that helped us survive impossible odds across several decades, if not ages, or the vilains that got us into world ending mess. They're high IQ people in a world of magic with the benefice of insight close to that of an actual spectator. At some point if you can master the arcane, split or make echo of yourself ain't no way you wont make shadow clones to do much stuff on the side, or create your own pocket dimension, horcrux or whatever else. Lorewise some of the most powerful High Priests, Highlord Paladin & Archdruids (mainly our characters) could heal the Plaguelands, the Dead Scar, and Desolace with little preparation but only after 4 decades of non stop challenges. Just think about the few characters that could already do it 50 years ago, that's how you understand how truly powerful Ner'zhul and Kel'Thuzad were/are and that Gul'dan was nothing in comparaison.

[@Pigraider268]

He was such a cool character in WC 3 eh...

[@jordanpendleton9686]

Doron, I dont think this kelthuzad is real, but probably closer to the simulacrum of sindragosa in dragon flight. A bit of memory, advanced magic, but overall, still just a leftover shadow. I feel like since this is a quest about the kirintor, its showing us their greatest failure, how a quest for just power without purpose is empty and the only thing remaining is just an echo of past ambitions. The kirintor need a new direction, not just hoarding magic, but using it for the benefit of azeroth

[@MyraAmherst2018]

exactly

[@CrobatmanIamthenight]

Similar to kalecs mirror image

[@ralph4370]

plus every phalactary jar we destroyed would be retconned meaning everyone can comeback?

[@turnstanley9737]

Lmao yea bro he's a lich. And he doesn't speak as if he knows events that have recently happened

[@JayR-t8r]

I mean, that was kinda obvious lol.

[@CristianDCure]

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[@MegapixelRBD]

Somehow, Kel'thuzad returned

[@ScarlettSpitfyre]

Same level of writing... From these writers and everyone like them from all of entertainment, everyone comes back, with a little twist: some connection, change or a retcon that links them to The Message... Their Message...

[@yoremothra9838]

His phylancary had a tiny phylancary.

[@TheMrToxin]

If I had to guess, it's possible that this is another 'soul split' like the one Uther had. I know that lore comes from Shadowlands, but since KT's story was finished in Shadowlands, maybe they want to continue it from there, and first step is making a split soul that can exist separately from the Lich one.

[@SlendisFi_Universe]

TBF I smell alternative time line Kel'Thuzad

[@corbin_4738]

Does that mean Arthas is still alive in an alternate timeline - able to come back? ....

[@KackfeeLP]

How many time do we have e you teach this lesson old man?

[@tatalsaba]

Kel'thuzad is a good character to bring back, he's iconic, he's got loads of lore behind him, and the way this is seemingly done, it opens the door for other powerful mages to return in a similar fashion, like Antonidas and Rhonin. Plus, since Kel'thuzad read in the book of Medivh, there's loads of stories that can be played out in the future.

[@hobosnake1]

We saw Medivh in a weird spirit-y form at the end of return to Kara. Medivh is active. Can't wait for him to come back to the story.

[@mintx1720]

What kel'thuzad needs is, obviously, family, right kalec?

[@kenisantonio3889]

For me, he had to become a permanent boss like a headless horseman. Every year the scourge attacks with its floating necropolis . Raid with some bosses defeated from the expansion of the year, but revived with necrotic magic

[@JohnPirring]

I like the warlock Kel'Thuzad. The warlock is s necromancer whom toyed with forbidden powers snd wore the warlock's Kel'Thuzad regalia.

[@tails230]

"Of course I can't die and be forgotten in Warcraft, I'm Kel'thu'freaken'zad!"

[@patrikzotaj4528]

we killed him in naxxramas and now sanctum of domination.

[@captainsean3602]

Kel'minator is back once again. I really hope for Dalaran restoration in its original location, revealing many secrets that remained to the rest of the Azeroth hidden...

[@Barlo.B.WoWing]

Kalecgos: The explosion effected long range teleportation, I couldn't get here until now. Me: Bro I literally teleported to and from Stormwind ten times today. I won't even talk about how many times in the last month and a half.

[@epiccthulu]

undo shadowlands lore is a weird way to describe them making lore that couldn’t exist without shadowlands. “Undo Shadowlands lore” just sounds like the biggest coping mechanism

[@galten7361]

@epiccthulu Kel'thuzad was just misused in Shadowlands this is them trying to use him being a fan adored villain.

[@epiccthulu]

@ Not what I was commenting on, however. There is this notion that WoW is moving away from Shadowlands lore, but Shadowlands lore has been referenced endlessly since this expansion

[@hobosnake1]

​@epiccthulu not sure what's hard to understand. Blizzard messed up beloved characters and lore in Shadowlands. Since TWW and even a little in dragonflight, they've been distancing the story from shadowlands. Obviously you can't just put the shadowlands genie back in the bottle. But they're trying to do right by those characters, portraying them as they should have, not some bastardized version for the bad story that was shadowlands. I mean, what aren't you getting?

[@epiccthulu]

@ Nothing you said counts as “undoing” Shadowlands. As a matter of fact, every lore point people are talking the most about was presented in Shadowlands. So it is hilarious that you are saying they messed up the lore when none of the theorists can stop referencing it

[@hobosnake1]

@@epiccthulu there's two different things that you're conflating to be the same. You're conflating the overall lore and background with the narrative of am expansion. The long term lore questions we get from shadowlands: was the primus the actual bad guy of the shadowlands? Was he using domination on zovaal? Do the titans have a hand in the shadowlands being the way it is? Those are the questions that lore speculation is covering. People like pyromancer who have called things correctly in lore over and over again. From a macro standpoint, shadowlands is actually kind of cool. Narrative execution in the expansion? Very lame. Cheapening of WC3? Very lame. Zovaal being a character we actually understand? Nah they messed that up. But the big questions and reveals like Argus soul breaking the arbiter. That stuff was cool! Just my two cents as someone who follows this EXTREMELY close.

[@bauscheusse]

'How many times do we have to teach you a lesson, old man?!'

[@richardsargent9252]

I feel like kel'thuzad being back simulacram or otherwise in a capacity like this could be a good way to finally introduce necromancers to the game. Just a thought

[@thezatren6481]

So, if that IS a part of Kel'thuzad's soul, that realm it's in could actually be Kel'thuzad's phylactery.

[@ASIRA89]

just a few days ago I JOKINGLY said that Kel'thuzad is a character that will always come back to life, until the day Blizzard shuts down the last WoW server. And now he's back again. I don't know if i'm a prophet or if Blizzard steals my ideas at this point.

[@outsiider2537]

This KT is much like Sindragosa. I think they're gonna rewrite him to help us find Dalaran. If Khadgar returned then the city has to be somewhere. KT was a master summoner if i remember the dialog from WC3 correct. This is gonna be plot important.

[@ds698]

Destroying stuff to make a better more modern model version of the place or thing is pretty awesome. I was super sad when daleran was destroyed. Felt like game of thrones when everyone cool dies lol.

[@nocturn4484]

sooo....kind of a horkrux thingy. Right? Not a real part of his soul but a mirrored fracture. like sindragosa.

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

I know he's a lich and all, but god damn this character simply will not stay dead.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

The best friend returns!! History will vindicate Kel'Thuzad!!

[@black2abomination]

00:34 how are they trying to undo the shadowlands lore?

[@turnstanley9737]

I don't think they undoing the lore at all I think they are trying to make it relevant in small pockets. Cus if they were undoing the lore of shadow lands then anduin and Sylvania should be normal 😂

[@galten7361]

@@turnstanley9737 Anduin is a lousy character who's just written for tw*tter/tumblr/reddit women to pretend is their boyfriend and relevant men to identify with.

[@CroftScionGuard]

I suppose it will be like some sort of simulacrum of him, his story ended in SL

[@galten7361]

@CroftScionGuard Not really. Him being tied to the Jailer as his real master was just a retcon and didn't follow his earlier lore.

[@JayR-t8r]

​@@galten7361 that still doesn't change the fact that his story ended in SL. Just because people think SL sucked doesn't mean it didn't happen

[@galten7361]

@@JayR-t8r They already brought in Kel'thuzad just so he can be forced into Shadowland's plot as a minion. Them bringing him in again whenever is not above them.

[@DarthCuddlefluff]

Bro they forgot what a lich is. You sacrifice your life, and and soul for eternal undeath and power. You don't have an afterlife whatsoever. Your soul is dying and needs to be fed with fresh souls in order to sustain yourself. We destroyed him, his soul , and his phylactery. HE. IS . GONE.

[@OGEETOMO]

It wouldn't be an expansion if KT didn't return.

[@SlendisFi_Universe]

I see Resident Evil 6 villain copy here. Mark my words. Kel'Thuzad will come back three more times!

[@ShadowMagics]

Necromancer class possibly?

[@WhiteWolfx22]

naw we got unholy dk

[@OJosheO]

​​@@WhiteWolfx22by that logic, why do we have playable priests if we already have holy paladins?

[@patrikzotaj4528]

yes.

[@SakugaZai]

I always liked kelthuzads theatrics.

[@MyraAmherst2018]

this is misleading. he's JUST a mirror image, and kalec (who's no longer on the counsel) says he was destroyed along with the pocket dimension when we left. he was brought into this storyline bc they were showing the failures of the kirin tor and how they should keep this in mind when going forward

[@zzmr_stretchzz8772]

imma be real im at the point where if hes not in the newest xpac im kinda bummed its like losing khadgar in xpacs hes just mia in

[@jasosik]

kelthuzad - orochimaru of warcraft universe.

[@gentlereader9457]

will he bring Arthas back?

[@patrikzotaj4528]

or we.

[@fushisaky]

Arthas is gone, it got disenchanted

[@galten7361]

@@fushisaky Not important if it's picked to bring in Arthas again. They already established that alt timelines are a thing. Even his soul supposedly being gone is not insurmountable in light all of the other soul shenanigans Arthas has been in.

[@xXReimuHakureiXx]

@@galten7361 Alternate timelines are the biggest crutch for lack of writing talent. MCU and Mortal Kombat 1 are prime examples. Made an oopsie wit one character? Just throw on another timeline to write them differently and the fans will never stop to think about it!

[@ZePouic_]

I hope

[@BorgWolf359]

I am looking forward to playing this live in 2025!

[@Kapuze916]

Who seid we killed kel thuzad ? Hes like voldemord. Made Himself another horkucks. And the jailor is not dead, just deactivated and without anima and power

[@Cpt.Harambe-g3j]

We wiped him out in the Maw, how is this possible lol

[@jordanvalencia9597]

wow, you're 2 days late, Aetherius posted the cinematics involving the Kel'thuzad simulacrum on her channel with all the 11.0.7 animation involving what was being done on Dalaran. talk about being scooped.

[@rossato2109]

They are trying to undo Shadowlands lore? Can you or someone explain this further? I havent played in a couple of years, what are they changing?

[@JayR-t8r]

They aren't lol. People for some reason think since there's new people in charge and since SL wasn't so well liked they are trying to erase the fact it happened despite there clearly being parts of it tied into DF.

[@rossato2109]

@@JayR-t8r Got it, thanks for explaning to me, video got me confused.

[@bindair_dundat]

If you use WC3 footage, don't use Reforged. F*ck Reforged. We are old school Warcraft nerds. Good old WC3 footage makes us nostalgic. Reforged footage makes us angry. Or disappointed. Or both.

[@DarkMegaPlague]

just give us necromancers and ogres already Blizz

[@deathlord4413]

They can bring back Kel thuzad but never Arthas. Sheesh

[@Elethyl]

Please no, come on, oh god what are they even thinking im so sick and tired of seeing same characters over and over and over and over and over and over and... again... kelthuzad, jaina, thrall, arthas, guldan... screw them all, seriously, focus on your NEW lore and NEW characters

[@galten7361]

@Elethyl If by "new lore" you mean "is a post-RTS game character" then WC doesn't have any genuinely iconic active characters besides Anduin Wrynn and Saurfang in a pinch. Even then the latter two got their mass usage from writer and fanon decree rather than achievement. Even characters like Shandris and Rok'han who were around since the RTS games were neglected largely across lore until they started doing some passing the torch angle (which Shandris being more or less an elf version of how they write every other 20 something or younger heroic character who isn't supposed to have unacceptable views).

[@Elethyl]

​​​@@galten7361Lor'themar, Thalysra, Oculeth/Valtrois etc, Rokhan, Gelbin, Deathstalker Belmont, Talanji, Umbric, Shandris, Azurethal/Emberthal, Ji Firepaw, Gazlowe, Prince Erazim, Aethas/Rommath/Halduron, Liadrin, Eitrigg, Mayla, Baine... There are a ton of characters they could build upon, they are objectively more interesting than any other "popular" character from RTS games

[@georgeindestructible]

OOOOR it's just Xal'atath.

[@shadowbind463]

Maybe he took part of arthas soul from the jailer to ret con that shitshow

[@eternallegacy89]

Didn't we kill KT in Shadowlands?

[@mistermort77]

Does that mean that, after the world soul saga, Blizzard prepare an expansion on a new scourge with the Necromancer hero class ? (Kel Thuzad is a necromancer, isn’t he ?)

[@ShadowMagics]

I hope so

[@Danielbg199]

Kel thuzad is cool

[@kaveen6020]

How many times do you have to teach you this lesson old man

[@verihimthered2418]

Lol can't teleport lol!

[@verihimthered2418]

❤video

[@LifeOfTheFlame]

dgaf about ai art but being a shill for ai when its environmentally degrading while you talk about lore thats often about a world ending from progress

[@ProtinusHQ]

This guy again. ITS BORING BLIZZ

[@Danielbg199]

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