Dorothy Hamill - 1975 World Figure Skating Championship FS

Fifth in figures and then 6th in the short after a fall on a flying sit, Dorothy needed to win the free to make the podium. She did just that with more technical content than she would do the next year to win the Olympics, winning her second successive world silver medal behind Dianne DeLeeuw who was more consistent over the three phases of the competition.

[@micheledeanda4854]

Dorothy Hamill is my idol! I’ve been a huge fan since I was a child.

[@janyshendrickson3833]

Always admired Dorothy's beautiful posture, port de bras and her gorgeous spin positions. Just lovely 👏👏 Thank you for posting this.

[@martypellow9908]

What impressed me here was the sheer speed. She just seemed to fly across the ice. Do skaters today with all the quads even skate this fast? It was interesting to watch even with only two double axels! I know everyone talks about transitions these days but fast, smooth, flowing crosscuts are a joy to watch. The flying camels were beautiful to look at. Do these exist in competition anymore without all kinds of contortions to rack up points? What surprised me was how small the layback was here. She has a great layback and it was just a very short one here. She made more of it the next year at the Olympics. Thanks again Floskate for posting these rarities. Keeping the beauty of true figure skating -- from its glory era -- alive.

[@CarolanIvey]

She does skate with tremendous speed and power! When you watch her double axel in slow motion, the height and distance she gets, it looks like she could easily have tripled it!

[@Itstonytime77]

I feel like they have to do too many steps in programs today to really get the speed up

[@martypellow9908]

@@Itstonytime77 I agree. It looks laboured sometimes. I prefer a flowing style and fast footwork, rather than all the flailing

[@lindatannock]

@@Itstonytime77 I agree. Much prefer seeing fast crossovers, with transitions only going into jumps. I hate seeing constant footwork. I'm from the 6.0 era myself, and think it was way more dynamic to watch. I really don't like modern spins that much, and think they're really hard on skaters backs (particularly if you're not naturally flexible!)

[@user-eq4qj9ob6s]

Yes. But... Kamila Valieva. Hhe is fenomen.

[@dianezeltins3274]

She is still my idol! Love Dorothy Hamill

[@debrakateri2979]

One thing that she possesses that literally almost no other skater possess today is her posture so straight and so poised

[@stephaniek1076]

Yes, I think you're right. And, I also think I recall that Dick Button mentioned that fact about her more than once.

[@sharondickson3671]

You no longer see this kind of grace and feeling .

[@TroysPop]

Thank you for posting all these great clips from 1975 Worlds. You have found a lot of wonderful color footage that I haven't seen before.

[@zhelkoshka]

Все это сильно устарело. Тяжёлое печальное катание. Посмотрите Валиеву, .!!!!!!!! Косторную.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? Трусову!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kimhaas7586]

Nothing fancy but still a real pleasure to watch because she doesn’t just do a series of tricks. She’s a fluid skater abs connects each movement like she is dancing. You almost don’t see her jumps coming. They just happen.

[@MistyLaneLoveConquersALL]

Because of her when I was little I got the Dorothy Hamill haircut! ⛸️❤️

[@jabrams875]

I was in high school when she won the Olympics and that summer I went to a school program in another state. I once sat in the back of the classroom and counted all the 'Dorothy Do's'. A good half the girls had them

[@MistyLaneLoveConquersALL]

@@jabrams875 I'm sure! 😄 I was about 10 years old when I got mine.

[@cherylann9781]

LOL, So did I!

[@Iiwii11]

I wanted a Dorothy Hamill hair cut back in the 70’s, but my hair was too thin to pull it off right and I was so sad.

[@MistyLaneLoveConquersALL]

@@Iiwii11 if you got the haircut I'm sure it looked nice 🙂

[@Tytytytyty1776]

Her axel was HUGE. She definitely could have pushed for a triple axel had she been a skater in a different generation.

[@zhelkoshka]

Как тяжеловесны и простоваты фигуристки тех лет. И школа слабая. Посмотрите русскую школу. Валиеву. Косторную.

[@lullabelle71]

Her air position and take off position wouldn't have been good for a 3A. But if she had been training with modern methods, she probably would have gotten it. Her 2Lutz seems so easy! But I can't believe some people miss that era of skating! Less skills and transitions than 9 and 10 years old are doing today! 😉

[@shimmeringfairydust3275]

@@lullabelle71 you entirely miss the point. Jumps aren’t that exciting, plus they often ruin young bodies. Katerina Witt qualified for the Olympics when she was almost 30. Can you imagine any female skater doing that today? Thanks to Russia, most female skaters are washed up by age 17 - or they sure aren’t medal contenders. Have you ever watched John Curry? There is something so magical about him. He interpreted music in a way no one had before or since. He could do the most difficult jumps performed then, but his stroking and edging can’t be touched by any of today’s competitors. Plus, his spins were exquisite - never seen a straighter back on a sit spin. His spread eagle into a double axel at the very end of his Olympic gold medal winning free skate in 1976 was magnificent. You are certainly entitled to your opinion - doesn’t mean I am right and you’re wrong but I can’t quite understand fans who prefer extreme athletic skating. The musical interpretation and artistry were always the most important things in skating during Curry & Hamill’s day, plus skaters in that era trained much harder since they had figures and longer SP and free skates. I still think they need two divisions of skating: athletic and artistic, plus maybe medals for the three skaters who have the best overall combined scores in the two divisions. Share the wealth.

[@waynehentley4332]

@@lullabelle71 So sad! The younger generations only seem to count the triples. They're unable to appreciate anything beyond the jumps!

[@lullabelle71]

@@waynehentley4332 first, I am not of the younger generation and second, all sports evolve! Second, I am not a fan of quadruples for the impact it has on the spine, hips and knees. But I sure like triples when well executed, in a program balanced with a good artistic part. The transitions and skating skills, if well executed, will show deep edges and good extension on well defined movement. And I think that when there's no musicality, it is not a complete program. Figure skating is both a sport and an art. I also love how Ice dance has evolved, the same way dance has. It's a question of what we prefer. I'm not taking away anything Mrs Hamill did, she was the greatest in her time. But most sports evolve and Skate Canada is going to raise the components (artistic) score to balance the total score better and to encourage skaters to render a more artistic program, not just a training-like jumps and spins parcour.

[@MichaelWDupre]

Beautifully done! Thank you for posting this!

[@nondescriptnyc]

To me, this performance best represents the Carlo & Krista Fassi school of skating-with superb speed and flow across the ice, the edge quality, beautifully intricate ice coverage, “honest” choreography to highlight clean lines, and quality jumps. I miss skating like this, which we aren’t seeing very much of these days…

[@dmmchugh3714]

@nondescriptnyc: Before I read your comment, I was thinking the same thing: this program is so emblematic of the Fassi style. Beauty with power, superb details and line. This was truly the golden age of skating. Today's skaters don't realize quads are not enough.

[@nondescriptnyc]

@@dmmchugh3714 I am glad there’s somebody that could relate to this!!! This lineage of the Carlo/Krista Fassi style continued through Robin Cousins, Emi Watanabe, Kristiina Wegelius, etc. and, to a lesser degree, Caryn Kadavy…but Jill Trenary and Nicole Bobek…not so much. Will we see this style of skating again??? I suppose it is all up to the ISU to decide.

[@Person-mh6xq]

@@dmmchugh3714 although the culprit is actually the IJS judging system - not the skaters and their quads. Such a shame.

[@wip1664]

So we are glad that there is storage media and KZbin.

[@glancycorner7425]

What I love about Dorothy H is that she doesn’t telegraph her jumps. Today’s skaters spend so much time getting a running head start to do the huge jumps that it isn’t art any more. Switch to track and do long jump instead.

[@biff5856]

You are so very correct

[@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName]

^This

[@Person-mh6xq]

Not really. No transitions were required back in the day. You could see Dorothy’s double lutz coming easily. But I still love her! Today there are transitions and less telegraphing. Not more.

[@marthahoffmann8674]

Peggy Fleming and Dorothy Hamill were and remain the best ice skaters America hat ever had !!

[@suzannegabrielle]

I remember when Peggy was at the Olympics her compulsory score was so high she could have fallen 3 times & still have won the gold. I don’t think those are even a factor now.

[@thomasdonio2129]

I would most certainly add Janet Lynn.

[@Person-mh6xq]

@@thomasdonio2129 yes! The ULTIMATE freeskater.

[@larhumba4233]

Such energy in this performance! 👏👏

[@shimmeringfairydust3275]

I miss this kind of skating. Superb stroking, velvety edging & just an amazing ability to interpret music. Now it’s all about gymnastic moves & difficulty of jumps - which can only be done by young teens. Dorothy was 19 when she won gold…still a teen, but a mature one. Did figures, longer short & free skates. Skaters today have no idea how easy they have it - the compulsory figures took YEARS to perfect. Yeah. Watching that competition was dullsville, but it still gave the sport its name. It needs to be renamed “artistic skating” since no figures are involved. Such a shame.

[@vistaprime]

now it's all about pre-rotations and frenetic transitions.

[@shimmeringfairydust3275]

@@vistaprime too true! And if you’re female, your career is over by age 16. If you’re male, you risk career ending injuries at ANY age. True for females, too!

[@jillh.2084]

Totally agree!!

[@esraokan]

Points of artistic elements must be augmented.

[@wip1664]

Today we can watch a playback in slow motion...even on KZbin. Only then can we actually see the beauty that is a product of a good masterful figure skater. Why some painters such as Monet and van Gogh, or Vermeer and Cezanne, can consistently produce more interesting paintings then any painter...

[@sqlcomp]

Dorothy jumped so high I bet she could have been the first to land a triple back then but a different time & era- what a wonderful skater!

[@kevinhebner6773]

Actually, at the ‘75 Nationals, Barbie Smith landed a triple salchow and a triple toe-loop and came in second in FS behind the great Wendy Burge who won both the SP and LP.

[@sqlcomp]

@@kevinhebner6773 didn't know that thank you for telling me I appreciate it.

[@AT-jm4dl]

@@kevinhebner6773 What happened to Dorothy at the 75 Nationals? She messed up both the SP and the LP ? Interestingly that Wendy Burge also won the LP over Linda Fratianne's clean LP with two triples at the 77 Nationals.

[@kevinhebner1371]

@@AT-jm4dl For the '75 Nationals I do not know about the SP, but Dorothy only completed one double axel compared with Wendy's three. For the '77 Nationals, remember Wendy skated in quite a bit of darkness as the lights went out just at the end of Fratianne's LP. I believe the judges factored that into her performance, and she skated well. Her spins were superior to anyone of the time, and her artistic impression of the music was also great. As good as Linda was, I always felt she seemed to skate slower than others - perhaps that was because she was so petite.

[@johnorlando9839]

Her technical content was more difficult here than at her Olympic performance, but presentation and artistry were better at the Olympics. Her best scores in the FS were in the 1974 Worlds.

[@mskates2001]

More talent, poise and personality than any of the skaters today. If figures had not been discontinued, the quality of skating today would be so much better today.

[@rebecaramirez6379]

Que hermosos tiempos… no cabe duda recordar es volver a vivir

[@CamilleGG451]

Wow- I'm not sure if it's actually the way you said it, or the way it was translated to English, haha, but that was beautiful and I actually wrote down your quote to put up on my wall!! 😄💗 Thank you!!

[@nicholasohren9644]

She had such clean / pure technique on her toe loop

[@cynthiaconrad6145]

No drama, just beautiful and elegant!

[@barkingtree88]

tremendous distance on that double axel combination... I think this is the only time I have seen her do it!

[@Lastfirst333]

Speed style and grace my first skating love was Dorothy!!!

[@jodishepard8082]

I think this was at the Broadmoor in Colorado Springs and I was there at 11 yrs old. Thx for posting this! My grampa and I would write the scores in the program book. It’s one of my earliest memories. Wow.

[@kimberlymiller59]

Me, too! Though I was 17 and was with my Mom. I just took a picture of the mug I got there, but I don't see how to include it. I think that was the first year that Tai Babylonia (spelling?) and Randy Gardner competed at the world level. I remember speaking to her as she was feeding the ducks at the Broodmoor pond.

[@jodishepard8082]

@@kimberlymiller59 that’s amazing. I’ve love the Broadmoor lake. It’s in perfect condition still.

[@miamiracer]

You could say that they do more difficult jumps today but the beautiful execution of every move she made, that first double axel, is poetry in motion. We have lost some of the artistry to the current demands for technical fireworks.

[@valerielstevens4712]

SO Graceful! That's what ladies figure skating is missing today GRACE!! The jumps are nice but let's bring more emphasis on the artistry.

[@magsgagas9463]

Beautiful

[@IndigoBellyDance]

Luv those big old school lofty spins U can see why she is sooooo popular…. U can tell she loves what she is doing

[@vlw4165]

It's interesting to see the evolution of figure skating. I wonder how this performance would be scored today? Doubles seem so tame anymore. But I question whether the fireworks of triple and quad jumps have really contributed to the beauty and artistry of the sport?

[@biff5856]

You forget back then they had figures to contend with. They take years to master. They were a substantial % of score. There wasn't time to practice jumps.

[@lindatannock]

@@biff5856 there was plenty of time to practice free skating! Yes, we had to do figures for hours every week, but I never felt I had too little free skating practice. Comparing then and now, myself and the skaters who competed with me were way better than a lot of the kids I see coming through now. It takes them ages to get jumps at the beginning. At least in my country anyway. We were doing double lutz in competition at the 1st test level (back when there were 6 levels, 5 to get to senior). Kids now are doing single lutz to axel, and restrictions are put on what they can attempt in the programme. Skaters did less difficult jumps way back in these times (like in the video) than now because the equipment and techniques have evolved over time. It's a natural progression, not a lack of time and practice. Hope that makes sense 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⛸️

[@CamilleGG451]

I know nothing about ice-skating- I just enjoy watching it, but I'd have to say- my first thought on seeing this was "wow! how pretty those fewer twirly things were!" lol. Awesome to watch the quads but this struck me right away for it's grace!

[@biff5856]

@@lindatannock I'm 78 and have seen them all, not just on old footage. The skaters back then had tremendous edge control and plenty of strength to complete the triples and quads if they were deemed necessary. Dorothy was very strong. Her flying sit spin was a monster. Her delayed axel was fabulous. They had technique on tap to whatever. Figures were just too important. Look what that did to Janet Lynn.

[@wip1664]

In order to do a triple or a quad jump well, the skater has to use a lot of speed and power to propel, and then to know how to retract that speed and power. This type of required athleticism is easy to induce "beauty and artistry". It is very animalistic, like a bird or a cat in motion. And in figure skating the skater's feet are blades moving on a near frictionless surface. They also do doubles in the programs. Some can just skate/move "better" and are more beautiful to watch. As for the program as a whole, the choreo is also important. This performance is excellent, and wonderful to watch. Her movement across the ice and her jumps are clean and precise. And I do think that triples and quads have contributed to the beauty/artistry of this sport.

[@betty-joymoreau4363]

Amazing

[@LDVTennis]

When happened to edge quality and graceful carriage? ... Yuka Sato was the last skater with this kind of flow across the ice.

[@stephaniek1076]

Yes, and, if my recall is correct, she was a skater whom Sergei Grinkov admired, so she was invited to skate at his memoriam, "Celebration of a Life."

[@biff5856]

Yuka was a skaters skater. Technically superb with joyful grace. Everyone admired her. I would like to add Chen Lu to the mix. She was mesmerizing. So graceful. The way she delayed the rotation of her jumps.

[@lorid6544]

That lutz jump at about 1:09 was really close to the boards!

[@mitayzaev3081]

...как _быстро_ - и такое скольжение))👍👍👍!!!!! Очень музыкально танцует Дороти!..и великолепный Аксель), который с успехом (у Дороти) мог БЫ быть "тройным": такой пролетный, и с запАсом высоты!!! Спасибо, смотрю с удовольствием, такое красивое выступление Дороти, с её эталонной "спиной" фигуристки👌🙂

[@rozovisurok]

Тоже самое подумала, что она спокойно могла бы крутануть тройной с таким заскоком...

[@mitayzaev3081]

@@rozovisurok, 👍👍

[@debraharper5449]

So beautiful

[@lindaosika7648]

I love the delayed axel.

[@naturalPaths]

I so miss the days when the skating was more visible than the costumes, when the spins were so, so centered. I miss the days of actual Figure skating.

[@lucindawillcox6628]

What a classy dame ❤❤❤

[@matthewjameshall2145]

Great skate.

[@cayea4076]

She was the last skater who could get away with never doing a triple. Now the Russian girls do quads. Crazy how the sport has changed.

[@kaythomas3171]

She's just as good as today 's skaters, if you ask me clean sharp edges,, excellent technical skill.....something about her reminds me of Lady Di

[@chih-chanlin4356]

No comparison, no harm.

[@beautifulawa]

Beautiful skating, shifty music.

[@johnorlando9839]

She moved from 5th to 2nd with this performance.

[@aeli999]

I got to see her skate in 1974 at the Worlds in Munich. I don't remember who skated before her, but the audience disagreed with the scores that person got and started booing the judges. Poor Dorothy thought they were booing her at first.

[@floskate]

It was Gerti Schanderl who lived in Munich so was very popular with the crowd as the hometown girl.

[@donngobbie429]

Didn't that happen at the 1976 olympics? The skater from the Netherlands went before her, and the audience booed her low marks, and Dorothy was on the ice warming up and left the ice in tears

[@aeli999]

@@floskate I figured it had to be someone local or West German from my memory but it's been a long time and I was pretty young.

[@aeli999]

@@donngobbie429 Nope, pretty sure it was the Worlds. We didn't go to the Olympics in 72 or 76.

[@floskate]

@@donngobbie429 worlds 1974. It's on my channel

[@cherylbean521]

She won the gold in 1976

[@waynehentley4332]

She did?🤔🤔🤔

[@bevinboulder5039]

Was that the year that Dorothy was in tears because the crowd was booing/whistling at the previous skater's marks? I think it must be because I'm very familiar with that music and I've seen the complete clip of that incident multiple times. Thanks!

[@renzy79]

No, that was 1974.

[@floskate]

That was 1974 and was re-aired during the 1976 Olympics in Innsbruck. It is on my channel if you search for it.

[@bevinboulder5039]

@@renzy79 Thanks!

[@bevinboulder5039]

@@floskate Thanks!

[@fitgraphisva]

Interesting that Dorothy left out her Sal in this program. Loved her posture and arch in her back. But...oh...those 70s music edits. Technology has really enabled today's choreographers to create programs which appear to be of one thought.

[@barbaracrain2975]

👏👍

[@notnek202]

When figure skating was beautiful today it’s ugly.

[@amyvoss1976]

Raise your hand if you had the Dorothy Hammil doll/action figure AND the Dorothy Hammil haircut! 🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐

[@biff5856]

I did but it didn't look to good on me

[@Gemini530]

Back when the double axel was the most difficult jump 😃

[@waynehentley4332]

So? She did what was required. The gold and bronze medalists each had a triple!

[@biff5856]

The delayed axel is a difficult jump. It takes strength, yes but also takes a mind set to hold off the rotation.

[@kevinhebner6773]

Not true. Janet Lynn landed a triple toe loop at the 1971 North American Championships. Melissa Militano landed a triple toe loop as a Junior at the 1970 U.S. Nationals and won the bronze medal. Barbie Smith landed both a triple toe loop and a triple salchow at the 1975 U.S. Nationals and finished 4th overall.

[@waynehentley4332]

@@kevinhebner6773 Were they fully rotated? Although not much importance was placed on full rotations back then!😀😀

[@kevinhebner6773]

@@waynehentley4332 I believe Janet’s was cheated. You can watch it on KZbin. Militano’s was rotated fully. It’s on KZbin as well. Barbie Smith’s were fully rotated, as I knew people that were there, but no video has surfaced. You can watch her triple salchow, fully rotated, from the 1977 World Championship, on KZbin. These “quads” that are pre-rotated today make me laugh. There are plenty of KZbin videos showing the Russian women grossly pre-rotating their “supposed” quads. Give me Michelle Kwan, or Gracie Gold, or Yuna Kim or Kaori Sakamoto or Elizaveta Tuktamysheva any day of the week before these “quad” cheaters.

[@conniesedona116]

Was this rink smaller than today's rinks? Seems like it.

[@roberta-ls9lr]

I too loved Dorothy but I never liked her arm positions (both arms straight out) when circling the ice. Janet could dazzle with so many double axles in a program but she did not skate her best when she had the chance after the score for the compulsories was reduced. Some of the new girls nowadays are athletically amazing but I miss the older programs with great musical interpretation.

[@user-ey2ef1xx3z]

Как это все же отличается от современного женского фигурного катания. Но на девушку приятно смотреть.

[@skaterfan1]

What were the artistic marks?

[@floskate]

I don't know they weren't shown.

[@Dossen_A]

two 5.8, seven - 5.9

[@floskate]

@@Dossen_A Thank you. Where are these marks published?

[@Dossen_A]

@@floskate I calculated these scores mathematically :). Dorothy's total was 224.53, the sum of compulsory+short program was 119.23, so 105.30 remained. Your video has the first mark, sum it up and get 52.40. 105.30 - 52.40 = 52.90 - the sum of the artistic marks. Internet has had a list of all 6.0 ratings since 1969 and there are none for 1975, two options remain: 2 5.8 and 7 5.9, or 1 5.7 and 8 5.9. But the second option is very doubtful. If I'm not wrong :)

[@renzy79]

Thanks Floskate! I've been wanting to see this program for a long time!

[@CG68810]

I wonder if she ever considered trying to win a second gold in Lake Placid? She certainly could have won it again.

[@floskate]

Not without triples I don't think. Apparently she did triple sal's in practice but never did them in competition to my knowledge. Plus it was back when pro skating was lucrative, especially with a newly minted OGM round your neck. TV specials with Gene Kelly and a huge contract with an ice show or four more years of early mornings and figures and not earning anything. It was absolutely the best move at that time for her to turn pro.

[@AT-jm4dl]

No. The top 4 girls at Lake Placid all had at least two triples in their LPs. Linda and Denise did triple-double combination in the their SP. Dorothy was also out skated by Linda at the 76 Nationals, who dazzled the crowd with her effortless triples. Dorothy knew she would moved on; Standing on the medals podium, Dorothy leaned over to Linda and said, "Next year this will be all yours kiddo." (Can't remember if that was 100% the exact quote, but I read about that in an article profiling Linda for the Lake Placid Game.) Plus I'm sure lucrative professional offers were coming in like crazy for Dorothy after she won gold. She would've been crazy not to take advantage of that. I think Dorothy would have been competitive in the 79 SP at Nationals and maybe even at the SP at Worlds. The required jump in the SP combo was the 2flip. Linda won the SP at Worlds and at Nationals too , I think, with the 2flip-2toe combo. Dorothy did that combination in 76, and her program, skating skills, style, and performance and audience connection were much better than Linda's. I can totally see Dorothy winning the 79 Nationals SP and then getting 2nd or 3rd in the LP, depending on how Lisa Marie skated. To be honest though, Linda's 79 Carmen Program was just not good at all. So Dorothy could've won the LP there too.

[@waynehentley4332]

@@AT-jm4dl I loved Dorothy but she was out of her league by 79! No triples? Nothing doing!😃😃

[@1079walter]

Great skate. But cutting the final scores was not a great ending to the video. Too bad.

[@floskate]

I included everything I had. The missing marks have been listed in the comments

[@floskate]

And your original comment said totally stupid. I think that applies more to your pointless negatively without knowing the full facts don't you?

[@susanbyrne6777]

I couldn’t watch cos the music was too scary lol but from what I did watch can see why she was a champ x

[@waynehentley4332]

What a stupid comment! Seriously?

[@user-sw1wu1bd1t]

Реклама русской водки на 0:30

[@piramis7615]

no triple?

[@floskate]

No. Triples were fairly rare for women's skating prior to 1976 although the gold and bronze medallists at this event both did a triple toeloop. Dorothy was the last Olympic champion to win without a triple jump.

[@piramis7615]

@@floskate 1974 Worlds Christine Errath?

[@floskate]

@@piramis7615 yes also in 1974, a triple toe but she fell. She landed it at this competition in 1975 and in combination.

[@piramis7615]

@@floskate 1974 she don´t fell on the european championships , and Sonja Morgenstern before in 1971! Petra Burka in 1962 on the canadian championships but a video is probably not to be seen.

[@floskate]

@@piramis7615 I was referring to worlds not Europeans where she did land it. Burka did triple sal in 1962 worlds also but it was underrotated. Same with Janet Lynn's triple toe and sal attempts from 1967-1971 and Seyfert and Maskova's triple loop attempts at 1968 and 1969 Europeans respectively. Jana Mrazcova was attempting triple salchow as early as 1960 in Squaw Valley at the Olympics.

[@zhelkoshka]

Очень слабое, тяжёлое катание. Скучно. Печально.......

[@waynehentley4332]

You sound like a sad weak person yourself!!!

[@boweandrew3]

Amazing