Dostoevsky // Nietzsche: The Grand Inquisitor, Freedom & The Great Reset | Philosophy

[@ThoughtsonThinking]

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[@112deeps]

You can't be Humble if one is weak, powerless & being helplessness. True Humbleness is for strong outside or inside

[@Eternalised]

The Grand Inquisitor is one of the most mind-blowing passages in The Brothers Karamazov. A testament to Dostoevsky's genius.

[@calebwarren5841]

Ivan’s conversation with Satan is slept on. It’s another amazing passage that has tons of unclear meaning to be churned out from it. I love how it’s left up in the air whether or not it’s a figment of Ivan’s delusion or real, or whether or not it really matters

[@ThoughtsonThinking]

@@calebwarren5841 What the chapter called? (I haven't read the entire book yet)

[@Eternalised]

@@ThoughtsonThinking That's a great passage Caleb, one of my favourites as well!! Chapter 9: the devil. Ivan's nightmare

[@ceilingfanenthusiast6041]

@@ThoughtsonThinking book 11 chapter 9: The Devil. Ivan's nightmare. I'm pretty sure it's also been translated as "Ivan and his Ghost" (which I prefer) though I don't have a source for that.

[@ieeaswaran]

Indeed. I also love these little points about this great chapter in TBK. a) The Framing: Ivan is giving Alyosha a remembered version of a poem he wrote. There's a distancing, an allowance for the vagaries of our process of remembering. Similar to the framing used in The Turn of the Screw, Heart of Darkness. b) Ivan is ironic, doesn't take his own story TOO seriously, and accepts the questions Alyosha raises. c) TheGrand Inquisitor letting Christ go. d) The kiss Alyosha gives Ivan before leaving, and how it parallels the kiss Christ gives the GI before leaving. Would be glad to know if there are other little things you appreciate about the chapter that I might have missed.

[@johnebner4102]

Some find their neitzsche, others kant.

[@pmk108]

I find myself constantly wrestling with both

[@siyaindagulag.]

Some Kants bother with neither.

[@thetruth4654]

I like Nietzsche`s individuality, but not a fan of he`s materialism which is why i prefer Dostoevsky and Jung

[@johnebner4102]

@@thetruth4654 interesting, what exactly about his materialism do you find less appeling to F.D and Jung? Dostoyevsky I find to make good points but hard to prove or at least find examples of the opposite of his points,such as sadists.

[@theGuilherme36]

@@johnebner4102 It's because his core philosophy is existentialist, which says that what matters is not rational arguments but human action. Dostoevsky's point is that acting the christian way makes the world a better place independently of the evils of the world, the reason of which we can not know entirely.

[@thelotuspad]

How can a rebel be happy? "One of the greatest pleasures in life is doing what others say you can't do" ~ Fortune Cookie Wisdom 😄

[@chiffmonkey]

Comfort leads to existential dread. How many people under lockdown have come to see that?

[@thegrandinquisitor7917]

Someone summoned me?

[@iankclark]

LOL talk about a grand entrance

[@therealjohndoe3862]

People should get used to the idea that there are others who have visions for a global transformation here on Earth. These visions have been being imagined for generations. People might want to get used to the idea that change is coming, always disguised as something "good" for you. However, your input is not wanted, but compliance is expected. They are no longer asking for permission, and there is no suggestion box for malcontents who do not like it.👈🏼

[@therealjohndoe3862]

@Thomas Daniels Today you do...kind of...

[@therealjohndoe3862]

@Thomas Daniels Of course they are. They have spent decades attacking the Constitution, and they are just getting started. They have been targeting very specific groups, even going so far as to call a specific group "the biggest domestic threat" to America. Sooner or later, everyone will find out what the utility of The Patriot Act and the NDAA truly are. These, the monkey wrench to deal with any future "domestic terrorists". Today's patriot, tomorrow's "terrorist." Sooner or later, it will be more obvious than it already is. Some day, you will not be allowed to make the post you did. I disagree vehemently will censorship, but these days you get banned from the internet for telling the truth.

[@KeepTalkingRomania]

so basically, what you are saying is that people should not condemn Hitler or Stalin for killing millions because they had a vision. What we are witnessing with the Great Reset is not a revolution is a power takeover and a transformation of men into cattle.

[@therealjohndoe3862]

@@KeepTalkingRomania You totally misinterpreted the original post. Totally...

[@KeepTalkingRomania]

@@therealjohndoe3862 in this case, I apologize but it felt like you say that we should resign and accept or get used to it which I can't, at least not if I want to still stay what I am.

[@briandzwoniarek8952]

Fantastic. Ive been struggling on my own to gather the fundamental points laid out here. Thank you. I can now approach the chapter again with much needed guidance.

[@AdarshRaj-nw3yj]

The brothers karamazov, one of the greatest books ever written.

[@BalticDude_DCS]

Absolutely love your connections to today. You are truly based my friend. You can say the same thing about today's "scientists" and "experts" who are no different from the old priests.

[@joshfrench6426]

Excited to have found your channel...You should cover the archetype of the puer/puella in relation to the general arrested development in younger generations and how media/technology/big tech and idealistic political movements all play a role in keeping many from psychologically "growing up"

[@indicatoker420]

The poem can also be compared to 'brave new world' by Aldous Huxley. Mustapha Mond, the leader of the brave new world, sounds exactly like the grand inquisitor. And the great reset sounds a lot like the brave new world.

[@unnamed212121]

This is amazing. i just read the grand inquisitor chapter from the brothers karamazov recently. I have to reread it again, its quite dense. You have made a clear and concise explanation about it

[@WotansSohn]

Great video! I think that a closer look on the herd could be insightful: The great reset is a extreme egalitarian movement that feels that every kind of Übermensch is evil - so we should become harmless. Our "shepherds" (virologists etc.) are pseudo-overmen who cultivate men being more little than they are, no sign of greatness is allowed in the "great" reset. - a German guy who appreciates your love for Nietzsche's writings. ;)

[@shitpostinc.4544]

I would avoid calling it egalitarian. It would make the plebes equally miserable and atomized, but the elite, the new feudal nobility would flourish.

[@nelsongalvan2178]

This is one of your most thought provoking videos. If you read the Sermon on the Mount, it makes no practical sense: love your enemies, let them strike your other cheek, give up your coat, pluck your eye out! What Jesus is demonstrating is what real faith is, which is to give up our comfort and safety, not just adhering to strict Jewish laws like following the Sabbath. The church is the true opiate of the people, not Christianity. The church is a crutch, not religion. On the other hand, to reach one's destination, we sometimes need a crutch. Don't worship the crutch but don't throw it out either. Let's not mistake the means for the end. I am a weak person. I need the crutch but I won't confuse it for the destination.

[@rustyk4645]

At some point you should learn to do without a crutch, or you will walk all Crooked.

[@nelsongalvan2178]

@@rustyk4645 some find it more important to walk like a young dandy than where they are going.

[@rustyk4645]

@@nelsongalvan2178 a Crooked Gait will lead you down a Crooked Path, lol.

[@nelsongalvan2178]

@@rustyk4645 Good one Master Yoda!

[@nicholasbarrett2204]

I think that was your best video so far.

[@manuelmontiel8085]

Just finished reading the chapter, and had SO many abstract thoughts that you laid out very well! Thanks for putting thoughts to words!

[@christopherdew2355]

Spot on! Have just read this chapter and thought exactly that.

[@johntorri9172]

Just read this chapter last night and thought the SAME THING! Great Reset! Wow great video. Thank you for reading my mind! Haha

[@hagerstephen3899]

Excellent analysis. Thanks for this.

[@Room-wf4eg]

Love this, I read this book a few months ago and couldn’t help but notice the similarities to today as well 😂

[@alejandroangeles8587]

Your vids are MINDBLOWING...

[@jacksonvalad8012]

It is hard to believe to believe Nietzche and Dostoevsky talk about exactly the same topics and have very similar if not identical lives, but never met eachother. I know people these days like to flaunt Nietzche read Dosotoevsky but only in 1880s after most of his masterworks were published.

[@mihailotrajkovic3879]

Can you add english subtitles, please? It makes understanding what you said easier for non native speakers.

[@efleishermedia]

This BLEW MY MIND. I have to meditate on this for a long time. Like my whole life

[@balrajsingh776]

That's a great break down of Grand Inquisitor. It really stayed with me when I read it a few years ago. Your break down did explain in a very simple way some real deep concepts. I'm in a bit of a daze now... Miracle, Mystery, Authority VS Spiritual freedom. Much appreciated!

[@CineSolutions]

Excellent! One of ur best. Yes, pls more on this subject. Thx

[@TheEmperorAs]

You are really good!

[@limelightraver5690]

I was just thinking about the comparisons to The Grand Inquisitor and covid agenda today while working out at the gym so it’s nice to know that other people have reached the same conclusion.

[@sarahkelly2350]

superb and apt contextualization.

[@JohnEP223]

See 7:55 time mark: Rousseau's social contract, as I understand it, believes that the "common good" should be determined by the tyranny of the majority, in order to take away individual freedoms. When you break people down on every single factor, you find that the ultimate minority is the *individual*. Are you saying that Rousseau actually promotes individual sovereignty? (Your patience appreciated).

[@niallgosling999]

Great vids, great talker, great info :) hopefully you're enjoying isolation in the lockdown, not ideal but gives us time to explore more things like this 😊

[@farizalresat]

Commenting while watching.

[@LoganJ.Rooney]

Thank you for your services

[@johnward654]

Yeah bro! I don’t care?

[@shitpostinc.4544]

Sometimes I wonder if Doestoevsky was even human. He could dig so deep into the soul... His writings really ravage me.

[@perun814]

impossible to have democracy without morality according to dostoyewski. such a important concept on wich humans asses themselves and judge others

[@jackbarton4938]

I really love your videos mate, but also the art you put into them . . could you please tell me what the painting is at 0:20 of the guy by the river?

[@diannarichard6368]

Wonderful!! Thank you for this insight!!!

[@rudivandereep9611]

...grand inquisitor ...excelent mind blowing read ...

[@TheGringoSalado]

Definitely saw some overlap in The Abolition of Man while reading TGI.

[@azanyahyisrael101]

I came here to review the ideas of the grand inquisitor in preparation for the new matrix movie as a "return of Christ" but I was more than pleasantly surprised at the level of connections you were able to draw and evaluate here absolutely excellent 👌👍🏾👌

[@retroandanalogue495]

Spot on

[@xxChacaronXX]

Wanting to be happy all the time is a form of greed. In fact I'd argue it's the cause of all greed. Buddha said (first noble truth) "Life is suffering". Yin-Yang also means that everything is balanced. Life's about peace of mind, not happiness.

[@tau7260]

I have read several takes on the Grand Inquisitor, but the best goes to the heart of Dostoevsky and his inner struggles as the best place to begin, i.e., his early life and conversion to Christ. This is a tale about suffering, first and foremost. The connection to the 'great reset' was an effort, but without recourse to the history of the period, fell flat. By Dostoevsky's other works, 'miracle, mystery, True Authority' is manifest in Christ as 'revelation,' 'redemption,' and 're-capitulation,' and though no fan of Roman Catholicism, he did view Russian Orthodoxy as being in league with the monarchy and appreciated the 'unchangeability' of Roman rite dogma. If Dostoevsky and Neitzsche had a thread in common, it is the replacement of God (Dostoesvkey) or Christianity in general (in Nietzsche's case), with a 'what?' Communism, National Socialism, or any other utopian ideal is seen as the threat to man's existence, ideals without a basis of 'measure,' "Without God, all things are permissible (Dostoevsky)" or Nietzsche's "God is dead...what water is there for us to clean ourselves." Nietzsche viewed Christianity as slavery but knew whatever replaced it could be far worse. Both these men were prescient in this regard. The temptations are absolutely crucial here, but I feel I have worn out my welcome and will move on.

[@bjorntheviking6039]

I think there's a bit of the Grand Inquisitor in me, to be perfectly honest. From my view, there are those who don't overcome life's many challenges, perhaps because they cannot. When I see them hurting for it, my empathy wants to ease their suffering, damn the consequences. This is one of the roots of authoritarianism, which paradoxically leads to suffering as well. I don't deny this part of me and have made peace with it, but I don't let it rule me. My recommendation to anyone who recognizes something similar within themselves is to do likewise.

[@Ubiquitous0100]

I like listening these posts, but i find your voice a bit muffled and hard to hear. I don't know if it's the microphone, but it's not a clear audio.

[@shivamwadhia]

Good video. You forgot to mention that the man who is captured is Christ reborn. The conversation between the Inquisitor and the 'captured man' doesn't make sense otherwise.

[@ThoughtsonThinking]

I said he was Christ, the second coming of Christ

[@shivamwadhia]

@@ThoughtsonThinking you call him a "man in the street". One has to listen carefully to realise it is Christ you speak of.

[@ThoughtsonThinking]

Oh did I? Oh well, it's pretty obvious from the pictures who I am talking about anyways, thanks for pointing that out though!

[@matthewgroves7451]

Probably worth remembering Dostoevsky would not have regarded roman catholicism as the Church, but as heretical. He was Orthodox and the theology in his novel is Orthodox rather than Nietzschean.

[@wesryan930]

Well done

[@truenorthaffirmations7049]

New mental models allow a 3 dimensional view enabling us a well rounded and dynamic identity

[@bobgreen3362]

Please do a video on Eric Hoffer's The True Believer. He seems to come down on the side of the Grand Inquisitor.

[@saturncomes]

This video really pulled me in. This will to freedom, growth, and power; this will towards the unknown can be a great source of suffering. And there are so many traps along the way. Pride and grandiosity immediately come to my mind. But the universe is grand is it not? Majestic, wondrous and terrible. Consciousness perpetually works at maintaining the barrier between it and the Infinite external/internal, even as it ponders it's owns precariously balanced existence. There is a great danger in flirting with the will to power. Whether one does so intellectually or surrenders to the irrational. It is very difficult (for me anyways) to productively hold the tension between social standards and our inner drives. And at the same time to both criticize social standards and master the instincts, if such a thing can even be done. I have been able to repress instincts only to have them bite me in the ass. And I've been totally ruled by instincts. But never have I mastered them. Apparently there are people who have done this. But I'm skeptical. At the same time I'm very skeptical of the notion that freedom is to be found in some higher spiritual existence, whether it's in this world or some other. This push and pull, this fear of the power in my own vitality and the simultaneous fear (maybe even scorn) towards the notion of absolution from animality is positively maddening.

[@newyork1401]

Great analysis! Dostoevsky is the best writer.

[@tonysoprano9530]

A bit confused here. The G.I.is a condemnation of catholicism and the catholic church, is it not? Did not Dostoevsky believe that true spiritual salvation lay with the Russian orthodox church?

[@zigotina]

I didn't expect that covid spin 😂

[@kevfoda]

Your videos are too good!

[@Vokal37]

"Man was created a rebel; and how can rebels be happy?" I think this sentence is not true if you believe in man posessing spiritual freedom. Do you mean by spiritual freedom the choice to turn to the devil or to turn towards god? Or do you mean it in a Nitzschean sense, to be free to create your own values, given that you are able to think for yourself? I thought at that point in the video at 4:22, you meant the former, because that is also the choice/temptation Jesus faces. Miracle, Mystery and Authority. Alright that turn to the current Covid-19 situation caught me off guard. I am watching the video for a second time to try to understand your thought process. I would like to suggest to you to make important claims and points more obvious and explain them more after you made them. For example, define what you mean by spiritual freedom if it is an important term that you're introducing. (Okay I now understood that you wanted to make a side remark for those who are aware to understand. I heard of the great reset for the first time, so thanks for that) I totally get you saying Authority = the Great Reset. But how does lockdown, and Covid-19 inhibit spiritual freedom? How can the Inquisitor be an Übermensch, while obeying the authoritarian system of the devil? Thanks for your time and your content!

[@jirisimcik5833]

why do you think that Nietzsche would disagree with spiritual individual freedom?

[@lorismarchitelli5274]

He said Nietzsche would disagree with the grand inquisitor, not the opposit

[@siyaindagulag.]

Why sure ! An aptly drawn parallel. Same applies to other ideospiritual phenomena : The high fever of ultra nationalism, The woolly safety and comfort of ( ahem.) Tightly knit (read "stifling") community. Or anywhere the herd is granted ascenttion (implies a "grantor") The methods have not changed but the vehicle ( narrative) , is so much more efficient recently. All that aside; Pattern recognition is that part of my consciousness I would rather have , than not...although it can seem a curse alot of the time. Also: Poor dumb Mitka.; the moral : don't lose your mind over a golddigging Trollope.

[@benjaminhamel5280]

great

[@d.w.2833]

I am sorry, this one flew over my coo coo nest :-). Maybe I need to read and decipher the book myself (I read 'Crime and Punishment' long time ago and it blew me away with the 'ordinary' vs 'extra-ordinary' thought), but was the great inquisitor (representing 'the churches'/'the state') saying that 'freedom to true knowledge/experience' (represented by the 2nd coming of our Lord Jesus Christ) will be suppressed for the good of the people? Basically what the elites-globalists are pushing now that they know what is good for us. Is that what you are trying to say?

[@blackeyekin9300]

Discord?

[@danielhalbrook2965]

You are missing the point of comfort. You said, "You can't emplace a social system without knowing or allowing the people to figure out what they want or need". Look at Peterson's example of looking under the hood, realizing we don't know how a car works and then reverting to a sense of comfort in what we do know. This is the hierarchical nature of people. You don't need to provide anything, you merely need to show the uncertainty and hence fear of trying anything else. You discuss the social contract, which steers you off the right path. We merely need to co-opt the choices and make one untenable, we don't need to actually satisfy any self-conceived needs of people.

[@skull8093]

Why is the world, now that I've started reading Crime and Punishment, hell bent on spoiling this book for me? Fuck.

[@panthera2]

You sound so much like the guy who does video game lore like dark souls are you?😧 Sandy this happening right now all over the world

[@retroandanalogue495]

I thought that too! Different guy though.

[@kostas3031]

👍

[@romainbogaerts6856]

Although I enjoyed your video, I’m not sure you (nor anyone but Dostoevsky) can make some of the bold claims you make such as “Ivan being wrong” or “the meaning of the kiss at the end”. It appears that these were written by the author to be interpreted by the readers and thought about deeply; not just being dismissed with the simplest answer.

[@DopeForeverBeats]

Jesus love you, he died on the cross for you, accept him as your lord and savior he can change everything. For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life" (Jn 3:16" But you must repent too. From that time Jesus went about preaching and saying, Let your hearts be turned from sin, for the kingdom of heaven is near. (Matthew 4:17)~

[@KeepTalkingRomania]

on one side we have a comfortable "brave new world" society where people are too busy to experience all the wonders and activities in their "cages", on the other side we have spiritual freedom producing suffering but giving more chances of transcending consciousness and joining God. I think humanity made its choice already and yes, Jesus was wrong as it didn't act in human spirit but a divine one so even though he didn't actually do the miracles, he has eventually chosen to be the Son of God in front of the Devil.

[@rustyk4645]

Nietzsche would have supported The Great Reset.

[@ThoughtsonThinking]

I don't think so 😂

[@rustyk4645]

@@ThoughtsonThinking of course you don't. You think all the great philosophers would support you with this axe you like to grind.

[@ThoughtsonThinking]

Why do you think that?

[@rustyk4645]

@@ThoughtsonThinking well in all of your recent videos you start off talking about interesting philosophers and their ideas, then about 3/4 of the way through you start banging on about 'The Great Reset' and how the ideas of these great thinkers should definitely lead us to subscribe to your pet political tubthump.

[@ThoughtsonThinking]

@@rustyk4645 @Rusty K in ALL my recent videos? You mean three videos in the past three weeks... all I am talk about is individual freedom and the sovereignty of the people is that something that shouldn't be talked about? The views I express about The Great Reset are hardly the minority, most people are against its agenda so it is not like I am trying to win people over with this so called: "axe I like to grind" The philosophers I do mention would probably be against the great reset such as: Dostoevsky, Sartre, Emerson, ext... I am creating conversations that need to be had and I have my own opinion... So what is you're problem?

[@yoyo-hf1jn]

あー、羊の大群だぁ

[@deeveevideos]

Christ came to save everyone! And he will. 1 Timothy 4:10 - The New International Version (NIV) 10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

[@jonlewis6357]

You will eat ze bugs

[@e7m10]

ayyyyyyyyy first 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@Jivanmuktaintraining]

Fine breakdown but, dear God, please stop saying brang.

[@rustyk4645]

More of the greatest works of philosophy used to flog an Anti-Masker rant. You need to think bigger.

[@Stephen-px4eg]

Wheres the scientific studies they work?

[@johnmacrae2006]

@Rusty K Are you feeling shame for wearing a mask for no good reason other than to fit in?

[@rustyk4645]

There is plenty of evidence they slightly reduce risk.

[@rustyk4645]

@@johnmacrae2006 I take it you are so Shameless you walk out of your house naked every day?

[@Stephen-px4eg]

@@rustyk4645 I’ve honestly not seen them, although i have seen studies that contradict what you’re saying. So why a mask mandate if the benefits are so negligible?