Double Compressor Failure Was Not Enough Excitement

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HVACR Survival

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This compressor replacement did not go as expected, you're going to see what I did to replace it. You're also going to see an awesome example of my ultimate ladder crane that I built and how it was able to change these compressors effortlessly when there is no way to have gotten a forklift onto the grass where are the condenser was located.
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00:00 Teaser of ultimate crane
00:35 Replacing two compressors on a carrier aqua snap chiller
02:34 Push pull refrigerant, recovery method
05:04 Full load test of the ultimate ladder crane
06:07 You're not hacking if you're not getting shavings in the refrigerant circuit
08:32 Removing compressors with the ultimate ladder crane
09:43 Properly cutting and deferring the copper
13:04 Sizing your copper Sizing your copper without using a tape measure using a tape
16:30 Burning in the copper, refrigerant lines with the rosebud tip
17:40 Replacing the canister refrigerant filter dryer
21:16 Pulling vacuum with micron gauge and finding problems
23:52 We've got a large refrigerant leak, and we will need to return to find it.

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@thegun98
@thegun98 Жыл бұрын
that back saver 9000 is genius
@tedhicks5431
@tedhicks5431 Жыл бұрын
Nothing better than having 2 guys that know what's goin on
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
He's pretty sharp for only having three or four years of experience. He just finished the apprenticeship program and he's been working with some of the other guys too they just did one of these jobs.
@tedhicks5431
@tedhicks5431 Жыл бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival good training i work for school system i do my own thing afternoons and weekends they don't pay much
@JOSERization
@JOSERization Жыл бұрын
I work for Carrier commercial service and I love when I see someone else working on the machines I’m used too,no one really on KZbin works on Heavy Carrier equipment. ❤
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Thanks For the feedback!
@bryanharayda1975
@bryanharayda1975 Жыл бұрын
Very good work sir! I’m looking forward to part 2. That’s some real world scenario crap when it doesn’t always go as planned and further diagnostics are required, especially on a 60 ton chiller! They all can’t be as easy as basic ass 3 ton residential compressor changeouts! Lol
@dar9433
@dar9433 Жыл бұрын
I know it mentioned before that the push pull wasnt setup correctly, and its been explained already on here..but if you have a running compressor theres a faster way with the push pull,by using the compressor as the " recovery unit".. Hook liquid line of machine to liquid inlet of tank, the vapour of tank goes into suction line ofthe running machine, and hey presto yiu ll have full liquid recovery , real fast, make sure to keep eye on scales as tank can fill real quick, and sometimes generates static on the tank, so bond the tank to the machine, i use a jump lead ..😂.. this method xan be setup real quick and gets most of the liquid out, usually the machine trips on low pressure , indicating most of the easily available liquid has been recovered..then its standard recovery..ive used this on screws, recips etc... remove cores obviously..great videos, one of the most knowledgeable techs on the internet hands down...nice work Rick...👍👍
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks So Much For The Kind Words! I have used the Compressor similarly to what you're describing. Sometimes I'll even pump it down into the receiver, then suck it out of the receiver. Thanks so much for watching the video and for your continued support!
@johnregan2882
@johnregan2882 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next one!
@scottk0623
@scottk0623 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t get to worried about a few metal filings, everyone goes wild when they see someone cut or drill a line, guys, there are screens in txv’s, filter dryers and if they get to the compressor they collect in the dump.. Be cautious yes, be worried no.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I know, usually I see the guys using sawzalls. But I have a lot of people that never see this stuff and even me when I first started doing the bigger stuff flipped out. 9 years after doing the larger stuff and with a total of 28 years, I realize it really doesn't matter as much. But portraying that on video for the world to see is a lot harder. Thanks for the feedback!
@ayoutubewatcher7009
@ayoutubewatcher7009 2 ай бұрын
Build a mini gantry with strut and get a 4 wheel trolly. One end is set in the van and the other outside on the ground. I’d recommend using a tail pipe cutter for those tight spots.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 2 ай бұрын
Good ideas 👍👍
@businjay
@businjay Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Rick. Always appreciate your videos. Looking forward to part 2.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Your welcome, thanks for watching. hopefully I get back soon, it didn't happen Monday (today)
@jimglover1390
@jimglover1390 Жыл бұрын
Seeing The amount of refrigerant reminds me of the early days in the business; pre EPA. Hook up the hosees and wrap the outlet hose with a towel to help with the oil and just vent away. We did a few high capacity refrigeration burn outs with around two hundred pounds of total refrigerant. Now seems crazy after all these years.😂
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
surprised you bothered to catch the oil and not make a flammable oil vapor cloud 🤣
@eeeeweeezeee
@eeeeweeezeee Жыл бұрын
I like seeing larger systems like this, they're a bit rare on youtube.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC Жыл бұрын
Everything HVACR and HVAC TIME has a heavy commercial channel. He is my supervisor and extremely smart. I also have a small channel as well
@drewc7479
@drewc7479 Жыл бұрын
​@jasonjohnsonHVAC hvac time is the only channel on KZbin that shows cool/ larger equipment. He's the only one I actually watch now to learn. 90 percent of KZbin Is the most basic service calls maybe good for beginners
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC Жыл бұрын
@drewc7479 Holden is my supervisor...he is extremely smart
@stephenbullock-yn3vh
@stephenbullock-yn3vh Жыл бұрын
Awesome job guys.looking forward to part two👍
@AErefrigeration
@AErefrigeration Жыл бұрын
Today I bought two ZR57K3ETF5930 compressors for a double change out on a Carrier
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC Жыл бұрын
Welcome to my world. Replaced many of those. I really like all your videos....but i especially like when you show the larger equipment service and repair videos....Welcome to the dark side of heavy commercial and industrial. I recently put a video up of me replacing a ZP 385. They are heavy scrolls.....490 lbs....had to use a gantry and a chainfall
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason! I've been wanting to show these types of repairs for a while. I've been having to fight my way through to get the opportunity. Crazy 🙉
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC Жыл бұрын
​@HVACRSurvival i like all your content.....you are a sharp guy and i enjoy your content....much respect to you DJ Rickster.
@wd8557
@wd8557 Жыл бұрын
I go with two recovery tanks on big systems, I go directly from the liquid line to tank one, out of tank one to the recovery unit, to tank two.
@Kevin-wj4ed
@Kevin-wj4ed Жыл бұрын
Big money for that job!!!!!
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 Жыл бұрын
Nice job, I have changed a few of those compressors and don't have much use for them. Good luck and look forward to see the next video.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@isaiahsmith1933
@isaiahsmith1933 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully Monday goes better. Dope vid
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks Isaiah 🤜🤛👍👍
@RSBot2jar
@RSBot2jar Жыл бұрын
Just got a pair of these pliers and oh boy are they useful! Also, great video 🙂
@helmsajr
@helmsajr Жыл бұрын
Great job Rick
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@daleborg9070
@daleborg9070 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic job by Rick.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dale🤜🤛👍👍
@Gcanno
@Gcanno Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@sterlingarcher46
@sterlingarcher46 Жыл бұрын
One thing I hate about these compressors is that the oil equaliser pipe is behind , which depending on the equipment OEM can make it really touch to access.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a walk in the garden for sure. 🍺🍺 thanks Archer🤜🤛👍👍
@FrenchBeefCDN
@FrenchBeefCDN 9 ай бұрын
7:10 Get yourself an oscillating cutting tool, with a carbide blade for metal. Cut the pipe FLUSH with the compressor as close to the blue paint as you can. Then you can then REMOVE the compressor and UNSWEAT the fitting and keep the pipe in tact. Ive done this three times with YORK tandem compressors, same thing.The shavings should be minimal and can be wiped out with a rag or your finger. They dont make it easy to do, unfortunately but those Olscillating Multi tools are a life saver on many jobs and well worth keeping on your truck. HOWEVER I think your method is best by ordering the pipes from the OEM and making those connectings with couplings and clean copper... Cant make those bends easily in the field.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 9 ай бұрын
I purchased a special close quarters cutter that was recommended by a viewer in the comments. It cuts up to 2.5" if I remember correctly. But what your saying makes sense.
@FrenchBeefCDN
@FrenchBeefCDN 9 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival Interesting. Whatever works.
@qualitybarsolutions6107
@qualitybarsolutions6107 Жыл бұрын
Wow that was some change out, well Done Rick 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤟🏻
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 👍👍
@RjsEpicAdventures
@RjsEpicAdventures Жыл бұрын
Epic works dude learn a lot thanks for all the tips and can’t wait for H10 to find the leak or accutrak
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I'll probably use my Dtek Stratus, the h10 has lost quite a few battles, it used to be my go-to.
@crazycory25
@crazycory25 Жыл бұрын
I recertify those 125s where I work, and we change out those valves all the time for dual port valves
@kennybakerhvacr5751
@kennybakerhvacr5751 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos Rick
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching them!
@Eddy63
@Eddy63 Жыл бұрын
Well , you and D J made an epic job look pretty simple ... Your vids are always interesting with good content ... Thx Dynamic Duo
@sterlingarcher46
@sterlingarcher46 Жыл бұрын
We do have these Danfoss compressors here but I've never seen the contactor inside the electrical box like that, that's a 1st for me !
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I understand the benefit of having it closer but I'm not a fan of it being located there, especially outside.
@maheradous9257
@maheradous9257 8 ай бұрын
Very good job. 👍
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@kobie4238
@kobie4238 Жыл бұрын
22:41 the guy i work with hates my knipex as well🤣
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
They are jealous 😁✌️👍
@jakup10
@jakup10 Жыл бұрын
Nice video and work!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@maracservices
@maracservices Жыл бұрын
Nice video mate. Very cool.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@apprenticephil649
@apprenticephil649 Жыл бұрын
Hack and Jack are back!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
😂🤙
@ericmodernel9205
@ericmodernel9205 Жыл бұрын
It's a Hard Life in HVAC been doing it for 30 years.. Sucks when you have to deal with that compressor still running in your head all day long.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
True👍👍🍺🍺
@MarkCarpenterHVAC-me2jg
@MarkCarpenterHVAC-me2jg Жыл бұрын
I've been using Mass Airflow Cleaner instead of brake cleaner. Doesn't leave a residue, hurt plastics and designed for a delicate MAF.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Good idea, I've been just getting it from the shop, we stock it for multiple different reasons. The days of going to the supply house and getting what you want or long gone. Everything has to be ordered and gotten from there 😞
@aungthiha5050
@aungthiha5050 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so muh....................
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@802OutdoorAdventures
@802OutdoorAdventures Жыл бұрын
We wait on carrier for parts more than any other company we deal with. I know what you are saying about waiting for months on compressors.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I think I condemned this back at the end of November early December... I was off on my months
@mansourramzey7711
@mansourramzey7711 Жыл бұрын
Great job ✌👍
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
seeing the missing "can keys", for the tough to open ones you can wind the peel tab around pliers, same as the old twist key would do vs. brute force yanking it. that looked pretty easy to open though.
@hvacboy5591
@hvacboy5591 Жыл бұрын
Looks like ya got yourself a good apprentice!! Always enjoy watching Rick!! Those blue Danfoss compressor are junk, like everything else made these days i guess lol
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's been pretty impressive. I know those compressors are definitely heavy. Thanks for watching.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets Жыл бұрын
I'd need that device for moving any compressor in those dang old trane xl18 units. Or if I want to not live in pain when i get old.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Bingo 👍👍
@gtpforever
@gtpforever Жыл бұрын
I think I recognize those shirts and hats. 👍🏼
@Jcicaroni82
@Jcicaroni82 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna guess the reason the push pull method didn't work is because you're not getting liquid off of that discharge line you're just pushing vapor and sucking vapor if you were able to get tapped on to an actual liquid line it might have worked I've never done it myself but that's my guess
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
And it didn't help that I already had lost 40 lb of refrigerant. I believe that's the big key issue here because you can't recover the whole system by push-pull only the liquid.
@patriknilsson2175
@patriknilsson2175 Жыл бұрын
Really nice vid!!! 👍 When can we see pt.2? How is it going with the "killer unit"?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
They are dragging their feet to approve me coming back.
@cthomaspac
@cthomaspac Жыл бұрын
Usally. We will add acid scavenger , and change the oil in all other remaining compressors , then take an acid test. 😉
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I like doing that on smaller systems. I just go with the flow. I don't want to insist on something when the guy that quotes it's been doing it 40 years
@robertrichardson5026
@robertrichardson5026 Жыл бұрын
Rock solid repair and video. Been doing this a while, and everybody has an opinion. Damn good job.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated. Thanks for watching and feedback!
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
the bright side was.. it's not on a roof! 🤪
@danpresson
@danpresson Жыл бұрын
That was a awesome video look forward to 2nd video
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@a3agnello
@a3agnello Жыл бұрын
Damn we’ve all been there…pain in the Dick get it done and something above and beyond is an issue…never a good feeling
@GlenS123
@GlenS123 Жыл бұрын
Worked on many many AquCrap's, buy a new board and have them install updated software. Problems will decrease dramatically. (superheat control issue) One site with 150 ton, 6 compressors, changed 9 of them. New software, no more failures.
@hansmuller1625
@hansmuller1625 Жыл бұрын
Glad i'm not the only one who refers to them as AquaCraps. Once i saw he was carrying out two Maneurops i thought it had to be an aquacrap. Those things are quite solid otherwise. Fortunately i only have to take care of four of them, swapped out two compressors last year. I know of another installation which has eight dual compressor water/water aquacraps. Last time i checked in with them six were out of service.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
That's interesting you happen to say something about the programming, just day or two earlier a guy had to go out there and actually reprogram the module because it lost it's memory.
@GlenS123
@GlenS123 Жыл бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival Carrier won't admit problem. Also oil level 1/2 of sightglass, some manuals state full sightglass.
@FloodedStart
@FloodedStart Жыл бұрын
I think the push pull recovery method probably only works if you can pull liquid from the equipment, if you're pulling vapor into the recovery tank it's not going to condense there (or not much anyway), any refrigerant that condenses through the recovery machine will just boil off in the unit to get pulled back through the tank as vapor? I'm not an expert but that's my thinking.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
No you're correct, it was low 40 lb but at the time I didn't know that, that's why I left it in there but didn't mention it later because it all comes to realization after being completed. But not at the time of recording.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
yeah, it needs to be fully charged and at resting pressure for whatever gas type it is and maintained at that pressure or you'll end up flashing it into vapor and pumping that in a big circle. the pitfalls of a low system. 🤔
@davidberger4726
@davidberger4726 10 ай бұрын
Do an oil/acid test after running it for a while.
@mypindiwala
@mypindiwala Жыл бұрын
Love this video.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛👍👍
@coldfinger459sub0
@coldfinger459sub0 Жыл бұрын
Do you use the red Loctite for refrigerant? That’s also a Sealant when you put your brass threaded refrigerant ports in the top of the aluminum plate of the filter shell housing?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I've never had to use loctite on them. If I had issues with vibration having them come undone sure.
@alexurzua52
@alexurzua52 Жыл бұрын
You had to hook up your gauges after the condenser to get liquid if I heard correctly you hooked up to the discharge.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Yes, I pulled from the discharge, it's the closest spot to the condenser and I wanted liquid.
@veil67
@veil67 Жыл бұрын
if it’s not too private , what is the unit use for with those 3 compressors ?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Cooling water used to keep the machinery inside cool. It can cool either welders, punch presses I forget what this one was hooked up to, I was technically they're back in December so it's been almost seven flipping months
@kennethlobo4420
@kennethlobo4420 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed ur video, just a question when u disconnected the oil equalizer lines from the old compressors and found no oil in the compressors do u think the oil was in the system?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
There was oil in there it just wasn't high enough to come out. Yeah I believe it was in the system it wouldn't have gone anywhere else cuz I didn't see anything on the ground.
@austintheurer
@austintheurer Жыл бұрын
The hardest part on those aqua snaps are those oil gaskets and nut on the back of the compressors to me there the easiest air cooled chillers to work on
@tysonrojas5477
@tysonrojas5477 9 ай бұрын
I’d check the fan speeds and make. Sure they are operational if not maybe the level of compressors is off since it need a slights pitch for oil
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 9 ай бұрын
I assume you're referring to the condenser fan speed? The inside is water transfer only. What are you trying to find out with the fan speed? Compressors were shorted to ground, my super heat was fine coming back to the compressors, and my head pressure was normal for the ambient that I was working in?
@tysonrojas5477
@tysonrojas5477 9 ай бұрын
I'm assuming they were running hot since they are discolored and usually I seen these with vfds has one where they would not ramp up fast enough when loaded causing them to run hot and not trip the hp but enough to cook some oil In this instant id change out the oil entirely and check to make sure that common suction is pitched towards compressors to help bring back oil I've seen tons of comp burnouts and it's always oil
@dersieborg5088
@dersieborg5088 Жыл бұрын
Please look for the conditions for using the "push and pull" recovery method and how to do it. Unfortunately your stetting can´t work. You "Recover" from the condenser to the evaporator if you push liquid into the suction line. The Method just works with liquid refrigerant in the system and left vapor in the system, so you have to change the setting for full recovery. Liquid from the System pushed into the recovery cylinder. The vapor over the liquid is pushed to the recovery unit an is compressed to hot gas vapor. This vapor with higher pressure is used to to increase the pressure above the liquid in the system and push the liquid into the recovery cylinder. The compressor of the recovery unit ensures a lower pressure in the recovery cylinder compared to the system. If your compressor is not working, the refrigerant is liquid at the coldest point of the system (sometimes in the evaporator), unless it is pumped out into the receiver beforehand.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I think what killed me was the fact that it was already 40 lb low. I didn't realize that at the time and I knew things didn't work out right but I decided to leave it in there. Even if it did make me look less knowledgeable.
@dersieborg5088
@dersieborg5088 Жыл бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival This recovery setting has just triggert me to comment the video. ...Last week I wonder why a compressor was not running ...turned out I looked at the false one... and I know this Unit. Don´t know why it took me ten minutes to realize it. Sometimes the brain run in mysterious directions ;)
@ayoutubewatcher7009
@ayoutubewatcher7009 2 ай бұрын
You did all that work in 2 days ? That would have taken 4 days for me..
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 2 ай бұрын
We get pushed with unrealistic time frames often.
@glenjones4404
@glenjones4404 4 ай бұрын
Danfoss Manurope Performa scroll probably 15 to 20 HP scrolls found them to be not that reliable compared to Copeland scroll compressors and they are very expensive to buy even back in the day !!! There's a part in them that breaks easy apparently and thats probably the reason???
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
The scroll compressor was perfected by Copeland. It’s a closely guarded secret on how they make it even though the other ones are making it the same style. Obviously, there’s a difference.
@glenjones4404
@glenjones4404 3 ай бұрын
The component materials might be a clue and they run very hot from what I can remember???
@joshuaricks7730
@joshuaricks7730 Жыл бұрын
It’s probably the filter dryer gasket or the oil lines. Put a proper wrench on the union nut.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I'm afraid of if I can't find a leak.
@aedanwhyte6134
@aedanwhyte6134 Жыл бұрын
What’s your tip to soldering those bad boys in, I had a hard time once on the same compressors ended up having to use blue tip ( 45% silver ) to get the compressor soldered in!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
That's a micro rosebud tip right there. It makes it pretty simple, The main thing is heating up your male fitting going into the compressor first and working your way into the fitting.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill Жыл бұрын
I'll admit I don't understand what push-pull recovery helps with (haven't researched it at all), though I can say the manual for your recovery machine comes with a nice diagram to set it up. (I have the same machine.) It will be interesting to see where the leak turns out to be, if it is revealed in part 2.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
more or less, it's a way to recover the liquid refrigerant, while keeping it in liquid state, you're basically keeping the system standing pressure high enough, so it doesn't all want to turn to vapor/gas and take days to recover. probably not the best explanation by far, I'm sure not a teacher. 🤡
@heavydiesel
@heavydiesel Жыл бұрын
Basically you'd want to pump the system down, connect the receiver to the recovery cylinder liquid port, then pull out of the vapour port on the recovery cylinder with your recovery machine and dump the high pressure gas into the systems compressor discharge connection. High pressure in the condenser pushes the liquid out of the system, lower pressure in the cylinder pulls the liquid in. Once all the liquid is out of the system you need to reconfigure your hoses to pull the remaining vapour out of the system.
@cdoleoj1
@cdoleoj1 11 ай бұрын
In a push/pull you are using refrigerant vapor to push the liquid refrigerant out of the unit and into the recovery tank, since you are pulling vapor from the recovery tank using the recovery machine, the pressure inside the tank will be lower than the pressure in the unit you are servicing, thus moving the liquid by virtue of pressure differential. Now push/pull is only worth it in large equipment with flooded evaporators where you can recover big amount of liquid refrigerant, DX equipment push pull is a complete waste of time as he found out. Push pull creates a pressure differential between the recovery tank and the unit being serviced, once there is no more liquid in the unit, then a conventional gas recovery is done, but since there is no liquid inside the unit, pressure should drop fast. One way to tell that you push pull was not complete, is that when you move to your vapor recovery stage, the pressure will not come down, meaning you are burning liquid (flashing liquid).
@johnwalker890
@johnwalker890 Жыл бұрын
I think you still did a good job, because it might not be your fault on the leak, because like you said the factory charge was low, so it could be leaking in the line set or evaporator or valves, you might have to put some refrigerant in the system to find the leak, Is that Clayton sporting the beard? He looks like an old man country boy now.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Yep that's him. He had just done with these with the other guys that's why he had so much good knowledge.
@commenter5469
@commenter5469 Жыл бұрын
Well. Looks like they did have pretty good starting/protection components, so undervoltage or single phasing shouldn’t be happening. Too high of a compressor superheat, or refrigerant migration causing inter winding shorts/low insulation resistance. Low evap. superheat, especially for chillers, is usual suspect. Like I said in my other comment - these are little more forgiving on liquid slugging, but too much of liquid refrigerant in the winding is detrimental.
@Kevin-wj4ed
@Kevin-wj4ed Жыл бұрын
Fun fun
@williampfendler1786
@williampfendler1786 Жыл бұрын
Try a exhaust tailpipe cutter works wonders in tight spaces like that
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I actually picked up a cutter that can do from quarter inch up a 2 and 3/8 called the wheeler-rex model number 4992. Made in the USA and should get into some of these tight spots one of the few hours mentioned it. Very expensive but I needed to spend my tool Money anyway
@roqueherrera8471
@roqueherrera8471 Жыл бұрын
DUUUUDE haven’t seen your videos lately bruh
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Why not?????
@abdullah_q8171
@abdullah_q8171 11 ай бұрын
What type of compressor is used in Carrier ?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 11 ай бұрын
Depends on the application.
@btomas225
@btomas225 5 ай бұрын
Is there a link to part 2?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 5 ай бұрын
No. It wasn’t worth recording. I found the leak on the end coil.
@eastcoast186
@eastcoast186 Жыл бұрын
1 class as also Rick
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated 🙏👍👍
@jsfkdkjslfdslfkdj
@jsfkdkjslfdslfkdj Жыл бұрын
Should have come off the liquid line for your push pull, not discharge. There HAS to be liquid at the gauge port where you attach your hose from the system to the tank. Discharge line almost never has liquid sitting in it. Best thing is to set it up to “push” through the evap, into suction and out of liquid line. If you have LLSV’s, after that you can “push” into the discharge and come off your liquid line into the tank. Once all the liquid is out, you have to switch to regular recovery. I recovered 100lbs of liquid in 15 and a half minutes, and the last 18 pounds of vapor took another hour.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
That would make more sense. That's why I kept checking the diagram but with that being 40 lb low on refrigerant I don't know how much liquid would have been left
@jsfkdkjslfdslfkdj
@jsfkdkjslfdslfkdj Жыл бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival didn’t realize it was 40 lbs low, probably not much liquid left in it anyway.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
@@jsfkdkjslfdslfkdj yep, it held 90lbs on that circuit
@adrianperez5628
@adrianperez5628 Жыл бұрын
You need a WheelerRex cutter.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
That looks badass 👍👍 I'm going to see about maybe getting one of those. Have you ever used one? Are they worth of crap do they sidetrack while cutting?
@adrianperez5628
@adrianperez5628 Жыл бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival We’ve cut just inside of the OEM piping bends w/ it. Then use the Navac Tube Expander to make short swage fittings.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to get one ordered now
@ericmodernel9205
@ericmodernel9205 Жыл бұрын
What was the price on this job? great job
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I just seen what the cost was for the compressors. I didn't see what the sale price was with labor and material.
@timothygoltz1372
@timothygoltz1372 Жыл бұрын
What size rosebud tip and brand do you use? It’s an interesting looking rosebud
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I always post information about the tools in the description below, I think I even posted something in the comments section and PINNED it to the top.
@timothygoltz1372
@timothygoltz1372 Жыл бұрын
Alright cool. Really like the videos. F*ck the haters
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support🤜🤛👍👍
@illumiNOTme326
@illumiNOTme326 Жыл бұрын
What sprayed on the compressors?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I believe that was oil from bleeding the hose
@c_young-hvac4586
@c_young-hvac4586 Жыл бұрын
What i cant figure out is why the heck are you depriving your hand future back issues 😅
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
🤷🤣
@RjsEpicAdventures
@RjsEpicAdventures Жыл бұрын
I cannot find those Rosebud tips and amazons ones say they blow up
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
If you use the link you make me a percent or two but you still pay the same money. You want to make sure you got the matching handle they don't work very good with other brands. I got a lot of backfire. amzn.to/3OkEAgB amzn.to/3K0jktT amzn.to/3rx37pI amzn.to/46TAjaV
@tedhicks5431
@tedhicks5431 Жыл бұрын
At least it's not on the roof
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Nope that's where the other compressor was changed out that I use this lift at.
@stephenotto2294
@stephenotto2294 Жыл бұрын
Why dont you clean your pip before you cut it so less chance of getting debris inside the pipe
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I do it both ways, it was big enough I could easily reach in and wipe it out
@publicmail2
@publicmail2 Жыл бұрын
What is tonnage?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
60
@harrydickson4575
@harrydickson4575 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@numanmirza9584
@numanmirza9584 Жыл бұрын
Before replace the new compressor must be flush the system and replace the new magnetic contactor
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
How much chiller work do you do? You're not going to flush this system. And 90% of the time that flushes is a bunch of garbage. And the contactors were replaced, I believe I mentioned that in the video but nobody listens or watches the whole video so that's probably why you didn't notice it.
@numanmirza9584
@numanmirza9584 Жыл бұрын
When i replace the compressor i must be flush the all system condenser and evaporator
@vincentgelles3805
@vincentgelles3805 Жыл бұрын
Great work Rick! I have a question about the Inficon d-tek 3 leak detector. I bought one almost 3 years ago after I saw your video about it. It was the best leak detector I ever owned up until a couple months ago. Now when I turn it on and wait for it to warm up, it will run fine for about 60 seconds and then it starts going off in clean air. Only one of the green lights on top will flash but it will make its way from the first or second light all the way to the last light on the right. I’ve replaced the filter and just today I bought a new sensor and installed it but it’s still doing the same thing. Battery is fully charged and the pump is working. Any idea what it could be? I tried calling Inficon but I haven’t been able to talk to anyone. I bought it through Tru Tech Tools so I’m not sure if I can send it in to be calibrated or what. Just figured I’d try asking you first since I know you have a lot of experience with Inficon. I absolutely loved the leak detector until it started acting up and I just want it to start working like it did before. I’m hoping I don’t have to drop over $500 for a new one!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I actually was having problems with my Stratus yesterday with the pump motor, luckily I have my dtech 3 as a backup. I wonder if the pump is acting up on yours ? I think it's replaceable. Call tru tech tools, they're supposed to give us good support and find out what they can do for you. I'm trying to get a hold of my guy at inficon I haven't heard back from him yet.
@vincentgelles3805
@vincentgelles3805 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting back with me so quick! I actually called Tru Tech this morning on the way to my first call. I was on hold for almost 30 minutes and then the call got disconnected, very frustrating. I called back and left a message so hopefully I’ll get a response sometime today.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
My guy at inficon said check the probe make sure it's not something plugging it up. Otherwise let me know if true tech doesn't come through for you
@vincentgelles3805
@vincentgelles3805 Жыл бұрын
I checked it’s not plugged. I was hoping it would be something simple like that. I did put a new filter in the tip, gave the battery a full charge and changed the sensor but it’s still messing up. It actually still detects refrigerant I cracked a tank this morning and it did start going off faster. The problem is, once it warms up and runs for about a minute it starts going off in clean air with no refrigerant present. I’ve tried it inside my house, my van and several other places but every time it does the same thing. It warms up and then just starts going off. I got a hold of Tru Tech today and they said there’s nothing they can do because it’s out of warranty. He gave me Inficon’s number and I spoke to a woman from there today. She said I may have gotten water down the tip and messed up the circuit board. She said I can take it to United Refrigeration and they’ll ship it off to get fixed. I’m not sure how much it’s going to cost but that might be my only option since it’s almost 3 years old and the warranty is only for 2 unfortunately
@vincentgelles3805
@vincentgelles3805 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t bring it to United today but I did call them and they said if I pay shipping both ways and the cost of the repair, they will get it fixed for me. I may not have a choice. I’m back to using an older Fieldpiece heated diode detector and that thing sucks. It gives so many false hits that I just can’t trust it. I always try to verify with Big Blu but sometimes it’s in a spot where you can’t.
@samcanada2346
@samcanada2346 Жыл бұрын
Job vis available in u
@Kevin-wj4ed
@Kevin-wj4ed Жыл бұрын
$32000?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I only know what the cost of the compressor was I don't have a clue what we sold it for.
@Kevin-wj4ed
@Kevin-wj4ed Жыл бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival had one replaced this year 20 ton $16000
@karaors8970
@karaors8970 10 ай бұрын
+1
@shine-cg9uf
@shine-cg9uf Жыл бұрын
❄️🇺🇸👍💪🙏
@ping_me1vp
@ping_me1vp Жыл бұрын
definitely should’ve unsweat it no biggie whatsoever
@commenter5469
@commenter5469 Жыл бұрын
Those supposed to be more resilient against slugging. But track record doesn’t support that about those Euro Danfoss wonders.
@hansmuller1625
@hansmuller1625 Жыл бұрын
They are quite solid. But for some reason not when installed in carrier units. Before getting to take care of a bunch of aquacraps i only ever had one fail in my 17 years of hvac.
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