Double Dare - April 27, 1977

[@imal25]

ALEX TREBEK WE WILL MISS YOU TOO!

[@fornitegood122jr6]

We love you Alex

[@ryanstrnad8442]

A very underrated game show. May have premiered about 5 or so years too early.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

And sadly, Viacom was able to steal the name (legally, unfortunately) for their Beat The Clock rip-off years later due to this show's failings.

[@discoweasel1977]

This episode of Alex Trebek’s version of Double Dare was aired exactly three years before my birthday.

[@notmyrealname2592]

I can't help but think of Eugene Levy from Second City Television when I see Alex Trebek at this age.

[@davidjackino8831]

Trebek said recently Levy imitated him best, not Will Farrell. No Schitt.

[@georgemaster9271]

Yeah,Alex Trebel on SCTV.

[@Zkhan2475]

Alex would do high rollers pitfall and battle stars before starting Jeopardy he also did Classic Concentration and To Tell The Truth. What a legend 😢

[@kenbob1071]

The Washington Post: If you don't get it, you don't get it. Looks like Carmen didn't get it.

[@ericmodzelesky4810]

In this play, Portia gives the speech which begins, "The quality of mercy is not strained". Shakespeare wrote this tragicomedy after "The Comedy of Errors", but before his "Two Gentlemen of Verona". This play may have been written to compete with Christopher Marlowe's popular comedy with a similar theme called "The Jew of Malta". This play's female lead was played by Ethel Barrymore in 1925, Peggy Wood in 1928, Maude Adams in 1931 and Katharine Hepburn in 1957.

[@imal25]

This is the 3rd to last episode of Alex Trebek Run On Dare.

[@animfan1100]

Alex Trebek reads the clues on “Double Dare” the exact same way he does it on “Jeopardy!”

[@sdrawkcab735]

He definitely has the proper cadence for a game show.

[@tnawcwvictoria]

To me, Alex was more loose on Double Dare than on J!, he was also more loose on most of his NBC Game Shows (The Wizards of Odds, High Rollers, Battlestars & Classic Concentration) than on J!

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@@tnawcwvictoria - With the way Jeopardy's format worked, it was tougher to pull off. That, or Merv Griffin is an asshole as usual.

[@philershadi6037]

Dr. Doty is an excellent villain, but Dr. Burns seems like a good dude

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

The REAL villains are the writers who at times will throw out too many easy clues that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to win!

[@Tubewings]

Dr. Ralph Doty...the one Spoiler the fans loved to hate.

[@donaldpaluga]

Would have been funny if he got buzzed for taking too long.

[@tnawcwvictoria]

Dr. Doty was the J.R. Ewing and the Sly Winkle of Double Dare

[@drewconway7135]

@@donaldpaluga He should have. He’s an ass.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@@drewconway7135 - Blame the judges for being morons!

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

But the writers are even worse since they have a knack of writing too many easy clues to the point it becomes impossible to win! See: the Nikita Khrushchev (#9), Stock Market Crash (#63) and especially the Popeye The Sailor Man (#20) episodes to see what I mean.

[@rodney1279TheFlip]

As Alex Trebek was saying Carmen had to be specific. The ruling was right. The Post could have been anything.

[@donaldpaluga]

NY Post, Seattle Post-Intelligencer

[@rodney1279TheFlip]

Yep.

[@juan833blue]

donald paluga The Denver Post as well.

[@andrewschroy6368]

+Juan Melendez And the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. EDIT: And there's also the Palm Beach Post and the Jerusalem Post (the only English-language newspaper I know of from Israel). EDIT 2: Forgot another one-- the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. EDIT 3: And the Connecticut Post as well.

[@paulbalares2307]

Exactly

[@richardhernandez4490]

I have to admit, the judges really did make the right call on Carmen, even though she was upset. Specificity sometimes can rear it's ugly head. In this case, she really needed to be specific. It burned her.

[@drewconway7135]

She burned herself, and her bad attitude was very unbecoming. When Alex asked her to be more specific she went more general, and then she let six more clues go by without another attempt at the answer. She has no one to blame but herself.

[@robertcarter9383]

She forgot there's "The New York Post," among others with "Post" in the name.

[@lynettepalecek3141]

@@drewconway7135 I agree with you completely!! I thought that Carmen acted like a spoiled brat. I was so glad that she lost.

[@lilbluefoxie]

In New York they often call the NY Post just "The Post" so thats why they were a bit tough on her with the answer

[@lynettepalecek3141]

@@lilbluefoxie They weren't tough on her. Alex said right before he started reading the clues that the answer must be very specific. She didn't do that. She was behaving like a spoiled rotten brat and she didn't get away with it.

[@lilbluefoxie]

Dr Doty is my favorite of the spoilers

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

He's one of the all-time greats. Other greats: James Baker Lee Franz Sally Wallace Kathy Asari --- Worst spoilers: Father Richard Trans Edward Taylor Ted Bartel

[@nextbarker2702]

To my knowledge, this was Alex's only game show for CBS

[@willmack5909]

I imagine Alex was never happier to see a contestant lose, nor happier to bid farewell to a contestant as that Carmen. What a ninny.

[@lynettepalecek3141]

I agree. Carmen was obnoxious and rude. She didn't want to admit that she was wrong. I was so glad that she lost!!!!

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

Of course, that meant having to watch the dullest Spoiler Double Dare champion ever go on to win the same number of spoiler matches as Alan Lusher. Thankfully, the show got canceled before she had a chance to break Lusher's record...unless she ended up losing, which she was thankfully. And all because Carmen was a moron!

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@@lynettepalecek3141 - I'm not glad that Carmen was a moron too. It meant having to put up with the dullest Spoiler Double Dare champion ever winning THREE spoiler matches in a row.

[@paulnguyen8910]

If there was a clue to "Peyton Place", this could've been one: Mia Farrow cut her own hair to change her looks and later disappeared, never to return.

[@PH-un8bo]

I love this show but I can see why people say it's too slow. They repeat the clues too often, especially in the Spoilers round. Once all 4 passes were gone, they could just bring up the spoilers and read the clue.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

That's actually what they did during the first three weeks! Once you use your last pass, Alex would stop analyzing the clues and go straight to the spoilers. I don't need to hear bimbo Janet McGuirk whine about the fact she is about to lose on "Welcome Back, Kotter" after she stupidly passed on some clues she should have given! Whoever thought it was a good idea to change it so Alex starts analyzing the clues that can't be passed starting with the Princess Anne episode (#16) should have been 19th letter 8th letter 15th letter 20th letter! The main game I will admit needs improvement though. But how do you do it without ripping off Jeopardy's! excellent main game (remember what happened to Wink Martindale's Debt that ripped off Jeopardy!)? It's a darn shame Final Jeopardy is too entrenched at this point to change it (remember Super Jeopardy during Art Fleming's final season hosting the show?) to Beat The Spoilers, let alone Goodson-Todman beating Merv Griffin to that concept first. Jeopardy!=Great main game, anti-climatic bonus round Spoiler Double Dare=Dull main game, best bonus round ever

[@someguy23475]

I wonder if she went to S&P afterwards? She obviously felt wronged. I agree with the ruling, BTW.

[@NYIslander12]

someguy23475 It's the right call. The Post could mean the New York Post as far as I know. Too ambiguous of an answer.

[@therealjeff-0459]

the day I was born

[@spacemanmonster23]

You know, if this show lasted longer, I'd love to see a battle of the Spoilers week where different spoilers played in both front and emd games.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

Great idea! Or better yet, the most successful contestants of all-time like Alan Lusher and Ray Winston in the spoiler booths!

[@ryanstrnad8442]

For some reason, I would've like to have seen (or heard) John Harlan announce on this show.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

John Harlan is another all-time great. Lynn Thigpen from Carmen Sandiego could have been an interesting announcer for Spoiler Double Dare too. Johnny Olsen (first 25 episodes) is the king though.

[@shoredude2]

Holland is a part of The Netherlands, not a synonym for it. It's similar to how England is a part of the United Kingdom.

[@drewconway7135]

Well… no, not exactly. England is a country. Holland is not a country, but rather two provinces. It’s more like how Ontario is a part of Canada

[@richardhernandez4490]

...and I thought Ray Winston who had a rough time with the Spoilers was a bad sport when he lost his last match to Marie. I thought wrong. Carmen did Ray one step further with her sportsmanship when she lost to Ilene.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

Carmen's whining was during the Washington Post segment. She didn't do anything poor after she lost the match. Too bad Carmen showed she had the intelligence of a sign post during the Washington Post, as Ilene has to be the dullest, most undeserving three-time spoiler beating champion ever. Thank god, Ilene never got a chance to surpass Alan Lusher.

[@PUFFFIRE]

Carmen was upset too bad.

[@lynettepalecek3141]

She was a sore loser.

[@fornitegood122jr6]

Really bad

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

Yeah. Too bad she was a moron. She could have spared us of dull Ilene ALMOST breaking Alan Lusher's record a couple of days later if the show didn't get canceled...

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@@lynettepalecek3141 - She was an idiot! I wanted her to take down dull Ilene so badly, but Carmen's stupidity on The Washington Post was her undoing.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@@fornitegood122jr6 - Really bad indeed. Thanks to Carmen's stupidity, we had to put up with dull Ilene and her stupid "looking up with her mouth opened in the booth" occasionally!

[@BlackwoodCompany]

Ilene has to be one of the luckiest players I'd ever seen.

[@Official_Kings_Versus]

I second that ! 💯

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

And one of the dullest!

[@SJSharkWannabe]

Probably the most sore contestant I've ever watched.

[@drewconway7135]

She really was a rancid bitch, wasn’t she?

[@lynettepalecek3141]

Yes, I agree completely!

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@@drewconway7135 - And her stupidity meant watching dull Ilene win THREE spoiler matches in a row, and then when she finally meets someone that exposes Ilene for the fraud she is, the show gets canceled.

[@amberearls8597]

Why are they using the theme from Card Sharks?

[@andrewschroy6368]

+Amber Earls Uh... 'cause both shows are Goodson-Todman? :D

[@georgemaster9271]

LittleRockElevators The DD theme sounds similar to the Card Sharks theme,but with some alterations.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@@georgemaster9271 - Actually, the Card Sharks version was played when they would go to a commercial break on Spoiler Double Dare.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@LittleRockElevators - No, this is Spoiler Double Dare's theme. But because it was so good, combined with Spoiler Double Dare getting screwed over, they decided to make it the "original" theme song for Card Sharks. The REAL "original" Card Sharks theme wouldn't happened until the show's move to (ironically) CBS with Bob Eubanks replacing Mr. Sale Of The Century (at that point), Jim Perry.

[@broadhurst04]

Somehow, I don't think I would like Carmen very much.

[@drewconway7135]

Somehow I don’t think anybody would

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

@@drewconway7135 - Ilene's dullness is almost as bad. Just makes Carmen's stupidity (along with the next couple of morons until John) look even worse for that.

[@jamesbonnen]

If the spoilers would've acted like wrestlers the show might have survived

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

Or if the America weren't a bunch of morons that prefer mindless game shows like The Price Is Right, then it would have survived.

[@lynettepalecek3141]

I was really glad that Carmen lost. She was very obnoxious and rude.

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

Too bad she had the intelligence of a Incarnate Word grad, as I would have preferred her over dull Ilene.

[@ryanprobst8336]

A spoiler is a nincompoop lol

[@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154]

*The writers are nincompoops lol* Fixed.

[@mrfloxin]

Double Dare's song sounds just like Jim Perry's Card Sharks song. Why you wanted to recycle a song at all?

[@mjnarcy]

They used the theme song from this show to Jim Perry's Card Sharks.

[@davidabbruzzi9088]

+Matty Narcy Even right down to the poem in the opening credits.

[@mrfloxin]

Could you explain your answer to me?

[@artytoons]

CBS's "Double Dare's" run was relatively short (December 1976 to April 1977) and some CBS stations did not carry the show. The producers liked the song and clapping opening enough to recycle the song for "Card Sharks"...it may be possible that NBC executives approved the production of Card Sharks for their daytime schedule for 1978 that Goodson and Todman had to rush in the development in the show to get into broadcast-ready mode to reuse the Double Dare theme for Sharks. The song was still fresh and possibly viewers in certain parts of the US would be hearing the song for the first time when they tuned into Card Sharks.

[@mrfloxin]

Thank you for the information. Something I didn't know at all.. I guess you can learn just about anything right here on KZbin.