Double layer PCB prototyping 0.1 mm traces/spaces

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WEGSTR s.r.o.

WEGSTR s.r.o.

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@marcus_w0
@marcus_w0 5 жыл бұрын
From my own experience i know how hard it is, to build a machine capable of doing this. You guys did absolutely fantastic. The leveling and the balance of the tools is impressive.
@Bastel_Boys
@Bastel_Boys 6 жыл бұрын
Where the hell do you get such a huge toothbrush?!
@jibjibam
@jibjibam 6 жыл бұрын
It bel8bged to Gulliver
@arnavrawat9864
@arnavrawat9864 3 жыл бұрын
From any regular department store
@dawid_1021
@dawid_1021 3 жыл бұрын
Title literally: 0.1 mm traces
@Eighteen19
@Eighteen19 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@GruVital
@GruVital Жыл бұрын
Тут интересен сам процесс изготовления плат, а не заказ заводских плат. Автор красава, поддерживаю твоё хобби.👍🏻
@ESTEBANTMAN
@ESTEBANTMAN 4 жыл бұрын
everything is fun until you start soldering
@georgejames3868
@georgejames3868 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@rongarza9488
@rongarza9488 4 жыл бұрын
@Esteban Rodríquez That's right, Esteban, nobody "loves" to solder, they lie if they say they do. I finally learned to live with it. For me, painting the joint with liquid flux first made my life a whole lot easier. I also paint the soldering iron tip with flux before I turn it on.
@einsteinx2
@einsteinx2 4 жыл бұрын
@Ron Garza not sure if you’re joking or not, but there are certainly people that enjoy soldering...I know because I’m one of them. And no I’m not lying haha
@MrMaxtomi1
@MrMaxtomi1 4 жыл бұрын
@@rongarza9488I love solder...
@VegaMaker
@VegaMaker 4 жыл бұрын
He will do soldering after coating and go engraving on soldering spots. So, it's extremely easy and still fun.
@jayc2469
@jayc2469 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably been said, but from an Engineering perspective, this is better than porn
@seemslegit6203
@seemslegit6203 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Enes-wj5xq
@Enes-wj5xq 3 жыл бұрын
Porn damages your brain cells, scientifically proved
@omegab4k4
@omegab4k4 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enes-wj5xq AND?
@stanley8006
@stanley8006 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enes-wj5xq ok, what about sexual art that's been a part of human culture since post cave-man times? Wooden woman sculptures & that & beyond
@sankang9425
@sankang9425 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enes-wj5xq LOL breathing damages your brain cells too. This one is also scientifically proven
@jupiterise
@jupiterise 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine drawing some fractals in tiny pieces of metal like this, it would make nice souvenirs
@АндрейСлавянин-о6б
@АндрейСлавянин-о6б 5 жыл бұрын
God, I can't believe my eyes. It's incredible, but I know it's possible. Just a fairy tale for a perfectionist.
@_adamalfath
@_adamalfath 5 жыл бұрын
this is the best pcb cnc milling machines I ever see, yet the price is not quite meet the student/hobbyist budget :D
@muhammadali.8170
@muhammadali.8170 5 жыл бұрын
If this isn't the most satisfying video, idk what is
@HairyTheCandyMan
@HairyTheCandyMan 4 жыл бұрын
"Yo Yo, yo Yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo Yooyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo Bing bing bing YOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYO''
@matthewmcclain1316
@matthewmcclain1316 4 жыл бұрын
Bow dow bow bow boy yoy oy
@wrench_in
@wrench_in 3 жыл бұрын
Bow Bow bow bowbowbow bowbowbowbow bowbowbowbowbow bowbowbowbowbowbow bowbowbowbowbowbowbow
@daviddrake6744
@daviddrake6744 3 жыл бұрын
Pppp
@flowerfullgirl_
@flowerfullgirl_ 3 жыл бұрын
DELAY LAMA LOL
@Seba_World
@Seba_World 3 жыл бұрын
2021 Mat, Poland here: Ojojojojjjj , bzyyyy 🎹🇵🇱
@PhdHung
@PhdHung 5 жыл бұрын
Magic, it's magic, I can't take my eyes off the screen.
@EricTViking
@EricTViking 4 жыл бұрын
It'd be good to occasionally see it a bit more zoomed out so we can see the whole machine 👍
@lucasfritz2786
@lucasfritz2786 4 жыл бұрын
This is very satisfying
@thexavier666
@thexavier666 4 жыл бұрын
Where do i buy that giant toothbrush from?
@isaacakyigit159
@isaacakyigit159 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@SuperDominicS
@SuperDominicS 3 жыл бұрын
Google: Here are some results for "big toothbrushs" *shows a slightly larger toothbrush* Bing:
@IndianTelephone
@IndianTelephone 4 жыл бұрын
I like how there was a random "here's a match for scale" appearance and I was thinking, whata giant match, lok
@josegabrielsantos9816
@josegabrielsantos9816 4 жыл бұрын
Lo mejor en cnc pcb .,precision, calidad y elegancia el arte de elaboar circuito impreso ...te estoy esperndo casi dos años pero ya, con Dios mediantes ..te tengo en este mes.
@ProjectDetonado
@ProjectDetonado 4 жыл бұрын
Well, i don't know what this is, but it was very satisfying to watch.
@ferdianwahyu6952
@ferdianwahyu6952 4 жыл бұрын
Its your hardware robot XD
@attherate123
@attherate123 4 жыл бұрын
I think, this was a board of pendrive
@Ponytamin
@Ponytamin 4 жыл бұрын
Если этот фрезер попутно играет эту музыку - не важно, сколько он стоит.
@ВиталийСлотин
@ВиталийСлотин 6 жыл бұрын
Когда в кадре появилась голова зубной щётки.. я поржал откровенно!.. просто ни когда не зрил такого контраста!!)) Клёвая работа! ЗашибисьН!!
@euvitmultiserviciosevgenyp7019
@euvitmultiserviciosevgenyp7019 4 жыл бұрын
А как тебе молоток!
@SysDaemon
@SysDaemon 5 жыл бұрын
This would be a great machine for RF engineers - they could tinker with circuit layouts without the wait for regular PCB turnaround times - most of their stuff is 2-sided at the most!
@jpgmoreno
@jpgmoreno 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, it's a pleasure to watch your videos
@MILAN-ye5ns
@MILAN-ye5ns 5 жыл бұрын
It is very relaxing to watch the video without music :)
@serjinmachado90
@serjinmachado90 3 жыл бұрын
Dude... What an incredible recommendation from KZbin... Glad I watched... 😁
@drewkirkbride1583
@drewkirkbride1583 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a Bungard I once used, nice little desktop for prototyping. I don't miss the extraction via a vacuum cleaner! Nice work here. This offers a great way to access PCB fabrication without the cost of photo mechanical processing.
@dkjb5756
@dkjb5756 Жыл бұрын
Foreigners are amazing, they develop so many machines I have never seen any such machines get manufactured in my country 😭
@R_802
@R_802 Жыл бұрын
Where are you from?
@bi5048
@bi5048 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know nothing about PCB prototyping but looking at this video is very satisfying
@FaizanAli-mo3dl
@FaizanAli-mo3dl 2 жыл бұрын
Outclassed background music....😍😍
@zzz13zzz17
@zzz13zzz17 6 жыл бұрын
The main problem - non flat surface of board, bended material. Conical mill will produce different cut diameter on different parts of surface. Probably maximum width x height - 6 x 9 cm.
@paukenschlag5461
@paukenschlag5461 6 жыл бұрын
KV Popenko you need to make height map. Look up candle.
@merlin7766
@merlin7766 Жыл бұрын
KV, I stick my PCB down to a sacrificial base that screw down to the machine bed. I use very thin double sided tape from Amazon. This keeps the whole copper board flat and then the electrical probing performs a contour map of the surface and the isolation routing is spot on. Using a this flat bladed screw driver and gradual bending force will prise the board from the base, Acetone will clean up both the back side of the PCB and the base as well.
@BlackHornetTactical
@BlackHornetTactical 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard the music I clicked paused and left this comment. Not everything needs music this is one of those things.
@dang7748
@dang7748 5 жыл бұрын
Jose Garcia same
@Andrea-ck2po
@Andrea-ck2po 5 жыл бұрын
How do we know that is not a giant stick and a giant tooth brush?
@unh0ly362
@unh0ly362 4 жыл бұрын
The song goes oioioioioioioioiOioiioioi
@merlin7766
@merlin7766 Жыл бұрын
To answer some of the questions below. Sonia have had this machine for over a year now. It is an amazing price of kit and extremely well made. Isolation milling can take e quite some time and as does the probing of the PCB surface prior to milling. This machine can mill a small PCB in about 3 hours if you include the probe and mill operation. Also make sure that you have the correct isolation routing bits for the job. Also weave a small syringe of mineral oil to cot the PCB surface with prior to milling, it makes a big difference to the quality of the cut. With respect to milling the outside profile of the PCB, if the PCB is square or rectangular then far better to use a PCB Guillotine to cut the board. So for a slightly higher volume of birds, day 10 or more, I use this machine to drill all the holes in Microtrak pre-sensitised PCB board and then expose and etch in the usual way. This machine is very precise and accurate however use as intended for very small prototype runs and either use conventional etching or JLCPCB in China for more than say 20 boards. This is an outstanding machine for its intended purpose. I am about to test this out to do some M2 thread milling in aluminium and sure it will be fine.
@nithinshibu2202
@nithinshibu2202 4 жыл бұрын
THAT IS THE REASON WHY I RESPECT SCIENCE
@nithinshibu2202
@nithinshibu2202 4 жыл бұрын
@@hansdietrich83 a student can't become engineer until he learns something related to science . HOPE YOU GOT IT 😁👍🏽
@charnoldbronsonegger53
@charnoldbronsonegger53 6 жыл бұрын
I love to see precision machinery at work!
@robertw1871
@robertw1871 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should work on ink-jetting the copper layer onto fiberglass instead of trying to CNC material off the board, CNC has been done thousands of times by others and has yet to really work. If you could work out the chemistry of depositing metal you’d have a winner that could be done with a $25 ink jet print head and have 100 times the resolution of CNC.
@ut9xusra1
@ut9xusra1 6 жыл бұрын
Just an addition to your idea , just like through hole plating if you could come up with a method which inkjet prints something which could later be copper plated .......
@MiguelRodriguez2010
@MiguelRodriguez2010 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t with the eltectro-reggae music 😂
@guyjordan8201
@guyjordan8201 2 жыл бұрын
Very slow production rate, etching makes finer trace and space, and you often cannot leave so much unconnected conductive material. Cool capability though.
@JamesReedy
@JamesReedy 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it's about rapid prototyping man. We have one in our lab (not this companies) its made by LPKF they are exceptionally capable. Even have plate thru hole capability, it's not done the way shown here tho. Sometimes sending out for PCB fabrication also means exposing what you're working on...
@СергейБриль-м2й
@СергейБриль-м2й 5 жыл бұрын
сколько раз уже пересматриваю. Это изумительно!!!!
@Bogdan_Martun
@Bogdan_Martun 4 жыл бұрын
Так а что это за деталь?
@themarsoff
@themarsoff 6 жыл бұрын
Что бы специалисты в комментариях не говорили, а смотреть за процессом одно удовольствие (музыку бы ещё убрать)
@elsinormerkaba2128
@elsinormerkaba2128 6 жыл бұрын
Ставьте видео на скорость х2 и проблема музыки отпадет
@userBentayga
@userBentayga 6 жыл бұрын
Музыка оскомину набила! Северный проект под неё пургу гонит)) Честно говоря здесь она более уместна)), но можно и без неё, удовольствия от этого меньше не станет!
@Ponytamin
@Ponytamin 6 жыл бұрын
Ойёйёйёйёй! Оёйёйёйёйй! ЁЙ-ЁЙ-ЁЙ!
@Прогулкивокругсвета-ф2ю
@Прогулкивокругсвета-ф2ю 6 жыл бұрын
@@Ponytamin о спасибо за текст песни
@SatyabratSwain1
@SatyabratSwain1 3 жыл бұрын
*This is very Powerful video and not even let me skip for 10 seconds. Thank you.*
@MohammadFarhan-mo6mo
@MohammadFarhan-mo6mo 2 жыл бұрын
really amazing how much human capabilities have advanced! 😲
@dkjb5756
@dkjb5756 Жыл бұрын
Especially foreigners, they are one who are building it
@MohammadFarhan-mo6mo
@MohammadFarhan-mo6mo Жыл бұрын
@@dkjb5756 yes of course. By exploiting the asian and african countries.
@noa.sendlhofer
@noa.sendlhofer 5 жыл бұрын
Omg you really got that fine tuning on point!
@peterrefi5121
@peterrefi5121 5 жыл бұрын
It is beautiful... From practical point of view. It would ve amazing if you can show, how the components are soldered onto it. I mean the melted tin just flow everywhere as there is no protective layer on that board. Even if using paste and heat gun
@merlin7766
@merlin7766 Жыл бұрын
Peter, after the isolation and drilling process you clean the board and apply solder resist. One dry you use the an engraving bit and this mills through the solder resist to expose the component pads only. The rest of the board is protected by the resist. Hopefully this makes sense.
@DimarisPlays
@DimarisPlays 4 жыл бұрын
I watched the entire thing without knowing what the hell is this.
@kanabiswys
@kanabiswys 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@win7androidmoviebymohdsidd33
@win7androidmoviebymohdsidd33 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@DavidPennable
@DavidPennable 3 жыл бұрын
Some kind of USB device, like thumb drive or dongle.
@ЕвгенийВладимирович-о9ю
@ЕвгенийВладимирович-о9ю 6 жыл бұрын
От музыки хочется выбросится в окно. А станок супер конечно
@ЕвгенийВладимирович-о9ю
@ЕвгенийВладимирович-о9ю 6 жыл бұрын
но за 2 штуки баксов спасибо, я дальше утюжком поработаю)
@mikhaelkondrashkin
@mikhaelkondrashkin 6 жыл бұрын
@@ЕвгенийВладимирович-о9ю 2000 евро, но зато он все умеет делать
@aritradhabal
@aritradhabal 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so so satisfying
@Little_Cactus_
@Little_Cactus_ 3 жыл бұрын
This is satisfying to watch.
@howardpower
@howardpower 5 жыл бұрын
Precision at its finest.
@DavidPennable
@DavidPennable 3 жыл бұрын
Your picture is the god damn eyelash I was thumbing off my phone for no reason. Well played.
@เซิ่นแซ่จิ๋นเซยซึเดะ
@เซิ่นแซ่จิ๋นเซยซึเดะ 3 жыл бұрын
ไฟพุ่ง กับพิมพ์เขียวเส้น มันเรียนรู้ไม่เหมือนกัน แต่ได้เหมือนกัน เหมือน เคเอฟซี กับ ตู้ทอดไก่ คนละสูตร เครื่องเทศ เซิ่น เอามาลองทำเอง อร่อยมาก หอม จมูก เหมือนกิน เลย กับกินเข้าๆไป กินเหมือนกันเลย เหมือนที่ว่า ใช้ทองแดง กับน้ำเจล พริบเดียว 🤣🌙☀️
@francisbsb
@francisbsb 3 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with the algorithm behind this software.
@zouna007
@zouna007 4 жыл бұрын
The music makes me very uncomfortable hahaha. But i like how clean the traces ar.
@ChrizRockster
@ChrizRockster 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing repeatable accuracy / tolerences for what is a reasonably priced CNC.
@skyrctechie
@skyrctechie 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so satisfying for all those who have tried to make this type milling machine and got failed. 😅
@vishalk4647
@vishalk4647 3 жыл бұрын
Music name is fiction by Amy Reynolds. Your welcome!
@TheChemistDIY
@TheChemistDIY 5 жыл бұрын
I have to say this is one awesome machine, but as a hobbyist the $3,300 price tag is out of my reach. I Cant wait till it gets more affordable.
@yshouldicar3
@yshouldicar3 5 жыл бұрын
@KOMODOR I have a 3020 and while I have made good PCBs from it, it's no where near the quality of this thing. For example, the runout of the spindle is 0.1mm so good luck getting those same traces as in the video
@viKrecords1000
@viKrecords1000 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing precision!!! And also great vlog technique.
@Radik183
@Radik183 6 жыл бұрын
Впервые вижу геганскую спичку!ленейку и щётку!
5 жыл бұрын
Muy bien hecho. Saludos desde El Salvador.
@johndude70
@johndude70 5 жыл бұрын
really impressive and clean fine milling there!, love how the toothbrush looks enormous. Would like to hear the sound of the machine though.
@merlin7766
@merlin7766 Жыл бұрын
Hi John, it is not too noisy, you can work in a room at the same time. The PCB probe of the copper clad board takes up to 40 minutes and then you can load the nc code to start milling. It gets noisy once you start to mill the board edges. During the isolation routing I like to keep an eye on things every 10 minutes to add a few drops of mineral oil to the copper surface as this greatly improves the cut and final finish.
@bernardberben4852
@bernardberben4852 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know what I'm watching but its satisfying
@Akoyo_
@Akoyo_ 4 жыл бұрын
Me: in class KZbin : RECOMMENDS THIS RANDOM video
@roggeraifan9884
@roggeraifan9884 6 жыл бұрын
Excelente. Necesito una así con esa perfección pero que sea capas de trabajar en metates duros no se si me podrías dar una sugerencia sobre alguna maquina así o si esta es capas de hacerlo de antemano agradezco tu respuesta
@АвовНитуп
@АвовНитуп 6 жыл бұрын
за огромные бабки - предлагается абсолютно ненужный аппарат.. но подано красиво :))) Хотя конечно же за такие деньги можно два вагона плат заказать в китае...
@TheMirclub
@TheMirclub 6 жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте, а скока просят?
@АвовНитуп
@АвовНитуп 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheMirclub _Здравствуйте, а скока просят?_ дык там же ссылки.. в среднем 2.2 тыщи евро...
@TheMirclub
@TheMirclub 6 жыл бұрын
@@АвовНитуп за 2000евро мне не надо, спасибо..
@TheMirclub
@TheMirclub 6 жыл бұрын
@@АвовНитуп я думаю самому сделать можно за 200-300долларов..тока смысл?? Дешевле заказать качествннные платы, уже с распайкой смд
@АвовНитуп
@АвовНитуп 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheMirclub _Дешевле заказать качествннные платы, уже с распайкой смд_ Вы видимо невнимательно прочли моё сообщение.. там же написано ровно тоже самое..: prnt.sc/lsxfyn
@richardphatthenguyen195
@richardphatthenguyen195 5 жыл бұрын
The bed or platform must be really flat in order to be able to achieve this? We have our Roland MDX 40A and it could not be able to achieve full milled trace because of the angled plate, resulting of intact copper area.
@paweljasiek
@paweljasiek 4 жыл бұрын
but.... why? this is lengthy, expensive, and the odds of solder spilling onto copper and causing a short are way too high!
@jakeengland1430
@jakeengland1430 4 жыл бұрын
1 reason an 1 reason only. In house testing without the delay of shipping. If a prototype exits its design phase you can get a working prototype by the end of the day
@paweljasiek
@paweljasiek 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakeengland1430 you can etch circuitboards at home though? like, all you need is a run of the mill printer, a clothes iron, some acetone, ferric chloride ane a solder mask. You can have a working prototype in less than 20 minutes, assuming you don't have specialised equipment.
@jakeengland1430
@jakeengland1430 4 жыл бұрын
@@paweljasiek i from personal experience will never touch acetone again it such a pain to work with and dangerous too its also not as repeatable you can also get much higher resolution on mills yeah for hobbyists go down your route cause its cheaper and easier bt for professionals mills are the way to go.
@vd9424
@vd9424 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakeengland1430 You can keep the traces a little thicker in the proto and then thin them down later according to the fab house's capability. I'm assuming these are logic level signals and not power. Regardless, if you really are on the clock, etching is way faster. This is more of a luxury to be honest.
@VinnyGjokaj
@VinnyGjokaj 4 жыл бұрын
Well a few reasons when compared to a small “Hack” photolithography set up. 1) with a standard at home inkjet printer you will not get down to 100 micron trace widths and spacing. The mask an at home printer does simply cannot produce a fine features like that. When you get that small you eventually start seeing the individual droplets of the print head and the density of the droplets is not high enough. You will etch those lines off. 2) depending on the project RF or Signal lines, the precision of the line widths are very important and you will not be able to do that accurately at home with a hack set up. Over etching is a huge huge problem when the features become small. 50 micron (which is a a very small amount of over etching. Would have to be a 1/4 oz copper) could be a huge percentage of your trace widths. 3) DIY or small operations chemical waste and chemical training is a huge aspect. For professional businesses that are small scale, chemical training and waste are very costly. You’re working with harsh chemicals that need to be disposed off properly. You should also really be utilizing a fume hood. 4) the mill also can drill VIAs and cut out the board to desired shape in one step. You will have to manually do that with photolithography which will never look as good. While a hack photolithography set up is nice and cheap, eventually it will all come to be the same price. Remember etchant doesn’t last forever and has to be replaced, solvents to clean the board need to be bought, other tools are needed for VIAs, and ink for the printer. Also time is money, this will be faster then etching at the hobbiest level. I don’t think you’d be making boards large enough where this would be to slow for that. As a hobbiest I understand this would be a luxury but would be really amazing to have it! This thing looked like a beast!
@emremutlu44
@emremutlu44 6 жыл бұрын
You have made it, a 100pin TQFP... *Congrats!!!*
@bato1903
@bato1903 6 жыл бұрын
1. Не верные обороты резца. 2. Не верна скорость подачи. 3. Такой ровный текстолит не найти в моей стране. 4. Выбирать остальную медь запаришься, травление лучше (по скрости). 5. Ну и скорость соответственно, одну плату повесишься ждать. Никто не спорит за качество и красоту, но смысла в этом мало, не целесобразно. Говорю как чпушник и радиоинженер.
@IhorKochet
@IhorKochet 6 жыл бұрын
Какую рекомендуете скорость и подачу ?
@bato1903
@bato1903 6 жыл бұрын
@@IhorKochet подачу медленее, скорость быстрее. Ибо если пылесос тупнет, пылью порвет все дорожки.
@imiafamily
@imiafamily 6 жыл бұрын
@@bato1903 на таких оборотах, с такой нагрузкой, перегреет и сломает кончик - там не 24 000об/мин)) угловая скорость реза на диаметре 0,1 мм, деббил!))- радиогубитель)) ты чпу только на картинке видел, по всей видимости?) Понаберут клоунов по объявлению..)
@klmbss
@klmbss 6 жыл бұрын
Я уже давно об этом написал. Что это бесполезный кусок дерьма для изготовления плат. Но находятся особо тугие люди которые с этим спорят.
@bato1903
@bato1903 6 жыл бұрын
@@imiafamily Так ты сам признался что ты клоун. Обороты выбираются из состава резца и материала. То что идет по стали, вязнет на люме. Клоуна кусок.
@--taku9060
@--taku9060 3 жыл бұрын
0.1mm traces? 0.13 - 0.15mm... The contact pitch of TQFP100 is 0.5mm IC!? Contact pad width 0.3mm. and Lead width 0.22mm. Is the distance between the PCB line of the IC about 0.1 mm?
@thomasdavis9890
@thomasdavis9890 3 жыл бұрын
This is so satisfying 😌
@B33t_R007
@B33t_R007 2 жыл бұрын
now i want this CNC machine 🤤 looks gorgeous
@julioda5914
@julioda5914 6 жыл бұрын
Finally I know the secret about the linking of the two PCB layers
@jeanicezinho
@jeanicezinho Жыл бұрын
this is pure art! congratulations!
@ellf326
@ellf326 6 жыл бұрын
Фреза конечно суперская, да и повторяемость у станка офигенная, НО паять потом такую плату сущее проклятие( сам фрезирую пилотные платы на собственно ручной построенном и собранном станке китайским спиральным гравером с пяткой 0.2 паяю потом под микроскопом и все равно при пайке переодически под каким нибудь контактом повиснет сопля на оставшуюся маску). Сразу скажу паяльник это мой хлеб ибо по образованию монтажник РЭА и работаю в этой сфере с 2001 года.
@Vootshi
@Vootshi 6 жыл бұрын
Насколько сильно имеет смысл устанавливать медные цилиндры в отверстия? С такими высокими клепками маска потом ляжет неравномерно. Как делаете вы?
@ellf326
@ellf326 6 жыл бұрын
@@Vootshi ну учитывая что у меня платы пилотные я вобще просто по старинке припаиваю переходы, а уже в заказанных платах просто ставлю металлизацию. Да и судя по видео маска этим платам не светит 😁.
@sergeyzhilin9529
@sergeyzhilin9529 6 жыл бұрын
Аналогичная ситуация, причем не всегда эту соплю и видно. Выход только убирать весь полигон но придется разводить земли... 2 раза фрезеровал платы, сейчас просто по несколько раз из Китая заказываю, так проще....
@Vik_ru
@Vik_ru 6 жыл бұрын
Андрей! А что за гравёры вы используете для плат, как их искать? Взял как-то на али целый наборчик спиральных гравёров, а они вообще не работают... видимо не для плат предназначены (?)
@ellf326
@ellf326 6 жыл бұрын
@@Vik_ru охх эти китайцы - такие китайцы, граверы беру у нас в Украине, интернет магазин родом из Белой Церкви будет интересно отпишу название. Гравер брал с пятаком 0.2 , угол 40 градусов, по цене порядка 5ти долларов за единицу. Работает вполне сносно , по вращению биений не видно да и медь снимает без ежей при встречной подаче. По параметрам задаю скорость врезания 50 мм в минуту , подача 450 мм в минуту. Заглубление от 0.04 до 0.07 ( в зависимости от текстолита) и да чуть не забыл - автоуровень не использую, слишком неоднозначно сканируется кривизна, просто сровнял жертвенный стол. Дорожки 0.25 с зазором 0.2 проходит вполне прилично - перерезанных нет. Но блин паять это то ещё приключение - после каждой детали все дорожки проверяю на замыкание на маску.
@dmitrym3757
@dmitrym3757 10 ай бұрын
This music is fricking awesome, please do more!
@digbick69420
@digbick69420 5 жыл бұрын
It's giving me eyegasm
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 6 жыл бұрын
What ya planning to mount under a TQFP100? That must be the infamous Schrödinger's CAT438 IC or you got the ATmega2560-stiletto-'weg'-pin-edition.
@shamaYahu8635
@shamaYahu8635 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: it's actually a big toothbrush and measuring ruler
@ChrisWhiteTech
@ChrisWhiteTech 5 жыл бұрын
Trully impressive and strangely satisfying to wach!
@WrexShepard
@WrexShepard 5 жыл бұрын
That music is crazy with the comedic spring sound. "Boi-oi-oi-oing".
@ASHOKKUMAR-xd5gu
@ASHOKKUMAR-xd5gu 6 жыл бұрын
I am very happy when I compare this to my method of PCB making . One useful information in this video that is revit used to connect the top layer and bottom layer
@sombhatta
@sombhatta 3 жыл бұрын
Video: excellent. Music: unnecessary.
@kawai_acustic
@kawai_acustic 3 жыл бұрын
You can low it down and that's all.
@audiokees4045
@audiokees4045 3 жыл бұрын
I hear everywhere for the need of a very high spindle speed of 30.000 to even 100.000 rpm, what I have see here is just 11.000 rpm and a clean cutting, what is the reason? maybe vibrations of spindel of other systems who ragged the edges?
@Romerco77
@Romerco77 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice and stuff, but while the cnc machine is priced right, the consumibles are way way too expensive
@utkrishtkverma
@utkrishtkverma 4 жыл бұрын
So satisfying to watch...😍
@deepakk1347
@deepakk1347 2 жыл бұрын
BGM Seems like we are signaling an alien Specially the Yo oooo eee part
@romanisaikin6623
@romanisaikin6623 6 жыл бұрын
Already asked this question: why, WHY do you leave those tiny traces in between the pins? It will be very hard to assemble this board without shorts.
@CNCEVOLUTION
@CNCEVOLUTION 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of questions and no answers.
@WongPruwatan
@WongPruwatan 5 жыл бұрын
videonya bagus banget proses pembuatan PCB
@AbeDillon
@AbeDillon 4 жыл бұрын
Came because of the PCB milling. Stayed because of the Reggie Dubstep. Oyyyoyoyoyoy!
@howtodoit5466
@howtodoit5466 3 жыл бұрын
A compatible music as well!! So satisfying🙂
@Graham_Wideman
@Graham_Wideman 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good luck soldering that QFP Atmega with flood copper in between the pads instead of solder mask, and that microscopic package in the middle. These PCB milling machines make for great videos, and there is a role to play if you absolutely have to have a board same day. But otherwise -- pain and heartbreak, IMO. Even the lands between the SMD R and C pads with only 0.1 mm clearance -- that's just trouble.
@MrTimeDigger
@MrTimeDigger 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right but, I believe this a show-off work and I do not think that it is a big deal to remove such flood copper regions.
@faultyinterface
@faultyinterface 2 жыл бұрын
For different, larger parts, I see something like this being very useful. As per the tiny parts in this video, I am inclined to agree with you. The only way I see someone realistically soldering anything that small without solder mask is with a VERY carefully set up solder paste stencil and reflow station.
@vlsext
@vlsext 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that after that video this question will be gone. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXbGpaiJibFqY9k
@gregwoolley
@gregwoolley 2 жыл бұрын
There are limits to just about everything in life, within the limits of what CNC milling of PCB can do, there can be significant benefits?
@gorak9000
@gorak9000 Жыл бұрын
My dude, use more flux - aka learn to solder betterer
@alexa.davronov1537
@alexa.davronov1537 3 жыл бұрын
Не плохая идея. Можно Производить слои меди+пластик и склеивать их делая многоуровневые платы.
@ArnaudMEURET
@ArnaudMEURET 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the gigantic match and toothbrush!?
@krislted3891
@krislted3891 2 жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful, and this bright. Awesome. Machine is also fine
@looy1234
@looy1234 6 жыл бұрын
And now... if you will try to solder a chip to this board, you will get to know the seventh level of hell :P
@SteinErikDahle
@SteinErikDahle 6 жыл бұрын
Why? Soldering a board like this is quite easy, even for a beginner. There's lots of great tutorials on how to solder a board like this here on KZbin.
@looy1234
@looy1234 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever actually hand-soldered a chip with 0.1mm spacing between pads? First-off it is not easy, second - it is almost impossible to do with simple home soldering irons. Third - this board doesn't have solder mask Fourth - this board has very small spacing between traces. Combine that with third - and you get a lot of unwanted bridges between traces - which you will have to clean off - welcome to hell. Even if you will solder every single trace and every single pad and clean all the bridges- you still have to pray that you do not have any bridges underneath the chips. Because if you do - you will know that only once the board starts and doesn't work for unknown reason. Everything looks nice on youtube video, but try it out yourself to see.
@looy1234
@looy1234 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever, I have soldered more than enough chips by myself, believe in what you want.
@looy1234
@looy1234 6 жыл бұрын
@@marc_frank don't tell the god what he can and cannot do :P
@looy1234
@looy1234 6 жыл бұрын
​@@marc_frank and when and where did he ever told that he did not ever create anything like hell or is going to create or allow it to be created? Don't be too full of yourself and put words in the mouth of the God that he never spoke. There is hell on earth, and there is hell besides earth.
@alexcsouza
@alexcsouza 4 жыл бұрын
Some footage remind me satisfying machines videos... pretty nice and satisfying.
@jamesjohnson5700
@jamesjohnson5700 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you start doing this?Is it on a cad or cnc either way I did both in highschool but it's been a while & then did you transferred it to this software to car out the blueprint on the copper pcb?
@evgenk8391
@evgenk8391 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of short circuts after soldering this kind of PCB will be appeared. It will looks as nightmare to fix it.
@yvesinformel221
@yvesinformel221 6 жыл бұрын
This is only to show you what can be done, I don't think people will actually design PCB with traces so close
@gartheligon140
@gartheligon140 6 жыл бұрын
Not repairable get a next one.
@Francirius
@Francirius 6 жыл бұрын
With a proper solder mask and solder paste and a good oven it can be done...i dont see why not
6 жыл бұрын
High tech CNC with some really old school vias :D but, with all that copper between the rails... I want to see it soldered. I feel there will be a slight inconvenience...
@mohammedsharaff2249
@mohammedsharaff2249 4 жыл бұрын
That was so satisfying to watch!
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