Double layer PCB prototyping 0.1 mm traces/spaces

[@marcus_w0]

From my own experience i know how hard it is, to build a machine capable of doing this. You guys did absolutely fantastic. The leveling and the balance of the tools is impressive.

[@GruVital]

Тут интересен сам процесс изготовления плат, а не заказ заводских плат. Автор красава, поддерживаю твоё хобби.👍🏻

[@jayc2469]

It's probably been said, but from an Engineering perspective, this is better than porn

[@seemslegit6203]

Indeed

[@Enes-wj5xq]

Porn damages your brain cells, scientifically proved

[@omegab4k4]

@@Enes-wj5xq AND?

[@stanley8006]

@@Enes-wj5xq ok, what about sexual art that's been a part of human culture since post cave-man times? Wooden woman sculptures & that & beyond

[@sankang9425]

@@Enes-wj5xq LOL breathing damages your brain cells too. This one is also scientifically proven

[@leonardofelipesilva2809]

Imagine drawing some fractals in tiny pieces of metal like this, it would make nice souvenirs

[@Bastel_Boys]

Where the hell do you get such a huge toothbrush?!

[@jibjibam]

It bel8bged to Gulliver

[@arnavrawat9864]

From any regular department store

[@dawid_1021]

Title literally: 0.1 mm traces

[@Eighteen19]

🤣🤣🤣

[@_adamalfath]

this is the best pcb cnc milling machines I ever see, yet the price is not quite meet the student/hobbyist budget :D

[@IndianTelephone]

I like how there was a random "here's a match for scale" appearance and I was thinking, whata giant match, lok

[@SysDaemon]

This would be a great machine for RF engineers - they could tinker with circuit layouts without the wait for regular PCB turnaround times - most of their stuff is 2-sided at the most!

[@HairyTheCandyMan]

"Yo Yo, yo Yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo Yooyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo Bing bing bing YOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYO''

[@matthewmcclain1316]

Bow dow bow bow boy yoy oy

[@wrench_in]

Bow Bow bow bowbowbow bowbowbowbow bowbowbowbowbow bowbowbowbowbowbow bowbowbowbowbowbowbow

[@daviddrake6744]

Pppp

[@flowerfullgirl_]

DELAY LAMA LOL

[@Seba_World]

2021 Mat, Poland here: Ojojojojjjj , bzyyyy 🎹🇵🇱

[@АндрейСлавянин-о6б]

God, I can't believe my eyes. It's incredible, but I know it's possible. Just a fairy tale for a perfectionist.

[@PhdHung]

Magic, it's magic, I can't take my eyes off the screen.

[@EricTViking]

It'd be good to occasionally see it a bit more zoomed out so we can see the whole machine 👍

[@Ponytamin]

Если этот фрезер попутно играет эту музыку - не важно, сколько он стоит.

[@merlin7766]

To answer some of the questions below. Sonia have had this machine for over a year now. It is an amazing price of kit and extremely well made. Isolation milling can take e quite some time and as does the probing of the PCB surface prior to milling. This machine can mill a small PCB in about 3 hours if you include the probe and mill operation. Also make sure that you have the correct isolation routing bits for the job. Also weave a small syringe of mineral oil to cot the PCB surface with prior to milling, it makes a big difference to the quality of the cut. With respect to milling the outside profile of the PCB, if the PCB is square or rectangular then far better to use a PCB Guillotine to cut the board. So for a slightly higher volume of birds, day 10 or more, I use this machine to drill all the holes in Microtrak pre-sensitised PCB board and then expose and etch in the usual way. This machine is very precise and accurate however use as intended for very small prototype runs and either use conventional etching or JLCPCB in China for more than say 20 boards. This is an outstanding machine for its intended purpose. I am about to test this out to do some M2 thread milling in aluminium and sure it will be fine.

[@ProjectDetonado]

Well, i don't know what this is, but it was very satisfying to watch.

[@ferdianwahyu6952]

Its your hardware robot XD

[@attherate123]

I think, this was a board of pendrive

[@muhammadali.8170]

If this isn't the most satisfying video, idk what is

[@ESTEBANTMAN]

everything is fun until you start soldering

[@georgejames3868]

What do you mean?

[@rongarza9488]

@Esteban Rodríquez That's right, Esteban, nobody "loves" to solder, they lie if they say they do. I finally learned to live with it. For me, painting the joint with liquid flux first made my life a whole lot easier. I also paint the soldering iron tip with flux before I turn it on.

[@einsteinx2]

@Ron Garza not sure if you’re joking or not, but there are certainly people that enjoy soldering...I know because I’m one of them. And no I’m not lying haha

[@MrMaxtomi1]

@@rongarza9488I love solder...

[@VegaMaker]

He will do soldering after coating and go engraving on soldering spots. So, it's extremely easy and still fun.

[@drewkirkbride1583]

Reminds me of a Bungard I once used, nice little desktop for prototyping. I don't miss the extraction via a vacuum cleaner! Nice work here. This offers a great way to access PCB fabrication without the cost of photo mechanical processing.

[@thexavier666]

Where do i buy that giant toothbrush from?

[@isaacakyigit159]

😂😂😂

[@SuperDominicS]

Google: Here are some results for "big toothbrushs" *shows a slightly larger toothbrush* Bing:

[@dkjb5756]

Foreigners are amazing, they develop so many machines I have never seen any such machines get manufactured in my country 😭

[@R_802]

Where are you from?

[@lucasfritz2786]

This is very satisfying

[@josegabrielsantos9816]

Lo mejor en cnc pcb .,precision, calidad y elegancia el arte de elaboar circuito impreso ...te estoy esperndo casi dos años pero ya, con Dios mediantes ..te tengo en este mes.

[@ВиталийСлотин]

Когда в кадре появилась голова зубной щётки.. я поржал откровенно!.. просто ни когда не зрил такого контраста!!)) Клёвая работа! ЗашибисьН!!

[@euvitmultiserviciosevgenyp7019]

А как тебе молоток!

[@bi5048]

I don’t know nothing about PCB prototyping but looking at this video is very satisfying

[@hmmtalktome]

I don't know what I am watching but I love it

[@trynalive24]

Same :)

[@MiguelRodriguez2010]

I can’t with the eltectro-reggae music 😂

[@peterrefi5121]

It is beautiful... From practical point of view. It would ve amazing if you can show, how the components are soldered onto it. I mean the melted tin just flow everywhere as there is no protective layer on that board. Even if using paste and heat gun

[@merlin7766]

Peter, after the isolation and drilling process you clean the board and apply solder resist. One dry you use the an engraving bit and this mills through the solder resist to expose the component pads only. The rest of the board is protected by the resist. Hopefully this makes sense.

[@zzz13zzz17]

The main problem - non flat surface of board, bended material. Conical mill will produce different cut diameter on different parts of surface. Probably maximum width x height - 6 x 9 cm.

[@paukenschlag5461]

KV Popenko you need to make height map. Look up candle.

[@merlin7766]

KV, I stick my PCB down to a sacrificial base that screw down to the machine bed. I use very thin double sided tape from Amazon. This keeps the whole copper board flat and then the electrical probing performs a contour map of the surface and the isolation routing is spot on. Using a this flat bladed screw driver and gradual bending force will prise the board from the base, Acetone will clean up both the back side of the PCB and the base as well.

[@unh0ly362]

The song goes oioioioioioioioiOioiioioi

[@MILAN-ye5ns]

It is very relaxing to watch the video without music :)

[@ЕвгенийВладимирович-о9ю]

От музыки хочется выбросится в окно. А станок супер конечно

[@ЕвгенийВладимирович-о9ю]

но за 2 штуки баксов спасибо, я дальше утюжком поработаю)

[@mikhaelkondrashkin]

@@ЕвгенийВладимирович-о9ю 2000 евро, но зато он все умеет делать

[@Akoyo_]

Me: in class KZbin : RECOMMENDS THIS RANDOM video

[@robertw1871]

You guys should work on ink-jetting the copper layer onto fiberglass instead of trying to CNC material off the board, CNC has been done thousands of times by others and has yet to really work. If you could work out the chemistry of depositing metal you’d have a winner that could be done with a $25 ink jet print head and have 100 times the resolution of CNC.

[@ut9xusra1]

Just an addition to your idea , just like through hole plating if you could come up with a method which inkjet prints something which could later be copper plated .......

[@themarsoff]

Что бы специалисты в комментариях не говорили, а смотреть за процессом одно удовольствие (музыку бы ещё убрать)

[@elsinormerkaba2128]

Ставьте видео на скорость х2 и проблема музыки отпадет

[@userBentayga]

Музыка оскомину набила! Северный проект под неё пургу гонит)) Честно говоря здесь она более уместна)), но можно и без неё, удовольствия от этого меньше не станет!

[@Ponytamin]

Ойёйёйёйёй! Оёйёйёйёйй! ЁЙ-ЁЙ-ЁЙ!

[@Прогулкивокругсвета-ф2ю]

@@Ponytamin о спасибо за текст песни

[@เซิ่นแซ่จิ๋นเซยซึเดะ]

ไฟพุ่ง กับพิมพ์เขียวเส้น มันเรียนรู้ไม่เหมือนกัน แต่ได้เหมือนกัน เหมือน เคเอฟซี กับ ตู้ทอดไก่ คนละสูตร เครื่องเทศ เซิ่น เอามาลองทำเอง อร่อยมาก หอม จมูก เหมือนกิน เลย กับกินเข้าๆไป กินเหมือนกันเลย เหมือนที่ว่า ใช้ทองแดง กับน้ำเจล พริบเดียว 🤣🌙☀️

[@jpgmoreno]

Dude, it's a pleasure to watch your videos

[@TheChemistDIY]

I have to say this is one awesome machine, but as a hobbyist the $3,300 price tag is out of my reach. I Cant wait till it gets more affordable.

[@yshouldicar3]

@KOMODOR I have a 3020 and while I have made good PCBs from it, it's no where near the quality of this thing. For example, the runout of the spindle is 0.1mm so good luck getting those same traces as in the video

[@BlackHornetTactical]

As soon as I heard the music I clicked paused and left this comment. Not everything needs music this is one of those things.

[@dang7748]

Jose Garcia same

[@vishalk4647]

Music name is fiction by Amy Reynolds. Your welcome!

[@ChrizRockster]

Amazing repeatable accuracy / tolerences for what is a reasonably priced CNC.

[@nithinshibu2202]

THAT IS THE REASON WHY I RESPECT SCIENCE

[@nithinshibu2202]

@@hansdietrich83 a student can't become engineer until he learns something related to science . HOPE YOU GOT IT 😁👍🏽

[@serjinmachado90]

Dude... What an incredible recommendation from KZbin... Glad I watched... 😁

[@FaizanAli-mo3dl]

Outclassed background music....😍😍

[@DimarisPlays]

I watched the entire thing without knowing what the hell is this.

[@kanabiswys]

Me too

[@win7androidmoviebymohdsidd33]

Me too

[@DavidPennable]

Some kind of USB device, like thumb drive or dongle.

[@syarifsyafudin5807]

Nobody: The music: *yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy*

[@disolheid]

ahahahahah

[@SatyabratSwain1]

*This is very Powerful video and not even let me skip for 10 seconds. Thank you.*

[@Radik183]

Впервые вижу геганскую спичку!ленейку и щётку!

[@Little_Cactus_]

This is satisfying to watch.

[@MohammadFarhan-mo6mo]

really amazing how much human capabilities have advanced! 😲

[@dkjb5756]

Especially foreigners, they are one who are building it

[@MohammadFarhan-mo6mo]

@@dkjb5756 yes of course. By exploiting the asian and african countries.

[@francisbsb]

I'm impressed with the algorithm behind this software.

[@jamesjohnson5700]

Where did you start doing this?Is it on a cad or cnc either way I did both in highschool but it's been a while & then did you transferred it to this software to car out the blueprint on the copper pcb?

[@aritradhabal]

This video is so so satisfying

[@AmeanAbdelfattah]

YT: Psst hey Me: Yeah YT: you still up? Me: Yeah ( 4:15 am ) YT: Wanna see something satisfying? Me: sure

[@zouna007]

The music makes me very uncomfortable hahaha. But i like how clean the traces ar.

[@shamaYahu8635]

Plot twist: it's actually a big toothbrush and measuring ruler

[@charnoldbronsonegger53]

I love to see precision machinery at work!

[@deepakk1347]

BGM Seems like we are signaling an alien Specially the Yo oooo eee part

[@СергейБриль-м2й]

сколько раз уже пересматриваю. Это изумительно!!!!

[@Bogdan_Martun]

Так а что это за деталь?

[@howardpower]

Precision at its finest.

[@DavidPennable]

Your picture is the god damn eyelash I was thumbing off my phone for no reason. Well played.

[@guyjordan8201]

Very slow production rate, etching makes finer trace and space, and you often cannot leave so much unconnected conductive material. Cool capability though.

[@JamesReedy]

I mean it's about rapid prototyping man. We have one in our lab (not this companies) its made by LPKF they are exceptionally capable. Even have plate thru hole capability, it's not done the way shown here tho. Sometimes sending out for PCB fabrication also means exposing what you're working on...

[@digbick69420]

It's giving me eyegasm

[@johndude70]

really impressive and clean fine milling there!, love how the toothbrush looks enormous. Would like to hear the sound of the machine though.

[@merlin7766]

Hi John, it is not too noisy, you can work in a room at the same time. The PCB probe of the copper clad board takes up to 40 minutes and then you can load the nc code to start milling. It gets noisy once you start to mill the board edges. During the isolation routing I like to keep an eye on things every 10 minutes to add a few drops of mineral oil to the copper surface as this greatly improves the cut and final finish.

[@WrexShepard]

That music is crazy with the comedic spring sound. "Boi-oi-oi-oing".

[@АнатолийВахрин-ш2н]

Good day!!!! Please tell me how many revolutions you use for the tool? How many revolutions per minute for contour cutting?

[@saranisntnice]

This video is so satisfying for all those who have tried to make this type milling machine and got failed. 😅

[@ASHOKKUMAR-xd5gu]

I am very happy when I compare this to my method of PCB making . One useful information in this video that is revit used to connect the top layer and bottom layer

[@looy1234]

And now... if you will try to solder a chip to this board, you will get to know the seventh level of hell :P

[@SteinErikDahle]

Why? Soldering a board like this is quite easy, even for a beginner. There's lots of great tutorials on how to solder a board like this here on KZbin.

[@looy1234]

Have you ever actually hand-soldered a chip with 0.1mm spacing between pads? First-off it is not easy, second - it is almost impossible to do with simple home soldering irons. Third - this board doesn't have solder mask Fourth - this board has very small spacing between traces. Combine that with third - and you get a lot of unwanted bridges between traces - which you will have to clean off - welcome to hell. Even if you will solder every single trace and every single pad and clean all the bridges- you still have to pray that you do not have any bridges underneath the chips. Because if you do - you will know that only once the board starts and doesn't work for unknown reason. Everything looks nice on youtube video, but try it out yourself to see.

[@looy1234]

Whatever, I have soldered more than enough chips by myself, believe in what you want.

[@looy1234]

@@marc_frank don't tell the god what he can and cannot do :P

[@looy1234]

​@@marc_frank and when and where did he ever told that he did not ever create anything like hell or is going to create or allow it to be created? Don't be too full of yourself and put words in the mouth of the God that he never spoke. There is hell on earth, and there is hell besides earth.

[@alvint4944]

Hi! Thanks for sharing! May I ask, what type of router bit are you using for this?

[@julioda5914]

Finally I know the secret about the linking of the two PCB layers

[@bernardberben4852]

I dont know what I'm watching but its satisfying

[@Andrea-ck2po]

How do we know that is not a giant stick and a giant tooth brush?

[@AboveEmAllProduction]

Everybody gangsta until you can create room temperature super conductor

[@tgmtf5963]

Gaaaay

[@elsinormerkaba2128]

Coming here again and again to listen the music at x2 speed😆

[@FGUNY]

Wow. It's so much better!

[@viKrecords1000]

Amazing precision!!! And also great vlog technique.

[@AbeDillon]

Came because of the PCB milling. Stayed because of the Reggie Dubstep. Oyyyoyoyoyoy!

[@--taku9060]

0.1mm traces? 0.13 - 0.15mm... The contact pitch of TQFP100 is 0.5mm IC!? Contact pad width 0.3mm. and Lead width 0.22mm. Is the distance between the PCB line of the IC about 0.1 mm?

[@sombhatta]

Video: excellent. Music: unnecessary.

[@kawai_acustic]

You can low it down and that's all.

[@АвовНитуп]

за огромные бабки - предлагается абсолютно ненужный аппарат.. но подано красиво :))) Хотя конечно же за такие деньги можно два вагона плат заказать в китае...

[@TheMirclub]

Здравствуйте, а скока просят?

[@АвовНитуп]

@@TheMirclub _Здравствуйте, а скока просят?_ дык там же ссылки.. в среднем 2.2 тыщи евро...

[@TheMirclub]

@@АвовНитуп за 2000евро мне не надо, спасибо..

[@TheMirclub]

@@АвовНитуп я думаю самому сделать можно за 200-300долларов..тока смысл?? Дешевле заказать качествннные платы, уже с распайкой смд

[@АвовНитуп]

@@TheMirclub _Дешевле заказать качествннные платы, уже с распайкой смд_ Вы видимо невнимательно прочли моё сообщение.. там же написано ровно тоже самое..: prnt.sc/lsxfyn

[@skeevybastid689]

Im lazy but someone needs to post this on reddit in the /oddlysatisfying category!

[@alexa.davronov1537]

Не плохая идея. Можно Производить слои меди+пластик и склеивать их делая многоуровневые платы.

[@ellf326]

Фреза конечно суперская, да и повторяемость у станка офигенная, НО паять потом такую плату сущее проклятие( сам фрезирую пилотные платы на собственно ручной построенном и собранном станке китайским спиральным гравером с пяткой 0.2 паяю потом под микроскопом и все равно при пайке переодически под каким нибудь контактом повиснет сопля на оставшуюся маску). Сразу скажу паяльник это мой хлеб ибо по образованию монтажник РЭА и работаю в этой сфере с 2001 года.

[@Vootshi]

Насколько сильно имеет смысл устанавливать медные цилиндры в отверстия? С такими высокими клепками маска потом ляжет неравномерно. Как делаете вы?

[@ellf326]

@@Vootshi ну учитывая что у меня платы пилотные я вобще просто по старинке припаиваю переходы, а уже в заказанных платах просто ставлю металлизацию. Да и судя по видео маска этим платам не светит 😁.

[@sergeyzhilin9529]

Аналогичная ситуация, причем не всегда эту соплю и видно. Выход только убирать весь полигон но придется разводить земли... 2 раза фрезеровал платы, сейчас просто по несколько раз из Китая заказываю, так проще....

[@Vik_ru]

Андрей! А что за гравёры вы используете для плат, как их искать? Взял как-то на али целый наборчик спиральных гравёров, а они вообще не работают... видимо не для плат предназначены (?)

[@ellf326]

@@Vik_ru охх эти китайцы - такие китайцы, граверы беру у нас в Украине, интернет магазин родом из Белой Церкви будет интересно отпишу название. Гравер брал с пятаком 0.2 , угол 40 градусов, по цене порядка 5ти долларов за единицу. Работает вполне сносно , по вращению биений не видно да и медь снимает без ежей при встречной подаче. По параметрам задаю скорость врезания 50 мм в минуту , подача 450 мм в минуту. Заглубление от 0.04 до 0.07 ( в зависимости от текстолита) и да чуть не забыл - автоуровень не использую, слишком неоднозначно сканируется кривизна, просто сровнял жертвенный стол. Дорожки 0.25 с зазором 0.2 проходит вполне прилично - перерезанных нет. Но блин паять это то ещё приключение - после каждой детали все дорожки проверяю на замыкание на маску.

[@dmitrym3757]

This music is fricking awesome, please do more!

[@perebraco]

Plot twist: it's not a tiny pcb, but giant objects around it

[@introprospector]

They show the person holding it. It's small.

[@perebraco]

@@introprospector you are either sarcastic, or I'm very sorry for you

[@introprospector]

@@perebraco are you saying it's fake?

[@introprospector]

Just look @11:40

[@perebraco]

@@introprospector I was joking, ofcourse I know it's a tiny pcb

[@angshudas5714]

The two brothers "Mythpat" bhai and "King Angshu" background music is hear I love both of them

Muy bien hecho. Saludos desde El Salvador.

[@noa.sendlhofer]

Omg you really got that fine tuning on point!

[@thomasdavis9890]

This is so satisfying 😌

[@richardphatthenguyen195]

The bed or platform must be really flat in order to be able to achieve this? We have our Roland MDX 40A and it could not be able to achieve full milled trace because of the angled plate, resulting of intact copper area.

[@doneldTrumpet]

Music: oyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo...

[@roggeraifan9884]

Excelente. Necesito una así con esa perfección pero que sea capas de trabajar en metates duros no se si me podrías dar una sugerencia sobre alguna maquina así o si esta es capas de hacerlo de antemano agradezco tu respuesta

[@Romerco77]

Very nice and stuff, but while the cnc machine is priced right, the consumibles are way way too expensive

[@super-etendard]

Looks better than laser cutting-sanding in terms of cost and speed.

[@BaronDePrime]

A delight for the eyes. You can enter a Meditative state. :)

[@howtodoit5466]

A compatible music as well!! So satisfying🙂

[@gustavocasanova4322]

Great music! It's fantastic!

[@eltioyoni]

Muy satisfactorio el vídeo, lastima la musica la caga en todo. Pero igual le puse mute y seguí viendo hasta el final. Me hubiera gustado saber para q sirve esa placa que inventaron

[@ArnaudMEURET]

Where did you buy the gigantic match and toothbrush!?

[@cripplingdepression213]

Kinda satisfying to watch ngl

[@nomusicrc]

This was satisfying but it would’ve been better without the music

[@ReggieVdz]

Just turn the volume off

[@nomusicrc]

Reggie Vdz I did but I would rather hear the work being performed

[@UpcycleElectronics]

What ya planning to mount under a TQFP100? That must be the infamous Schrödinger's CAT438 IC or you got the ATmega2560-stiletto-'weg'-pin-edition.