Double posi vs. duck // James Cherry, Lars and the internet

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

*** Please read *** - March 28th 2024 Over the last weeks I've been getting more and more private text messages regarding James Cherry - unfortunately in negative ways. I understand that me and James are seemingly the only riders, who are talking about double posi soft boot carving techniques on KZbin in English, which, if it is true, doesn't mean at all that nobody else can explain it or that we're doing it well!!! - The fact that James and I had the talk we recorded and uploaded to our channels means nothing but sharing a passion for the same thing. I am asking my subscribers to look at me as an entirely different entity than James instead of throwing me into one bucket together with his attitude and opinions. His video called "End Of Season Rant" upset quite a few people. And then some of you actually got to listen to the first version of it on his forum carversconnection. I did, too! And I was left speechless.... It revealed a hurt, angry, mean, self righteous ego that is incapable of applying the badly needed nuance that the internet has eliminated, which has created so much division on all ends on all topics. _ So I'd like to make very clear that whether I share some of James's opinions or not, I do not share or like his approach to this entire softboot carving content! In fact I think he's contributing to the division between snowboarders of different kinds/stances/styles by keeping the unnecessary elitism alive that some older hardboot carvers have shown here and there over the years. I understand that the hardboot/double posi community got simply kicked out of the game by the snowboarding industry starting about 25 years ago with the withdrawal of sponsor money and gear, and that that community may well be upset about that. Without freestyle entirely taking over we could have seen a much better development of gear that caters more to turning/carving. It was basically put on hold within the mainstream for a solid 15 to 20 years. And snowboarding could have done with that diversity all along... But let's just be happy that it's all coming back and we're now at a stage in this sport where we're seeing a much broader variety of styles and gear than 10 years ago. And it's getting better, season after season! So leave that anger behind everyone and go for a few turns, slide down a rail or pop a 5 off a cat track.... It's all snowboarding!

[@JasminKukic]

Nonsense. Anybody who actually watched your videos knows that you never even hinted at that. For me it is a joy to watch someone share his knowledge in an honest way and that is exactly why i love your and Cherrys Chanel. You focus on a specific type of riding and really clear on why and how. No need to be butthurt about anything James ever said. So you just do what you do. 🙏😎

[@alexaustin5568]

Just direct him to your brilliant collaboration with Malcolm Moore. I ride duck stance but always willing to learn,listen, experiment… Ignore the haters. You will sleep much better. Keep up the great work.

[@cherrycarves]

Controversy aside, the footage of us riding together looks awesome! (10:25 and 14:25) Thanks for the turns Lars, that's what it's all about. Let's do that again soon!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Next time with better conditions and me on the 2025 Pipeliner 187 wide.... Can't wait for the prototype that is on its way to my door! :-)

[@cherrycarves]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel 🏂

[@jerryb63]

Looks brilliant. Keep doing what you’re doing James @cherrycarves, you’re an artist taking your speciality to a super refined level and personally I liked the bossy teacher approach, keeps my attention 😬. Only one thing I’d say, bear in mind that some of us have to fly to the snow so while I have a quiver I can only take two at most, and they have to do shitty snow, groomers, slush, ice, trees, moguls and whatever, so I gotta compromise on board choice!

[@cherrycarves]

@@jerryb63 "Bossy teacher"... Love it!

[@PascalFlamand]

You are just creating in the best technical snowboard content on KZbin. That person clearly doesn’t watch your videos. Because of your videos I now ride both double posi and duck stand depending of the board I use and the snow condition I’m riding on. Thank you for that. You are also right about having fun and experimenting. Long life to your channel!

[@bballer3712]

Dude you’re so cool for addressing this for the benefit of our COMMUNITY!! Not just our community but are world needs more people like you, so I appreciate that your using your voice to speak on a better society. You’re awesome Lars, thank you!

[@mtbrewfalling9442]

To be honest I was offended that you didn’t give any credit to the double negative riders out there and the benefits of riding downhill while facing uphill.

[@FazeredTube]

😂😂😂

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Best comment!!!! Hahaha! Nice one! And I'm sorry! Hahaha....

[@DrGeeChatha]

😂

[@ambrus7686]

I very rarely comment, but i just wanna echo the sentiment in here: you’re reasoned and educational approach is greatly appreciated. I’m an instructor that rides duckstance, although i’ve played with double posi before and likely will again. Your videos are exactly the type of carving content i’ve been after for years, and the part of snowboarding that’s almost like a shunned science. Thanks for adding to the library of snowboarding knowledge!

[@MinamiX3]

I like the content you and James Cherry do. Ignore the haters. You guys are the only ones who talk about the posi/posi riding style. I had to trial and error until you guys got your content up. And ive greatly benefited from it greatly and im sure many others have. Keep up the good work 🏂👍

[@DKR-1881]

No need to apologize whatsoever. Screw em'. We appreciate all the knowledge you and Mr. Cherry share. I know it's definitely improved my riding in a very short time.

[@hb7030]

Im guessing its Knapton, he rides duck

[@nathansutter6253]

I am so thankful for all the content you've been putting out. Please don't second guess anything you're doing. It's clear the person you describe has issues that have nothing to do with you. There are so many positive things about your content, the collaboration and sharing of ideas; every bit of it is a positive contribution to the snowboarding community. The only rational response to what you're bringing is gratitude.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you so much!!

[@fujobu741]

Any intelligent person that watches your videos knows that you’re not making fun of anybody and that your thoughtfully providing ideas on what you enjoy and different ways to try to ride that might suit your style, better or different stances, some people just need attention and take themselves way too seriously. Keep up the great content I’ll be watching.

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

Your advice and delivery style are second to none. You’ve given me loads of thoughts about how I’ve been riding and my set up and some great ideas that I want to try when I’m next back on the slopes. More than that, your detailed technical explanations on board set up are invaluable. So often either I’ve set my board up badly, or the shop have put the bindings on wrong, but following your videos after 30 years boarding I feel like I can confidently set my gear up for a range of conditions. As for the “snowboarding community”, as someone in their late 50s I’ve refined my superpower of not caring too much what others think. Keep up the fantastic work, I and many more love watching your videos. As you said, it’s all about fun.

[@martinbailly573]

Well…..that gentleman did not listen attentively. You are always saying that their is many different way to ride and many different set-ups, and that posi/posi is not always the best in certain conditions (you even talk about it with Malcom Moore) . So please, let’s relax, it is only snowboarding, even if we love it ! This gentleman should watch some older videos of Craig Kelly riding …..their is some learning there. Also, I totally agree with your observations working in the industry, their is very few people riding switch more that 10% of the time ! Finally, I really think that you are a fantastic ambassador for your sport and for Stranda by your demeanor, your enthusiasm, your respectful dialogue, your knowledge and your fabulous riding. Once again thank you for sharing and creating this channel, this is so much appreciated ! Cheers !

[@nicodemus1828384]

Love you Lars! Try not to let the haters get to you, anyone who cares to actually look should be able to see how full of warmth and fun you are. This is like that big group of people sitting down in the middle of the slope - just carve around them and ride on ❤

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you!! I appreciate this!!

[@martin0708]

I have been snowboarding for 30 years this year, am BASI and AADIDESS certified and still learn from each of your videos. It's a never-ending learning process with lots of different snow, terrain and weather conditions, boards and riding-styles, not only one religion. Besides everything mentioned, I would also like to say that it doesn't matter how good you are in order to have fun. Even for the beginner it is an incredible feeling to conquer your fears and the mountains. Thanks for your input Lars!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Awesome comment! I appreciate this! Thank you very much!

[@bordas1976]

You are so authentic and likeable - I like the way you are! 😊

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I appreciate that :-) ! Cheers!

[@clifflew4108]

Lars, your info and how you deliver it has been nothing but respectful, detailed, and very helpful imo. Keep doin what you're doing and don't let the haters get to you.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I appreciate that!

[@cherrycarves]

Whoa... That's intense. Ya sure I was trash talking, but it was all meant in good fun. People shouldn't take me so seriously, I'm just a snowboarder... The truth is that I have love and respect for carvers in all genres and all stances: soft or hard boots, duck or posi-posi, Knapton style or skwal style, I don't discriminate. I'm the guy who will chase you down if I see you carving a snowboard, I'll offer tips if you're struggling and let you try my board if you're goofy! I have made so many great friends through snowboarding and especially carving. I'm a member in good standing of the old school hard booting community in North America, I've been to so many events and helped countless people with their stance, equipment and technique, just as I received help from this community when I was starting out. I'm working even now to bring knowledge and gear to carvers everywhere, trying to grow the sport and save people the years of work and research I had to do to figure this stuff out. If people want to dismiss all that and focus solely on two short sentences in a video introduction, that's on them, but don't cast me as a hater. That's would be a mistake. Let me acknowledge too that there many, many tens of thousands of snowboarders who can do all kinds of things on a board that I will never do, and I want to say I have the utmost respect for their style(s). I only have two tricks myself: toeside and heelside. I'm trying to teach those tricks to people who are interested to learn. The rest is just hype. There's enough divisiveness in this world; let's all just be snowboarders.

[@sakazza]

James Cherry and Lars , I deeply appreciate your obsession with making the perfect turn or the best turn possible We all know when our turns are shite and when they are brilliant These great brothers are dedicated to getting us all riding better and turning the way the board was designed to turn Our personal setups are going to be drastically different for endless reasons Let's make sure the kids coming up know how to TURN and have a blast doing everything else

[@MinamiX3]

Keep up the good work man. I love your secrets/tips video looking forward for more.

[@davidgrondin3767]

Just thanks both of you for all your videos. Don’t bother with the 5% who talk trash. We all do snowboard. Even as a french canadian I understood the secondish degree.

[@brianp9268]

Your video spread so well because the people who watched it appreciated what it was, and what you are trying to do. The snowboard community respects it and you. I’ve been hearing you brought up in many different places across snowboarding. The people that get bent out of shape about something so simple will eventually just feel foolish about their own reaction.

[@cherrycarves]

@@brianp9268 Thanks Brian

[@LukeWingfieldDigby-k8q]

Your content is awesome! Ignore the trolls. Please don't let them discourage you from keeping producing more content for the rest of us who want to watch it. I've learnt so much from what you've shared and I have no doubt others have too. There are very few other snowboarding content producers who go in to the technical detail that you do, and there is a huge community that enjoys that level of detail. Being a middle aged rider, I also have no interest in freestyle or switch, so my fun comes from hunting powder off piste when the opportunity presents, or otherwise trying to continually improve my carving ability and that satisfying feeling you get from it whilst on the piste.

[@Gaobudong]

wow ppl really get offended so easily nowadays! I really love your channel and James' channel. Probably the best English channels focusing on posi posi stance carving. I think those folks are just too insecure about themselves even though some might have great skills

[@FREE.ON-Snow]

You're an amazing ambassador for snowboarding, especially for masterful turning. As many have already mentioned, those hating are likely a very minute percentage, majority of your following likely have a high level of respect and adoration for your technique and style. You're in my personal top 3 fave turners in the game. Wolken, yourself and Kazu Fujita. Keep up the awesome vids and content. Youre a leading inspo for the art of turning ❤️‍🔥📐

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Dang.... that's beyond a 'nice compliment'! Don't know what to say but Thank You!! Wow...

[@FREE.ON-Snow]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel no worries at all, just truth 🙏🏼. PS. A snowboarding friend of @SpenserAK, another fellow Lars turning disciple 🤓🙌🏼

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@FREE.ON-Snow Spenser is THE BEST! We're having so much fun nerding out... Hahaha :-)

[@spenserak]

@@FREE.ON-Snowis a liar! Never heard of him in my life 😜

[@FREE.ON-Snow]

@@spenserak 😂😘

[@stevol6282]

Ignore the haters. They’re secretly your biggest fans and proof of your success. Keep riding “Lars” style and I’ll keep riding mine.

[@jerrjerr60]

It's just a ride ! Don't worry Lars, you are golden. Keep on following your passion in the way you get the most fun out of it. Meanwhile your brilliant content is a inspiration for many of us out there.

[@leodunn-fox8611]

Lars I give your channel five posi's. Riding in my mid 70's on the East Coast I am not going to bomb, park, ride powder, get air or ride steep. But can still aspire for that pencil thin line. Not much intermediate or advanced instruction available on the local level so appreciate the generosity of the Lars, James, Malcom, Avran, Mark , Shane , Seung, Taevis, and Ryan's etc on the internet.

[@alvinsphan]

I just wanted to share that I really enjoy hearing what you've learned over your many years of snowboarding. It doesn't come off as saying there's only one way to do anything at all lol. I look forward to seeing more of your videos!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you for telling me that, and thanks for the support! Means a lot to me.

[@surfrico]

Love your channel Lars. I've learned so much watching your videos and I hope you'll continue to make them.

[@olevanem3932]

Thanks for all this. I'm digging both yours and James' channel, they are great inspirations for me to find my own way and style. I cant understand how it can create any sort of bad feelings in some people.

[@saswu18]

you are a super sincere person !!!! don't care too much at those people, who is gonna hate whatever they hear~~ enjoyed your sharing so much , and really getting my snowboard knowledge growing a lot!!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you so much!!

[@jerryb63]

We all share the mountains, and we do it in our own ways. I look out for anyone with skills when I’m on the chairlift, I love watching good skiers carve, I love watching boarders with skills I’ll never have whatever their style… I skied before I boarded and I wasn’t much good at it, I learnt to ride posi in the 90s and then went duck, and I couldn’t get that to work for me, but I’m a big fan of Malcolm’s channel just as I’ve watched loads of Knapton vids and learned a lot from those too even though I couldn’t dream of riding like that, but I’m just glad to see people doing stuff about this way of riding and helping me ride the way that I like best. And we’re all just as diverse in the way we come across,say things that maybe we could have said another way, maybe dry humoured remarks get interpreted differently and so on, but it’s clear to me at least that you guys are just talking about how to do it the way YOU like to do it, and sharing that experience with the rest of us who love snowboarding in whatever flavour. I’m 60 now, seen a lot of tribal stuff on the snow, had to defend my choice of planks sometimes but it’s live and let live, there’s much more acceptance and I don’t have time for divisiveness on the slopes any more, I ride with skiers mostly and we’ve all just got to get along and be nice to each other whatever style we choose to follow. Personally in your livestream I thought you were both extremely respectful of different styles and exponents. Keep it up!

[@macc2379]

I ride mostly duck. I love your videos. I appreciate the info you give and how you don’t just buy in to trends. You tell us to educate ourselves and know why we use the gear and set ups that we do. Thanks for your videos.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you so very much for that comment! You've truly understood the very essence of this space... Awesome!! I do want to empower. I don't aim for being the answer to everything. Hence, sometimes I find it a bit frustrating when I've explained every aspect of finding your stance (for example) and someone comments "So what do think, what stance should I ride?" Aaaaaaah! :-) How would I know?! Did you not just watch the video? Hahaha.... So you nailed it here! Thank you again!!!

[@StefanSchroff]

Ppl should stop hating and just go snowboarding instead…great content here and great inputs from james as well. Everyone’s painting his own picture.

[@pablobottoni5844]

You are so nice and respectfull!!!! The best for you Lars!!! Don't let haters affect all You do for the community! I'm a duck rider learning from You!! Love love love

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Ah... Thank you so much! :-)

[@xiuzhuqi7781]

Love your content so much Lars. I ride the SAJ style carving for a season, and love it so much！❤❤❤

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Hey! That's so great to hear! Thank you! I'm not familiar with the abbreviation 'SAJ Carving'. What does that stand for?

[@Boardrider3x1]

No worries ,Lars, you ain't done nothing wrong in my opinion. All your videos are pure, authentic and informative, habe helped me a lot (along with Malcolm's and James'). Hard to imagine that someone would get at you like that. Guess some people are just like that. You're so true to yourself and snowboarding in general, so helpful and open-minded. YOU ROCK!! Thanks for everything!! Tut mir sehr leid, dass Du mit sowas konfrontiert wurdest, bist so ein netter, authentischer und hilfsbereiten Kerl und willst nichts anderes als "uns da draußen" helfen, möglichst viel Spaß am Boarden zu haben. Herzlichen Dank nochmals!!

[@Boardrider3x1]

Hater will always hate, sad but true. But real snowboarders, who enjoy the simple act of riding, no matter what kind of board, bindings, boots, stance, angles or terrain will always cherrish and appreciate a true embassador of the sideways stance and advocate of stoke like you are, Lars! Happy riding and thanks for the great content you keep putting out 🤙

[@adrianserbanescu9466]

I know sometimes is hard to ignore the haters, but you really must do it, better for your health 😁, some people understand what they want, you’re doing a great job for the snowboarding community. Keep up the good work man 👍

[@ArtanisKizrath]

In any of your videos there's nothing from there that I took as ridiculing duck stance. My main take away is that riding posi-posi makes it easier to move the torso fore and aft and that movement helps with carving. How the rider achieves that fore and aft movement over the board - whether it's posi-posi or duck, is up to them. Again, I would like to thank your input and insight into the technical details of carving and snowboarding in general. It really helps the community to be provided the tools to achieve their riding style. I come from the sport of rock climbing where a route or problem can be climbed in endless ways depending on the climbers' body type and preferences. They have all these different techniques they can use to climb to the top. As you said, it's the same with carving - there are so many different ways to carve.

[@hughdesaulniers8832]

The beauty of social media is that I get to enjoy a channel like yours. The ugly is that it provides forum for the intolerant. Don't let those ****ers get ya down! They're unavoidable. Just keep doing what you are doing. It's clear that you have a body of experience which resonates with the people, and your delivery is excellent. Appreciate you!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you so much!!

[@louis058]

Man what has the internet done to our society People need to get off twitter Thanks for the videos, I learn so much off them!

[@lv_q3259]

You and James Cherry convinced me to try posi/posi and, in just 3 or 4 days of riding, I've made more carving progress than in 7 seasons of duck. Your explanations were well formed and required the viewer to simply give this stance a try. I thought I was laying trenches with duck, but double posi really made the board rail. Let the duck fanatics squeal. You're not hating on them, you're just making the openminded riders better.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you so very much for sharing this!! Biomechanics, that's all I have to say.... 😎

[@nc436haw0j83]

You're becoming quite popular, and you deserve it. The time you spend making these videos, the quality of the information you spread, the way you do it with respect and intelligence, all make you very commendable. Unfortunately, social media success brings its pack of haters. Hope you can ignore them.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you so much for saying that!!

[@davewarland1680]

Joys of the modern world and the game of 'who can be the most offended' of social media. Many moons ago when i started snowboarding it was all posi/posi riding and i rode for years with duck stance but cant now as nearing 60 with shot knees, its all about riding with minimal knee pain. It great now to see you and others speaking about posi/posi riding and showing younger people there are more options on snowboard setup and ways to ride. At a base level, its all about having fun and enjoying yourself riding down a mountain.

[@dlabmobiledetailing]

The best part about snowboarding is that as much as it’s a sport that requires certain general techniques, it’s also very much an art form. Everybody’s body work different and there are also individual preferences, like stances, and that’s what gives everybody their own style. The best thing to do is watch videos from the experts like Lars and John, among many others who put this amazing and invaluable content like this up for free, and take in as much as you can and try to visualize doing it yourself, and then experiment and practice with these different things until you find what works best for you. Don’t try to exactly copy somebody’s style, but most importantly, don’t be close-minded and think that what you do is the end all be all and that everybody should follow everything they do. If they get butthurt because somebody else does it differently and can take a light hearted joke, then they’re not a snowboarder at heart.

[@yangguzheng3544]

One could choose to ride posi posi one day for carving hard packed snow, and ride ducky for bumpy slush. There's no right or wrong between the two, they just serve different purposes slightly better or worse. The end goal is that all of us snowboarders can challenge ourselves and enjoy the sport. I didn't watch many of your videos but I do feel the valuable contribution you're making. Don't give a s*** about those small minds.

[@davidmcfall5926]

Lars, I loved that talk with you and James. I think James has a certain kind of sense of humor that some people just do not get. Of course, James likes powder days. I believe that he has talked about them or written about them (in the comments section) on his channel. I have a Gentemstick Superfish which I am working on carving with. Totally different approach but James was able offer some insights on how to adapt his carving tips to riding a Japanese snow-surf style board in a reply to one of my comments. Good stuff. He is not close-minded at all. In fact, I like both of your approaches and take a little from each of your methodologies. As Bruce Lee once famously said: "Absorb what is useful, discard what is not, add what is uniquely your own."

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Love the Bruce Lee quote!!!

[@HotChips-ot3rm]

Very well said, Lars. Keep doing what you're doing. Peace, love and tolerance

[@great_lakes_ryan]

Keep doing what you’re doing. I’m so thankful for your videos and James’ videos too. Your insight has completely changed my riding. Not sure I fully understand the difference between the way you two ride though. Maybe someday I’ll see you guys at MCC or some other mountain. People can behave very badly online because there is no social contract, ie, knuckle sandwiches. I really think it’s best to just delete some comments and focus on the people you have helped. And apologies seem to just empower online haters.

[@thetube4p]

Entrenched practices die hard. It takes years. Keep up the good work!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Great comment! Love it!

[@elenajb8479]

We live in a world of offended people... You two are great!!! and differents! I never stop learning and getting ideas for my snowboarding, and I think that's your goal. Happy driving, always!🏂🏾

[@lauhanwai]

Gosh - sorry you went through that - I think people are entitled to share their experiences, and be confident on what they felt they learned. It’s generally true that other people will have different experiences which might lead to dissonance, but it’s important to grow out of taking things too personally & allow for conflicting opinions. For me, watching your video inspired me to experiment with my riding stances. Personally I found that I found moving more positive lets me lock in the back knee to a more perpendicular plane to the snowboard, which reduces knee rotational stresses and makes a difference in my current circumstances.

[@ericking9263]

That has also been my experience. I’ve had a re-constructed and therefore less stable right (back) knee in my 20s. In fact, that’s one of the things that attracted me to snowboarding from skiing (less rotational stress on a knee). Double posi has always been my stance for everything out of necessity. I have friends that ride a light duck stance that are trying to get me to try it. I only ride directional and never in a park. It could be a benefit in trees but my knee isn’t comfortable twisted like that. We do what we can.

[@sneeuwplankers]

We've been riding duck forever, but you actually triggered us now to try the posi-posi. Very Curious. Keep up the good work!

[@flywdbag]

I've been riding a duck 18/-6, but still working on perfecting carving. Your content have “real” knowledge just like Malcolm Moore. The 'posi posi' theory for “easier” carving makes a lot of sense to me, and I'm excited to give it a try!!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Right on! I appreciate that!

[@FazeredTube]

It is a shame that you needed to make this video. Anyone who actually watches your videos in good faith would never come to that conclusion. You are sharing your knowledge and I am extremely grateful as I really was interested to explore this side of snowboarding and there wasn’t a good resource (that I found) until now. I hope you feel empowered to continue to make you videos without feeling like you need to dilute your message. Please stay your genuine self because your enthusiasm is infectious. P.S. I still ride duck sometimes and i am STILL not offended by anything you said. 😂😂

[@FazeredTube]

P.P.S. I already loved snowboarding, but your advice helped me enjoy my recent trip even more. It was so much fun experimenting and I had my best ever days on the mountain. Thank you.

[@rosska99]

Hang in there...your videos have helped me. Being a little more Positive in both feet isn't mandatory for all riders, it just makes carving EASIER...I'm pretty flexible for my height and age, but If I had really excellent hip flexibility I could do it in duck stance too. But that's your point...it's just easier for most people. That's the lesson: Don't get caught by negative vibes...Keep everything( mentality and stance) as positive as possible!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

You nailed it! My take on all of this is maximizing functionality to maximize fun...

[@jg-in6iv]

I'm sorry you would even have to make a video on this, but I guess thats the social media world we live in. I'm actually a skier with an instructing background, and I've done some race coaching as well. Love the feeling of clean, hard carving. When I came across your videos, and @cherrycarves as well, it made me want to give snowboarding a try at 49 years old! You guys make it look awesome. I already got a whole setup and went riding a couple times. Its a work in progress, but I'm enjoying learning the power of dark side. Haha! Looking forward to more content from the both of you. Excellent info. Keep up the great work, you guys are winning me over so you must be doing something right for the community. Thanks!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Ha! So cool to hear that!! Thanks for the comment! I guess the video wasn't really necessary... I also wanted to use it to explain again where I'm coming from and where the differences between James and me are lying, since we both offer coaching. It gives people a better idea and enables them to make a choice. ;-)

[@markthompson1796]

This situation sums up politics in the US right now. It's a mess down here. Let's get back to hanging out with everyone regardless of their opinions on this or that. Looking forward to listening and learning from yours and many other channels dedicated to the art of the turn. Rock on, Lars. Rock on.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks man! Yes, I agree 100% on the politics thing... Man.... it is a wild world out there!! Division is everywhere you look. People love it!

[@RikasHarsaOfficial]

First of all, I give 2 thumbs up about your way of edge tuning video. It is very useful, technical and a very comprehensive video. I don't think you should take things personally when negative comment approach you, because to be honest there will be people who just don't agree with you or what not. You definitely cannot and will not make everyone in the internet happy. So just stick to what you believe in and keep posting great contents about snowboarding. Stay true and nice work Lars.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks, will do!

[@DrGeeChatha]

You are doing something right. Thats why you are being attacked. I ride duck stance , love your videos , one day love to try double positive . Keep doing what you are doing . 👍

[@cnghiem67]

I came to your last video after watching Malcom Moore and found your treatise enlightening. I learned a heck of a lot from you and really enjoyed your video. As an older surfer who learned to snowboard on his own, i always had a more open stance. Your treatise made a lot of sense to me. Keep doing what you are doing

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks! Yeah, it's all about logic and making sense. Not about opinions. I actually don't want to argue. It seems so simple: if you never ride switch or only 5 to 10% of the time, why would your back knee point back and you're all twisted?! That's all I'm suggesting. And of course a surfer knows this! :-)

[@cnghiem67]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel if you had only put this video out ~28 years ago when I was learning to ride.

[@mfg5637]

I think it’s a matter of preference which works best for an individual

[@jeremystevens6020]

I like your channel. Carving is great.

[@colinbarbeau8678]

The difficulties of dealing with arrogant people that believe they know better and the challenges of dealing with different personalities. Not everyone is about good vibe my friend. To me, your message was 100% clear and you were very transparent right of the bat. My suggestion: don't worry about those people, focus on the positive stuff and continue what you are doing, because you are doing an awesome job at it. All the best!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks so much!!

[@abfitwithmattandbrent6274]

Thank you for your channel you actually change my style, and I love it, my board, much more. I ride a Burton custom X Was not a 100% happy riding a duck stands. switched to ++ I love it. Thank you keep doing what your doing

[@euqat]

Your channel is full of neutral knowledge and encourages me to try multiple things and find what suits me best, which is imo a very good approach. I guess some people feel attacked if one dares questioning what they're been doing forever. I've been trying double posi and I love btw haha

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

That's what I think, too. It's about their ego... Oh well! Can't win'em all!

[@MartinaCher]

Hi Lars, thank you for this video/words. It's important sometimes to reminder even if we have different opinions, we can communicate them with respect to the others. Especially on the Internet. PS. You and James riding same run looks great! And I mean it not only because I am James wife) 😀

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Haha! Hi James's wife! I heard about your good Czech food! :-)

[@MartinaCher]

How come you did not hear about beer?! :)) actually in Czechia we call beer as a liquid bread :D

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@MartinaCher did he not tell you that I walked up to him with two beers in glasses and said "Czech or German?", he picked Czech and I said "You're a good man!". Hahahaha.... I'm German. Our beer is just a copy of yours!

[@MartinaCher]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel he told me and I am proud of him 😀 Now I hope only that beer won't be another controversial topic here 😂 life is too short to be serious all the time ...

[@TheDerekHyde]

Oh the irony... saying that you two are close-minded while they are in fact VERY close-minded. James even talks about different stances for different boards (his powder board is at something like +18/-6). Some people seem to get off on stirring up controversy, while others are simply consumed by bigotry. There's no shortage of either on social media. Keep up the good work!

[@AluinKali]

Sorry you had this experience, sadly once you gain a certain amount of reach on the internet some people will take anything you say on bad faith and come to conclusions without even watching your content. Just know that even after snowboarding for over 2 decades I learned a ton from you and got a whole new understanding of how to view different stances. Can’t wait to put this into practice on my next trip to the Alps. Stuff like this will probably continue to happen from time to time. I hope you can see all the people who love what you do and ignore those who just want to cause drama.

[@asabretonic9816]

Its all ok. When we humans identify with something external we can often take things personally when someone has a view that may challenging "our' view. It's us identifying as ego, which is not who we truly are. Love is the answer. Keep sharing the love brother.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Truth! Thank you!

[@Daz5Daz]

Loved the MM collab. Great content as always Sir!

[@szaret1]

Its human nature sadly. People will find absolutely anything to hate on. Its in our dna. We gotta start teaching this in school so people recognize that we humans have this ridiculous tribalism flaw in us. If we are able to recognize that feeling pop up and squash it, it would be better for everyone. Keep doing what your doing my guy. I ride nothin but duck with a riding style completely opposite from yours but still love your stuff

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Nice one! I think expressing aversion and being able to disagree as well as expressing negative emotions and what not is super important. We can't just suppress all that stuff... people would start killing each other in wild outbursts of all the stuff they've been holding back. It's all about the way we do it in! And instead of yelling out a big f-you some people need to learn to seek conversation. Being offended is a choice. I chose to let this get to me. He chose to let my content get to him. So we're both 'weak'. The difference is that I didn't actually speak to him and was very neutral in my video, while he spoke directly to me telling me off... Really, it's all good. :-) I figured this would be a good video to make, because the community is so split between stances... which is so silly!!

[@gregorytherocketscientist1317]

Love the feeling of a pulling g's in carve. I'm a lot like James, spent 20 years doing all mountain and now really focusing on elevating my carving technique to feed the g's and the dopamine's that I'm addicted too🙂 But number one rule is to be safe and don't get hurt - riding with a carving buddy seems to work well for this. I hope you got some video of you and James riding together - would love to see that.

[@TooThinNotGood]

Love your channel and it is inspiring After watched your video, i decided to try out posi posi stance in my next season. Just like what you said, people including me learn snowboarding with duck stance at very begining, but seems it is not the most comfortable way to carve (Do have some issues with my back knee) giving that i cannot do switching at current stage, and not intend to practice freestyle at all

[@morna57]

Love your conent. Turned to posi-posi this season after watch your video about it, and i am having A. BLAST. Carving groomers! Thank your showing me the how, and for uploading with nerdy content. Love it! Btw, 100 days a season??? I would be stoked to get 30 days. Mid desember to mars/april is our winter season here in southern Norway, if lucky :)

[@ScottGear]

I rarely comment but want to add you are anything but offensive. You even addressed your point in the title, “different stance, different dance” Also thought you should know that your teaching changed our family’s riding for the better. I had no idea about various carving stances and techniques until watching you, Malcolm and James. My daughter just started slalom racing and was struggling in a +3/-3 stance, and after going posi/posi made it to state championships and is loving it. There is a world of snowboarders out here that love and appreciate your style and videos. Keep ‘em coming, and Thank you!!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Wow!!! Cool to her about your family and daughter‘s experience!!

[@DonLeonM]

Can't say I don't know what you're on about; I've encountered a lot of cynicism and mockery online. I choose to ignore it and focus on 1) great content, from channels such as yourself 2) focus on the FUN side of snowboarding Keep up the amazing content!

[@deerfootnz]

If you never ride switch -and I don't - then a more forward stance is more functional. OBVIOUSLY. It's much harder to carve heelside with a duck stance, but it's by no means impossible. I have been riding for thirty years and now exclusively ride with a forward stance. I even ride hard boots and an alpine board sometimes...and I love it!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

We’re sharing the exact same opinion on this! ✌️🙂

[@Duck_Duck_Carve]

Hey Lars, I love your content and have learnt so much from you(even though I ride duck!?!) Unfortunately the internet is not a nice place sometimes. I appreciate you doing more than your share to tip the balance to the nice direction 🙌

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you very much!!

[@yonishara]

My dear friend. Your videos, opinions and experience shared with all of us are a blessing to the snowboarding community. I've learned so much about snowboarding just from your expertise and experience you shared with us. I'm a seasoned snowboarder myself, instructor for 2 seasons now and riding for around 16 years already, yet there is so much I don't know so first of all I'm grateful. Please don't get offended by these monkeys in those social platforms, it's the same people trashing and making fun of step ons, posi posi, snowboarding fashion, race boarders etc. These people will always exist in the community like they exist in the surfing community and many other sport's communities. It makes them feel good when they laugh at others. I'm a park dedicated rider, and ride duck 9 9 and I don't a damn about anybody angle choices, as long as it doesn't affect their riding badly. Don't apologize and keep on doing your thing, any real snowboarder will appreciate all that you are doing!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

So nice to read this... Thanks!!

[@patthesoundguy]

I love your videos and how you make suggestions instead of saying everything else is wrong. As long as it's fun is how I approach it... I love how snowboarding is something that everyone can do it differently but still accomplish the same goal. This is year number 34 on a snowboard, and I have spent much of that experimenting. I love that I can watch a lady in her 60s do picture perfect carves with a duck stance, where I do the same thing on a 183 GS board with hard boots. I have plate bindings on all of my regular boards, and my boots are as stiff as I can get with the power strap cranked down tight. I like the board to feel like I'm part of it. I even ride twins with a forward stance and the hard boots cranked to the max. I grew up needing that support, and now I have it. I also live for groomers but i love to get my 181 twin out at night when the hill is a lumpy choppy mess and pretend I'm surfing. My setup and style is completely the opposite of my best friend who I've been riding with for more than 30 years, but we still manage to have a blast.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Great comment!! 👍❤️

[@covobenjamin3225]

This is not a snowboard community issue, this is just internet. People get offended about anything, let them be, it’s their problem. Thanks for your content, it’s great. On a wider picture, i think that one of the reasons for carving being back in trend, is simply that snowboarders are aging 😅 I am a 49 years old french rider, started snowboard as a teenager basically when the first boards became available. I have been more freestyle oriented for a long time, however with injuries, but also just time passing, my knees can’t really handle jumps anymore. I guess i am not the only one, snowboarder from the early days of the sport, turning back to more carving as a natural evolution. Even though carving is clearly very demanding, i think it’s obviously less brutal for the body than landing, or not!, a big jump or falling on a rail. I think there’s a generational thing here. Let kids spin in the park, while we carve the slopes, there’s plenty of fun available for everyone 😊

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Hahahaha, good point!! I'm 46, James is 49.... Hahaha....

[@victorystone1984]

Posi posi gang! If people are getting offended, they may be thinking too much instead of riding. Just go ride 🤙

[@akitokurosaki7687]

Hi Lars Sensei! Your content is awesome. Your haters pen is not working. Please keep do what you do. 🙏🙇‍♂

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you so very much!! :-)

[@cb1p111]

I'm riding a posi 90 / posi 90 degree binding angle on my skis. Looking around the slopes as a 3 year old since 1975, 99.99 percent of the skiers doing it the same way...facing their hips in the direction they're mostly riding. BUT riding SWITCH is not a problem... Riding powder... Not a problem... Riding park... Not a problem. I'm now really considering to mount one binding switch on the ski, to create the evolution of the duck stance... The "ballerina stance". Maybe this "punk approach" offers a whole new world to be different... Then giving me the possibility to diss the rest of the ski world. (ironic wishes from Germany)

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Hahahahahaha.... love this!! :-)

[@stianthorsen6968]

whats your thoughts about jones free carver ? 9000 have you testet the board?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

This is a slippery slope, because I am a Stranda ambassador but also simply a snowboarder with an opinion and experience... So anyone who reads this, please don't mistake this for bashing another brand!! I've ridden Jones for ten solid years before I found Stranda as a hardgoods buyer and simply fell in love... So... Freecarver.... I haven't ridden either one of them, so anything I say here is anyways to be taken with a grain of salt! However, I had a 6000 in for a tune up a few weeks ago, and it surprised me... The core thickness of the board is diminished between the bindings, and when you flex the board, it somewhat folds in the centre. It's quite soft in the middle. Pushing into the centre, the tips barely flex, while the centre folds... This is a flex pattern that allows effortless torsional twisting of the board through the feet when performing sliding turns. For carving - from everything I know and perceive on snow - this is entirely counterproductive. It's the tips that need to bend into a turn shape, and it's the centre that needs to maintain torsional stiffness to keep the board's turn shape through a turn. Torsionally soft boards are much more sensitive to bad grooming or rider imbalances... The unwanted twisting of the board in a carve changes the board's turn shape on snow - the line the edge draws into the snow! Since carving means that the tail follows the same path as the nose, this is obviously better with a torsionally stiffer board! So the Freecarver 6000 is clearly not that and IMO shouldn't be called a carver at all. The 9000 I haven't seen properly yet, and I'm not gonna make any assumptions. Watch my video on 'What makes a good carving board' here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYakmZWMg5ZngLssi=t7dcj3QLmJTpw1Vg Another thing I've experienced first hand at demo events with Stranda is people telling us "Wow, your Biru carves so much better than the Freecarver 6000" - although the Biru is an allmountain board and not meant to be a pure carver. Stranda and edge grip are a love affair! They simply figured it out - and that is why I moved away from Jones, which, don't get me wrong, always rode fantastically!! I do think, however, that the pressure of growth for an ever growing company like Jones forces the design team to cater more to the masses and prioritize 'easy to ride' over 'specific purpose for advanced riders'. But carving is advanced snowboarding, and why not make stuff on that level? I'd love to try both Freecarvers and I hope I'll get the chance at some point! That was a long answer.... :-)

[@xargo6454]

I'm sorry you had to go through that kind of case. Sadly that's how internet tends to be. The interesting bit is that the techniques you and James teach are really game changers for duck stance carving as well. I've said the same thing in many comment sections but I'll say it here again. Rotation really is something that is missing many times when I see people carving duck stance but it can absolutely be applied to duck carving and that takes especially the heelside turn to the next level.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Correct! :-) Thank you!!

[@diegonino2427]

The sheer lack of critical thinking from some people nowadays is outstanding really. The majority of the fun of this sport is to play around with all the variables and figure out what's the proper setup, style, and FEEL for each person. Is sad that you have to come up with these videos to "clarify" what should be pretty obvious but please keep your videos coming, this channel, Malcolm's and James' are my go to's, to go deep into the understanding of the sport!

[@therotorooster]

It's important to remember the online snowboarding community is not the snowboarding community. The hostile interactions I get online simply don't happen with the general public, my students or other instructors in the real world. Online it's about clicks, in the real world, it's about comradery.

[@wayte7615]

what's the brand of the snowboard that tagged you? anyone knows?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Well I know... But I'm not going to say which brand and which rider. I'm certain he'd lose his sponsorship, and I don't want that. He's young.... he's unreflected.... and carves super well in a duck stance! :-)

[@canesgolf]

What Stranda board do you ride? Great video

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Kinda all of them, hahahaha.... They all have their purpose and a amazing. My #1 groomer board is the Cheater and Pipeliner. Powder/carving is Descender/Shorty/Makrill depending on conditions. I can;t ride Tree Surfer and Bowlrider due to the narrow waist.

[@iamkeir]

So glad you’ve called this out. This is the kind of negativity and close-minded thinking that holds back innovation and progress. It’s also a complete misrepresentation of your style and words (and ironic he used the word “intolerant”). I was a breakdancer before I was a snowboard instructor and experienced similar in that community too. Interestingly, more so in the west, meanwhile Asia was pushing boundaries with their extremely supportive community. I notice a similar trend in the snowboard “mainstream” community (recently a flare up between TheButterDojo and AngrySnowboarder). That said, being a “thinker” and innovator, unfortunately will always garner some resistance (and perhaps jealousy), but you’re doing God’s work 😂 you’re talking to open minds and we hear and appreciate you! 🎉

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks man!!! Very nice of you!

[@LagmasterB]

On a brighter note, the replacement board I got from Rome, a Ravine Select 157, is my new favorite board. Does everything I need so well. Great all around board. Had 3 good days last week at 49° North. Went to Silver for first time today. Most of it was garbage. But we found lots of untracked powder on side and trees on chair 2. All feeds into speedy groomers. Quick laps but worth it. Friend had a super old k2 clicker setup. Boot came apart. I did a pro duct tape job. This is another pro for traditional bindings: security. Friday and Saturday I’ll be doing my first Splitboard touring over at Snoqualmie Pass. Baker was just too far for me. Should have good snow for next Tuesday/Wednesday at 49° or Silver. Going to Schweitzer 5th and 6th. Ikon pass gives me 4 days there. Plus the company that owns restaurant I work at, gives me $50 rooms and they have a hotel in Sandpoint, ID. Dog friendly so I can bring the pup. He can be a Schweitzer lot dog for a couple days. Have you been shredding since you got back from Europe? How was the trip? Do a quick video review of your trip hahaha

[@ShredAheadSnowboarding]

Anybody actually listening should realize that all the videos are for everyone to grow in the community: since many riders have a different idea of what and how to ride everyone should have an open mind! I personally love the opportunity to grow and try many different stances and a way to have fun! Keep up the stoke!

[@ancro2040]

This is so strange. You are so much not a hater and have done nothing to deserve that reaction. We have to put this on the other guy. Myself I ride 18/-6, 21/-3, 24/3 and 27/12 the most. All on some same and some different boards. Today I rode 27/12 on groomers and three four inhes of fresh snow. Love from Norway❤

[@edoardodimacco9325]

As I commented on one of your stance video, I ride -15+15 nowadays because I like the challenge of riding switch as good as regular, and make transitions. In between. I do carve, but if I would not be interested in going switch there would be no reason why I should not ride with double positive stance undoubtely morecomfortable. I don't really see why someone should be upset, unless he/she feels the argument is challenging he's/her's image on the wide public...marketing at the end.

[@tbaart4428]

Just ignore the haters. The whole argument about stances is just silly. I have a carving board that’s set up pos/pos and other all mtn boards set up somewhat duck. I started trying to carve after watching the Korua guys. If you can do both then that just equates to more fun on the mountain.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

1000% agreed!! Exactly this! It's so silly!!

[@TheClgagnon]

I like you Lars, you've got all your 🦆🦆in a row!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks Clarence! :-)

[@joakimyliruusi]

I love both your content and James stuff! Also good that you defended yourself, although social media battles are so useless. Very interrsting what you said about the way James and you approach carving, different technique outcome similar. For me as a beginner carver it was good to hear so I know whos approach to choose. As the technique is quite different it might be good to stick to one or the other, not mix. Or what do you think?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Definitely mix! Depends on conditions! I sometimes ride four different ways within one run... Up or down unweighted turns, and then leaning vs. ankles/knees. The more you know, the more you know... ;-) Adapting to terrain is key, otherwise you become a one trick pony that can only ride in certain conditions. I used this occasion to 'defend' myself, but more so to point out that me and James have those different approaches for the same outcome, which I find amazing

[@saiyanreddragon]

Don't apologize when you've done nothing wrong. -Jordan B. Peterson I came to the content you and James provide because I want refine and improve my carving. I've been riding and carving duck stance for 30 years. You and James laid out the truth - it's done better in a positive positive stance. The science, anatomy and mechanics make that a fact. I never took it as it can't be done. Because of you two, I'm in search of a new setup and direction in the sport I love The negative exchange you had was not with a snowboarder... like you said - we're a community and love all aspects. Your exchange was with an insecure ego, who happens to own a snowboard and yes - carve. Plenty of people think the flat earth conspiracy is real....they are not worth your time arguing with, questioning and analyzing your own content, let alone apologizing to. If they're offended - that's their problem. Please continue to focus your time and energy on the content we all love and that you have been providing prior to this video.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Great comment!! Thanks! I agree with the JP quote. I don't think I'm apologetic here. It was more of an attempt to reflect on the fact that some people do take my content in a weird way and me making that public to state again that snowboarding has so many faces..... I also agree with the functionality aspect of carving and posi. The guys who are doing it extremely well in a duck stance (like that dude who challenged me to this whole thing here) are all very twisted in their heel turns, and I'm simply saying "If you don't ride switch much, why do this to yourself? Just ride an open position!" - But you know this already... :-) It's weird that the dude is a brand ambassador for a pretty highly regarded brand in the carving scene - soft and hard boot. It's just immaturity!

[@stianh.4587]

This guy must have not paid attention to your videos. On every occasion where you discuss posi posi you underline that you don't regard any stance to be any better than other, and that there are a multitude of approaches to snowboarding. Love your content, don't let guys like this get to you!