Snowboard carving turn sequence // Body position

How do I carve on a snowboard?
Essentially it is all about stacking yourself above the edge efficiently, tipping the board over and following its sidecut without letting it get ahead of you.
Now that sounds pretty easy... But really, the body position needs to be pretty dialled in order for this to work.
Check out this little sequence and my explanations. I hope it makes sense.
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Photos: @canning87 (Jon Canning, Fernie, BC)
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[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

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[@billrathbun7847]

I remember 38 yrs ago the burton race team taught me a secret. Everything you're explaining is pretty much right on. What they told me, If you are on your heel edge, take the back knee and try to drive it, push it, ((behind)) the front knee, almost like your pushing it towards the heel. Pushing the knee as far as you can, but make sure to be in a tuck position and have the knees in a very close position. Doing this drives the hips even more so than just arms & shoulder pointing to the direction you want to go, but still necessary for that turn. On toe edge, the same, drive the rear knee past the front knee but towards the toes. The trick here is make sure those knees are super close together. Very much like Craig Kelly stance. I'm probably not explaining it right but just practice driving that rear knee behind left for heel turns - towards the heel, then push right on toe side but try to keep the knees a close as possible. It helps gets those hips on the proper position if you are in a tuck stance. The arms and shoulders help out a lot to drive the hips. There are some other silly tricks for carving they showed me but that one really was a game changer which I still use to this day if I want to hit the NOS to pass everyone.

[@hugotwenties]

It is much more stable and safe to drive the FRONT knee towards the snow on heelside, and drive the REAR knee towards the snow on toeside. You’ll achieve the same or similar hip position but with a much more natural legs position, having a wider base in both cases, therefore more stability, power, and suspension.

[@user-fu2qc6cv7b]

I've been using this technique for ages as well, but started doing it for a different reason; to control the arc of my board. Glad to know it has other benefits.

[@makanimcd]

Magic! It just happens… @9:30 No greater feeling when things click in a carve. Surfed all my life, but back and spine issues and age have hampered my paddling ability and timing in surfing. Snowboarding, especially carving is filling that void. Was lucky enough this year to get about 32 days on snow traveling from Hawaii. Absolutely love your vids!!🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Glad you found a filler!! That must be terrible to face the thought of not surfing or doing much less of it...... Thanks for the kind words!!

[@somebodyyyyy806]

Lars, your channel is absolute gold! Thank you so much for these detailed videos!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks a bunch!! Spread the love!! 😊🙏

[@martinbailly573]

Once again, incredibly brillant analysis. Your channel is pure gold Lars ! Pretty intense moment, that carving sequence ! Thank you so much ! (Biru magic ?)

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks Martin, you're just too nice! :-) Yes, Biru 157!

[@mackakiwinz4353]

The tree really made this video exceptional and great clarity and photography. The toe side turn where your knees come together show the drive equating to control and power reflected in the nice arc of the pencil line. Personally I love this moment as you can achieve so much speed and power to take you into a upright position to pivot for a hard heel carve. Superb analysis thanks Lars.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Yeah man, that's it!! Great comment and thank you!! :-)

[@flyguyhelo]

very cool. I'm glad to see some similarity with japaneese/Korean technique, they really seem to extend their front foot to allow their hip rotation to keep going forward. some of these guys really seem to rip even carving switch with severe posi-posi stance. Interesting

[@peterjacobs6290]

I absolutely love a left hand off camber as a regular footer. It feels Soo good.

[@momentumproject]

Very cool breakdown! A cue I find helpful on the heelside is the idea of the hips getting “out of the way” as they track more over the back foot as flexion happens. This allows for the leveling of the shoulders…always a work-in-progress for me on the heelside, but seems to create some good feelings!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks Jeff!! Definitely get that butt over the back foot!!! 😎🔥👍

[@valeriogiajvia165]

c'mon ... absolutely amazing Please make a slowmotion video of carving, 1 hours maybe 2

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Hahahahahahahaha........... :-)

[@elho001]

😂

[@gregorytherocketscientist1317]

Awesome turns - not sure my old brain can process all that body position detail in real time - lol. But I love my new Cheater - day two yesterday and had one of the best days of my life. A joy in the powder and a killer on edge. Thanks for the great review and recommendation - love your turns and this detailed analysis. You’re the best😎 Mats sent me an early bird opportunity to get the Pipeliner 2.0 - can’t wait to get that board on edge soon. Thanks for the good times.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

That's so great to hear!! Enjoy the ride!!

[@TomerGazit]

Amazing study material, thanks!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Phew.... glad that's helpful... Quite hard to really verbalize what is all going on. I missed some small things, too... Thanks man!!

[@user-fu2qc6cv7b]

Hey Lars! Easy fix! On your toe side turns, your front hand should be reaching for the heel of your front boot. And on heel side turns, your back hand should be reaching for the toes of your back foot. This will ensure you angulate (pinch) the hip and maintain edge pressure. Doing this will also keep you centered over your boots and allow you to make any micro adjustments thru the turn. Luv your channel, keep 'em coming! Best, Joey

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks man! Yeah, I know that drill. I find on the heels it needs more rotation than what you suggest. It works perfectly with hardboot angles, like 54° on the backfoot.... There reaching for the toes of the back foot stacks you well and your hip is already super open due to the stance angles. With my 12° on the backfoot I need to rotate past that and aim more for the front knee with my back hand. Funny you're suggesting this! I literally just played with that on different setups about two weeks ago :-)

[@user-fu2qc6cv7b]

Full disclosure; I'm hardbooting it. Haven't made the switch yet to soft boots.@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@user-fu2qc6cv7b Makes total sense!! I hardboot like four times a season. It's awesome on the right day. 🙂

[@iddqd6716]

Hi Lars, great explanation of that rare information! Thanks for sharing that!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Glad you liked it! :-)

[@joakimyliruusi]

This was such an amazing video. Truly the photo sequence tells much more than a video, or then you should be able to slow mo the video like crazy. This was very easy to follow and analyze. I've just changed to posi posi +6 +27, and my difficulty is get the back knee angled in towards the front knee on the heel side turn. Carving on toe side edge usually works better. On heel side my back foot kicks out more easy resulting in skidding.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Glad you liked it! There's a million reasons for skidding on the heel edge... It's so much harder than toe side! The biggest problems are usually not enough upper body rotation and board angulation, shoulders not level (inside shoulder dipping into the turn) as well as timing (getting the board on edge too late). And then all the little things... haha... :-) It's a fun journey to get there!!

[@mikizhang7758]

Gold channel!!!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks Miki!! :-)

[@jeremystevens6020]

I appreciate your videos.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you kindly!!

[@user-vh8jf7be4h]

Fantastic analysis of that sequence of photos, I dream of being able to angle the board so much and draw such thin and perfect turns. That Biru, she behaves really well in Carving!!😱

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you kindly!! Edge grip is Stranda's DNA and secret... Mats simply doesn't know how to make boards that don't hold an edge... Hahaha...

[@timothymoore4968]

3rd or 4th photo is such a good shot! Frame it. Also by comparison we look so silly in the transition period between turns 😂

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Yup!!

[@nemaemanema3940]

Awesome!

[@borges4662]

Great sequence and discussion of it. I think you can also keep your hips over the board on both turns with less twisting by maximizing forward flex at the ankles. When riding soft boots I put an old burton cant plate under my back binding to create heel lift (no cant). I like how that helps to bring my hips over the board without twisting. I haven't seen anyone else do that but it works great!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Great tip! My ankle flex is quite restricted...... Thanks!!

[@XAVIERZAX]

Light on the hands, heavy on the edges, good challenge, our philosophy are so close 😊

[@OldBlk]

I can’t believe I see O-M’s photo here. He’s a master of his craft. You’re awesome! I learned carving in Japan too and really appreciate these surf style turns. Please check out Waji and Rei too

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

YESSS!!!!! Thank you so much for telling me the name of the rider!!! His style......... soooo good!!!! Thank you very much!!! Do you have links to the other two guys?? Would love to check them out!

[@caspiankai5070]

I found waji insta recently , wajiwazy is his account! I’m addicted to watching his style. Just recently went to Hokkaido and rode a gentemstick Flyfisk. Amazing. Love the terrain there to. Great videos Lars!

[@MinamiX3]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmrYf36Ijbxomsksi=yeR1IcEmN2tMix5C. Neil Hartmann has some vlogs with waji and rei. What's o-m's full name my Google foo isnt working for me😢

[@OldBlk]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Of course. I’m no where near as good as you, but very happy to share some of my favorite riders. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5ytYZqBjrCAlck

[@OldBlk]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/b33JdqJ6Zq95sJY

[@ancro2040]

I love this video. Thanks for doing this! It is very informative and I think I am able to understand what you are trying to do. Looking at the pencile line in the snow showes that this is some good carves. I am amazed at how steep you are able to tilt the board. Btw, which board is this and what angles are you riding and how wide is your stance in these turns?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you very much! This is on a Stranda Biru 157, 274mm waist width. Size 10 Ride Insano boots, 53cm stance (21"), 30°/+12°.

[@ancro2040]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Thanks! Are there any reason why you took the Biru for that ride and why the 157 and not the 154? I know you are quite light but with US 10 boot?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@ancro2040 So in all honesty: I would normally not ride the Biru as my carving board, as I prefer a larger sidecut radius. I took it out that morning, because I can use some of the images for Stranda to promote the board. As you can see, it's a little carving machine!! The edge grip is quite incredible. But yeah, I like a bigger board/radius, and to maximize that with this model, I went for the 157. For flat out groomer riding I'd normally take the Cheater or the 2025 Pipeliner. Funny enough, for this particular shot the tight radius might have helped, hahaha.... 🙂

[@ancro2040]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel That makes sence 😁

[@ancro2040]

How do you think those two turns would have been affected if you where riding the Cheater?

[@markthompson1796]

Awesome break down. Carving is harder than it looks.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks! Man.... is it ever! Journey never ends. The pursuit of the perfect arc... :-)

[@DominicTschupp]

Lars, do you surf? I feel like surfing and then going back to doing snowboard carves helps a lot. Personally, I understood snowboard carving better once I did my first bottom turns and top turns on a wave.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I do. Unfortunately not very often, hence on a rather low level... The parallels are very cool, and then there are also things that are totally different.... It's quite interesting!

[@TheDerekHyde]

At 14:12 the added text mentions more pinching of the left hip and where you lack of flexibility. I hear you! The Quadratus Lumborum on my leading hip has plagued me for years. I'd be really interested to see your 15 minute warmup routine, or any additional conditioning... I certainly need to do something more.

[@user-lm3wo6ok9u]

14:05 "you tell me" : in one of my comments I already mentioned that it is favorable to follow down the outside of your left leg with the left hand until you can grab the heel cup of your left binding or even put the fingers on the base of the board underneath the left heel cup. If you're not able to avoid touching the snow... Then touch it with your right hand only. Fight the fear of falling... Putting both hands in the direction of the turn leads to the wrong results as can be seen. This pushup position might be safer in case of falling, but not in case of good carving. Best shoot by the way is 6:38 between the shadows the sun shining at your base.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Are you also a hardbooter? It's not the same! I entirely understand what you're saying - or better what you copied and pasted. Thanks for the comment!

[@zabriskieband]

awesome! I really wanna get there too! I've been riding all my life (since 16, now I'm 52), with a few years in between where I paused, but really became motivated in the last few years to learn new things and this style of carving definitely is what I like to learn. I can carve ok, meaning I can draw pencil lines quite nicely, but where I'm "hitting a wall" is at the board angle! I just don't know how to get that angle really tilted like you do? What are some tips on how to get the angle steeper? Is it just fear that blocks me? I see that the fun really only starts with the steep angles of the board, when the body get's closer to the ground and touches! This must be such a feeling!! Thanks for your really interesting videos!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Mostly it's about stacking the body over the edge... The higher the edge angle, the more mass is at the inside of the turn, the harder it is to stay well balanced. So being stacked above the edge perfectly is super important to increase the angle. This can look different from person to person as in your mistakes may not be the same as another rider's mistakes. I offer video analysis, and if you want, we can work together. [e-mail] Thanks for the comment and the stoke! It is a great feeling... :-)

[@davidaron8139]

That was very not rubbish, thanks

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Haha, thanks, David! :-)

[@Fadesign100]

Decent position ... nice to see... Ever ride at Nakiska ?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks. No, unfortunately not.

[@wiesejulian9225]

Magic.... it just happens...😂❤

[@Phos9]

I noticed yesterday that I was having a hard time putting pressure into me rear heel side contact point, then I saw this video, then today I tried something like that heel side position and I realized that the reason for the problem is that my left quad is much more developed from driving a stick shift, the clutch is the heaviest pedal (I ride regular)

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Wow! Stick shift leg! Maybe that should be in the dictionary! ;-)

[@nemdawg6342]

Do you have any recommendation for a not quite intermediate snowboarder with a big boot looking to really get into carving? Like a beginner Stranda board?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

There's no real beginner Stranda... But the Cheater 170W is surprisingly easy to ride. Otherwise, it's not really about the board.... It's gonna be a long way until you'll notice which difference the board actually makes. Until then anything camber that is wide enough and not silly stiff will do the job. Roughly maximum 18mm taper - past that you may start getting tail wash - depends... Carving is a lot about the rider, unfortunately. Every board carves. Some do it better than others, but they all do it. Good luck!! It's a fun journey!

[@nemdawg6342]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Not unfortunate that it’s about the rider, just means I have some practice to do! Thank you!

[@loadthegold4521]

I’m a US size 12 and have been riding the RIDE Twinpig 158W. 275mm of board width makes it very forgiving for big boot carvers!

[@nemdawg6342]

@@loadthegold4521 awesome, thanks!

[@DieterDeutel-pg5zl]

Hi Lars, Great video and analysis! One question: What are your thoughts on Ryan Knaptons turns. He rides a duck stance, never really seems to put his knees together and sometimes it feels, he just plays a completely different ball game (just not sure “how). Would be great to hear your perspective!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

He DOES play a different ball game! He's on a board with an 18m (or more) radius, specially made for him to carve high board angles in very mellow terrain and still carry speed and momentum for his tricks. My take is not about right or wrong, but about what's more efficient! He's riding duck, because he does tricks and carves switch better than most people do in their main riding direction... My message is: if you don't aim for that, double posi is the more efficient way of doing this. That's all! I do also believe that in duck you'll hit a wall earlier when the terrain gets very steep and very tight... There is a reason - besides board width - why there's an entire racing world out there with people carving in a +/+ stance. :-) That's all! People should experiment and find out what works for them!

[@DieterDeutel-pg5zl]

Thanks Lars, makes total sense. Happy Sunday!

[@DieterDeutel-pg5zl]

Would be interesting though, if you could make a similar analysis of Ryan’s carves 🙃

[@fireblade1986]

I think that dropping of your upper body is just unconscious positioning of your CG to compensate for that crest and change in fall line... If you wouldn't have done it you would likely gotten airborne towards the end of the turn as the slope starts dropping away under you... Mass inertia needs more preamtive action than your board and edge pressure. ... If you pump a roller you also drop your CG before the crest, so you can apply pressure on the backside. To me you look still quite tall through transition... For me riding duck isn't a problem to get the weight to the front or rotate the hips... I've got plenty of rotation towards the outside in my ankle (but 15 years of kitesurfing drove in that rotation movement pretty solid both directions) So I can drive the back knee inside and forward... But I feel I can get much lower in transition, so you have more room to push the board out into the apex of the turn. And as I am working more with my back and abs I have more/easier control on upper body angulation, giving very high stability throughout fast turnchanges. Together with the very tight radius of my current board that actually has allowed me to pump hard carves through some flat sections without loosing speed. Something I always tried to achieve science I learned how to pump my longboard. ...and so fun to... You are shourtturn carving really hard, while everyone else tries to preserve momentum. I terms of edge angle and boot out it is more the front foot pressure, that creates a deep and solid track for the board to sit in and follow, rather than some deg. Of rotation.... Especially the rear foot + or - 15deg comes out to the same overhang. Once you start moving the weight back your board will swim up like in powder and eventually it goes straight on, you extend the legs to keep pressure, that increases the edge angle and only the the result is boot out... Unless in very soft conditions where you really feel the board slowing down from the boots dragging in the snow... But in those conditions I usually fall because I get to slow/stuck, not because I loose my edge

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Great comment! Thank you! Do you race boardercross or something? Sounds like it. Great understanding! I agree with the front foot pressure creating the trench. I hope I didn’t say anything that sounds like I didn’t. Moving weight into the back foot through the standing up phase feels important. Did I get that right that you actually stay on your front foot? That part confused me. Yeah, and duck and carving depends on mobility, which I’m clearly lacking. 😊

[@fireblade1986]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel unfortunately I'm just a recreational rider, but got into Snowboarding and Carving already 20y ago... but just with the rise of ryan knapton found a new passion for working on technique. but as i don't have that much freestyle background but more freeride and keeping up with good skiers for me it was more about edge control and lightning fast edgechanges, so you can keep on carving even on full groomers and steeper slopes without sacrificing sidehit fun. ... have not tried +/+ for ages and there is shure positives to it aswell... as for example i often have to balance out "shifting hips forward"-> more knee bend -> less heelside engagement on front foot. More rotation compensates that, but you might get into quite a locked down position with little room for corretion ... and if you forget to decrease rotation on your toeside, you increase the tendency to exit the toeside carve to early and to fast... thus spoiling your next heelside... I'd say that is also the most common reason for people sucking at their heelside... you come out of your toeside very strong and fast, but forget that you did enter that turn way slower as your previous heelside probably was not optimal aswell. but in the end its just about linking turns... staying fluent, using the terrain ondulations to play with and so on. As i also do Kitesurfing, MTB, Longboarding, Gliding, Sailing and even did judo way back... its all about converting external momentum to your advantage, and the less seamless you get at doing it, the less efford it takes, and you can basically get free speed/energy. like riding the Pumptrack on an MTB taught me so much about carving... you can alter the outcome of one ossilation/turn greatly by the timing of your input. ... push right after the crest/edgechange... lots of power generated early on ... accelerates ... push right at the trough/turn apex is neutral in terms of momentum ... push out towards the end, slows you down... like jumping a roller would be the extrem... gives alot of time for the transition you can also think of it in ways of Waves/music... resonance, dissonance adding or subtracting from the "natural frequency" of your boardradius and to come back to your comment, you def. did not say anything wrong about weightdistribution... if you stay to far forward you increase the risk of digging in your Nose and also overrotating the turn and losing momentum. ... quite extreme on the MTB ... you just squash down your forks into the next hill on the pumptrack and risk going over the bars. ... but also cornering on the Bike will teach you alot about keeping that weight forward to initiate the turn... hurts alot if you dont xD

[@fireblade1986]

one more idea that i used to explain to beginners is to think of a dart/arrow... if you dig in the aft part of the edge its like the guiding feathers of an arrow... but your weight will still be in front of that guide ... so you go straigth as an arrow... ... try trowing an arrow backwards... it will turn itself around... so if you engage the front part of the edge your weight is behind it and wants to push around... you initiate a turn. middle is the balanced position. ... so front, middle, back = initiate, maintain, exit/straighten out so on Steep slopes i enter way in the front and extremly low... push out fast so you get an early edge engagement and tight radius way before the apex, and you will have a deep solid trench for your board to follow through while the momentum builds during the Fall line. ... but to actually get the early engagement people need to start to think of going/bouncing left to right on the slope... if you think about going downhill, your momentum will go downhill aswell... so you only get the power of your momentum pushing against the edge at the end of the turn. if you try/start to bounce your momentum left to right you get the max. pressure on the edge at the apex and allready some centrifugal force holding you up, when you enter the turn basically facing head down on a steeper slope. on steeps it allso helps to go sideways and start with a short cut up the hill before you get into the first turn, as that gives you uphill momentum that you can than push against your board. (MTB scandinavian flick)

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@fireblade1986 Love this! I entirely agree with every word!! Would love to see you ride!! In the steeps is where you really see who makes use of the physics actively and who is just a passenger on their board... Great comments! Thank you!!

[@fireblade1986]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channelwould love to show you ... but actually i did not even get one day on snow this season due to jobchange :( ... but you are in the alps aren't you?

[@MarlonBrandoPocahontasandme]

What kind of snow are you in this? Just curious for any tips on really firm/icy conditions

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

This is pretty good cord... Not icy at all. On ice it's all about getting your centre of mass (hips) super close to the board and stacked perfectly over the edge. It's difficult! And it has limits. Board wise ideally you have a long effective edge on a torsionally stiff board with a softer flex longitudinally (softer tips).

[@Skatesurfer]

What do u think about back leg do more than 12° (ex. 18° or 21°, but front leg stay in 33°)

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

If it lines up with your joints, go for it! Doesn't work for me.

[@Skatesurfer]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel How do you understand it's yours right angle? In all these stance I feel ok, maybe in 12° (back) can ride more "aggressive". It's hard to catch it🙃

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@Skatesurfer lots of riding.... lots of paying attention to how your body moves or is restricted.... There's no help with this from the outside. And there's as many 'right stances' as there are riders.

[@irsever]

The Zapruder film of carving analysis. "Back, and to his left."

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Haha... just looked this up. Had no idea about the Zapruder film. Now I gotta watch that! 🙂Thanks!!

[@leodunn-fox8611]

Lars, what does the phrase "soul turns" mean on the Stranda webpage?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I guess turns for the soul.... Long, smooth, drawn out turns - or simply clean turns. The term is mostly used for powder turns - Craig Kelly style... fast, clean and low.... I think it translates to carving as well. Think of a clean, fresh groomer and laying out big pencil line carves... Pretty soulful, I think! :-)

[@therealchickentender]

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[@user-ss4dz8dr5z]

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[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

English subtitles are on. That's all I can do right now. Hope that helps!

[@asselin]

first 🙂

[@brandydobie2722]

😈 *promo sm*

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Not sure I know what you mean?!

[@XAVIERZAX]

Less efficient with duck stance....not offensing anybody 😂😂😂

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Oh man...... I said that in another video and that got me in trouble with an offended duck stance carver....People are wild!

[@XAVIERZAX]

​@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channeli know this. I was teasing....

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@XAVIERZAX hahahaha.... ;-)

[@cknumbaone11]

Bisschen viel Gelaber...

[@cb1p111]

14:05 "you tell me" : in one of my comments I already mentioned that it is favorable to follow down the outside of your left leg with the left hand until you can grab the heel cup of your left binding or even put the fingers on the base of the board underneath the left heel cup. If you're not able to avoid touching the snow... Then touch it with your right hand only. Fight the fear of falling... Putting both hands in the direction of the turn leads to the wrong results as can be seen. This pushup position might be safer in case of falling, but not in case of good carving. Best shoot by the way is 6:38 between the shadows the sun shining at your base.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Can’t see the push up position, since my torso is rotated and I’m not just face down falling into the turn. Isn’t what I’m describing about keeping my shoulders level exactly what you’re saying?? Level shoulders are the result of what we both describe, and as I said, at that one point I’m caving in… But otherwise I think we’re talking about the same thing.

[@cb1p111]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel having the left arm at the outside of your left leg would have placed more weight in the right place. Having both arms on the inside is what I describe as pushup position. Imagine doing a heelside turn and putting both hands in the snow in front of your body... Simply not possible... And wrong too. Heelside turn : left hand in the snow or better 2 inches above. Right hand grabbing the base in front of your right foot. Toeside turn : right hand is touching the snow or better 2 inches above. Left hand grabbing the base underneath the heel cup. Your left hand in your toeside turn is on the wrong side of board... Nah nah. Watch how far your left hand is away from your left heel cup. Completely off... The weight completely on the inside. Checking the other comments, Joey has written the same 2 hours ago. That's the solution. Easier for me to describe these technical things in German.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@cb1p111 You are clearly talking from the perspective of carving in hardboots with steep angles. Everything you say is completely correct - for steeper binding angles. I ride 12° on the back foot here.... If I simply run my right hand down to the right boot in a heel turn, I do not have enough rotation! Otherwise I agree 100% with you. Same goes for toe side. Steeper binding angles will rotate the pelvis forward, placing the hand automatically where you say they should be. My stance angles still make me ride more sideways than an alpine stance would. This is exactly why the whole soft boot carving thing is so weird... It's an 'in between'. I don't think that you can apply the exact same technique as in an alpine stance. It has elements of it. Anyhow, I agree with you and understand the position you describe! Please consider my setup. Please consider that from behind things look a little different, too. If you have a photo of how it's done correctly with someone in softboots and similar angles you can please send that to [e-mail] so I can learn!

[@cb1p111]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I'm riding softboot. 43/18 or 33(30)/15 on wide boards. But yes... Coming from a hardboot background.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@cb1p111 43 is interesting! Never seen a binding that can be adjusted to that angle. I'll keep practicing! Cheers!