Double Sided Tape VS The Blue Tape Trick

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In this week’s woodworking skill builder we’re talking about double sided tape vs the blue tape trick. The double sided tape is definitely my favorite and a must have in any woodworking shop. I really can’t wait to see what you create! Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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[@katzmosestools]

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[@retiredrookie7146]

Hey boss. You got any vids covering anything on outside furniture pieces? Namely something on wood selection and finishes? I know that's prolly a lot of ground to cover, but link me if you've already made a vid on it. And make a vid on it if you haven't.......... I need to know these things.

[@ronnielemoine4862]

Love taytools. I'm a machinist by trade and a woodworker by hobby and taytools has great stuff

[@quentinreid3111]

Why not premake long strips of double sided blue tape? Put long strips of tape on some wax paper, apply glue, apply accelerated on opposing strips, neatly place them on each other, layer more wax paper and apply pressure. I will admit it's more of a process than double sided tape but I feel like that would work as well.

[@katzmosestools]

@@quentinreid3111 lol, you can't be serious? That is the antithesis of this video.

[@katzmosestools]

@@retiredrookie7146 check put my 4 favorite finishes video

[@InspireWoodcraft]

From years of experience with this same exact double sided tape, I just wanted to let you know that it is even more convenient and efficient if you don’t tear off pieces before taking the back off. Leave a “tail” of backing free. Just apply the tape right off the roll, strip the backing and rip the tape off while leaving the backing on the roll. It’s hard to explain in writing (I made a whole video on it a long time ago) but I guarantee once you figure out how to do it you will never go back!

[@tcmerrill8018]

Inspire Woodcraft Yes. That’s very much like leaving a courtesy tab on a roll of clear tape. Folding over the last half inch so that you don’t have to pick at it with your finger nails to get tape off the roll next time.

[@Langhorstiness]

Intertape Polymer Group "591" is the make and model of the tape - obviously comes in various widths. Often marketed as the tape used for between the shaft and grip for golf grips which is why it's so thin.

[@shanechepren8119]

Man, California quarantine has got him sniffing glue now.

[@katzmosestools]

My boredom knows no bounds.

[@christianscustoms6429]

@@katzmosestools your boredom nose* no bounds 😉

[@hi5ornah530]

"Let's come into the bench and have a talk" is the most wholesome thing!! This world needs more JKM.

[@pghcustombaits2816]

Wish I would have seen this before now. Just made 7 of your blast gates from the temples using blue tape method. Man what a pain that was. Thanks for the tip

[@alexonkow]

I work as a cnc operator at a high end furniture maker and we use that same brand of double stick. It allows us to machine parts that would be otherwise impossible to hold down.

[@kirkradzwill8311]

The double sided tape I have is sold at Rockler shops. They call it "repositionable" tape. I'm not sure what brand it is but it works great. I like this video and agree with everything thing you said, except inhaling the fumes. LOL Thanks again for great content and info.

[@bnrlabs5923]

One other tip, particularly if you’re a hobby woodworker and don’t get out in the shop often enough and/or live in a hot & humid climate, keep your CA glue in an airtight container! I started keeping mine in an old mayonnaise jar with a large desiccant pack dropped in. I went from having the glue dry out in the bottle in a matter of months when it was stored in the Fastcap tote to now having the same three bottles for about a year with zero drying out.

[@larrysiebert1201]

Storing in the refrigerator is even better. Lasts for years!

[@johncole9964]

I started using the blue tape method because all of the double sided tape I bought was such a pain in the ass to use. Seeing this brand, I might give it a try.

[@Ncs1952]

Just bought a roll of the white tape, very pleased. Thank for the recommendation! Sticks like glue comes of like butter

[@jerrystark3587]

Spot on! Most people who have problems with double-sided tape have been using carpet tape. Bad idea. It is simply not made for wood working. Using wood turner's tape, or the tape you recommend, is much, much better. It costs a bit more up front, but you only cry once. With blue tape, you can be crying repeatedly thereafter when you use it for applications like the one you demonstrate here. Different jobs for different tapes. Excellent video!

[@EagleLakeWoodworking]

100% agree with everything you said.

[@GuruMat8]

The takeaway I get from this is that the double-sided tape works IF and only IF you have the RIGHT kind of double sided tape. I've seen many double sided tapes leave residue, pull fibres, etc., but it the one featured works as advertised it would be a great addition to my shop. Thanks JKM

[@rc07333]

Solid video, I typically have both in the shop, because you never know when you run out of one. lol Also super glue is nice to have to harden MDF

[@jeremygunkel]

I have been team blue tape for years.... definitely giving this brand of double sided tape a try. Thanks! Also... That accelerator does smell awesome. On their site they say it's strawberry, reminds me of strawberry car air fresheners.

[@katzmosestools]

That's what it is! I couldn't figure it out

[@theenderface7379]

I just use a couple dabs of hot glue. Cheap, easy and I don't have to worry about sawdust getting on it while it's in storage.

[@docfuzzpersonalcollection5927]

Thank you! At last not an ad for a product, but a REAL demo without all the hype! Being in a small Kansas town I have to get my woodworking products off the web...I call it 'buy-to-try'! Even the "lumber yards" are good, but they carry the basic tradesman essentials.

[@walterrider9600]

thank you Katz . good to hear the other side of the tape thing .

[@davidpisarski5620]

I have been using this brand for a while and agree with you all the way!.

[@bmedicky]

Here's a tip: when prying apart two items held together with double-sided tape, try not to pull vertically. This is what pulls fibres from the surface. Instead, try to slide the items apart parallel to each other until the tape weakens enough to release. If you have trouble, clamp one item in the bench vise while you go after the other.

[@daverichard1909]

I use that double-sided tape from Taylor all the time. I have an aluminum base plate on my Shapeoko. I use the tape to position the spoil board under the piece I'm cutting. Then clamps to hold down that piece. That way I can "put-and-take pieces. Love that tape!

[@jimbrown2604]

Very good comparison…thx

[@SmoothTurning]

I use double stick tape when woodturning. When I'm on a router table, I tend to move to a full jig with clamp downs. This is mainly because when I take classes at the local community college they have a no DS Tape rule. The reason is that students try to use it twice or more times, and suddenly things a flying. It might be interesting to see a video showing when you might not use DS Tape vs another method. Perhaps when routing chair back slats, move to a jig due to narrowness vs routing a chair arm profile with more stickable surface area? Great video as always.

[@kuffyswoodwork]

Agreed. Double sided tape is the best way. It sticks better and is easier to position templates properly.

[@cjwoodturning4832]

Great informational video

[@katzmosestools]

Thanks bud

[@cgrovespsyd]

That’s the brand I use and it works great! My fav!

[@DonsWoodies]

Been using carpet tape forever. Lately been doing the blue tape thing, but you hit every downside to that method. Just ordered some of this tape from Taytools. Yea, you convinced me.

[@genarogomez9535]

I completely agree with you! I swear by double sided tape. Good video!

[@AlexVargasPipa]

When using Double Sided Tape glue a piece to the template, peel the back-paper off and then rip the glue part of the tape without ripping the back-paper so you have always a piece of back paper longer than the glue part on the roll. That's one of the best tricks I've learner lately

[@EduardoTorresDeMadera]

Great tip!!! By the way, your videos quality and the way you deliver the information makes your channel one of my top 3 favorites. Keep up the good work.

[@katzmosestools]

I really appreciate it my friend

[@markholden1662]

I'm team double-sided-tape, but I've done both and I'll use masking tape and superglue if I'm working with a slightly uneven surface. But, why does everyone in the US seem to think we need to use blue painter's tape for everything? It costs way more than plain old masking tape, and it's primary "advantage" is clean removal after several days. If it takes you several days to cut out your pieces, then I guess that's a good thing, but for most work it's a total waste of money. You can buy brand-name 3m masking tape on Amazon, $8.04 for 1080 feet. That's $0.0074 per foot. Save the blue tape for painting walls.

[@cjoe5977]

How issues with inhalents start “oh that smells really good”

[@katzmosestools]

I keep smelling my lacquers to make sure they still make you tingly.

[@cjoe5977]

Jonathan Katz-Moses lmao

[@BiggMo]

I use primarily the carpet tape you recommend against mainly because I work with a lot of rustic and rough milled materials.

[@idiotburns]

I have doing blue tape and super 77 but man, I need double sided tape now

[@Zamboni-0805]

I am pretty new to woodworking, So I'm not arguing if the tape you used in your video is better or not. I just wanted to share this dbl sided tape that I did found on Amazon. It is pretty thin @ 0.12 millimeters and it holds wood together as good as what I saw in the video. It also is fairly cheap compared to other dlb sided tape

[@rubecountryman]

I've said the same thing for forever! Although I've used a different brand of tape, I'm going to try the kind you use and see if there's any difference.

[@showalterfamilylights]

I have the same super glue (though not the white label version) and the accelerator smells really interesting. Definitely didn't expect that when I first used it.

[@karl_alan]

You definitely have a point with the quality of the tape mattering. I am team double sided tape (although I do use blue tape for a lot of other things like masking off for finish or clamping awkward pieces), but have also been very unhappy with my results when using some brands of double stick tape. There are only a couple brands of double stick tape that I use now that reliably work well for me.

[@cheese99999]

I love these videos! JKM = the master debunker!

[@adamwilson4834]

Another great benefit to the blue tape method is when the CA glue squeezes out and glues your pieces together.

[@kevinb7540]

Clearly I have used the wrong double sided tape. Mine would not come off the wood. I'll have to get this kind and try it again. The blue tape/glue has helped me in the past too. Nice to have both options.

[@katzmosestools]

Yeah getting the good tape is a game changer

[@BronkBuilt]

Thanks for the comparison. Was great seeing you at WBC a month ago.

[@TCoulter1]

Agreed. Difficult to find though.

[@kevinhoppenworth6708]

Jonathan just noticed the front of your apron, that's going to leave a stain. :). I've been using double-sided tape for years love it!

[@TrevorDennis100]

I realised a while back that I have exactly the same apron - minus the extra pocket of course. I spend as much time standing in front of a milling machine and metal lathe as I do the table saw and router, so my apron is _really_ grubby and could do with going in the washing machine. I'm just a bit nervous about doing that though. I guess the worst that could happen is that it shrinks a wee bit, and that won't really matter.

[@josephlaviolette146]

I agree 100%. I used to use A LOT of CA and activator for finishing on a lathe. Which creates fumes while it's curing. The more you are exposed to the fumes, the more sensitive you become to them. Now I try to avoid using it as much as possible. Plus tape has no shelf life. CA glue does. And good CA glue is not cheap. FWIW, I made my mind up that blue tape wasn't for me the first time I tried it. You nailed it. The alignment issue is annoying, and squeeze out can ruin your project.

[@katzmosestools]

I don't know why people get all excited about it.

[@rolandkuhn9066]

I create intarsia pieces and agree 100 percent. Odd shapes are hard to line up and in intarsia there is nothing but odd shapes and small pieces. I temporarily mount many small pieces to sanding shims and the tape holds so well and alignment isn't an issue. Leaves no residue. Tape for me all the way.

[@MrMackanno]

Using Blue tape in this kind of application is the typical example of cheap people spending more time, money and resources so they can "save money"buy not having to buy a different tape. Great video, btw.

[@FredMcIntyre]

Thanks for the info Jonathan! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

[@jamartin1]

I agree!

[@X3WorkshopDesigns]

Having used both methods, I prefer the double-sided tape method. The blue tape method I only use whenever I run out of ds tape. Great stuff and Bob Smith spray. We used it back in the day when I did custom interiors for private jets.

[@marshallmurrell4583]

I went to the blue tape method because I couldn't find an acceptable double sided tape. The HD where I shopped had only a very thick double sided tape which really was not suitable. It also left a sticky residue. I'll try your favorite brand now. Thanks for the information.

[@GP-MB-Baden-WurttembergDeutsch]

I like your video and time is money. The Accelerator you using it I ordered online about a week ago,the accelerator is very good one. you doing a very good work ;)

[@jeffkowalski4936]

Never used the blue tape but considered using it because everyone on you tube does. I’ve always used double stick. I just can’t see blue tape holding while using pattern bits and such. Most times I can’t get the blue to stick to raw wood very well.

[@JkCanvas]

very insightful. Thank you for sharing.

[@tomsmith3045]

Cool video. Never thought that anyone would make their own double sided tape. Maybe if you were on the space station, and had to do woodworking, and had lots of blue tape and super glue and no blue tape. Now that I think about it, I would never be considering any of these thoughts if I weren't trapped inside for the last month.

[@bonenfant96]

I'm convinced.

[@AngieWilliamsDesigns]

I have to admit that I use both and I've wondered if I'm really saving any money with the blue tape. Especially considering that you do use more. And the cost of CA glue. I've not found a great double sided tape that I like though. I will give this stuff a try. The one I'm using will pull fibers from my piece if I'm not careful. But it's not intended for woodworkers. And yeah... I've got that CA glue and accelerator. Does smell good.

[@NWGR]

Thanks for this! I agree the double sided tape is the more efficient method when clamping down templates isn't an option, or for one-off projects. Grabbing a couple of rolls from taytools! Thanks again and stay safe!

[@68RedDragonz]

I prefer the dbl sided tape. It's what I started with, works great, and is a much simpler and quicker process. Rotate the piece to remove vs trying to pull straight up. About the accelerant, used that in modelling way back, stuff we used smelled like root beer... mmmm..... ;)

[@kinkjarfold3816]

You sold me on this brand of double-sided tape.

[@katzmosestools]

It is really awesome!

[@Dgreencouch29]

Yep, McMaster Carr carries essentially the same paper double stick tape - works great

[@jonharvey3908]

I've been using carpet tape for quite a while. Works well but a major pain to remove. I'm trying the double-sided tape on my next project.

[@Sebastopolmark]

VERY WELL SAID! !! !!! Yes, D S Tape is better BUT keep the blue tape method in the back of your mind, if you are in a pinch.

[@billedis5482]

Thank you Sir, you have made a believer out of me.

[@johnc6440]

I found with double-sided tape that the residue is very difficult to remove. That may be because of the grade of tape I use. I tried the blue tape method some months ago and have since only used it - I am truly sold. I still use double-sided tape, but only in my handcraft work where I want the adhesion to be long term

[@katzmosestools]

I would give a different brand a try. game changer. Cheers

[@andrewbrown8148]

Great tip-vid, Jon~! Thanks~!

[@shannondolese3383]

I combine the two methods. I found that using small pieces of DS Tape and blue tape on both pcs works great to hold the part in position and is much easier for removal leaving no residue on the wood.

[@soberlivingwithbrianfrankl8254]

Agreed

[@gregsettle1581]

Thanks for a great video comparing these two hold-down methods. I was already on the "double-sided tape" side of the fence, but your video just solidified this decision even more. So, I clicked on you link below to buy some tape, but then found myself a bit confused. In your video, it is clear that the samples of tape you are showing are Intertape brand rolls, and I am assuming #591. Yet, when I click on the link you provided, it is showing another brand of tape with the "Made in the USA" stamp on the inside of the roll. I have never seen this on any Intertape rolls of tape. Can you please clarify this? Thank you!

[@Pietbel]

Curious for this aswell. Do you have any information about this Jonathan? The webshop provided does not ship to my place, so I am 'doomed' to get the same product somewhere else

[@marceloandrade225]

Great!

[@garyoa1]

Certainly not the way I did it. Just used masking tape. Put down... say a 5 inch piece and do not cut it off the roll. Fold it over to meet the start of the other end. Fold a half inch or so and stick it to itself. If you need to hold it down tighter, scotch tape the sides down. Of course, then they invented double sided tape and that was the end of that process. :) But if you run out, it's still a viable option and a lot cheaper and no glue involved.

[@TrevorDennis100]

Tape is one of those things you can't stop yourself adding to your basket when browsing your DIY store. I have dozens and dozens of rolls of tape. I could never buy another roll and never run out, but I'll still be buying more because I can't help myself.

[@malonecustomdesigns]

So now I need double-sided tape in my shop!

[@clydebalcom8252]

I've got to agree. I also prefer a one step system.

[@lobitome]

I happen to prefer carpet tape, because it does hold great when routing pieces. Personal preference, like those who prefer the blue tape method. To each their own.

[@AnoopKhetani]

Justice is served.

[@supergimp2000]

I'm with you 100%. The Blue Tape Trick is for when you run out of double sided tape.

[@timh7156]

Ca glue and accelerator is expensive plus toxic to breathe and touch. It’s messy and you have to apply three different things, have three different things on your bench and the whole process takes longer. I’ll save the glue for gluing wood and repairs. The painter’s tape work great for painting.

[@angrypat7398]

Blue tape and glue Always works for me d

[@HandlebarWorkshops]

I think Ben Crowe at Crimson Guitars is the first person I ever saw doing the blue/masking tape method, and he uses patterns A LOT for cutting and routing guitar bodies. He has the blue tape method down to a science. Check out his channel on how to do it so it doesn't fail. The biggest thing is to burnish the tape to both pieces for maximum adhesion. My personal experience with double sided tape is that it is either too strong, or not strong enough. In most cases, the blue tape is strong enough without being too sticky. So I can quickly and easily get the pieces apart after I'm done. If you ever see me use the router table in videos on my channel, you will notice there are a couple of oopsies in the router plate rabbet. That's because the double sided tape gave out on me and my template moved.

[@wcody777]

Great video Jonathan, I bought the tape from your link before the video was over. And I'm sure you've heard before that you not only look like, but sound like, Jimmy Kimmel (one of my favorite comedians.) Back in the mid-50s, (that's 19-) my dad would clean the contacts on our TV channel tuner. (You remember: CRT, vacuum tubes.) He used an ink eraser (remember the trapezoidal pink pencil/white ink erasers we all used in elementary school?) and carbon tetrachloride. He'd take a rag soaked with the carbontet and wipe it on the contacts, let it sit about 5 min., remove the carbon build-up with the ink eraser, then wipe off any residue or eraser fibers with a clean cloth. I would be right next to him the whole time watching carefully, because by the time he was done I was high as a kite. Ah, the good old days. (Remember painting small closets with oil paint and no ventilation? Man, the primitive ways we got high.) Keep up the great videos, my man.

[@chrishb7074]

3:41. Just answered your own question why people like the blue tape method. Is there any difference in how different finishes take to the wood after using CA or rubber adhesives? Does the surface need cleaning with acetone or white spirit?

[@SpencleyDesignCo]

Great video Jonathan! Let the great debate begin! 😜

[@katzmosestools]

I haven't seen any blue tape fans chime in yet. hmmmmmmm

[@David_K_Dickson]

@@katzmosestools I am not a blue-tape fan, but I do use that trick with ordinary white masking tape and it works for me. Also, to see the case FOR the masking tape and superglue trick, see kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5OZgaaPaciarck

[@kevinxxx8093]

You have a SawStop, premium saw blades, squares that may cost $100 each, etc. Somehow I can’t see that a roll of double-sided tape will break your bank. ;)

[@bouhunter6176]

I vote D\F Tape

[@tohrazul]

Personally, I don't do enough woodworking where I've ever had to consider buying DS tape specifically for using with various templates or jigs, so I've used blue tape simply because it's something I already had because I use it for various things. I also am rarely in such a hurry that i can't lay out my template exactly where I want it and make a few pencil lines so I can figure out exactly where I need to line up my tape. I also don't use a super glue accelerator for the same reason - I can wait a couple of minutes for the glue to dry. Perhaps this means I'm using the wrong super glue, but I'm a casual maker, not a professional, and I don't need to have these things finished in time frames where saving 2 or 3 minutes during projects that are already going to take multiple days has any real meaning to me. This is not a knock against DS tape, it just doesn't make sense for me right now to buy it as a single-use item (until I can find other uses for it) compared to using things I already own in abundance and use with a multitude of projects of different types.

[@fb510m]

no argument here; totally agree double stick tape better than the blue tape trick. good vid!

[@Psychlist1972]

I've used both. I like the blue tape, especially on the CNC router, because it comes off easily and cleanly after the job is done. You also want full or close to full coverage, regardless of tape type, to hold loose pieces without having to leave a tab. Cost was never a consideration for me. I've never heard anyone use cost as the reason. I'll try the one you recommend, because the others I've used (sold as good tape for CNC machines and woodworking) absolutely do rip up fibers and are a PITA to remove. Similarly, the accelerator I've used doesn't stain the wood. Maybe the stuff that makes yours smell good also stains? :)

[@BPerry-vz8dw]

Did you end up trying it? How did it compare to the blue tape method?

[@drayx777]

The only thing I'm going to argue with you about is that you should've hit the template one more time at 05:53

[@xerogear]

Blue tape for life! 😆

[@andrewwebb6270]

@5:54 I am very upset this wasn't a full shave and a haircut. One more hit man.. one more. But seriously I thoroughly enjoyed this video

[@mikecurtin9831]

Thanks very much for the tip. Thumbs up to crush a troll.

[@BrianThorstad]

Fantastic...I've been looking for good double sided tape, I tossed your buds at Tay Tools an order.

[@jonathandavies3288]

With you all the way with that one, Jonathan! I've used the blue tape trick myself and run up against all the same problems. The first time that I used double sided to secure a template for routing, I was sure it would creep. If you buy decent stuff it's as reliable as a G clamp!

[@davetarrant6888]

Agreed double sided tape is the better solution.

[@kenmoon5685]

Good stuff-as is ALL your great videos! BTW...I really like your small workbench!! I would really like to make that...did you do a previous video on that? Thanks!

[@katzmosestools]

Yes. I have 2 moxon vise videos. Cheers

[@thomasarussellsr]

Yeah, just remember to wipe oily woods down with your preferred cleaner (denatured alcohol, turpentine...etc.) before trying any tape method.

[@laxing77]

Which ones in particular?

[@elbenaso]

great vid! do you know where I could find the double sided tape here in Europe? Thanks

[@wheels2757]

I use the same brand of double sided tape and had it pull the veneer off my plywood...