Double The FPS Of Your AMD RYZEN Hand-Held With Fluid Motion Frames

[@kevinbrewer8868]

This works on the z1 Ally if you download the R5 7540u (740m) drivers!!! Cyberpunk 720p low/medium native runs 60-90fps! Destiny 2 runs 720p @ 75-120fps Jedi: fallen order ran 55-100fps at 720p medium w/epic draw distance. I am loving this performance!!!!!! Thanks for this amazing video.

[@MR.MUGGTv]

could you explain which exact one to download because i see alot of r5 drivers

[@SevenPilot]

THANK YOU

[@RebelGamer01]

You have rog ally extreme ör normal?

[@cso027]

My Legion GO is arriving in a few hours today, after a few tweaks I think I'll try FMF, cheers!

[@Erroneous91]

I believe you need the Lossless scalling app to do this on LeGo

[@rickc4459]

How is it?

[@teothegr8688]

How’d it go?

[@ChristopherToro]

The whole “Do not use armoury crate overlay” is a deal breaker for me personally. Whenever Asus implements FSR 3 to the ROG Ally officially, I’ll definitely try it out. 👍

[@redrockrabbitk6078]

Agreed, love my ally to bits but even with fine tuning fsr looks good 😮

[@PriestPoppy]

This is not FSR3, FSR3 is implemented in games, this is AMD FMF (fluid motion franes) they both generate frames but in very different ways.

[@Medeci]

Bro what are u talking about

[@mattbobjim911]

@@PriestPoppy yeah man that's why he's saying he would wait for fsr3 and not use this.

[@PriestPoppy]

@@mattbobjim911 he said "Asus implements FSR3" so he clearly meant "Asus pushes the AMD FMF drivers". Asus doesn't implement FSR3, game devs do.

[@agnody1]

Personally I loved this driver update. I played through Arkham knight on 1080p high textures and filtering at 70-90fps. It’s crazy and a complete game changer for some games

[@vncube1]

Hi ETA, the metric "Frame Gen Lag" is not very descriptive and brings the video into question: we don't know if it represents total latency or the latency added specifically by frame generation. Please clarify this as the disadvantages of frame generation (DLSS or FSR) are amplified with lower powered GPUs.

[@chuyh01]

You can look up amds software with descriptions of what they mean. Idk what more you want. Google is free

[@vncube1]

@@chuyh01 "Google is free" = "ETA's video might be useless to APU users if he can't explain or doesn't understand the metric himself" That's the point of my comment.

[@const3llations_370]

dont expect him to ever get actually in depth in any of his videos. He barely scratces the surface

[@jneo8808]

Well if you look at the metric graph you can see both Avg latency and Frame gen latency there...if that's what you meant.

[@anddo24]

Great stuff ETA! I'm playing Infinite Wealth at well over 90fps (outdoors) and hitting over 120+ FPS (indoors) on Medium settings. The Ally comes in handy for side content, dungeons and such.

[@parmeetsingh3444]

Thankyou so much bro first i was getting about 50-60 fps in gta v but now i am getting about 135 fpss definately worth it btw loving your videos ❤❤

[@Jbearzy]

Fmf even with a good base frame rate has always felt very floaty to me. That 40-60 range feels better than 80-100 with fmf. For me at least.

[@Gabilleta]

After trying it on my ROG Ally, it's not perfect BUT it does work very well and it does provide 20% to 50% frame improvements depending on the game and TDP. The Frame Lag isn't that bad, but again, your mileage may vary.

[@sagriz88]

Hi. Just to confirm, you are not facing any ghosting right?

[@vssgamess]

@@sagriz88there’s a lot of choppiness on my sice

[@SilverWolfPL]

In Spiderman as You showed You can see that AFMF does not work when moving camera. IMO Lossless Scaling is a much better option - less issues, works when with camera movement, can be used with almost everything including KZbin videos.

[@joecasarole8676]

Just wanna say thank u for this video made a huge difference some games never looked as good as they do now appreciate u ty

[@SnooZeGamezZz]

What's the difference between AMD fluid motion and FSR 3 frame generation? Is it the same tech just a driver toggle to allow it in games that haven't added it in?

[@jenous736]

@@SnooZeGamezZz fsr3 is a game feature in limited no of games while amd fluid motion is a driver features application in all the games

[@julianp.2840]

Thanks for this! I couldn't get it to work but I had armory crate open. FF7 Remake at 15 TDP running 45-100 fps. With VRR it's smooth. Super happy. Lag doesn't affect play this game but getting up to 50 m/s

[@snoopdog2704]

5:05 Why did u pick AMD RADEON (TM) 780 than AMD Radeon (TM) 780 graphics ?

[@stephenj37824]

@ETAPRIME 8840U supports H.A.G.S. which helps afmf . Hopefully 7840u will have H.A.G.S. enabled soon as well.

[@WuFluChan]

What’s funny is it used to be available on the 7840u the option only went away probably 4 or 5 months ago

[@mgl2708]

The thing with a handheld is that a little more input lag is not the worst because the thing has little to no input lag in first place. Having peripherals and a monitor externally connected always adds natural input lag which is essentially not existent on a hanheld All im saying is that any handheld is perfect for frame gen because it combats it's only downside (input lag) atleast to a noticeable extent.

[@MrAxelStone]

How the heck have I been watching you for years and only noticing tonight I wasn't even subscribed to you!!! Sub'd officially now lol.

[@sindhitech7755]

I don't have any kind of these handhelds but i love to watch your videos

[@bandzzman1224]

Been using it with cod mw3 on my ROG ALLY its great

[@joshsmith1492]

Handhelds are the future of laptops

[@robertlawrence9000]

Awesome video! This will help sell more gaming handhelds for sure!

[@carwynvan]

Cheers! I'm going to apply this to my Minis forum EM680, a few games it's struggled with that this should really help with

[@TheGamingCirclePodcast]

Question: How do you get past the handhelds with Portrait displays; like the AOKZoe A1 Pro or the Legion Go? They seems to not work with AFMF because the display shows Landscape (flipped) I've heard some may have solved it but I haven't seen any proper tutorial

[@dragneel2249]

Also wondering about this

[@AllKidsOutNow]

Legion Go does not support this as far as I know...

[@LVNeptune]

@@AllKidsOutNow pretty sure there’s multiple videos available showing the Legion Go with AFMF enabled.

[@AllKidsOutNow]

@@LVNeptune unless maybe you side load drivers. The legion go does not support afmf because the LCD is native portrait. That's why Lenovo is taking so long to update the drivers on their end.

[@mrkntk]

ASUS has just announced ROG Ally will be updated to support

[@tsahiv]

FMF doees not work on LEGION GO at all due to the screen orientation. Not sure why u are saying it does.

[@4ddrewgaming773]

Just applied it and saw Tiny Tina go from 48 fps to 100 fps. Even though fluid motion latency is N/A

[@deshawnwillams2397]

I just reset my Asus rog ally and was about to sell it tomorrow, gonna try this out and test it out

[@HitmonD]

Bruh you'll regret that don't be so quick to hate something you spent hundreds of dollars on. Toy with it and get your preferences

[@Anomalyy666]

Why?

[@AndresMorales94]

I can’t find my I have oxp mini pro with Ryzen 7 6800U with 680M

[@jackykwan2580]

Just spend $6 to get lossless scaling problem solved. Its very easy to use and works with emulator. A 30fps stable is all u need to let them bump it to 60. So now its possible to enjoy elden ring at 20w for constant 60fps.

[@Heythisismychannel]

I LOVE THIS!! I have been making videos on my g14 which has 780M. and I have frame gen with that as well!!

[@mosthated8848]

Really appreciate it the tutorial on how to do this fin try this on my Rog/GO.

[@MIleHighCoD970]

Thanks brother, you just doubled my performance in RE4 and cyberpunk.... thanks

[@keenynthewise]

Any latency or lagging?

[@MtFoxt]

​@@keenynthewise yeah not that much though, any framegen will introduce some lag, just don't use this for competitive game and you're gucci

[@ns-tech1304]

@@MtFoxt Just enable antilag, it makes it ALOT better

[@const3llations_370]

he didnt do shit. lmfao

[@tuqe]

“The best driver stack I’ve seen so far”

[@boominfree7408]

Dum question will this work on og steam deck?

[@ronc4752]

Not dumb I was bout to ask the same question 😂

[@brianpicou9615]

I think only if you have windows installed. But on the Linux side, it won’t work

[@boominfree7408]

@@brianpicou9615 thx just got one last week so I’m learning got some emulation working (Can’t get ps2 to work yet) And it’s got a bad pixel and won’t turn on from sleep mode I’m thinking of returning it to GameStop 🤦

[@HeyWOOL]

It could work since the frame gen happens on a driver-level. What we need is a implementation for Linux. That is what amd/valve has to deliver.

[@Saif0412]

Frame Gen doesn't work well on most games on Steam Deck, stutters due to drops and inconsistent, probably because RDNA 2.

[@fadelfarhan123]

so i decide to try it and in this steps 7:40 i cant enabled it says "performance metric setup failed" "In order to enable tracking of all performance metrics, acceptances to User Access Control (UAC) changes are required. Changes to metrics will apply after a reboot."

[@danboultonuk1]

I had the same message, i tried a thousand times and couldn’t get it to work. I even tried disabling uac in windows… did you find a fix?

[@Berd95]

Oh isn‘t it a wonderful day, the first Day of the fourth Month of the Year? A Day that has some kind of tradition some say

[@Leopez02]

Asus Rog Ally, AyaNeo Slide, Onexplayer mini pro 7, Lenovo Legion Go and Steam Deck Oled are The 5 Best Handheld Gaming Pcs in my opinion. I would love to buy and a try Asus Rog Ally Z1 Extreme or Onexplayer mini pro 7 what are that costs I can buy Asus Rog Ally as a 584€ and Onexplayer mini pro 7 as a 587€. I love handheld gaming pcs. Happy Easter everyone! 😊❤

[@donniedarko4497]

The Tomb is empty 🙏

[@gatway100]

Thank you so much for your guide.It's crazy how.When a windows update can mess anything up from either side and thank you again for the video and helping out our community

[@brianpicou9615]

For legion go owners, this won’t work as the screen is native portrait. They’re looking into it but no guarantee that it will come in the future. So for higher fps, for the moment, I just recommend using lossless scaling

[@donniedarko4497]

I heard somebody else mentioned losslessscaling is this an option that can work for steam deck as well

[@brianpicou9615]

@@donniedarko4497 I’m not sure actually. I had the steam deck first and then more recently the legion go, and I’ve only heard of and got lossless scaling since I got the legion go. Considering the way you have to get it to run, I’d imagine you wouldn’t be able to do it natively on the steam deck unless you have windows

[@cefrio]

intresting, i just got a Legion Go, how do i get/use lossless scaling? thx

[@CarpeDiemsNuts]

It's on Steam for about $6​@@cefrio

[@TechManDanN]

@@cefriofrom the steam store it’s 6.99 I believe

[@xxxxxx-mb9lz]

Hey ETA, I just want to know can you Test Lossless Scaling on ROG Ally? Thank You

[@santiagod5482]

Friend, thank you so much for this video, you don't know how

[@sc9433]

Does the "SuperResolution" on the amd panel works together with "AFMF" to give you even better frame rates?

[@sinanko-no1lb]

Does this work with Legion go's native portrait screen ? I read many posts and it does not work for legion go. Then this title might be misleading for those who owns Legion go

[@icywinds1083]

On an Ayaneo which also have portrait display it only works when there are no overlay at all. Even using AMD overlay will disable it. Also the AMD overlay will render as of the display was rotated so it is quite annoying to use (this was on the February AMD driver not the newest one from March). How to tell if AFMF is working w/o any overlay you ask? Well, it does look smoother and you can see some visual artifacts due to the Interpolated frames. I used it with Starfield before FSR3 was released for that game. Needless to say FSR3 is clearly superior.

[@christofelmauri4386]

Hey there bro thanks for the guide . So i have a question , i just finished installing this and somehow i got an update option from armor create to update the amd radeon graphic driver ? So should i just ignore this one ? You mentioned earlier about not using armoury create overlay ? The overlay you said was it the real time monitor on command center or what ? Can we still update all on armoury create like usual ? Sorry for the dumb question because i’ve never played on pc before and i just got my ally for a few weeks now 🙏🙏 Thank you in advance for responding 🙏 If you can elaborate more details or tips on what i shouldn’t do to maximize the fluid motion that would be so much appreciated

[@mylifematter]

Tried to install the AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition on the Legion Go, it's a no Go due to "error 182". But I did manage to updated the driver and installed the little Adrenalin package.

[@mosthated8848]

Were you able to get the frame generation to work?

[@tuananhle4099]

Do you have LegionGo? Does AFMF on LegionGo work?

[@GodSonBlessed]

This is a benefit of amd and valve working together on the steam deck. Every other handheld using a ryzen/radeon benefits as well.

[@Cheffy_otto]

This ia also a game changer for the lenovo legion go 👌🏻

[@mattgameplay6477]

Did you get it to work for you?

[@Leonardo_Robles]

No need to select 780m, you can use AMD Radeon Graphics

[@srvuk]

Such technologies are hopefully only going to add value to the experience as they become perfected and are often scoffed at by most reviewers. Looking at the Spider-Man demo though, the advance was quite minor. The other vital aspect not mentioned of course is that you also need a monitor with the appropriate refresh rate to take advantage of anything over 60fps, which is often neglected in reviews. I would also like to have some real world stats with regards to exactly what latency can be expected when playing online competitive games (I'm glad that Esports wasn't mentioned as you cant call anything done whilst sitting on your fat backside on a sofa anything close to a sport).

[@synthetic25]

Hey, there is no option for processor with graphics.

[@NathanHoskins-d8f]

Hey ETA Prime. Thanks again for another fantastic ROG Ally video. I was wondering if you could help me? I cannot get this to work with minecraft? I was hoping I would be able to use fluid motion frames to boost my FPS in minecraft while using a texture pack.

[@OptimisticTechHub]

Tried death stranding. Playing very convenient

[@TechManDanN]

Can I use these same steps with the legion go?

[@transalchemy785]

Yes.. I got it installed on my legion Go..

[@TechManDanN]

@@transalchemy785appreciate it but the amaf doesn’t work with the go right? I’ll have to continue to use lossless scaling? Or did they fix it?

[@TechManDanN]

Just did it successfully I’m going to try some games right now specifically dragon dogma 2 to see if it’s any performance difference

[@MrMushromm]

I followed up with these step by step it still doesn't work on my lenovo go. Might be I missed some things?

[@DanielMajchrzak]

Information about Legion Go is misleading - Fluid Motion Frames is not working with portrait mode display for now.

[@bobbydigital18]

thats what i was wondering

[@DaProjectGaming]

I just tried on my legion go and it doesn’t work, the whole overlay window goes into portrait mode and there is no extra frames

[@bobbydigital18]

Thanks, guess I'll wait @@DaProjectGaming

[@DaProjectGaming]

The best option right now is the lossless scaling, I also tried the mod from lukefz (paid mod) and I can’t make it work on dragons dogma 2. Lossless scaling works just fine in all the games I tried

[@michaeliovani4487]

Use lossless scaling which is better than AFMF.

[@drcatnip5260]

Does anyone know if it works with a Radeon 680m

[@MarcosMoraleda]

It Will work on the Steam Deck anywhere soon? Ana oficial update? Or something?

[@hectore4106]

Does this work on the non extreme Z1?

[@ness8483]

@@hectore4106 x2

[@michahojwa8132]

there are lukefz fsr3 mods - doubling from 37 gives nice 70fps, work way better than afmf and it works in dynamic mode - the game lowers resolution to achieve needed fps.

[@basharkalb8001]

That's amazing bro

[@sirdromos2769]

Is this the same for rog ally x ?

[@forcepalmproductions9158]

Is this better than FSR3?

[@exoterra5523]

i tried this on legion go but my overlay is sideways. is there any way i can fix that?

[@jakestech2739]

Same for me, I turn on frame generation in settings but when I get in a game the overlay is sideways and frame gen lag says N/A

[@piotrekpaul]

5:05 - are you sure we need to pick the "AMDRadeon (TM) 780M" and not "AMDRadeon (TM) 780M Graphics"?

[@rolandcruz4786]

I also have the same question ❤

[@piotrekpaul]

you have to use "AMDRadeon (TM) 780M Graphics" as the one mentioned in the clip doesn't have Fluid Motion Frames enabled@@rolandcruz4786

[@titantim]

I'm wondering for the devices that have 60hz screens if it'll help it keep a steady 60fps without adding too much latency due to less frames needing to be inserted.

[@heartdyedpurple]

Not sure about this app, but using frame generation using the Lossless Scaling app, if your frames exceed half the refresh rate, it actually makes it look worse, like choppy frames.

[@andresvaldevit3692]

Does it work on the Steam Deck too or just Windows based hand helds?

[@screweduprevi5641]

if you have windows installed. if not you need a linux base download

[@Glutz636]

Does this work with the non extreme

[@razerglop]

Would frame gen work with a larger rig for vr gaming ? Getting free frames would be super useful for that

[@mistikella]

Why did you not just extract the files normally from the regular right click and instead downloaded 7zip for it?

[@nguyenquanavi]

Can we do some fps lock with this feature to lower power usage?

[@diegomunmir]

I follow the steps and cant get work this on helldivers 2 or any game. FPS show N/A all the time :(

[@L1N3B3CK]

Same here

[@L1N3B3CK]

Same here

[@MrFlashpan]

Will this work on my voodoo 3DFX card? 🤣

[@donniedarko4497]

Hey you stole my joke! I commented about my voodoo 3 3D FX card on this channel last week 😊 and some Indian guy replied with a super technical analysis of why what I asked was impossible 😆

[@MrFlashpan]

@@donniedarko4497your probably +50 y/old to remember 🤣

[@donniedarko4497]

@@MrFlashpan lol nahh but I was about 10 when it was a popular card I used in my Pentium 900 Mhz PC😆

[@jaimepadron8863]

Hey ETA, Do you know if this feature would be available in the future without installing AMD drivers? like Asus would include this directly?

[@landoftheyouth]

Asus mentioned adding it at some point.

[@onlysupport6969]

Does it work from fps 30 to 60? I think this actually much more useful 😅

[@melxb]

agreed, well what I'd want to do is crank the graphics as much as i can and then use framegen to gain some fps back if they are too low dropping below 30

[@MarginalSC]

@@melxb That'd just make it play like a brick.

[@armandcharbonnier2702]

Hey ETA PRIME, nice video as usual. I installed the latest AMD driver as you explained but my AMD overlay seems to be broken and I don't see why. I display N/A for both Frame Gen Lag and FPS counter which is weird. I tried couple games in full screen, no VSync as you said. Tried to reinstall and reboot, nothing changes. Maybe I'm using GHelper and AC. Maybe there is.a conflict somewhere ? (RivaTuner & AC Metrics displays the FPS counter properly, I don't know if it's possible to display FML in Rivatuner)

[@SevenPilot]

How does the process change when using the non-extreme Z1 ROG Ally?

[@gee70usa]

Will this work on the amd Z1 Rog Ally?

[@not_so_native_native]

Maybe i missed this, but does anti lag do anything to the latency?

[@millagramnavy]

thank I needed this video

[@bahamut505ci]

I have a minisfoum hx99g and it did not play well with fmf on my Sony x85k it was super stuttery and tearing, but once I connected it to a monitor it started working just fine. It was so bad I was seriously considering returning my hx99g, I’m still not happy about the io on the hx99g, what they don’t tell you is the usb4 ports on the back only connect to the igpu, if they connected with the dgpu there would be no need for fmf and I wouldn’t even bother with it. In the end fmf is what keeps me from returning my hx99g.

[@TheNewGamePluss]

Quick question, I have a laptop with a R7 7840HS. When I did the update from amd (Didn’t pick the big file) will this work for my laptop? I’m using a legion slim 5 with 7840HS. I ask because when I manually update the driver I was getting clack screen and I needed to switch to dgpu and remove the drivers. Quick update: I follow this video and ai was able to update my Lenovo Legion Slim 5 with the R7 7840HS and it works for both the drivers and the Adrenaline!

[@lion423am7]

Just get geforce now and play at 4k 120 docked and 1080 120 handheld max settings worth the money if you game alot on this at home

[@Tb0n3]

I sure do hate fake frames. They'll never convince me that my frame rate has actually increased when all they're doing is making shit up. Improve the hardware and you get more frames. turn the settings down and you get more frames.

[@elgorditobonito4980]

@Tb0n3 I mean it does work and can noticed.

[@M4r10h]

Does not work in Ryzen 6800u devices, tested in AokZoe A1, GPD winmax2 and Onexplayer mini pro 6800u. The AMD fluid motion Frames setting does not show up even after clean driver install

[@jamblesm7949]

Hi! You mentioned that this option can be used on rdna2? How can I enable this on 6800U/680M? Thanks!

[@Spinner1ist]

I think there's no support for 6800u sadly

[@Paki-san]

I have the Ayaneo Air Plus with the 6800u but there is no Frame Generator, too bad.

[@akonako364]

Frame gen only available on Radeon RX7000/700M series APU's above.

[@Denver_tld]

Hi there, I just want to point out because of the current state of afmf not working on any handheld with a portrait screen the tittle is innacurate. it only works with the ally at the moment just so save all these other lads some time out there, I doubt there will be a title change specially if the intent was fully aware but click magnetising anyways.

[@bobbydigital18]

With the legion go being prtrait display, most games wil have windowed or windowed fullscreen, I wonder how this will work

[@mosthated8848]

Try it report back, thanks!

[@bobbydigital18]

@@mosthated8848 apparently someone has on the legion and it does not work yet. I’ll wait until legion implements it

[@Rudizel]

I don’t understand if this is the case then why would asus not make this a default thing? There has to be a reason why, maybe to sell people the next gen one and claim better performance?

[@jakestech2739]

As far as I can tell this does NOT WORK ON LEGION GO. Following the install everything works and I get the fluid frame option enabled in games, but trying to play anything the amd overlay goes sideways because its a portrait display and FRAME GEN LAG always show N/A. Hopefully this gets working soon

[@GurpsSingh01]

Is it the same for Legion Go?

[@InsurancePlz]

My Ally shows 780M and 780M Graphics which do i choose?

[@Hussaini786_]

Didnt work for RDR2 for me. Frame Gen is showing as N/A and i made sure to have full screen mode and vsync OFF

[@goldenboy11788]

Tried your method just now with my Legion Go. Everytime I launch a game (Ive tried dishonored, fallen order, rpcs3), the overlay flips into portrait mode, and looks distorted too. I also made all my games Fullscreen and VSYNC OFF, still N/A on Fluid Motion, and even says in the dashboard (alt+r) that "Fluid Motion is inactive. Please use Direct X 11 or 12 api" 🤔🤔

[@popofries3743]

It worked on my dirt 5. Now running on 98fps

[@Elitenemesis14]

Will this work on the ROG ally with the external GPU?

[@art-van-delay]

Can't find this option on my Ayaneo Air Plus 6800U Device. I've installed the latest Adrenaline Software version. Any Idea?

[@tentaclyalive]

Try DDU for removing all old video-drivers from windows safe-mode

[@babahanoglu]

Doesnt work on FH5 xbox version, but does work on Division 2 Epic. Thank you

[@EddiePReacts]

Is this basically the lossless scaling app?

[@fruttism9527]

Doesn't work on Dragon Dogma 2 for me. Did everything like in the instruction, full screen v-sync off.

[@Krispy_118]

Will this make Kingdom hearts 1.5 2.5 run without crashing on a legion go?

[@kawali6394]

can you please make a tutorial for this if we are running steam os or bazzite?

[@xpneuma]

I've got these installed, however for me it says inactive even though AMD says fluid motions are on?