Doug Batchelor vs. The Bible: How Matthew Refutes Adventism’s Sabbath Idol

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@jebthebear Ай бұрын

What I gathered from Doug's description of his own experience: He was never submitted to any pastoral authority and was skipping around from church to church. He was looking for a way that he could be just "a little bit better" than all the different pastors where he attended. They weren't prepared and didn't know how to answer his questions about the sabbath. He was left with the delusion that he found a way he can be "more pleasing to God" by going to church on Saturday and he found his way into a delusional cult that teaches the same thing. His entire experience is based off his own works and how "great" he is, not the grace found in true faith in Jesus. What I don't understand is how can he say with a straight face that there is no teaching about the change of the sabbath in the Bible? There are entire chapters of the new testament that deal specifically with how keeping the sabbath is not part of the new covenant: Romans 14, Colossians 2, Hebrews 4. The entire book of Galatians teaches that we are not under the law. Not to mention Jesus breaking the sabbath rules over and over. The fulfillment of rest (that is, the sabbath) through Jesus is literally a recurring theme of the entire New Testament from the Gospels, through Acts, and into the Epistles.

@theministryoflight5462 Ай бұрын

The Sabbath is part of the Lord's Ten Commandments. It has never been abolished.

@mattmurdock2868 Ай бұрын

@@theministryoflight5462 We have two (2) commands; love God and neighbor.

@Bajannubian095 Ай бұрын

@@mattmurdock2868that’s the Ten Commandments the first 4 is love for God and the other 6 is love for people (neighbors)

@mikepotter1291 Ай бұрын

@@Bajannubian095Jesus's new commandment is?

@donwhitt9899 Ай бұрын

Titus 2:11,12 "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world," Grace teaches us something, to do something, to live a certain way. It has nothing to do with human pride. Is this the grace you were referring to?

@AWW8472 Ай бұрын

Tradition is of no value, Doug? Then I guess we can throw out the tradition of believing Ellen White is a true prophet and carried the spirit of Prophecy, right? And I love hearing people like SDAs saying "that's not what we believe" or "what I believe!" not really knowing or caring what their church authorities are actually teaching.

@mixvideos3024 Ай бұрын

A prophecy about the enemy's attempt to alter God's law, including the Sabbath. Daniel 7:25 - "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law." Emphasizes the Sabbath as a sign of loyalty and relationship with God. there is no other way but to trust and obey the will of God. (Review world history who change the sabbath)

@awblanchard23 Ай бұрын

@@mixvideos3024Israel is very relevant in endtimes. It's His timepiece and Jerusalem is the minute hand and temple mount is the second hand. Christ is coming back to the Earth...to Israel...to rule, but not until the Jews at the appointed time say "baruch haba beshem Adonai" just as Jesus said THEY WILL.

@ckmanga48 Ай бұрын

On the subject of Men tradition our Lord Jesus rebuked pharisees on what???? Please read Marko 7:7-9 [7] Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. [8]For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, [9]And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. Mathew 15:7-9 [7]Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, [8]This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. [9] But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Isaya 29:13 [13] Wherefore the Lord said, For as much as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men.

@HardPumpers Ай бұрын

"Attending SDA organized church services" on Sabbath is not ever commanded in scripture...

@jtmx_217 Ай бұрын

It’s not

@melodygn Ай бұрын

Nobody says it is...

@HardPumpers Ай бұрын

@melodygn that is exactly SDAs interpretation of "Sabbath keeping" though...attend church on Saturdays, keep the tithe monies flowing into the conference coffers, and "dig even deeper" for more offerings and donations for the local church....

@melodygn Ай бұрын

@@HardPumpers no it's not.

@mixvideos3024 Ай бұрын

@jamesb6818 Ай бұрын

Happy 7 days a week eternal rest in Christ sabbath to you all.

@Mister-Wabbit Ай бұрын

What dose that mean 😂😂

@jamesb6818 Ай бұрын

@ It means we keep God’s sabbath by resting in the finished work of Christ. The Sabbath days rest was a shadow of the rest that it was pointing to, which is Christ.

@SolaScriptura21 Ай бұрын

@@Mister-Wabbit the true meaning of the Sabbath is hard to understand for those who are sick in the old covenant

@tony1685 Ай бұрын

@@jamesb6818 wrong sabbaths, you're speaking of the jewish sabbaths, which fall on various days of the week, are ceremonial and have zero to do with the weekly Holy 7th day Sabbath of Creation.

@tony1685 Ай бұрын

@@SolaScriptura21 what's hard to grasp about Matt 5:18-19, Luke 16:17 & John 14:15?

@sonjamccart1269 Ай бұрын

Doug was "into Christianity?" Didn't know that was a thing. It implies there was never an understanding of the Gospel.

@mikepotter1291 Ай бұрын

He still doesn't!

@jebthebear Ай бұрын

Exactly! Also shows that there's a distinction between "Christianity" and the SDA cult in his mind.

@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h Ай бұрын

Doug was seeking the truth.didnt you get that form his testimony ? I guess your bigotry did not let you see that.

@jeffreya.patterson6210 15 күн бұрын

God says, "Remember" - Only commandment that says "Remember". All the rest say, "Thou shalt not" 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Exodus 20:8-11 King James Version

@DamonNomad82 15 күн бұрын

@@jeffreya.patterson6210 If "all the rest say 'Thou shalt not'", then why does the Fifth Commandment say "Honor thy father and thy mother"? I don't see any "thous", "shalts", or "nots" in that commandment. If you're so unreliable on small claims like that, why should anyone listen to your larger claims?

@stever574 Ай бұрын

One gets the sense that Batchelor practices his sermons in front of a mirror.

@jeffreya.patterson6210 15 күн бұрын

@stever574 11 күн бұрын

@@jeffreya.patterson6210 Posts like yours make me pretty certain that SDAs have taken Christ off the cross and nailed the sabbath in his place...

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

THE END OF THE SABBATH LAW - What law of commandments separated Jews from Gentiles? The Law of Moses! One of those commandments was to observe the Sabbath. Ephesians 2:11-15 - Today, we are dead to the Law of Moses. That is the same law that said, 'You shall not covet' and also said, 'Remember the Sabbath day; to keep it holy.' The entire Law of Moses was nailed to the cross. Romans 7:4-7 - The only reason that we are not to covet today is because the Law of Christ commands us! Romans 13:9, Hebrews 10:1, 9 - Those who appeal to the old law make make themselves a debtor to do the whole old law. Galatians 5:2-3

@Richie2011Mr Ай бұрын

@@kac0404 If you are a preacher it’s hard to not serve to the expectation of your congregation cause you might lose your job. I rather read the Bible and put trust on it than listening to paid people. Is that make sense.

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

Oh dear, you are so wrong here. Ephesians 2 says nothing about the Sabbath. Neither Romans 7. Take me through the process of how you weave it in. This should be fun!

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

@pdub332 Oh dear, this is really easy. Both passages of scripture include the Sabbath. The Sabbath is the 4th of the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments are part of the Mosaic Law or the Law of Moses. So now, God ahead and give me the old ceremonial vs. moral law bit so I can prove that wrong as well.

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

@@kac0404 Oh dear, well you need to find a better starting point, as neither chapter mentions the Law of Moses either. Please be clear about what you are referring to from each chapter to reach your incorrect conclusions.

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

@pdub332 Oh dear, you need to learn how to read and study your Bible. You gotta still be in grade school.

@mjohnson9086 Ай бұрын

Doug said that there is no scriptures referring to the Sunday resurrection!?!? Standby…. “But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb, taking the spices they had prepared. And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they went in they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭24‬:‭1‬-‭3‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.” ‭‭John‬ ‭20‬:‭1‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb.” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭16‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28‬:‭1‬ ‭ESV‬‬ Every single gospel affirms Sunday as the day of resurrection.

@manofgod5794 17 күн бұрын

Sunday is the day of the resurrection, but which of these or other verses state that NOW the NEW holy day from the commandments is Sunday and not Sabbath?

@chromz16 Ай бұрын

The SDA don't keep the Sabbath holy as the Bible describes on how to keep it holy. So No, SDA don't practice to keep the Sabbath holy. And also EGW is a false prophet.

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

Ok pee wee. Go back and study🤨

@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h Ай бұрын

So you are the judge now? is your name JESUS? where in the Bible it says that Ellen White is a false prophet? chapter and verse.

@teamrecon2685 Ай бұрын

@@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h by that logic, Joe Biden is a prophet. Show me where he's not, chapter and verse. 🙉

@nonconformist4802 Ай бұрын

@@teamrecon2685 Valdez must be on drugs, for no sane person can speak that much rubbish in one day

@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h Ай бұрын

@@teamrecon2685 YOUR DUMB REASONING .YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD IS SICK. YOU ASK ADVENTIST TO PROVE TO PROVE ANYTHING WITH THE BIBLE.WHEN ADVENTIST ASK YOU TO PROVE THINGS WITH BIBLE VERSE.THEN THINGS CHANGE.YOU BIGOT.

@SolaScriptura21 Ай бұрын

Maybe adam worked a whole lot before the 7th day and needed that physical rest?

@awblanchard23 Ай бұрын

The 7th day was a ongoing period of "no-time" but it ended the moment Adam sinned, that's when the clock started to tick. We are smack dab in the middle of eternity where a concept called time was made by God to SAVE us from eternal damnation, because He came at the appointed time to prove God's faithfulness, sovereignty over space, time, matter (He created it all) and more than anything His Love for the sinner.

@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h Ай бұрын

GOD also rested on the Sabbath. what you call that? let me hear you BIGOT.

@Adrian_Mason Ай бұрын

I sense a war going on in you. I pray that the Light wins. @@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h

@DamonNomad82 Ай бұрын

Sadventists do with the "Sabbath" what the people of Judah did with the bronze serpent Moses made to heal the Israelites who looked at it from their snake bites. They have made it an object of worship unto itself long after it fulfilled its original purpose...

@VoiceOfTheWord316 Ай бұрын

I've always wanted to know how exact did Jesus fulfil the Sabbath. Can you explain that please?

@DamonNomad82 Ай бұрын

@@VoiceOfTheWord316 Certainly! Jesus, in establishing the New Covenant, fulfilled the promise of rest the Sabbath looked forward to by BECOMING the Sabbath Rest just as He fulfilled the promise of atonement the blood of animal sacrifices looked forward to by offering His blood on the Cross and BECOMING the final, ultimate and perfect Sacrifice. The details are found in Hebrews chapters 3 and 4.

@VoiceOfTheWord316 Ай бұрын

@@DamonNomad82 I get that part, the ceremonial sabbaths. But what about the sabbath of the 4th Commandment?

@DamonNomad82 Ай бұрын

@@VoiceOfTheWord316 "The sabbath of the 4th Commandment" and "the ceremonial sabbaths" are one and the same. The whole concept of any distinction between them is entirely an invention of the SDA, because they need to explain away the Scriptures that disprove the whole reason for their group to exist separate from Christianity in general.

@porfiriojohn5276 18 күн бұрын

12 - 27 - 24 LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS.......... SDA : Teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT ( Ellen G White May 16 , 1895 The Signs of the Times ) LDS : The father of LIES the devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus Christ ( Speaking of the devil ) SDA : The father of LIES the devil is the SDA SCAPEGOAT of Adventism LDS : Joseph Smith puts ALL his Mormon followers on Probation Eternal life ( DC 29 : 43 ) SAME AS............ SDA : Ellen G White puts ALL her Seventh day Adventist followers on Probation Eternal life ( 1T 199 year of 1859 ) Ask a Seventh day Adventist WHERE in the KJV 1611,or in the Hebrew, Aramaic or GREEK of the text do we find the terms A ) Probation B ) Probation Eternal life C ) Investigative Judgment ( Chapter and verse please ) If they don't mind Thank you in advance LDS : Joseph Smith's writings supposedly brings COMFORT SAME AS........... SDA : Ellen G Whites writings supposedly brings COMFORT LDS : Joseph Smith was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy SAME AS........... SDA : Ellen G White was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy

@RottenKiwi777 Ай бұрын

We believe the Old Testament regulations governing Sabbath observances are ceremonial, not moral, aspects of the law. As such, they are no longer in force, but have passed away along with the sacrificial system, the Levitical priesthood, and all other aspects of Moses' law that prefigured Christ. Here are the reasons we hold this view. 1. In Colossians 2:16-17, Paul explicitly refers to the Sabbath as a shadow of Christ, which is no longer binding since the substance (Christ) has come. It is quite clear in those verses that the weekly Sabbath is in view. The phrase "a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day" refers to the annual, monthly, and weekly holy days of the Jewish calendar (cf. 1 Chronicles 23:31; 2 Chronicles 2:4; 31:3; Ezekiel 45:17; Hosea 2:11). If Paul were referring to special ceremonial dates of rest in that passage, why would he have used the word "Sabbath?" He had already mentioned the ceremonial dates when he spoke of festivals and new moons. 2. The Sabbath was the sign to Israel of the Mosaic Covenant (Exodus 31:16-17; Ezekiel 20:12; Nehemiah 9:14). Since we are now under the New Covenant (Hebrews 8 ), we are no longer required to observe the sign of the Mosaic Covenant. 3. The New Testament never commands Christians to observe the Sabbath. 4. In our only glimpse of an early church worship service in the New Testament, the church met on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7). 5. Nowhere in the Old Testament are the Gentile nations commanded to observe the Sabbath or condemned for failing to do so. That is certainly strange if Sabbath observance were meant to be an eternal moral principle. 6. There is no evidence in the Bible of anyone keeping the Sabbath before the time of Moses, nor are there any commands in the Bible to keep the Sabbath before the giving of the law at Mt. Sinai. 7. When the Apostles met at the Jerusalem council (Acts 15), they did not impose Sabbath keeping on the Gentile believers. 8. The apostle Paul warned the Gentiles about many different sins in his epistles, but breaking the Sabbath was never one of them. 9. In Galatians 4:10-11, Paul rebukes the Galatians for thinking God expected them to observe special days (including the Sabbath). 10. In Romans 14:5, Paul forbids those who observe the Sabbath (these were no doubt Jewish believers) to condemn those who do not (Gentile believers). 11. The early church fathers, from Ignatius to Augustine, taught that the Old Testament Sabbath had been abolished and that the first day of the week (Sunday) was the day when Christians should meet for worship (contrary to the claim of many seventh-day sabbatarians who claim that Sunday worship was not instituted until the fourth century). 12. Sunday has not replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. Rather the Lord's Day is a time when believers gather to commemorate His resurrection, which occurred on the first day of the week. Every day to the believer is one of Sabbath rest, since we have ceased from our spiritual labor and are resting in the salvation of the Lord (Hebrews 4:9-11). www.gty.org/.../are-the-sabbath-laws-binding-on...

@mixvideos3024 Ай бұрын

Making excuses to disregard God's commandments for personal gain or relying on human understanding reflects the character of God's enemy. Such actions will only lead you away from God. The Sabbath was instituted at creation. an additional special 7th day creation. A sacred day, the seventh day, set apart for humanity. It is a sign of your relationship and loyalty to God. And the enemy despises this, which is why he introduced an alternative day of worship and attempted to alter the Ten Commandments. (Review history who change the sabbath) A prophecy about the enemy's attempt to alter God's law, including the Sabbath. Daniel 7:25 - "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law." Emphasizes the Sabbath as a sign of loyalty and relationship with God. there is no other way but to trust and obey the will of God. (Review world history who change the sabbath) Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Obedience is your light to Jesus Christ.

@awblanchard23 Ай бұрын

@@mixvideos3024actually self-righteous and trying to be made righteous by justification of salvation not by the blood of Christ alone, but in different blood...the kind called filthy rags (menstrual blood) by hoping that keeping the Law will merit you salvation...and you can't perfectly keep the Law because you fail miserably...not pure in mind 24/7 but through a corrupted fleshy human brain is in danger of becoming LUKEWARM and directly disobeys the word of God in that you are TEMPTED to look down on others WHO DONT DO AS YOU DO..and dont lie...you DO have that thought CONSTANTLY...WATERED CONSTANTLY...BTW. I'm not promoting sin...I'm BOASTING JESUS. MYSTERY to you though.

@spc4444 Ай бұрын

12 points well expressed that deserve a point-by-point refutation if someone sees differently. Looking back as a former SDA, I do wish there had been more thoughtful study on the full sabbath picture in the Bible - climaxing in the “Sabbatismos” of Hebrews 4 - which I eventually took the opportunity to do at seminary (using just the Bible, and not EGW.) Nothing wrong with attending church on the Israelite sabbath day, or observing the sabbath day of atonement (“a perpetual commandment for all generations,” Lev 23) if one’s conscience dictates (Rom 14), but beware God’s curses if the emphasis on law is sufficient to trample on the grace of God (Heb 10) and invoke His curses (Gal1,3), or if one ends up using the law to accuse Christ’s bride, since that is of the devil (Rev 12). “Sabbatismos” is what believers must strive to attain spiritually in the context of the New Covenant we are under for continuous and everlasting Sabbath rest in Christ. This is rendered difficult/impossible when the Veil of the Mosaic Law (2 Cor 3) is invoked and the temporary shadow (law/Sabbath day) remains stronger than the eternal substance (Christ/Sabbath Lord). Interesting tidbit BTW - while SDA associates “the change of times and law” with Christians gathering on the Lord’s Day and the devil, it does not consider in the same way its’ own changing of “times and law” as to when the Sabbath day starts/ends (fixed 6pm Fri to 6pm Sat, then fluid sunset Fri to sunset Sat). Thankfully, no Christian accuses SDA of apostasy for that 😊 Blessings to all, keep the faith ✌🏻

@FraeDen Ай бұрын

1. How can the seventh day sabbath be a shadow? The sabbath of the seventh day was instituted For the benefit of men before sin came into the world. The institution of the sabbath had nothing to do with salvation so it cannot be a shadow. 2. The sabbath was a sign of Gods covenant made with Israel at Sinai. This covenant was none other than the preceding covenants. It promised righteousness by faith. It was not thus received by the people who responded not by faith but by their own promise to obey God.(Ex. 19:8). The promise of the people is called the old covenant. Paul called it ‘faulty’ (Hebr. 8). God is perfect and His Law is perfect (Rom 7:12, 14; Psalm 19). So the ‘faulty’ does not refer to Gods promise neither to His law. The old covenant (the faulty promise of the people) put them under the law; under full obligation to obey the law in their own strength. This resulted in being under the dominion of sin (Rom 6:14). God intended them to keep the sabbath as a sign of their faith in hIs creative and redemptive power by which they would be enabled to live the covenant relationship expressed in the ten commandments; a relationship of love to God and men. 3. The NT commands to keep Gods Law. 4. The first day of the week started after sunset on the evening of the sabbath when the disciples prepared a meal because they were hungry. During this first day Paul worked hard. He preached during the night and went on his journey at sunrise. 5. Read Matt. 28:20. Jesus taught the disciples to keep His commandments (Christ is the lawgiver who spoke the ten words on Mt Sinai). There was never any contention between Jews and Christians concerning the sabbath. This is a convincing proof for the fact that Christians kept the sabbath. 6. Read Ex. 16 it was forbidden to gather or prepare manna on the sabbath day. God made the seventh day holy meaning He set it apart for a special purpose. he blessed this period of time. Why would He wait for thousands of years to tell men what He had done for them,at creation? Makes no sense. 7. They did not had to because it was a fundamental teaching. (Matt 28:20). 8. Paul taught them to keep the commandments. (Rom 6, Rom 8:4 and Ezk 36:25-27) 9. He is talking about shadows. The 7th day is not a shadow. (See 1.) 10. That is what you are reading into the text. 11. Stay with the Bible. 12. Resurrection is commemorated by baptism. The cross exceeds the resurrection day in importance. Why not celebrate friday?

@kimartist Ай бұрын

@@FraeDen "... or a Sabbath day. These are but a shadow of what was to come, but the reality is found in Christ." ~ Colossians 2 : 16-17

@neilmuggeridge7790 Ай бұрын

Smug Doug!

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

▸ Keeping the sabbath was part of the law that Christ took away. “He . . . canceled out the certificate of death consisting of decrees against us . . .; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ” (Colossians 2:14-17). Christians are no more obligated to keep the sabbath than the other Old Testament festivals or its food and drink regulations! In fact, we are warned against going back to the Law to justify our practices. To do so severs us from Christ (Galatians 5:1-4).

@mixvideos3024 Ай бұрын

@donwhitt9899 Ай бұрын

Justification by removal of the law that condemns our sins is a false gospel. The true gospel is that the law retained its full power to condemn sin in the flesh and that Jesus was condemned for our transgressions of that law, and suffered and died in our place. Who can deny this?

@Richie2011Mr Ай бұрын

@@kac0404 what is the problem of obeying the 10 commandments. If the 4th commandment states to keep Sunday holy, I am going to obey but it stated Sabbath so I keep the Sabbath holy. Simple. Why people searching for excuses to not keep the 4th. With endless debate. Go do whatever you want. Keep 9 commandments instead of 10. It’s up to you.

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

@mixvideos3024 THE END OF THE SABBATH LAW - What law of commandments separated Jews from Gentiles? The Law of Moses! One of those commandments was to observe the Sabbath. Ephesians 2:11-15 - Today, we are dead to the Law of Moses. That is the same law that said, 'You shall not covet' and also said, 'Remember the Sabbath day; to keep it holy.' The entire Law of Moses was nailed to the cross. Romans 7:4-7 - The only reason that we are not to covet today is because the Law of Christ commands us! Romans 13:9, Hebrews 10:1, 9 - Those who appeal to the old law make make themselves a debtor to do the whole old law. Galatians 5:2-3

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

@Richie2011Mr SABBATH LAW - TO WHOM GIVEN - Moses' words, "It was not with our fathers that the Lord made this covenant, but with us, with all of us who are alive here today." Deuteronomy 5:1-3, 12-15 - God gave the Ten Commandments to Moses on Mt. Sinai. These laws were not given to everyone! They were meant only for Israel Exodus 20:8-11 - God gave Israel a sign between them because He brought them out of Egypt. Ezekiel 20:10-12 - God made known to Israel His laws through Moses. This included the Sabbath. Nehemiah 9:12-14 - Therefore, we conclude that the Sabbath observance, which was a part of the Law of Moses, was only given to Israel. It was never given to any other people.

@JamesLynch-lh3vn Ай бұрын

I want to see Jesus,with His scars,knowing he died for me,and shed his blood for me,not an impersonal no knowing sabbath day surrounded by a halo..Jesus name written in our foreheads,not a halo on our heads

@mixvideos3024 Ай бұрын

@apples4208 Ай бұрын

@@mixvideos3024 you keep spamming this comment everywhere like a bot🤔

@timothyscavo8510 Ай бұрын

I'm definitely learning from your channel, Myles. I've never heard any Adventist refute you or any of their critics. They marginalize their critics, or they'll get on your channel and troll the comments ad nauseum. But refutation? NOPE!

@rickbrauner1373 Ай бұрын

you must be totally unaware of the Adventist Defense League, They have refuted him over and over again and made him to look the fool that he is.

@timothyscavo8510 Ай бұрын

@rickbrauner1373 Yeah ... Sure ... Rrrrrrr-IGHT !!! Please go back to your echo chamber of prevarications. I prefer truth.

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

@@timothyscavo8510You don't prefer truth Timothy. You run from the truth and prefer to delete your thread and start again when presented with truth you can't refute. Myles is talking nonsense about Man's first day and God's 7th day as if that tells us anything about Sunday becoming the Sabbath. And you support this mess!

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

@@rickbrauner1373Timothy doesn't like truth. He prefers to delete his thread and start again when presented with truth he can't refute.

@jeffreya.patterson6210 15 күн бұрын

Fearful is the issue to which the world is to be brought. The powers of earth, uniting to war against the commandments of God, will decree that “all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond” (Revelation 13:16), shall conform to the customs of the church by the observance of the false sabbath. All who refuse compliance will be visited with civil penalties, and it will finally be declared that they are deserving of death. On the other hand, the law of God enjoining the Creator's rest day demands obedience and threatens wrath against all who transgress its precepts. GC 604.2 With the issue thus clearly brought before him, whoever shall trample upon God's law to obey a human enactment receives the mark of the beast; he accepts the sign of allegiance to the power which he chooses to obey instead of God. The warning from heaven is: “If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation.” Revelation 14:9, 10. GC 40/45

@teamrecon2685 Ай бұрын

Come out of your cult Doug. Repent.

@AmegoTV23 Ай бұрын

Making excuses to disregard God's commandments for personal gain or relying on human understanding reflects the character of God's enemy. Such actions will only lead you away from God. The Sabbath was instituted at creation. an additional special 7th day creation. A sacred day, the seventh day, set apart for humanity. It is a sign of your relationship and loyalty to God. And the enemy despises this, which is why he introduced an alternative day of worship and attempted to alter the Ten Commandments. (Review history who change the sabbath) A prophecy about the enemy's attempt to alter God's law, including the Sabbath. Daniel 7:25 - "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law." Emphasizes the Sabbath as a sign of loyalty and relationship with God. there is no other way but to trust and obey the will of God. Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Obedience is your light to Jesus Christ. emphasizes the transformative power of living in accordance with His teachings. Obedience is our path, guiding us closer to Christ, who is the Light of the World. The divine law is the reflection of Jesus character

@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h Ай бұрын

So you are a CULT EPXERT,yes or no. because I know a CULT EXPERT who wrote a book where he denied and said that the sda church is not a CULT.have you ever heard about him,dr water Martin ? so why minions like you stubbornly keep saying the sda is a cult. you have no idea what a cult is.that is why you keep repeating what u hear from myles.

@raidersinthesky Ай бұрын

Says literally every denomination out there…

@AmegoTV23 Ай бұрын

@@raidersinthesky Making excuses to disregard God's commandments for personal gain or relying on human understanding reflects the character of God's enemy. Such actions will only lead you away from God. The Sabbath was instituted at creation. an additional special 7th day creation. A sacred day, the seventh day, set apart for humanity. It is a sign of your relationship and loyalty to God. And the enemy despises this, which is why he introduced an alternative day of worship and attempted to alter the Ten Commandments. (Review history who change the sabbath) A prophecy about the enemy's attempt to alter God's law, including the Sabbath. Daniel 7:25 - "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law." Emphasizes the Sabbath as a sign of loyalty and relationship with God. there is no other way but to trust and obey the will of God. Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Obedience is your light to Jesus Chtist. emphasizes the transformative power of living in accordance with His teachings. Obedience is our path, guiding us closer to Christ, who is the Light of the World. The divine law is the reflection of Jesus character

@manofgod5794 17 күн бұрын

First, understand what a cult is, and then stop judging others before getting knowledge of your own

@Say-hey24 Ай бұрын

Jesus brought forth a new commandment by necessity. When the priesthood was changed the law of God was changed. Just because the law of God was changed doesn’t mean humans aren’t sinners. Christians are sinners. You are a sinner. Humans are messed up. Christian humans are messed you. Adventist humans are extremely messed up.

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

The Laws of the Mosaic Covenant are fulfilled in Christ - The Law and the Sabbath were pointing to Christ, it was a shadow of what was to come, and not the substance (Colossians 2:16-17). Jesus said that He came not to abolish the law but to fulfill the law (Matthew 5:17). In fulfilling the law, He completed the law. How did He do this? Jesus fulfilled the Law by obeying the law perfectly and by completing the sacrificial system. Jesus saves to the uttermost! In what way can we offer one more sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins? Jesus pronouncement, “It is finished,” signified the completion and fulfillment of the law.

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

You're using Col 2:16 wrong. Am I going to have to teach you here too?

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

@pdub332 You can't teach me a thing. Somebody needs to teach you.

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

@@kac0404 Excellent come back.

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

@@pdub332 The Old Law is aptly referred to as handwritten because when Moses first received the law, he wrote it out for the people. "Then Moses came and recounted to the people all the words of the LORD and all the ordinances; and all the people answered with one voice and said, "All the words which the LORD has spoken we will do!" Moses wrote down all the words of the LORD" (Exodus 24:3-4). Even the Ten Commandments, the prelude to the Law, were initially written by God on tablets of stone. "When He had finished speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, He gave Moses the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God" (Exodus 31:18). The Law of Moses was not an oral tradition passed down through the generations. It was a handwritten code of law.

@kac0404 Ай бұрын

"Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day -- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ" (Colossians 2:16-17). The conclusion is that they should not get pulled back into following Old Testament practices because they were only temporary -- mere shadows of the truth that is in Jesus Christ. Paul isn't calling the Old Law empty traditions and philosophies of men. He is calling the teachings of those advocating following a law that God had canceled empty traditions and philosophies of men. This should not be surprising, Jesus himself told the Jews similar things (Matthew 15:1-9).@pdub332

@jeffryandrew2935 Ай бұрын

Appreciate your work Myles...God bless😇😇😇🙏🙏...

@preacherjoegros1092 Ай бұрын

no wonder this poor fellow is so deceived no one ever told him to look ,in Hebrews chapter 4 concerning entering Christ's Rest,

@mixvideos3024 Ай бұрын

@claudiafranco4888 Ай бұрын

@@mixvideos3024 🤣 Cognitive dissonance is giving you a hard time. You’re parroting yourself repeatedly as a lunatic. 😂

@robertstevenson57 17 күн бұрын

There are 613 laws given in the Torah. The SDA focus on only one of these laws. You can’t pick and chose. All or nothing

@pdub332 16 күн бұрын

The Ordinances, sacrifices, feasts, and ceremonies are no longer relevant. The 10 Commandments remain.

@DamonNomad82 15 күн бұрын

@@pdub332 Riiiight, which is why in 2 Corinthians 3, Paul referred to the "10 Commandments" as "the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones" (verse 7), "the ministry of condemnation" (verse 9), and repeatedly describes them as "passing away" (verses 7, 11 and 13) and calls the following of them "having a veil over their hearts" (verses 12-18). Come out of that self-destructive trap of Sadventism while there is still time for you to escape the coming wrath of those who bind themselves to the old Law, including the 10 Commandments, and shamelessly persecute those who do not join them in their self-destructive folly.

@pdub332 15 күн бұрын

@@DamonNomad82 Riiiight! What is a ministry? It relates to how the 10 Commandments were serviced. Commandments on stone is not a ministry. Commandments by themselves cannot kill or condemn. The ordinances, judgements, ceremonies, sacrifices, punishments administered through the Mosaic law brought condemnation and death when the 10 Commandments were broken. If you learn what words actually mean, you will have a better chance of understanding scripture.

@TheDredog59 Ай бұрын

Nobody is questioning the Sabbath being Saturday . Therefore it’s not changed . It has never been a covenant with anyone other than Israel. Jesus told the lame after he healed him to carry his bed . That was bracketing the Sabbath. Should that not tell us something since Jesus is without sin the perfect lamb of the world. I always point to Deuteronomy 5 explaining the who for and why if the Sabbath . Dough is either high on SDA doctrine or knowingly misleading . God Knows . I pray Adventist wake up to the word of God and drop EGW’s heretical writings 🙏

@Bajannubian095 Ай бұрын

Jesus say the sabbath was made for man (mankind)

@rickbrauner1373 Ай бұрын

According to Gal.3:15 and Heb.9:15-17 Christs' covenant with mankind had to be changed before it's ratification by His death, afterward, any change is disqualified. You have to show where He said " after my death you must keep the day of my resurrection holy as a memorial". The incident you cite where he told the man to carry his bed on the Sabbath is not a violation of the moral law but an ignoring of a manmade regulation. In fact, all of the supposed times Jesus " violated" the law were of the same nature. 1Jn.3:4 says that" sin is the transgression of the law." You would have Jesus to be a sinner! I would remind you of Matt.12:36,37 "But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words shalt thou be condemned." You are on dangerous ground right now!

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

Are you not part of Israel?

@TheDredog59 Ай бұрын

@ last time I checked I’m a gentile Christian .

@rickbrauner1373 Ай бұрын

@@TheDredog59 Have you never read Galatians 3:29? Also I would encourage you to try reading Isaiah 56:6,7 sometime. Strangers are non-Israelites.

@DeBoRL 20 күн бұрын

4th commandment: Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. same commandment we're told to forget. weird.

@theministryoflight5462 Ай бұрын

Myles, may the Lord have mercy on your soul. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

@jsimoes9424 Ай бұрын

Myles broke none of the commands Jesus was talking about

@davidjeremy-ui2fx Ай бұрын

What a judgemental guy...just like all SDAs

@gordo191 Ай бұрын

@@davidjeremy-ui2fxand Myles isn't ?.

@raidersinthesky Ай бұрын

@@jsimoes9424so, Myles is a perfect human being?

@teamrecon2685 Ай бұрын

@theministryoflight5462 we know the sabbath is ceremonial rather than moral in nature...the priests worked on the sabbath.

@wingslevel Ай бұрын

It shall greatly help you to understand the scripture, if you mark not only what is spoken or written, but of whom, and to whom, with what words, at what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goes before and what follows after. - John Wycliffe 1324-1384

@MrAwak3 Ай бұрын

They had 10 different answers for him because they have no Apostolic succession and need to invent reasons. Untaught Christians teaching others is a recipe for disaster and Adventism is one of those disasters.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@MrAwak3 I agree but would more than likely disagree on the defining of apostolic succession. But yes, Adventism is the result of what happens when you entirely disconnect the faith from history and see that past as having zero authority whatsoever.

@MrAwak3 Ай бұрын

@ I know you’re a Christian Miles, I’m not one of those guys who thinks everyone outside his Church isn’t “saved,” for lack of a better word. You still can’t trace a thing back before Martin Luther for Protestants and even he didn’t want what it turned into. I think as you go further in your journey, you will end up at the fork in the road we all do. One way in Rome and the other is Eastern Orthodoxy. I’ve come to find Orthodoxy to be the True Church but I’m not closed minded. One thing I was told by my Priest early on is “we know where the Church is, we don’t know where it isn’t.”

@jonasaras Ай бұрын

@@MrAwak3Everyone knows that the original, true Christians were Baptists, and they weren’t baptizing babies. The Orthodox and the Romanists came out from them later on.

@jamesb6818 Ай бұрын

@@MrAwak3 I’m a Protestant and I’m going for coffee on Thursday with an EO priest. I’ve been wrestling with the Orthodox faith for 3 years now. Please keep me in your prayers.

@MrAwak3 Ай бұрын

@@jamesb6818 you’re on the right path and I will pray for you.

@jarredthorpey9004 Ай бұрын

The deception in the SDA especially leader, for me is just in another level.

@Richie2011Mr Ай бұрын

The 4th commandment says Sabbath bro. You can change it up to you but I am not. Don’t get offended. Don’t hate the people who keep 10 commandments as original. The 10 commandments is plain easy to understand.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@Richie2011Mr “the 4th commandment says sabbath bro” Thanks for this mind blowing revelation. Sabbath means rest, “bro.” No one changed anything. Adventists don’t keep the 10 commandments. They have a false god and gospel. Which means you can’t actually keep the sabbath because the root of the sabbath is the gospel-the Person and Work of Jesus. Doesn’t matter that you go to “church” on Saturdays.

@mavicpro3289 Ай бұрын

And don't judge people who don't keep Israels Sabbath Col 2:16

@Richie2011Mr Ай бұрын

@@mavicpro3289 You can say what ever you want to say. Don’t get offended Bro. I understand the 10 commandments as it stated. Exp the 6th say don’t kill as simple as that. If you want to change to 9 commandments instead of 10 it’s on you Bro. But God told me to remember the 4th. So I won’t skip the 4th.

@Richie2011Mr Ай бұрын

@@answeringadventism Recite the 10 commandments over and over again.

@nonconformist4802 Ай бұрын

@@Richie2011Mr Yeah, that is exactly what is happening in your church. Repeating until the brainwashed program become a success.

@momfaustel1292 Ай бұрын

He could just open a book...and would find the answer

@jebthebear Ай бұрын

Maybe the Bible? haha

@mavicpro3289 28 күн бұрын

@pdub332 I have created a new thread saved scrolling down 120 replies 😅 Replying to the Galatians and Corinthians Question. It seems that the teachings of Galatians and Corinthians you follow may not come from the Holy Spirit but rather from a particular interpretation of the Bible. This perspective might be influencing how you understand the New Testament. The infallible interpreter supported William Miller's views on Christ's return, leading many to sell their possessions, which caused a lot of confusion. People guided by the Holy Spirit warned against this by citing scripture, reminding others that no one knows the hour! Unfortunately, those warnings were overlooked. Today, individuals inspired by the Holy Spirit continue to reference scripture, especially in response to criticism about Sabbath observance, emphasizing Colossians 2:16. However, the leaders of that denomination insist that this verse doesn’t refer to a weekly Sabbath.

@pdub332 27 күн бұрын

Hi, did you know many of your comments are invisible unless you sort the comments to show 'newest' comments instead of 'top' comments? Do you know how to find them? If you do, then we can start to have longer conversations and set our thoughts out more fully.

@pdub332 27 күн бұрын

Regarding Galatians and Corinthians, I think you are judging me based on what you think I believe instead of what I am saying. I've shown you bible verses for everything I have said. I would really love you to understand what I am saying about Col 2:16 because you are in error.

@evaristopacheco4738 Ай бұрын

Israel is 7 hours ahead of us, so then if their sabbath starts from 6pm Friday evening that means that our sabbath starts at 1am Saturday morning so then who's sabbath are we to keep, the Jewish sabbath time or ours. As Jesus himself said the sabbath was made for men, not men for the sabbath. If the electricity or the heat of their homes stops working in the middle of the winter on the sabbath day, will they refuse to call on a company to get it fixed on the the sabbath day, so according to them, God would rather have you be in the dark and freeze to death in the middle of the winter in keeping of (his) sabbath law. Amen Love you all.

@gracejurian6728 Ай бұрын

And remember it's supposed to be kept from sunset to sunset. I know of places where sunset only comes after 22hrs and some places won't see the sun for days.

@PavelMosko Ай бұрын

On this topic I heartily recommend an online article from Grace Communion International called, "Old Testament Laws: The Origins of Sunday Worship in the Early Church". It is the absolute most thorough analysis of the Bible on this topic that I have ever seen! And I have read lots of stuff for the last 20 something years from Protestants, Catholics and various Eastern Christians. To that I usually include a good Messianic Jewish article on the 8th day and my work is done.

@Feroxx65 Ай бұрын

Law breakers are so cunning to devise any means just to trample the moral law of God enshrined in the decalogue. A church or pastor who preach telling people to break the law of God and encourages people to disobey God is a liar and the truth is not in him. 1John 2:3-4. A church which does not teach and uphold the law of God is a false church. Isa.8:20. One thing us certain, Satan hates the people of God who keep the commandments of Jesus. They are the remnant people of God in these last days. Rev. 12:17. There is only one parameter to show that we love our Lord, and this is substantiated by keeping His law. John 14:15.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@Feroxx65except for the fact that the SDA church has a false god. lol. But yeah, they “keep the commandments.”

@VoiceOfTheWord316 Ай бұрын

What about the other laws. Why are we always talking about the sabbath?

@Adrian_Mason Ай бұрын

Having read [Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners], John Bunyan felt very strongly about keeping the 4th Commandment and he kept it on Sundays. It struck me that the Commandment doesn't demand a specific 7th Day, no Saturday mentioned. It looks more like a cycle of giving 1/7 to God and resting in His Rest that until Adam sinned didn't seem to end.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@Adrian_Mason because Bunyan was a Christian sabbatarians which was a majority view in his day. I am as well. Lots of details SDAs miss on this subject and lots of assumptions they make in Genesis. I talk about this in depth here: SDA Pastor vs. Christian: The First Day Sabbath | Part 2 | @HastingsSDAChurch kzbin.infosz19ugwOf2s?feature=share

@Adrian_Mason Ай бұрын

@answeringadventism For sure! Thank You for the reminder 🔗.

@tony1685 Ай бұрын

He was specific that we keep 'The' Sabbath, not 'a' Sabbath -- 'The' being the definite article. and yes, It happens to cover most of the day known as 'saturday'. see what happened when they thought they'd decide which day was Holy and which wasn't in Scripture -- Ezekiel 22:26

@Adrian_Mason Ай бұрын

@tony1685 Read verse 28 and 29. Just to be clear your verse 26 is talking about more than just the weekly Sabbath.

@tony1685 Ай бұрын

@@Adrian_Mason oh there are more violations, that's sure -- but it's more accurate and revealing when it opens with priests and how they violate the Lord's day Sabbath. no dichotomy friend.

@mikepotter1291 Ай бұрын

DB lie 11 answers from 10 pastors. False in one false in all.

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

C'mon now...don't be jealous of DB, just because he has achieved more by God's grace and blessings,when you here along with Myles being haters...🙄

@mikepotter1291 Ай бұрын

@ I'd say he's gained a millstone since he knows better.

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

@@mikepotter1291 yes, twist it🙄 no one said he knew better, nor does he. The fruits speak for themselves. Yeya😉

@davidmarham9272 Ай бұрын

Desmond Ford would agree 👍 with the last part of this

@jandrelabuschagne3712 Ай бұрын

Amen.

@Akhgy Ай бұрын

Would you look at that? He discovered..schismatics 😂😂😂 My Church Can easily convert them cause we Keep both Saturdays and Sunday has Holy days.

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

What is worse than a double minded man🤨

@AmegoTV23 Ай бұрын

@HardPumpers Ай бұрын

@@AmegoTV23 False SDA interpretations prove nothing...

@AmegoTV23 Ай бұрын

@@HardPumpers 1 John 2:4. If someone claims, “I know God,” but doesn’t obey God’s commandments, that person is a liar and is not living in the truth.

@DamonNomad82 Ай бұрын

@@AmegoTV23 You are someone who claims "I know God" but doesn't obey God's commandments. Here is what God commands regarding observance of days or of dietary restrictions: "Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; [a]and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s." (Romans 14:1-8) By judging others for keeping or not keeping certain days, or for eating or not eating certain foods, you are disobeying God's commandments. Repent!

@AmegoTV23 Ай бұрын

@@DamonNomad82 Making excuses to disregard God's commandments for personal gain or relying on human understanding reflects the character of God's enemy. Such actions will only lead you away from God. The Sabbath was instituted at creation. an additional special 7th day creation. A sacred day, the seventh day, set apart for humanity. It is a sign of your relationship and loyalty to God. And the enemy despises this, which is why he introduced an alternative day of worship and attempted to alter the Ten Commandments. (Review history who change the sabbath) A prophecy about the enemy's attempt to alter God's law, including the Sabbath. Daniel 7:25 - "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law." Emphasizes the Sabbath as a sign of loyalty and relationship with God. there is no other way but to trust and obey the will of God. Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Obedience is your light to Jesus Christ. emphasizes the transformative power of living in accordance with His teachings. Obedience is our path, guiding us closer to Christ, who is the Light of the World. The divine law is the reflection of Jesus character

@DamonNomad82 Ай бұрын

@@AmegoTV23 You said: "Making excueses to disregard God's commandments for personal gain or relying on human understanding reflects the character of God's enemy." My answer: So stop making excuses, stop disregarding God's commandments by judging others over their diets and the days they do or don't observe and stop being God's enemy! You said: "The Sabbath was instituted at creation. an additional special 7th day creation." My answer: That's 100% false. The "Sabbath" was NEVER instituted until God commanded the 12 tribes of Israel through Moses at Mount Sinai, and even then it was only instituted for the 12 tribes of Israel, not to non-Israelites. In addition, the "Sabbath", like the rest of the Law of Moses, was merely a shadow, fullfilled and nailed to the cross with Christ (Colossians 2:8-19) and no longer applies even to Israelites. You said: " It is a sign of your relationship and loyalty to God. And the enemy despises this, which is why he introduced an alternative day of worship and attempted to alter the Ten Commandments." My answer: Bull feathers. It is a sign that you despise the Cross of Christ and trample upon His righteousness, and spit upon His perfect fulfillment of the Law, and a sign of your arrogance in your own abilities. By binding yourself to commandments that were never given to you, and haven't been in effect for the past two millennia, you are telling Jesus "Your sacrifice isn't good enough! I have to prove that I am better than You and puff myself up like a Pharisee, so I can judge others who don't do what I do!" For one who prattles on and on about "obedience", you sure set a poor example of being obedient.

@tony1685 Ай бұрын

'nor any other first day sabbatarian.' -- wow -- talk about a contradiction in terms! the Creator has already *DEFINED* clearly what the Sabbath is and when It is -- yet you insist on following nonsense. we could debunk your issues in many ways. however, if you don't believe the Creator & Saviour, why would you believe what's posted? why didn't Jesus or anyone else tell us about this 'new creation' which makes Jesus a liar in Matt 5:18-19 & Luke 16:17 ??

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@tony1685 Jesus didn’t tell us about redemption? Tony, maybe bow this one out. New creation is a phrase referring to redemption. The sabbath isn’t just rooted in creation, tough guy, it’s also rooted in redemption (Deuteronomy 5:12-16) and this is actually one of my central objections to the truncated sabbatarianism of Adventism if you’d actually bother to listen to me on the subject and not viscerally respond. If you think Jesus said nothing about this then you evidence you don’t even understand the foundation and bedrock of the incarnation and the Christian faith. Which is to be expected, unfortunately, if you’re an Adventist, because new creation is what the entire Christian faith is about. Because the Christian faith is all about the glorious good news of the Person and Work of Jesus. His accomplishing of redeeming what man broke.

@tony1685 Ай бұрын

@@answeringadventism paragraph 1 -- how about starting with basics. see, we can't teach a child who refuses simple addition & subtraction, to be successful with geometry. likewise, we can't expect you to actually grasp deeper theological implications, when you don't even have Truth comprehended. Truth = John 14:6 Truth = John 17:17 Truth = Psalm 119:142, 151 regardless of what you post, all your theories fall flat without Truth. see John 14:15 a real man and real Christian loves Christ (no 10% discount). also (as if that isn't clear enough) we have 1 John 2:3-4 showing that you simply lack integrity & honesty. in fact, our Creator labels you a 'liar'. so if you ignore His Word, you'll surely not care much for mine.

@ckmanga48 Ай бұрын

Collossian 2:8 [8]Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

Engaging in 1st day Sabbatarian word salads, then make accusations of SDA Sabbath twisting? Classic Myles!

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@pdub332 yes Hebrews 4, John 5, and other large portions of scripture are word salads. Great engagement by way of assertions 🥴 We’re still waiting for you all to even learn the arguments and provide a counter exegesis.

@pdub332 Ай бұрын

@@answeringadventismQuoting scripture that doesn't support your word salad is fine. It's the interpretation you put on it that let's you down. 'Man's first day' vs 'God's seventh day', as if that tells us anything about Sunday becoming a Sabbath!

@raidersinthesky Ай бұрын

@@pdub332the way Myles responds is he’s always looking for a fight. Dude is twisted

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

For those going against the plain Sabbath truth, excusing it as old covenant, that never existed before the Jews, and using all the usual references of roman, colosians etc to misconstrue. There was the ceremonial sabbaths that were yearly, so mistaken for the weekly Sabbath given in the law.

@CederickHarris Ай бұрын

So you’re saying the new creation is not completed yet?

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

New creation is a term that’s synonymous with redemption. Redemption was accomplished in total on the resurrection day. But it was not APPLIED in full on the resurrection day. The new creation is here but what Christ accomplished has not been applied in full yet. Resurrection, curse lifted off creation, etc. all things that come in the future. But Jesus is already presently making all things new (Rev. 21:5) by applying what he accomplished in full 2000 years ago. The new creation is underway and the Christian is in it by way of being born again. My advice would be to study the difference between redemption accomplished versus redemption applied.

@RuebenSwain Ай бұрын

What does it mean in Exodus 31:17 when the Bible says It is a sign between me and the children of Israel forever? If Jesus brought forth a new creation why is there still sin? Anytime God creates there’s no sin. Genuine questions I don’t know anything.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

answeringadventism.com/is-sunday-the-christian-sabbath/

@RuebenSwain Ай бұрын

Thank you for the response. I’m still a little confused. In Isaiah 58:13 The Lord says the sabbath (the 7th day) is the Lords day. And Malachi 3:6 says the Lords never changes. And how do we make sense of Isaiah 66:23? And in regards to Sunday being the new creation because Christ rose on Sunday. From my understanding Christ is just fulfilling the Sanctuary feast. Christ is our Passover lamb which is why he died on 14th days of the 1st month, and he’s also the first fruits of those raised from the dead so he’s fulfilling the feast of the first fruits which was on the 16th day of the 1st month (Leviticus 23:10-11,and 1 Corinthians 15:20), which could have been on any day like how Christmas can be on a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday…ect. I’m having trouble finding anywhere in scripture where The Lord blesses the first day of the week and makes it holy. And I believe as Christians everything we practice should be found in the word of God (Matthew 4:4) I believe tradition is any man made practice that can not be found in the word of God. What do you think?

@VoiceOfTheWord316 Ай бұрын

Hey Myles, with your extensive knowledge on the Sabbath and what it is; now that you attend church on Sunday, what do you do on Saturday?

@melodygn Ай бұрын

Sadly many Christians that abandoned (and for good reason I might add) the SDA church, end up also abandoning and rejecting the 4th commandment just because of their bad experience with all the fanstics inside the SDA church, but the truth is the "change" in sabbath observance does not come from the Bible, but from human traditions. First day worship based of Jesus resurrection it's a beautiful tradition, and I'm all for it, but is nothing more than that.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

Incorrect. I don’t reject the 4th commandment. And the Christian sabbath position isn’t a “tradition of men” unless by “men” you mean the apostles. Copious works exist on the subject and have for nearly 2000 years at this point. It isn’t “based on Jesus resurrection.” This is a truncated understanding. The resurrection day was the day Jesus entered His rest AFTER accomplishing redemption. Redemption was a creative act of God. The sabbath is rooted in creation (Genesis 1), rest (Genesis 1; Deuteronomy 5), and redemption (Deuteronomy 5). God in the original creation did a mighty work, accomplished that work, and entered his rest the seventh day. God in Christ, in the new creation (the redemption of all things) also did a mighty miraculous work and accomplished it in full. He also entered His rest, but not on the seventh day. He entered the first. The resurrection day was when it was accomplished. Paul hinges the accomplishment of redemption on the resurrection. The sabbath day memorializes when God entered His rest. Sabbath means rest. In the old creation it was the seventh day. But in the new creation it’s the first day. God in Christ entered his rest the first day in the new creation. We aren’t in the old creation anymore. So the heart of the sabbath is about Jesus and His accomplishment of redemption where He redeemed the fallen creation as the Second Adam. That’s the root of the sabbath-the gospel. So to say it’s “based on the resurrection” is not precise enough because it’s more than that. And what I described above is biblical. It’s what Hebrews 4 is saying. I’ve shown this I don’t even know how many times at this point and have yet to hear a better exegesis from those that disagree.

@melodygn Ай бұрын

@answeringadventism beautiful rationalization indeed. Beautiful apologetics for something that doesn't really have Biblical support. Like I said, I don't judge you or anyone else for reinterpreting the 4th commandment, it's a beautiful reinterpretation, but nothing more than that. We Christians are famous for our mental and theological gymnastics and for our ability for reinterpreting things according to our dogmas. At least the SDA is consistent with the Bible on the literal meaning of Exodus 20:8 (but I have to admit they also totally distort the true meaning of the Sabbath) but mainstream Christianity has reinterpreted a commandment who didn't need any kind of reinterpretation. We are indeed a new creation thanks to our Lord Jesus Christ, should we need to change His law because of that? Not at all. Should beautiful traditions based on beautiful interpretations replace what God's has plainly stated, personally I don't think so. 7th and 1st day worship should coexist in my opinion. Thanks for you answer.

@gordo191 Ай бұрын

REMEMBER the Sabbath keep it HOLY , that's all folks . 😊

@melodygn Ай бұрын

When you answer the question "should Christians observe the 10 commandments?" You have your answer to the Sabbath dilemma. As simple as that. Of course you have the freedom to rationalizate as much as you wish in order to "hide your eyes" of the 7th day observance. And no, you are not saved by keeping the 4th commandment neither condemned for ignoring it.

@memochavez694 Ай бұрын

Brother you need to read history of the change of days. And after that, ask yourself, who were the original Sunday keepers? Blagh Blaugh Blaigh and remember Jesus loves those in error.

@mixvideos3024 Ай бұрын

@memochavez694 Ай бұрын

@mixvideos3024 amen brother! Historically Pagan worshiped on Sunday. To bring them in, ah let's just change Saturday to Sunday cause I have authority to change the laws of God. Yes my priest father you have the power to forgive sins and change Saturday to Sunday???

@jimmu2008 Ай бұрын

@@memochavez694No, they didn't. There's no evidence that pagans of any kind had a seven-day cycle of worship. They did not worship on Sundays.

@Adrian_Mason Ай бұрын

@mixvideos3024 Pasting the same response saves time I see.

@jimmu2008 Ай бұрын

@@memochavez694 the Apostles were the original Sunday keepers. Praise the Lord!

@VoiceOfTheWord316 Ай бұрын

Apart from the seal and the mark of the beast topics, what day of the week is the 4th Commandment referring to?

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

Go watch the full stream this clip is from. It’s in the description and linked at the end of the clip

@michaelbrown7998 Ай бұрын

Something as important as the Sabbath I would think Jesus/ God would give specific orders to worship on the first day! that is a huge change to leave to speculation. This whole time there was no confusion on the day of worship. Now there is literally a war going on and no specific proof that the day was changed.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@michaelbrown7998 “no specific proof” This is your assertion based on something needing a verbatim statement to be true. By this same standard you need to reject the deity of Christ and the Trinity-neither of which are explicitly stated but arrived at through good and necessary deduction. In fact, if you’re an Adventist, you’d need to reject 95% of SDA theology which isn’t verbatim found in the Bible. Show me where the Bible plainly says “go to church on Saturday.” We don’t accept your bad hermeneutic standard. I gave numerous proofs from scripture in the presentation that this clip is from. This was a clip focusing on a specific aspect of that presentation.

@kendukamitchell9577 Ай бұрын

I hope no one is fallowing this deception that this guy is putting out there clearly he doesn’t understand scripture

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@kendukamitchell9577 yes, Adventist theology is a mess.

@jimmu2008 Ай бұрын

Yes, Doug hasn't demonstrated any understanding of Scripture. He's either clueless or dishonest.

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

@@jimmu2008oh, is that why he is worldwide and has helped lead hundreds to Jesus? While you and Myles are just spinning eloquent lies and hate.

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

Oh man, the usual attacks. Myles and his bunch of haters using lame excuses and twisting words. Its so clear its all bitterness. Using what Doug says to down play. Dont say he shouldve consulted theologian to explain the Sabbath, so what?! It was a start point, it is his testimony! He obviously studied for himself. Myles you go on like you know everything that you only that knows how it is. You show your arrogance. Get over yourself! How you judge Doug on how he may researched etc. His preaching is global. He has helped lead hundreds to Jesus to the truth. Get over yourself. Your such a sook! Its actually quite disgusting to look at. So much hate in your heart. Go fix yourself instead of attaacking the church and the ppl that work tirelessly for the Lord for many years!

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n lots of assertions and false accusations, zero engagement with the biblical arguments. The SDA way.

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

@answeringadventism no argument, mate, when it clear your mind is sealed with just attacks. I came into the church over 20 years ago from Catholic. Only church that got me really reading my Bible and loving the truth. Am I perfect? No! But no 'hot pot' throws will ever make me jump ship. I know too much truth, by God's grace still learning.

@claudiafranco4888 Ай бұрын

@@answeringadventism Thank you Miles! Former Adventists like me, we do appreciate your hard work. But it’s only for who have ears to ear. God bless you! ❤

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

@@claudiafranco4888 just sad🙄

@raidersinthesky Ай бұрын

Funny how you just put up an SDA pastor haha. You don’t have a target for Seventh Day Baptists??….as Rachel Oaks Preston was the one that introduced the Sabbath to the early church pioneers of the SDA church. Because initially, they wanted to worship on a Sunday.

@answeringadventism 26 күн бұрын

@@raidersinthesky wow! Thanks for this mind blowing revelation. We literally have an article dedicated to such on our website and I’ve talked about it before numerous times. What you fail to grasp is: 1. The seventh day baptists dont make the insane claims the SDA church does. Like that you’ll be damned for rejecting their errant theology. Yeah, when you make the insane claims they do we are going to examine you with a fine tooth comb. 2. The seventh day baptists got their arguments for the sabbath from first day sabbatarians that were around long before them (because the belief is ancient). I talked about this exact thing in the presentation this clip is from. 3. Seventh day baptists aren’t a Christian cult group that’s deceiving millions of people. They’re relatively small (not even 100,000 people). 4. It would do you well to read our mission statement and learn why this platform exists.

@raidersinthesky 26 күн бұрын

@ your mission statement is flaud and pointed towards one religious group. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what you or everyone believes. God decides. But you can keep going, if it means putting food on the table for you. Plenty of so called Christian’s doing these platforms to make profit

@raidersinthesky 26 күн бұрын

@ and no. You’re wrong about seventh day Baptist’s getting the argument from 1st day Sabbatarians. No record of that. You must be reading fake articles like a liberal.

@raidersinthesky 26 күн бұрын

@@answeringadventism and you don’t have a source that’s says SDB’s got their sabbath ideas from 1st day sabbatarians

@TanishaMasekesa Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 if were to go one on one with Doug on a debate he will fry you …coz honestly you’re mixing verses and clearly have no understanding 💀💀

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

Yeah, I’m totally clueless. Get it set up so he can cook me lol

@chillgamer7698 Ай бұрын

Making excuses to disregard God's commandments for personal gain or relying on human understanding reflects the character of God's enemy. Such actions will only lead you away from God. The Sabbath was instituted at creation. an additional special 7th day creation. A sacred day, the seventh day, set apart for humanity. It is a sign of your relationship and loyalty to God. And the enemy despises this, which is why he introduced an alternative day of worship and attempted to alter the Ten Commandments. (Review history who change the sabbath) A prophecy about the enemy's attempt to alter God's law, including the Sabbath. Daniel 7:25 - "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law." Emphasizes the Sabbath as a sign of loyalty and relationship with God. there is no other way but to trust and obey the will of God. Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Obedience is your light to Jesus Christ.

@DamonNomad82 Ай бұрын

If that's the case, why aren't you out marching around the walls of Jericho, or sneaking up on the encampment of the Midianites, or preparing to fight the Amalekites? Those are all commandments of God found in the Bible. The fact that they were specific commandments given to other people in another time and were never given to you is completely irrelevant since you clearly treat all God's commandments as applying to all people in all times. The same is true of the Law of Moses, which was given exclusively to the Israelites (there is zero record of God commanding anyone else to keep any "Sabbath", from Adam to anyone else before Moses on Mount Sinai, and never to any Gentiles at all). Even the Israelites were only given the Law until the New Covenant was given with the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. If "Sabbath keeping" was of such paramount importance, it's funny that it was never mentioned in the list of guidelines the Apostles had sent to Gentile believers after discussing the issues of the Law of Moses in Acts 15. Under the New Covenant, there is no obligation to keep any day or not keep any day, as shown in Romans 14 and Colossians 2.

@benamen2267 Ай бұрын

I was thinking you brought a scripture evidence or are you done with your accusations 😂

@christophersukhdeo1538 Ай бұрын

New creation is the same as pre fall creation... God is restoring to what was ... guess what...the seventh day sabbath was part of that pre fall creation So its the same with the new creation..same seventh day sabbath Another thing when you read the Bible its speak of being seal by the holy Spirit then in revelation it speaks of the angels doing a different sealing....tell me what that sealing is Makes me remember God desire to deliver Israel from Egypt but still he made them go through a sealing process by placing the blood on the doorpost....do you know why??? We are saved by grace but if you don't obey no amount of grace can save you

@danielcrowell8143 Ай бұрын

Okay Myles, but he’s talking about one of Gods 10 commandments you’re talking about a church congregation.

@jessemora11 Ай бұрын

Your theological basis for Sunday Sabbatarianism is entirely extra biblical

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@jessemora11 yes, great engagement with the biblical arguments by way of assertion 😅 Always rich coming from the movement whose central core paradigm resides entirely outside of the Bible which is an objective fact and not just a mere assertion. But yeah, you really got me!

@jimmu2008 Ай бұрын

Jesse, would you like a list of SDA doctrines that are entirely extra biblical. ( don't have time to give you a complete list, but you don't need one.)

@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n Ай бұрын

@@jimmu2008yes please! your extra biblical like Myles 🤨

@jimmu2008 Ай бұрын

@@ThusSaithTheLord-g2n the Investigative Judgment is the first extra-biblical doctrine that comes to mind. SDAs also have a false Trinity. It's really Tritheism, not Christian Trinitarianism. EGW speaks of the "heavenly trio" and "the three worthies." These are unbiblical ways of speaking of the Trinity. Teaching that Michael is Jesus is also unbiblical. And there are many more extra biblical and anti-biblical doctrines taught by EGW and the SDA.

@ChrisTian-tz3eq Ай бұрын

Yea, Sadly.. You Are Hiding your eyes.. : (

@nsoroma_00 Ай бұрын

Sir, why are you doing this? Why are you teaching against this Pure Truth?

@mattmurdock2868 Ай бұрын

If you know of ANY of the teachings from SDA that CAN be found in scripture, I would be MUCH interested.!

@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h Ай бұрын

I will report this video right now myles CanRight junior. for your lies, for being a BIGOT.for your bIAS AND HATE AGAINST ADVENTIST,RIGHT NOW.

@tony1685 Ай бұрын

it's amazing how much seeking one does to try to make the Bible contradict the Bible.

@jtmx_217 Ай бұрын

Who?

@mikepotter1291 Ай бұрын

I'll agree with that.

@mikepotter1291 Ай бұрын

Tony do you have any understanding of who Christians follow?

@tony1685 Ай бұрын

@@mikepotter1291 a Christian obeys, imitates & follows Christ.

@jimmu2008 Ай бұрын

@@tony1685yes. Real Christians observe the day that Jesus rose from the dead.

@BibleBeliever1 Ай бұрын

1st day sabatarian is diabolical lol. Where does the Bible ever call the first day a sabbath?

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

Where does the Bible ever say “go to church on Saturday?” Where does the Bible ever say “Ellen White is a prophet?” Where does the Bible ever say “investigative judgment will begin in 1844?” Where does the Bible ever say “God wants you to be a vegetarian?” These sorts of silly verbatim fallacy arguments from Adventists and the like are exactly that-silly. Holding that same ridiculous standard refutes 95% of SDA theology. Yet when it comes to the sabbath they engage in special pleading and inconsistent standards. The arguments for the Christian sabbath aren’t predicated upon the Bible verbatim saying “the first day is the sabbath” or the “first day has become the sabbath.” I’ve broken down the biblical arguments ad nauseum at this point-including in the full stream this clip is from. They’re presented in our website. Go do some actual digging. If you have to ask this question then you evidence you haven’t even done a cursory level look into that which you call “diabolical.” lol literally all the SDA pioneers got ALL of their arguments for the sabbath being perpetual from first day sabbatarians. Because that’s who the seventh day baptists got their arguments from. They just tried saying “but they were all wrong about the day.” Again, further evidencing they didn’t even understand that which they were borrowing from.

@BibleBeliever1 Ай бұрын

@answeringadventism you haven't answered the question.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

Because I’ve literally done so NUMEROUS times including in the full stream this clip is from and in multiple articles on our website. It’s not our fault you’re too lazy to look and I’m not typing it all out for you because you’re lazy. So instead we showed your inconsistent standard would refute Adventism if you were actually consistent in your reasoning.

@BibleBeliever1 Ай бұрын

@answeringadventism all it would take is one verse or example. I mean there's a reason people attend church on Sunday. They acknowledge that the day of worship is a holy convocation they just have the day wrong. Which answers your question, where the Bible says to go to church on the 7th day.

@LoCoWi Ай бұрын

@BibleBeliever1 Where does the bible state that attending church on sundays is prohibited? Give me one (or more) verse that states "You shall not use sundays for church worship & gatherings". I believe that sunday 👉ISN'T👈 a sabbath of any kind.

@VoiceOfTheWord316 Ай бұрын

Why dont all these Sabbath fulfillments apply to the other 9. I need him to fulfill two other ones in my life where I dont need to keep them anymore.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@VoiceOfTheWord316 because you clearly dont understand the Christian sabbatarian position-as we don’t claim the sabbath doesn’t apply. You have errantly concluded that days are the substance of the command yet days are a part of how one CEREMONIALLY engages in the sabbath. They’re created. That isnt the substance. The substance is the gospel- the Person and the work of Jesus. Adventists can’t grasp this as they idolize a 24 hour rotating around the sun thinking there’s something immutable about that. The day of ceremony can change without the commands substance changing. And this literally happens in scripture as I showed in the full stream this clip is from.

@wg1844 Ай бұрын

Doug is only echoing what the Bible says. What you saying is not biblical. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy!

@sethoselken9562 Ай бұрын

Enjoy your echo chamber here guys. Myles work is just leading more people to Adventist truth.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

Aka you can't meaningfully engage. "Echo chamber" Lol. Yeah, Roman Catholic, Protestants, atheists, Orthodox, Adventists and Evangelicals-we're really an echo chamber over here.

@donwhitt9899 Ай бұрын

I'd like to repeat Doug's original question. Where do you find all that stuff about Sunday in the Bible? To me it sounds like gobbledigook. Out of all the commandments Jesus told His disciples to teach the world, is there any one, even a suggestion, that even hints of Sunday observance? I can't base my faith on this stuff. Faith comes by hearing the word of God.

@answeringadventism Ай бұрын

@@donwhitt9899 doesn’t matter if it sounds like “gobbledigook” to you. Adventism sounds like that to us. That’s not what makes something errant. This is a clip from a 2 part, 6 hour presentation responding to Doug and his claims. You can go watch it and get your answer. The link is in the description.

@timsears4385 Ай бұрын

Fantastical ideas, with no sound scriptural support.

@VoiceOfTheWord316 Ай бұрын

So the Sabbath is the only one they have an issue with others breaking?