Doug Ford says he wants to build a tunnel under Hwy. 401

Premier Doug Ford says he wants to build a tunnel under Highway 401 that would stretch from Brampton to Scarborough.
Citing increasing gridlock and little room for highway expansion at a news conference Wednesday morning, Ford says his government will begin studying the technical feasibility of building a tunnel stretching across the GTA under the country's busiest highway.
"This tunnel and expressway will cut gridlock support economic growth and help get people moving faster," Ford said.
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[@dadbodforlife]

This is cheaper than breaking the 407 agreement?

[@johnziegelbauer4999]

How about massively raising the property taxes on the 407 . And bankrupt the company that owns ...

[@LockedInWithLovebirds]

​@@johnziegelbauer4999that'll bring the investments....

[@TheJlee28]

😢😢😢😢😢

[@Zaylaci-x3k]

​@@johnziegelbauer4999it's a 99 year lease. You don't pay property tax on leases

[@Galaxyshooter116]

Exactly!! There's different ways to get ownership back​@@johnziegelbauer4999

[@tonyclieff6496]

How about making the 407 free?

[@MapleSyrupBruh]

If the Ontario government had never sold the 407 years ago, they wouldn't have money issues.

[@CarbonMeta]

The liberals sold it… as our Vaughan mayor!!!

[@wellyeah26]

The government doesn't Owen the 407

[@kenmck7802]

SHOULD BE. If I'm not mistaken it was TAX PAYER MONEY that built the thing.

[@corybarnes2341]

That was the initial intention modelled after the Burlington Skyway. Collect tolls until the project is paid off and then make it free. However Mike Harris decided he wanted to boast to voters he had a balanced budget. He sold the 407, put the money into the general coffers and left the significant debt attached to the 407 to collect interest and be a problem future generations had to pay for. They have never been responsible with taxpayers money, they just repeat the lie over and over again and gullible people buy in.

[@Kyle-qp3vt]

I will vote, whoever makes 407 for free other than spending billions for building new infrastructure. We all know will take forever to build.

[@Devourer2000]

Wow. So now the drive home will be 2 hours instead of 3.

[@NicholasPittman-n4k]

the 407 is own by another country that's why my GOD think people

[@airborne63]

@@NicholasPittman-n4k the 407 is on a 99 year lease, and most of the infrastructure was built by the 407 consortium, which needs to pay it off.....unless these people with 'wonderful new ideas' like making the highway 'free'.....want to PAY FOR IT NOW.

[@danielhouse1053]

2 hours stuck in traffic....underground.....great

[@hurstshiftin9873]

Should be healthy 😅

[@jakebob8116]

But not free

[@user-ld6wo4rv8h]

Daylight.

[@Bryan-dn1nx]

with the rain we get , that tunnel will flood

[@pd9163]

Imagine flooding rains.....😐

[@bimbamjam]

Tunnel expressway? In Ontario? Drivers; remember the DVP annual flooding & don't forget to pack your scuba gear.

[@joejoe-the-original]

401 would not have flooding issues. Its the high water mark of the ancient glacial lake from the last ice age. The DVP is in a flood valley of the Don river. Two totally diffferent scenarios. That is why there is a highway in the Don and not housing.

[@oo7chicken112]

@bimbamjam Yeah stuck in traffic is GOODER for economy and environment

[@nichmcneil8563]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Kayak_233]

They will incorporate in the design several pop-up spots where drivers can come up for air

[@ericyuan9718]

Pretty sure a tunnel is even more expensive than a double decker highway.

[@cantfindausernamedam]

that would be cool.. seen videos on the machinery that does it..

[@CritCommanda]

It wont even pass the exploratory phase. His even drunker brother proposed a tunnel too, extending the allen underground to downtown

[@Michael-pg7rv]

This project would be like 60 km of tunnel that would need to be extremely wide. Imagine how much more of a positive impact the it would have on gridlock and commuter times if they expanded the subway network by 60 - 100 km instead.

[@zokpls8712]

@@Michael-pg7rv both are trash options just build transit

[@cdnrider6200]

Pretty sure we don't want another Gardner expwy

[@CaptApril123]

I used to be a civil engineering tech. It's not the cost of the highways it's the maintenance, which is already costing the province an insane amount in tax revenue. A project like a tunnel under the 401 would bankrupt the province and could never be maintained.

[@dealman3312]

Ask Japan how they do it

[@Funk1880]

“Civil engineering tech” is a 2 year college diploma, you aren’t a legit engineer

[@MedicinalBlood]

If it’s underground it won’t need to be maintained as often because it’s not exposed to the environmental elements.

[@joejoe-the-original]

Illegal immigration will bankrupt the province and can't be maintained.

[@redstone5062]

407 seems to be in great condition with limited amount of construction. 401 in contrast, seems to be in a constant state of construction and up keep.

[@gabeux9800]

100 billions in highway infrastructure? Dude wants Toronto to become Houston Texas.

[@Mystro256]

With all fairness there is a lot of money going into better GO trains (most of it will be done in 2030's), but some of these highway projects are puzzling when you can spend some of it to fast forward those rail projects... Or maybe help fund underfunded projects like the GO Milton line expansion.

[@skulkid2886]

Texas had an insanely high GDP per capita, so that would be great

[@BremboT]

I say closer to a trillion. He wants to go from mississauga to whitby😂. We gotta get him outta office. Guy's clearly crazy

[@TheJlee28]

@@Mystro256 mass transit is the key ❤❤❤❤

[@Cutlass_Rudd]

You can actually drive through Texas. The best comparison for the GTA is Chicago, they have five 401's

[@dansolo360]

MORE TRAINS MORE HIGH SPEED TRAINS MORE TRAINS. My god how many highways do we need to come to the same conclusion?

[@macberg5806]

@@dansolo360 highways work. We need more, not less. You can see the result of less road in Toronto and it’s NOT good for the average commuter. Good for the tree huggers and that’s about it.

[@connorbranscombe6819]

@@macberg5806 Lol its literally the dead opposite, you're OBJECTIVELY just wrong, dont embarrass yourself brother. Toronto has a shitload of cars and roads, not sure where you got your whacky idea from, we just need one more lane guys, just one more lane I swear.

[@Mystro256]

​@@macberg5806 we're hitting saturation of highways in the GTA and optimisation of existing routes will have limited benefit. We need alternatives like better train service, more routes, better connections. Any heavy populated city solved this already with bigger and better trains, not by tearing up communities to build more roads.

[@sharioforel]

@@macberg5806 shut up boomer

[@Liberal_From_Prairies689]

Like a typical conservative he's forcing people to be vehicle dependent to benefit oil and gas companies. Just like Danielle Smith in Alberta, interfering with a train expansion in Calgary.

[@NiravJoshi]

The tunnel will take 50 years to build and those 50 years will be the most painful ever on the 401

[@norhan_ha]

Flooding Indian 😎weather

[@NiravJoshi]

@@norhan_ha coupled with Canadian inefficiency in completing an engineering project = total disaster

[@kadnan67]

Not 50 years , corrupt construction mafia will do it in 500s years 😢

[@silverrossgroup642]

Agree He is helping contractors become welthy rich Not looking at Ontarios Disabled people who live in poverty line

[@luftschloss2352]

Then they will sell it to a private company 😂

[@paulcopland1697]

That tunnel would be insanely expensive. Way, way, way too expensive. Terrible idea.

[@NicholasPittman-n4k]

SO how would you do it, there is NO OTHER WAY AND WE HAVE WINTER HERE TOO, great idea 1697 yep was that the year you were born

[@robertlee4172]

That's the whole idea. Get it started, cut out of the scene, then it plays out how it plays out. Everyone gets their cut, taxpayers of the future holding the bag.

[@paulcopland1697]

@@NicholasPittman-n4k You must be a Trump cult member, with an idiotic comment like that.

[@jamieleblanc7504]

Moving congestion from above ground to underground. What happens when an EV catches fire in an accident Or even an accident in general. How much property will be appropriate for this tunnel How long will it take to build What about flooding in the tunnel.

[@joejoe-the-original]

Simple . No ev's in the tunnel, banned, prohibited, unless fire suppression technnology catches up to lithium fires which are uncontrollable and toxic smoke heavy. Lose your license kind of banning. Pay damages kind of banning.

[@sirxavior1583]

Sure, let's make the same mistake Boston did with the Big Dig Project/the Central Artery Tunnel Project. Boston Motorists endured 10yrs of traffic caused by the reduced lanes, cost $2.1 billion USD, and it didn't completely solve the problem. I think Ford is getting worried about his chances of being reelected so the more bizarre projects he'll come up with. Ford whould be better off pressuring the federal government for funding to build that high speed rail network that's suppose to connect Montreal, Toronto to Windsor and all the cities/towns in between for a travel time of under 5 hours instead of a highway.

[@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu]

That project is dumb too. 5 hours is barely faster than the existing Via rail travel time Toronto-Montreal, which is in turn only a little cheaper than short-haul flights. So what's the business case for high speed rail? There's not much market in the middle between those who prioritize the cheapest possible ticket or the fastest travel.

[@sirxavior1583]

​@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu .Once you calculate the total time it takes for a 400km flight vs rail travel, statistically trains win out. You'll waste 1.5hr -2hrs arriving at the airport, going through Airport security, checking in for your flight and waiting. That's already half the travel time by train. With VIA rail you can just arrive at the Station 10min before the train leaves. Also the train is less impacted by weather, flights get cancelled to inclement winter this rarely happens with VIA rail. If they can build a new line with trains traveling 250km like in Germany or Japan you'd cut the travel time to around 3hrs. There is a market if you check the VIA rail bookings statistics for the corridor. Many times the tickets are sold out.

[@Sherryblossom2017]

Another highway to flood in storms.

[@LolaRyck]

Can you imagine 😮😮😮

[@joejoe-the-original]

Won't happen, 401 is the ancient shoreline of the last ice age. There is a place for water to go.

[@robertlee4172]

They'll have cranes plucking stuck vehicles from the pools of water.

[@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu]

Of all the bonkers ideas ....look at tunneling for the Eglinton crosstown. The best part of a billion dollars a kilometer, massive traffic disruptions on the surface over the actual work, and it's taken over a decade for a relatively short length of tunnel. Scale that to a 401 bypass underground from Mississauga to Pickering, and we'd be looking at $60 billion plus, four or five decades to dig it, and big chunks of the surface highway out of business while they're tunneling underneath. To add the width of maybe two lanes each way, if they're skinny lanes. So, Doug, I'll save you some trouble on your feasibility study - it isn't feasible. Your monorail idea was less bad than this.

[@VangeliRock]

After all these years they really haven't figured out it doesn't matter how many more lanes you add or new highways you build there will always be traffic.

[@jumbome7420]

Yup lost again eh. Liking your own drivel

[@macberg5806]

Yup and no matter what there will be always be pollution. Might as well do nothing about it then, right? You people just say no to everything just like he said in the video. You people will say no to EVERY project he backs. Increasing the lanes and adding more road will absolutely reduce the amount of traffic. Something that a 4 year old could tell you, or common sense if you had any. Opposing every attempt to fix gridlock is why we’re in this mess. Thank god for Doug ford actually having a spine and standing up to the loud, annoying, and vocal minority.

[@bobcrane9945]

Population growth, congestion and soaring costs will cause a decentralize movement where people and businesses will move out of the GTA. That will reduce the problem.

[@johngawrylash7732]

The 407 is half empty and the Cons sold it off .

[@jeremybenoit759]

Ya and that's why they build more.

[@jedibane]

But not homes, or healthcare

[@jumbome7420]

lol I guess you only think one thing can be done at a time. Not the brightest are you

[@1ABNDT]

Go read how much has been spent on HC you union shill.

[@jedibane]

Lo my intelligence is in question because homes schools and healthcare are suffering? Let people work from home.

[@bdegrds]

There are literally thousands of condos for sale in Toronto right now, starting as little as 250k

[@theholymackerel072]

@@jumbome7420Supporting and defending Ford makes you an idiot, period. Go worship that fat cackling criminal elsewhere.

[@alterego7739]

When the tunnel is done we will have flying cars

[@robertlee4172]

The Elon flying saucer.

[@colleenfinner8173]

😂😂😂

[@Sam19509]

Why don’t they complete the Western & Eastern extensions of the Sheppard Subway first. And finish the Crosstown LRT linking it to Pearson & UTSC.😂😂

[@TheJlee28]

Cos they want to create jobs for their friends first 😂😂😂😂

[@joeposteraros]

Transit has gotten rhe bulk of expansion over the the last 20 years, the roads need investment as well, things go far beyond public transportation. There's commercial travel on those roads that are even more nessessary than transit.

[@deejay9730]

@@joeposteraros That's because Toronto stopped building transit in the 90's. Then we fell behind in transit as the city grew. So now the last 15 years has just been trying to catch up with transit projects that should've been done in the 2000's. Thank you Mike Harris

[@joeposteraros]

@@deejay9730 road infrastructure has been neglected far longer, to the detriment of not only toronto but every single community outside of it. On top of that, outside of lastman and Ford every single mayor of Toronto have done all they can to exacerbate the problem, of both sensical transit and road infrastructure......thanks every left wing dingbat ever

[@KardiFan2000]

​@@joeposteraros Buy back the 407 and continue building transit simultaneously. It's not an "either or" scenario.

[@Lalli923]

So he has some builder friends who can build tunnels too

[@JaneMurray-di3gq]

Yep he’s greasing the palms of his buddies.

[@skeena59]

The same developers building over the green belt and Science centre.

[@robertlee4172]

Elon's got the Boring company. He could weigh in.

[@benchean]

Pretty sure this guy really wants to be the mayor of Toronto and not the Premier of ONTARIO

[@deejay9730]

He's got a vendetta against Toronto, that's for sure

[@skeena59]

@@deejay9730 downtown Toronto to be exact.

[@robertlee4172]

There's still time for that. The Drug Fraud drive thru Sq. in Etobicoke.

[@BritneyWaldron]

Ontario is stuck in the 1980's. Nothing has evolved since then.

[@John_Stone_]

Except for mass immigration quotas... Those have evolved into a runaway nightmare.

[@fiverx2159]

Sure it has, back then no politician thought about selling the green belt to help their rich friends

[@Cutlass_Rudd]

80s? Try the 50's. Videos on youtube of the 401 and go trains - exact same as today. All those guys left and took jobs in the US

[@oo7chicken112]

@Cutlass_Rudd DVP I believe was built in the 70’s. And it wasn’t built for such high mass immigration levels. We need a tunnel for our economy and a tunnel we won’t have to worry about ice and snow. And who knows there could be a food court with a gas station built. With stairs leading to the train to pick ppl up carpooling. Build a dedicated tunnel for cyclist commuters.

[@growninfants7463]

How about this! Take a look at New York City’s infrastructure and let’s improve ours. They don’t have streetcars; they have their trains elevated above ground in case it snows, as well as their highways. An underground highway is a terrible idea. For Christ’s sake, we had some of the worst flooding this year. Cancel the 99-year contract for the 407 and return it to the Canadians who paid for it.

[@joejoe-the-original]

Elevated track are much higher maintenance costs than ground or underground transit. Salt and concrete and salt and steel eventually like to chemically react and crumble. New York less so than Toronto.

[@BrockVillain]

Lots of Toronto talk. The other 6 million of us would like you to do something in our areas also.

[@zokpls8712]

The rest of the area has no tax base and little economic productivity outside of farm land

[@JaneMurray-di3gq]

We don’t exist outside of the GTA.

[@matthewbugeya1401]

@BrockVillain Toronto resident here, I agree with you entirely, the north also needs more infrastructure projects put into it. They discussed adding the Northlander train again which would help link those communities, and there are a lot of other projects that could be proposed to link Northeners to where they want to go. I'd rather see over $100 billion go to that and upgrading your hospitals and infrastructure than having a second way to wait in 2 hour traffic between Mississauga and Oshawa.

[@CurtisAllen-t7g]

If you want to fight gridlock...get rid of the crazy tolls on 407

[@Erich2142]

407 wont help. Do you even think or you like to repeat the words of those who dont have heads?

[@CurtisAllen-t7g]

@Erich2142 don't cry ..there will be more saying it as well

[@Erich2142]

@@CurtisAllen-t7g Im not the one crying, you're

[@CurtisAllen-t7g]

@@Erich2142 take your dogs for a walk muffins

[@oo7chicken112]

@CurtisAllen-t7g We nor the Canadian gov own the 407. We need the tunnel. That is what the damn gov is suppose to do is two things. Build and maintain infrastructure and keep us safe. What we need to do is get rid of the mass immigration, fake refugees sent back to Syria now there is no war there and the other shit hole parts of world. We can’t be the wellfare system and open doors to the world. Same reason there is no affordable housing and lack of homes because immigration so high. Plus the tunnel should be used as a nuclear war shelter. JT is weak and shoots his mouth.

[@Silent-Alert]

Build the damn high speed rail, Europe has efficient system for 100 years

[@bluebottle1988]

They also have tunnels!

[@johns9969]

From Mississauga to Markham? Why?

[@macberg5806]

@@Silent-Alert Canada isn’t Europe mate. Our country is bigger than almost all of Europe combined. High speed rail is neither efficient or cost effective here. People really need to start wrapping their heads around this fact.

[@macberg5806]

@@johns9969 these people don’t know what they’re talking about. I’m guessing they haven’t thought of the fact they’d need to dig a tunnel for a high speed rail anywhere near the 401 also. High speed rail will need up costing more, not less, and end up being less versatile for the regular commuter.

[@Tasneemcommenting]

@@macberg5806 this argument is stupid as hell. The lower Ontario-Quebec belt holds like 70% of the entire population of Canada. These distances are equal to those in European highspeed rail. Building AND MAINTAINING highways forever and ever for no results is what is neither efficient or cost effective.

[@SmarkAngel]

Why are you doing a feasibility study - a study all about whether or something is a good idea - if you're already saying "we WILL get this thing built"? Have some sense man.

[@MichaelSheaAudio]

Adding more lanes will not work. It has never worked. To reduce commute times, you need to reduce traffic. To reduce traffic, you need to increase alternatives. You also need more cities. You can't have every big business concentrated in one area, everyone who works there lives far away, and expect things to go smoothly. Don't waste our money on roads. Invest in high speed rail and mixed use neighborhoods.

[@clifflayne9073]

Just another proponent of the 15 minute city. Mass transit works for the masses, it doesn't work for individuals. Travel the world and learn about where we have been and where we are heading. Stay in a hotel in downtown Seoul. They have separate exits from the hotel to the streets, based on which direction you are heading. The reason for this is that when you pass through the doors, masses of human bodies are passing by, either going left or right and once you step into that traffic, you move as part of the masses, like rafting on a river, it's next to impossible to head upstream. That's where we are heading. The solution is not mass transit or more expansion, it's less mass, or less people. Restrict immigration and the problem goes away.

[@MichaelSheaAudio]

@@clifflayne9073 Jumping around Seoul in google street view, I could see that the streets are very similar in design to Japan. Not Just Bikes has a recent video on Tokyo's streets that is worth a watch, even the video on Taipei. You are fearmongering about walkable neighborhoods. A life where we wouldn't need to get into a car that costs us thousands of dollars every year and go sit in air-polluted traffic just to get groceries. No one wants that. Let me know if you enjoy sitting in traffic, enjoy paying thousands for your vehicle annually, enjoy the thousands of road deaths every year, enjoy how your city has to be built around car priority. You say transit is built for the masses, and that's correct. It's a way more efficient method of moving people, it's not even close. However, without adequate transit, where do the masses end up? On the road taking up space from people who actually want or need to be there. This isn't a war on cars, cars will still exist, they still have their uses. Cars would just be one of many viable modes of transportation instead of the only one. The fact that Ontario doesn't have a provincial rail line is pathetic. People should be able to go from Windsor to Ottawa and anywhere in between without driving or flying. And that's just the main line. Connections to London, Niagara Falls, Kitchener/Waterloo, Guelph, Brampton, Newmarket, Barrie, everywhere would have a connection. Such a network would take a huge load off of the 401 and roads in general. If you personally want to live in a big house on a big lot in a car dependent suburb and drive literally everywhere because you're segregated from amenities, then go for it, that exists. For the rest of us, I'm cool with a small home that's a 5 minute walk from the grocery store. 👍

[@JohnElcome]

Why wouldn’t we just buy back the 407? I’m sure the price will be similar

[@JohnElcome]

It will cost 100’s of billions

[@stephenstaeger1888]

Why don't we buy the 407 back? All the trucks can use it.

[@martyr791]

This guy will say just about anything

[@MagnetOnlyMotors]

What about on/ off ramps. Ventilation, flood prevention, lighting. It’ll need to be a hundred feet under all the heavy vibration of the 401……. 😢😢

[@77WHeavy]

Does Premier Quimby not understand the concept of induced demand?

[@joanjobs4359]

He doesn't yet, because as usual they announce first and explore the feasabiltity second.

[@slwide7507]

Another option is to give incentives for businesses to move out to the suburbs. That will cut down commuting time of some of the workers.

[@thedude9486]

Hey a Canadian news outlet that keeps comments on. Weird

[@JD-ws2cu]

Let's cause more flooding by getting rid of more soakable ground.

[@oo7chicken112]

@JD-ws2cu You must not be a builder or engineer.

[@Buddy_Kryyst]

This is like trying to one up the Monorail episode of the Simpsons. This is no plan this is a shotgun in the dark.

[@bandido.T.O]

Lmao tunnel ? People can even drive in a dry day without crashes imagen the amount of accidents in that tunnel lmao

[@marshferguson4737]

Stuck in a tunnel behind an accident? No thanks! Could you imagine if it rained at the same time?!!

[@bandido.T.O]

@@marshferguson4737 🤣

[@MrStivi1981]

Clear up traffic? Encourage businesses to let people work from home. Won't cost a cent.

[@fahds2583]

it would cost the ego of the Managers though. They miss not being able to boss people around

[@JaneMurray-di3gq]

Not every job can be done at home. Office work yes. What about store cashiers, waiter and waitresses, stores etc. better for people to live closer to their jobs or be able commute by reliable public transit.

[@CoreioPhone]

Hmm. Or just buy out what is left on 407 lease and use 407 for what it was SUPPOSED to do, allow trucks and other traffic to bypass GTA 401. 407 is never busy and doesnt help enough with what it was to do

[@johngawrylash7732]

When selling off the half empty 407 , too expensive to drive on now , just isn't cutting it . The Province controls both ends of the 407 and they charge a toll to drive on it . If they take the toll charge off the sections under their control , it wouldn't be so expensive and more drivers would use that existing road . Do you have any idea what this would cost the taxpayers ? This would be 10 times more expensive than anything the Liberals did in Ontario . This guy has to go .

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

That was 30 years ago. "407. The Progressive Conservative government of premier Mike Harris sold Highway 407 to a Spanish consortium for $3.1 billion in May 1999. Premier Doug Ford says the Progressive Conservative government of Mike Harris took a wrong turn in 1999 when it privatized Hwy.May 21, "

[@dtgpsinc.4289]

@@robertcampomizzi7988 Just as it was a mistake to pour seniors and provincial money into privatized nursing homes... one such nursing home, making CEO Mike Harris, very wealthy. Today, Mike Harris's wife is owner of privatized nursing company, selling nursing back to the province of Ontario, making the Harris's more wealthy; while Ontarians pay much more for nursing than in public health care. Ford will admit privatized nursing and privatized health care were a mistake....when he is y in privatized nursing home.

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

@dtgpsinc.4289 Mike Harris was a former teacher. He screwed them too. I'm not fan of Harris. I wasn't trying to cover for him.

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

@dtgpsinc.4289 "Ontario Premier Doug Ford has signed a $3.1-billion health-care deal with the federal government to increase access to primary care and reduce wait times. The agreement was announced by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau late Friday morning, making Ontario the fifth province to come to an agreement with Ottawa for its share of a $200-billion health accord. Under the agreement, Ontario has pledged to add hundreds of new family physicians and nurse practitioners, as well as thousands of nurses and personal support workers to fill staffing shortages. The funding will also be used to remove barriers for internationally trained doctors, add five new Youth Wellness Hubs, and address gaps in Indigenous health-care services." Feb. 9, 2024 10:56 a.m. EST

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

@dtgpsinc.4289 I don't even care about Ford. I care about the truth. I just don't take opinions like yours as fact. I do my own research 🙄

[@davismavis2834]

People will get out of their cars when public transit is cheaper than car ownership AND not far off on convenience. Right now the convenience factor is so terrible that the cost almost doesn't matter.

[@CritCommanda]

What has he done as premier besides existing? What in Ontario hasn't eroded or imploded after 6 years of Doug Ford?

[@jumbome7420]

lol you’d have to be Canadian to know and not a foreign troll

[@CritCommanda]

@@jumbome7420 sounds like you can't think of a single thing he's accomplished as premier, and by your definition that would make you a foreign troll. Do you get paid in rice or vodka?

[@cantfindausernamedam]

@@jumbome7420 aside from his accepting bribes, pushing thru Bill 100 and Bill 7 ? He is as corrupt as the crime minister

[@Sam19509]

Bro he got rid of the license plate sticker fee and now I can buy a White Claw at the Gas station as early as 7am and as late as 11pm.😂😂

[@rfjohns4452]

​@@Sam19509 Well,that certainly is the reason to spend billions so Doug Ford's cronies get become richer.

[@acet.4536]

Another stupid idea, just take back 407 and problem solved.

[@pawelurbaniak2844]

lol ... we cant get a subway to the biggest airport in the country and he wants a tunnel for another highway????

[@jeremybenoit759]

You mean the subway that already exists and does infact go to the airport? If your not aware of this your probably new here and will be seeing it soon enough

[@eudaemonicc]

@@jeremybenoit759there’s literally not a subway to the airport bro what lol. There’s the UP express that costs like an arm & a leg compared to TTC fare, just to get from bloor or union to Pearson

[@joelorincz7802]

Why would you need a subway when you already have the under-used UP express?

[@eudaemonicc]

@@joelorincz7802 we need high speed rail thru all of the country. I’m personally not focused on a subway to the airport when yes, there’s the UP express. I just said there’s not a subway to the airport because there indeed isn’t. Doesn’t mean I’m for or against it.

[@BremboT]

Expanding across 4 cities, if not 5. Guy is crazy. I don't know what deals he made with his developer mob friends, but he's finished come next election. He's clearly unserious.

[@twalke407]

It could double as a pool depending on the weather.

[@Glenn-x3t]

imagine a fire and vehicle accidents in a tunnel of that size.

[@oo7chicken112]

@Glenn-x3t You obviously watched the movie Daybreak. It was all an act. Not real.

[@projectmanagement1773]

The tunnel is a good idea. But first, they should get rid of the army of government employees to save funds for the tunnel.

[@bobcrane9945]

Dougy has spent billions cancelling contracts like the wind turbines why can't he take back the 407?

[@terrylazurko2476]

And the McGinty and Winn government have given $1 Billion to a company to build a gas plant in Oakville. Money is gone, NO gas plant. Then they spent another $1 Billion in another area. Electricity is more expensive while the Winn government has given liberal friends money for wind and solar. NO government is perfect but other governments have F@CKED taxpayers. Don't forget that.

[@oo7chicken112]

@bobcrane9945 Wind turbines are HORRIBLE. Do your research on the stupid ass massive things.

[@darleneaitken1620]

It's funny. I suggested this a couple of weeks ago while on the 401.

[@fahds2583]

Toronto downtown doesn't have factories. Majority are glass office buildings. Tell more people to work from home. Simple!

[@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu]

I suppose the commuting routes where the 401 is a feeder for the highways leading to the actual downtown contribute to congestion, but I have doubts that's even a big chunk of the traffic that's already on the highway.

[@lodnam]

the 401 doesn't even go downtown.

[@dealman3312]

Just look to Tokyo and what they do. Great highways, great subway. 👍

[@robvonroenn3245]

Nice to know my Northwestern Ontario taxes are being spent down south. What a joke....

[@CaptApril123]

That's an excellent point. For less money you could link up many small North Ontario towns and they could benefit from people who want to work remotely or simply vacation to.

[@connorbranscombe6819]

Im pretty sure Doug Ford and the cons literally dont know what Northern Ontario is lol, as someone else in the comments said, seems like he doesn't know Ontario stretches beyond Scarborough.

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

Do ypu think small towns don't get big town taxes? It goes into a pot... arr you not going to get broadband from this deal? Or?? Are your roads undrivable?

[@lodnam]

Your municipality would go bankrupt in a year without southern Ontario tax revenue. You do know that the entire Northern Ontario is getting massive handouts from money collected in the GTA right?

[@matthewgarrow6982]

Buy the 407

[@missylynn9180]

We can't afford food or housing- maybe we should help our residents first

[@oo7chicken112]

@missylynn9180 Once TYRANT JT is gone and Pierre in, Pierre will immediately end the killer Carbon tax which will immediately lower costs of anything trucked or shipped, stock market improve, build a pipeline to have our own very very very affordable fuel wnd natural gas to heat our homes, ship our natural gas over to Europe snd Asia ($$$ for Canada economy) Get our Lumber industry back that Trudeau ruined, produce our own lumber, Ammunition, Steel and HEMP. We have HOPE with Pierre Poilievre. Listen and pay attention to what he says. - Love, your fellow Canadian.

[@pd9163]

Tunnel with flooding rains?......Not a good idea

[@oo7chicken112]

@pd9163 obviously your not a builder or architect.

[@ChrisFotosMusic]

So when will the tunnel be at capacity? Are we spending billions of dollars to push the problem back ten years?

[@The2ndavepete]

I want high speed rail from Windsor to Quebec city but it doesn't look like that will ever happen.

[@sadiqali5539]

free 407 please

[@ishkaranbrar313]

No

[@northstar1060]

how about undoing the 407 giveaway .......15 billion dollar highway sold to unknown persons for pennies on the dollar

[@scottshields250]

By the time all of this gets built we're gonna be up to a trillion in dept and at capacity ... also schools and hospitals don't do anything for us when there's nobody to staff them.

[@oo7chicken112]

@scottshields250 Mass immigration brother things will get much worse and we need to do something about the traffic. We need to build the tunnel and deport a ton or illegals and fake refugees and put better sanctions on Chinese crap. The more jobs and ppl working will help our country and trickle out to all the other businesses.

[@musicmann555]

Make the 407 free...such a waste of money

[@ishkaranbrar313]

No. It's the only usuable road in the GTA. Can't ruin that too..

[@salvadornally]

He only cares about Toronto, what about the rest of us who don't live in Toronto.

[@scottyP1672]

Tunnels are delusional for current infrastructure. The best way to build would be to take an empty space, build a city and fill it.

[@TheJlee28]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 or make infrastructure in rural areas. He’s talking super city plan which will enslave us.

[@hurstshiftin9873]

Exactly the place is far to maxed out long ago!!

[@gervanmyers3066]

Have you traveled to any countries that most of their travel is UNDERGROUND SERVICES.

[@gervanmyers3066]

​@@TheJlee28about time modern show off feels what being a SLAVE is like.

[@vg3348]

"high speed train"... better than a tunnel under 401 and probably cheaper initially .. and in the long run?

[@justsayin5609]

Spend, spend, spend. I wonder which of his buddies will benefit this plan? There's always an angle with him.

[@dbeaulieu9730]

Is he paying for it with greenbelt land?

[@SirThomas1212]

Talking from his ass again without using any common sense. We have hwy 407 already, why not open it for public use without fee and it will immediately ease the traffic on 401! I guess he wants to get more $$$.

[@kenmandeville3467]

Offer incentives for companies to re locate to Northern Ontario regions.

[@jayblackshire]

Let me know where I can buy a house up there and have reliable internet so I can work remote and I'll pack my bags. I'm sick of being down here with rising prices for fewer services. If there was a program in Ontario for first time home buyers to put zero down on some sort of government owned home in Northern Ontario instead of paying 1400 - 2100$ for a one bedroom apartment in the southern region, we'd see a lot more movement.

[@cellphone7223]

People who live in Northern Ontario dont want you city slickers up there. All slickers do is bring their city lifestyle, noise, pollution and BS to the North.

[@DanR-r9x]

I think we should send all the new immigrants to northern Ontario to develop our north and stop the grid lock in Toronto!

[@CathieDalziel]

He's a neighbourhood killer. More traffic, more cars, more pollution, less greenery. It would kill him to think outside his box of transportation and beer. We need to look at more European style planning of neighborhood communities, work where you live, shop within walking distance, etc. his plans are turning Ontario into U.S. style cities where nobody lives and they just commute into the downtown area. None of this bodes will for climate change and future sustainablity.

[@Sam19509]

lol thanks to Ford you can walk to a nearby corner store or gas gas station to buy some beers and wine. You don’t have to commute to the dreadful lcbo, beer store or wine rack.😂😂

[@l.a9974]

He’s trump 2.0

[@derek89273]

Do you own a car Karen?

[@macberg5806]

No one cares about climate or “sustainability”. The only people who speak like that are the rich and privileged. NORMAL people care about FEEDING THEIR DAMILIES. That’s 1000x more important than the goofy carbon tax, that does NOTHING to actually help the environment. It’s just a tax scam that id eots like yourself support. Pollievre already has a plan that makes 1000x more sense than a carbon tax: planting trees with a small tax on gas. We don’t need these ridiculous anti car actions. Go suck it dude.

[@zackfair711]

​@@derek89273funny you ask that, maybe make plans so that people won't need a car? Or would you rather just pay your monthly payments on car loans, maintenance, parking, gas, and car insurance? I guess you don't like more money in your pocket 🤷‍♂️

[@alterego7739]

We need a bonafide monorail

[@oo7chicken112]

@alterego7739 This isn’t the stupid simpsons. Stop watching cartoons and come back to reality man.

[@alterego7739]

@@oo7chicken112 it was a joke 🤣

[@johns9969]

Get rid of those dumb bike lanes on major roads. I biked to work - but used trails and side streets. No major roads.

[@oo7chicken112]

I also am a cyclist and hate bike lanes. Much safer on road then bike lanes as vehicles are more focused on the road then bike lanes. Plus more cyclists the safer the roads.

[@coocookachoo2806]

Were putting your great grandchildren in debt like never before.

[@oo7chicken112]

@coocookachoo2806 It will help move our economy and create jobs. Tyrant JT need to remove the gatekeepers and let companies build. It will create TONS of jobs, where the employees make money and it will trickle throughout the city. Must understand how business and economy works to understand that we will be, ‘GOODER”.

[@oldebill1807]

Hmm, adding more roads wouldn't perchance benefit Developers would it? Naw, that couldn't be a factor in the Premier's enthusiasm for increasing traffic volumes.

[@foamer443]

Well id it doesn't, it will certainly benefit his buddies with the Ontario Roadbuilders Assc.

[@geoffreyyoung5419]

What about buying the 407 back this the tunnel is a good idea this should of been done many years ago

[@lukesmith9144]

Most traffic problems could be alleviated if people learned how to drive

[@Justin-uc8sc]

That will never happen

[@oo7chicken112]

@lukesmith9144 Deport a bunch of illegals and fake refugees. And sent back to now safe countries like f’g Syria.

[@neeluswar]

That would be detrimental to make tunnel.

[@simonhunter8338]

An all steal deck above the 401 for a train and cars (no trucks) might just be doable. A tunnel under is an engineering nightmare. This makes Doug look like a fool.

[@foamer443]

Oh he achieved that with the failed Greenbelt sleight of hand trick.

[@jpeterd92]

A tunnel is a far better long-term solution, no it's not going to be the cheapest solution in the short term but for a major piece of infrastructure like that it is the short-sightedness of Band-Aid fixes that causes all the problems we have now, I've never been a supporter of the conservatives but this makes sense this is what should be done not to mention all of the good paying jobs that it'll provide.

[@annieD67]

Doug is certainly working on our highways - the areas where construction has already been completed, are fantastic! He has his faults for sure but the infrastructure work is great. Bring in more Private surgeries too Doug - not everyone wants to keep waiting endlessly for surgery!

[@sudhirkami1595]

Highway 401 renovations every summer is another major cause for bottleneck at prime locations between airport to yorkdale. After renovation is complete they are open for breif period and back to Reno again. Building new tunnel highway will it go through multiple renovations after opening?

[@NoMercy888]

Give incentives for companies to push employees towards remote work! Get people off the roads who are just going to sit in an office when they could be working from home.

[@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu]

Government doesn't want that either. It hurts the businesses around downtown that are dependent on office drone traffic.

[@oo7chicken112]

@NoMercy888 Typical NDP voter who wants to sit on their fa’at rump and get paid more money for less work while being at home.

[@derek89273]

Well that would solve the flooding issues.

[@lizliz4186]

Yet again, Doug Ford tells us that he doesn't understand that Ontario extends beyond Scarborough.

[@TheJlee28]

He was an Etobicoke councillor 😂😂😂

[@jimallen8319]

We need a MONORAIL!

[@maxsoap5650]

I pay 3k a month for an apartment.. fix the god damn hosing situation

[@jeroliver]

Millions more people are on their way and they'll out bid you. It's about to get much much worse.

[@brentfoster9138]

The landlord cartels are campaign contributors. That would be biting the hand that feeds him

[@oo7chicken112]

@maxsoap5650 Go complain to tyrant JT and Sell Out Singh about the housing cost. Had nothing to do with ford. I’m F’g hurting also man! Axe the Tax! Build a pipeline and stop mass immigration and do a massive deportation of illegals and fake refugees. We have a housing crisis because mass immigration drive the housing costs up and bastard liberal and NDP knowing they buy up a bunch of property to get RICH. COME TO THE SIDE OF THE CONSERVATIVES TO BRING HOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS BROTHER!

[@oo7chicken112]

@jeroliver I agree and that is what I told our Canadian brother, Brother. FJT! F Sell Out Singh!! Bring it home!!

[@darkangelkate3950]

Just one question ..WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR THE HOMELESS,???!!

[@pinocircular9913]

Underground home less ...maybe not so homeless anymore ...roof over their head homeless

[@veggietrish]

Of course a troll wants a tunnel.

[@toptechtowing6340]

Not with the construction companies we use. Can't even keep roads longer than 6 months

[@justinfidelcastro2861]

HIGH SPEED TRAINS STUPID!

[@YourrandomComrade]

How are they stupid?

[@Nivin-ut8zg]

Why are you gay?( African accent)

[@geelangfordo3272]

High speed trains are great to link different cities it doesnt do much when you have a stop every 2 km.

[@bluebottle1988]

If you start with something simple (i.e. a tunnel and a road), then technically it would be feasible to build something more complex such as underground trains that run parallel. This sounds like a pretty ambitious project and hope it the best of success since it would have significant benefits to the Toronto area and also to other development ideas such as trains.

[@johngawrylash7732]

i only watched the first minute and read the headline . I can't listen to this clown anymore . Lifes too short .

[@alejandroerrico8295]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 another 100 years construction

[@isabellagamk]

As you can see by the comments on here that most people don't agree with Doug Ford. Doug Ford, So-Not for the People!

[@jameskirk8649]

They cant even keep up with potholes i dont want to play "excitebike" in a tunnel. That sounds terrifying.

[@l.a9974]

All he wants to do is build highways !!! Fix something worth SUBSTANCE

[@marshferguson4737]

Don't take the tunnel if it's raining!

[@ravenstarver1360]

4 billion for broadband? Starlink is available now. Could buy a dish for every Canadian without internet for less than 1 billion.

[@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu]

Counterpoint ... that's money in Musk's pocket.

[@freddyluvless1063]

@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu and your point?

[@leeuwestein101]

@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu and musk is in the u.s.a's goverment pocket... no thank you

[@keeifstevens3177]

407? Let’s talk about that instead of a pipe dream of a tunnel lol. Even if it’s so able it would take 30 years the way construction goes down in the GTA.

[@Sam19509]

Ford is lying about Crombie. She never said she would cancel the gas tax cut and Ford’s own Finance Minister is the one who keeps saying it is temporary and we are only renewing it for this amount of time.😂😂

[@JaneMurray-di3gq]

Yeah til the next election.

[@Sam19509]

@@JaneMurray-di3gq Ford lied about cutting provincial income taxes. He promised cuts in 2018 then skipped talking about them in the 2022 campaign.

[@Sam19509]

@@JaneMurray-di3gq the gas tax money a large portion is usually spent on provincial transfers to municipalities for infrastructure, public transit and housing initiatives like homeless shelter spaces. When the gas tax is cut on one end the municipalities make up the deficit in their provincial transfers by hiking property taxes higher than they could be. There is only one taxpayer.

[@dantecallingham7069]

remember when california tried to do this and then completely failed ?

[@mikesweetland7313]

It doesn’t mean Ontario will.

[@cantfindausernamedam]

a government that builds. Maybe he should spend that billions on housing being built, not surverys and studies