Dovetail Saw | DIY Inexpensive Dovetail Saw

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

watch Rob make his limited edition saw here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2LPmnWEZrmpY5I

[@nutsmcflurry3737]

A master craftsman that can explain his abilities, to someone who has very limited knowledge of the craft, is a beautiful thing.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Thanks so much

[@sueb4154]

I'm so happy that the very beginning of my woodworking interest started with these most valuable lessons. Thank you Rob!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Thanks sue B.....

[@dale1956ties]

Here's a guy who sells his own line of dovetail saws presumably as at least a part of his livelihood giving us a detailed, step-by-step process for making one of our own from an inexpensive saw that someone else sells. If anyone thinks Rob's heart is not in the right place I feel sorry for them. When he says he wants to take your woodworking skills to the next level, It's my opinion that you can believe it at face value. Thank you Rob.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I really appreciate that...I believe in the motto, take care of others and they will take care of me!

[@samehdarawshi3537]

perfectly described

[@TheHomeMaker1]

Thank you Rob I really appreciate it o have a full size cheap dovetail saw and the mini one also I am still learning and have now cut about 30+ sets of dovetails both practice joints and drawer sides for the shop furniture and I am currently saving up for a high end saw from you!! There amazing and I’ve watched numerous reviews and all is good I can’t wait to be able to get one of your saws mine both work the full size and mini file handle saws and with this video I made both work 10 times better than factory! Thank you again for the amazing content it’s been completely life changing as far as my shop time and woodworking!

[@Rigus208]

Reruns yes, it never hurts to be reminded of a good thing. Hope you’re doing well stay safe .

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

will be back soon

[@kevinprufer8784]

Rob, I’m addicted to your videos. Retiring in 3 weeks and about a year ago I decided to do a little woodworking in the future, outdoor furniture, some deck repairs. Not much of a room for a proper wood shop so it’s been benchtop tools to set up in a screened in porch. Tried my hand at small boxes for Christmas gifts with simple miter joints with spline joints. I did ok, but watching you, I am going to try the dovetails in the future. I am really looking forward to trying this!! Thanks for the basics as well as the high end techniques! Kevin

[@davidpalmer5166]

I retired last January. Oh boy, you're not gonna believe how nice it is.

[@Andrea-bw8xm]

I remember this lesson and that all throughout this journey, these concepts have been repeated..tried and true. .one thing that stood out was the modification to the straight handle to improve registration in the hand ....can't say I saw that repeated as the pistol grip is by far the preferred style for very consistent and confident sawing... Here, Rob gave that handle a chance to be usable.. Wishing you all the best. Not wanting to make assumptions, but ...figured Covid was the culprit for the interruption in content. Just take good care to get everyone healthy and strong and know i am (we are) looking forward to your return. I for one like the refresher course!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

trying to stay healthy

[@AJB326]

I love me some RC don’t get me wrong and his old stuff is gold but what’s up with all the reruns? Am I stuck in the twilight zone? Only permissible excuse is that Rob is vacationing on a warm beach somewhere.

[@michaelbaykara2322]

that yellow camera filter is especially easy on the eyes

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Its all COVID related, fresh videos coming soon.

[@criswilson1140]

Filing a flat registration spot on those file handles is definitely a good tip.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

It makes a big difference

[@pawpawstew]

This is a great video. I greatly respect the quality of the pro grade dovetail saw you product. Yet, it's really geared for someone who is more of a pro level fine woodworker or someone who aspires to be. For a home hobbyist, though, the cost may not be justifiable. This option shows a great way for someone to enter the world of dovetails economically. Thanks for giving your audience options that work for everyone.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You bet.....I understand the journy

[@adamhass8522]

Love the vintage content

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

We will be back shortly

[@leehaelters6182]

Another aid to gauging verticality on a saw file is a thin block fitted over the tip of the file using a d-shaped hole with the flat side of the hole parallel to the block edge. A d-shaped hole?!? Just drill the hole close to the edge, then plane the edge away to expose the hole to the dimension of the flat needed. Glue back a chip to close the hole, and Bob's yer uncle! From Fine Woodworking Magazine, years ago.

[@lor191ric]

The pleasure i get from building with hand tools is all thanks to you and the videos that you have posted. Thank you and I hope you and your family are all recovering. P.S. upon getting a decent pistol grip dovetail saw I turned my old gent saw into a Kerf-x 10

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

That's a great reuse idea

[@DavePawson]

Excellent, thank you.

[@DraganIlich-r1s]

Thank you Sir

[@rickcheckland]

It is possible to approximate the smaller starting teeth on the cosman saw by changing his filing method. For the first inch of the saw file the face of the tooth leaning back 10 degrees rather than 90 degrees as RC recommends.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

yes you can relaxe the angle of the tooth by the way you hold the file

[@dpmeyer4867]

thanks

[@hassanal-mosawi4235]

Thanks for sharing those tips and the make!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

you bet

[@kbarker3606]

Thanks for posting this video.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

you bet

[@briantheprion]

Dang how fast time flies…

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

very

[@lint2023]

Fantastic information. Thanks.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Your welcome

[@Мастеримиздревесины]

Thanks. An interesting lesson. Hello from Russia.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

wow thanks for watching.

[@danielpittman889]

Waiting for them to use the word FLEAM for the Wordle puzzle.

[@silenthill5794]

Throwback thursday ? err Tuesday

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

yes, but I will be back shortly

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Lingering effects of covid, we shot our first “new” video yesterday, it’s been a month!

[@roryconiglione9486]

Wow older Rob has much better Audio than younger Rob

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

older rob has a much better mic

[@harmbooij8241]

Just wondering what kind of hair dye you use, it is seemless, looks realy natural. :P

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Its called good genes

[@lilfear]

do you still make all your saws in house...even the ones sold at woodcraft?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Yes we do, everyone made right here in my shop

[@darinhalvorsen]

As alway, great stuff, Rob. Miss that old shop. A few questions: when and how do you set your teeth with these small teeth? Do you know of a set that does 12-20 tpi that is still in production? Or do you just use a hammer/punch method? A video on setting small saw teeth would be greatly appreciated as it doesn’t really exist on KZbin. Sellers sort of has a half assed one, but it’s got his old man philosophical ramblings mucking up the information (not to say old man ramblings aren’t entertaining or instructional-we all hope to be there someday.) Second, would it be feasible to attach a pistol grip to one of these gentlemanly saws for accuracy or control? I get it wouldn’t make sense cost/effort wise vs. buying a good saw in the first place, but say one had a few old ones lying around and time on their hands?

[@whittysworkshop982]

There are not really saw sets on the market to produce the minimal set that you need for certain work. For fine teeth the hammer in your pliers needs to be modified or it will press on the neighbouring tooth. There are videos showing how to modify the hammer; I will not go into it here or this txt will become very long 😂 but it is easy work on the Eclipse 77 style saw setting pliers 🤙 To get the tiny set needed, the trick is to set the saw before sharpening. Filing the teeth removes set, so you set the saw first on the finest setting of your pliers, and then each stroke of the file will remove some of that set. A maintenance sharpening; usually only takes 1 stroke of the file, and we dont need to set the teeth. When the saw needs to be re-set in the sharpening schedule; then to start with take 2 strokes with the file after it has been set, and then test the saw. If it's still too much set you can take another stroke with the file over the whole plate.... repeat until you are close; but if you get a squeaky binding saw then you have filed too much and need to start again with setting. If the saw isnt tracking straight then it needs to be stoned on the side its pulling to. Once it tracks straight then you are done. I would avoid bending the set out of a saw; it will weaken the teeth. File it out during sharpening, and stone off the set at the end to make it straight 😁 Teeth can also be hammer set, with an anvil and a punch with a slightly rounded end, not a "pointed" punch, more like a drifting punch with the edges at the end rounded over slightly. Either the anvil can be flat and the saw plate is elevated off the anvil by the amount of set you want, or a small bevel can be ground on to the face of the anvil near the edge and the toothline overhangs this bevel to create the set. The hammer setting method is heavy on skills required; every tap of the hammer has to be consistent enough, placing the punch on the tooth about 2/3rds the way up from the root of the tooth and centered, and holding the punch at a very slight angle....... all this takes practice and practice takes time. Then you adjust the set as before with a stone. Setting a saw with a pliers is the easiest and most effective way to do it, the hammer method takes time to learn and you will make lots of mistakes at first........ I'd only practice hammer setting teeth on saws that were old and already had messed up teeth, or saws that you dont care about that are only gonna be turned into scrapers one day 🤙 It's common to have 2 setting pliers, one modified for small teeth, and one normal for average teeth 😁

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Whiity gives a good answer on the saw set, however I would be reluctant to set or sharpen my 22 TPI starter teeth, they actually work better a little dull

[@leehaelters6182]

Tage Frid's technique was to twist a small screwdriver in the gullets of really fine teeth.

[@jcoul1sc]

2K video - did you have a really good quality camera or was it upgraded video? Great video, classic Rob eh?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

We had a good quality camera

[@lounackman6104]

Sadly some of the cheap saws are impulse hardened (you can sometimes tell by a blue discoloration at the teeth) and can't be filed.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You are absolutely right and I should have talked about that

[@davidpalmer5166]

What happened to your hair? Thanks

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