DP/30: Scorsese on The Wolf of Wall Street

A conversation with living legend Martin Scorsese about his newest film, his perception of himself, his motivations and demotivations to make films, critics, who paid the overage on The Aviator, new movie tech, and more.

[@charlietriestocheer6795]

He was 71 years old when this was filmed. That man is SOOO young spirited. I love him :D

[@JediFan421]

One of the best interviews anyone has EVER done with Scorsese. This channel is easily one of my favorite channels on KZbin.

[@CocoonClub360]

Thats my first video from DP/30 and i thought the same - really nice interview

[@sumanprasad9760]

nice

[@basehead617]

What I love about Scorsese is that he will talk to someone in an interview like this in a casual way the he would talk to a friend or pretty much anyone, no guardedness.

[@JHallenbeck]

One of the single most insightful interviews with Martin I have ever seen. You let him speak and asked him incisive questions that he could just roll with. Love these interviews!

[@tarnopol]

Seriously. You elicited wonderfully illuminating and thoughtful responses. Excellent.

[@KajiCarson]

He was also merely in a good and talkative mood that morning, which shows. Sometimes creatives can be very moody and insular but this was fortunate. Agreed, this is an exceptional interview!

[@blakebard]

I love the way he was watching the camera man, you could tell his intensity just from that small moment.

[@PeterZeeke]

feel bad for that camera man, whats he gonna say?

[@TurfWarrior]

@@PeterZeeke This was the greatest day of my life

[@LOGOS422]

Cinematic genius. And a nice down-to-earth man.

[@vinceniederman3235]

LOGOS422 Yeah He's Like Steven Spielberg Very Nice Polite Gets His Thoughts Together In His Speech and He And Spielberg Are Life Long Friends!

[@TylerANDBABE]

wow..the last 4 minutes when he says "who am i" "who are we".....fuckin brought a tear to my eye. This guy is one of the most down to earth men on the planet.

[@pman8478]

I know it's ridiculous and he actually feels genuine with it

[@darkwing954]

Martin Scorsese's birthday is today. 72 years young and still going. Thanks for all of the brilliant work.

[@RyanGiggsOBE]

Every time someone ever mentions Scorsese, the first thing I think off is that long take in Goodfellas. Such a great film maker and seems really down to earth.

[@dangerousaniimals]

Love how open Scorsese is to talking about his life and career. Cool to see an icon be such an incredibly genuine person.

[@jasonsundaram1378]

One of the best directors of all time

[@cicranelnaz]

The best!

[@nafireid7215]

JASON SUNDARAM Just average

[@brianmcgahan217]

​@@nafireid7215 Below average youtube comment

[@BhagyanagarRE]

@@brianmcgahan217 lol

[@NxDoyle]

Stunning insight!

[@PANDAPILCH]

I love it when Martin Scorsese laughs.....it is so infectious.

[@JeremySolomon]

i love when he talks about Ebert, God rest him. if anyone is fascinated by Scorsese's films and likes Ebert's reviews - read the book that Roger Ebert wrote about Scorsese. really fascinating to read as an aspiring writer/director.

[@XanderShiller]

Marty's laugh is as hypnotic as his eyebrows.

[@victordomort2638]

That noise he makes with his mouth at 25:53 gets me eveytime. No wonder how much he likes fast transitions, narration and a bunch of dialogue in his movies.

[@TheGuym619]

one of the best interviews by any person ever...learned a lot in this 30 minutes

[@DaveNoodles]

"It has to make sense... Whatever that is" Great interview.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Sense = money

[@lamentate07]

As for legacy, it's true that Scorsese's impact on film language, on film form, cannot be compared to that of Godard, Antonioni, Tarkovsky, Jancso etc, but in terms of his impact on pop culture, and on narrative cinema, he will definitely be remembered for his vital contributions.

[@lamentate07]

***** Don't agree they are 'boring', but yes their appeal is obviously limited.They are more intensely focused on film form and less concerned with narrative and character, although they aren't completely unconcerned with it, in the same way that Scorsese isn't unconcerned with film form. They just use aspects of the medium to achieve totally different ends. I wouldn't argue that Scorsese is inherently inferior because he isn't a formalist, but when it comes to talking about film language, he isn't a person i would bring up in a discussion unless the subject was about modern narrative film.

[@johnmolina3284]

***** Your comment makes me wonder just how much film knowledge you actually have. I'm sorry. Godard was a pretentious blowhard. Antonioni was chic for a while but then lost influence. Tarkovsky was a true poet and visionary. I've only seen one of Jansco, probably only he is truly "boring" out of the group.

[@lamentate07]

John Molina Was your comment directed at me or Peeeons? Because if you are questioning my film knowledge, bring it on! As for Antonioni losing influence, i don't think so. Antonioni's use of space to convey alienation is still a common technique used today, even among some commercial directors like Michael Mann.

[@lamentate07]

***** Peeeons, some of those older film makers take time to appreciate. Their appeal isn't necessarily instant. Don't rush it. I suggest just going through their films slowly. One film isn't enough to judge Tarkovsky in my view, but at least you have taken the plunge.

[@somberlight]

dios bananos i have hard time with godard. Kurosawa is a god, hitch is hitch, Tarkovsky is fine all the way through, but godard. good lord. i feel like wrapping myself to a kilometre of tinfoil and rolling myself off of a staircase, all the the way down. why? i have no idea, but after seeing socialisme, that tinfoil thing feels somehow more sensible than forming a coherent thought about socialisme

[@retardedvaxxedliberal]

Marty's interviews are just as compelling as his films. I can't stop watching them.

[@maximiliansperber5243]

With an Interview being as great as this one I don't care about some issues with sound and camera. Wonderful Interview, thank you.

[@jmizzonini]

Seriously, these interviews are fantastic I feel like the subjects are guests in my home and just opening up to me.

[@shaunpearson7905]

I love that Scorsese mentioned Imamura in that list of great directors. A favourite Japanese director of mine, but not really well know like Kurosawa or Ozu.

[@johnmolina3284]

Well, he IS of a newet generation.

[@Lee_Forre]

I came here to check out a couple of minutes from the powerful Martin Scorcese and ended up watching the entire interview. Thanks for uploading. This is one of my favorite recent interviews with the master. Question for you: During the interview, how many people are in the room? Feels very intimate and closed, the set. On a separate note, would love it if Scorcese would do a Directors series documentary on his favorite directors. Listening to that man speak about film is a treat.

[@kenyam9460]

Ditto. I love to listen to him as well. You should check out "A Personal Journey With Martin Scorsese Through American Movies" It's a book and a documentary based on the book- both of which I've seen & read. He touches on the history of American cinema and some of his favorite directors place in that story. Definitely worth checking out. There's a chance your local library may have it (if you live in the US) or you can buy it on amazon like I did. I think it might even be uploaded here on KZbin. There's also cool interviews worth watching he did with Charlie Rose about Fellini and also an interview he did with Coppola etc.

[@leosylver7]

one of the best interviews, i didn't want it to end.

[@famuel2604]

I love scorsese. He deals with the nastiest characters in the most gentle and empathetic way. He can see into the mind of why the most awful actions are understandable in a certain situation

[@ItsFilmjunkie]

Whoa. You got scorsese, nice! Can't wait to watch this.

[@adriane20m06]

I love all of your interviews. It's really for film lovers, thank you

[@TauCetiAurora]

Scorsese seems like one of the nicest "big name" directors in the business. He still seems like a regular guy after being lauded and praised for so many years. He's a genius, but that hasn't effected his personality. I think it's sad to see him acknowledge that he's getting old and that he'd really like to make more films, but such is the nature of human life. One day you wind down and you have to accept that you need to be picky about what you want to make; you don't have the highest amount of energy to make those huge pictures anymore and undeniably each one could be your last

[@cremetangerine82]

I feel the same way about Steven Spielberg, he is so enthused about movies and is honest about himself.

[@NotAIike]

He really is a living legend :)

[@postmodernpictures]

Good interview. I think we're lucky that Scorsese gives so much time and thought explaining his process. He could easily make a movie every 5 years and not talk to anyone. He's a great teacher. This channel and KZbin is a valuable resource for filmmakers.

[@merlinjames5954]

15:45 he's been saying this for a WHILE, guys.

[@filmbuff2777]

I recently read a big book on him by Michael Henry Wilson, & in an interview he did with Scorsese in 1995, he voiced the same concerns.

[@CaptainMorganThe3rd]

I don't know how you get all these interviews, but God bless you for it

[@oedipax4]

Congrats on getting this interview! I'm just about to start watching.

[@timhorton7799]

I watch these just to pleasure myself with the unbound thoughts of brilliant minds

[@lancerfour]

this camera work hurts, but it's worth it. so much

[@Auntkekebaby]

Wonderful interview...again.

[@drale2k]

Feels so good to see a great interview after watching so many interviews done by interviewers who were talking more than the person interviewed.

[@chris_1337]

Sorry I'm commenting on all your videos, I just got sucked into the blackhole. Anyhow, thanks for the beautiful interviews. Your questions are absolutely spot on, incredible work!

[@TPF1138]

I'm gonna' wait to see the movie (it hasn't been released where I am yet) before I watch this, but I'm very pleased you got this interview. Lookin' forward to it...

[@ahegele]

this is a fantastic conversation, great job!

[@wattamutt]

Wolf of wall street should have won the Oscar for best picture. Goodfellas should have won and raging bull should have won best picture also.

[@bounceeer]

Oscars are not about the quality of the movie as much as is it about political preferences

[@imwishingyougodspeedglory7438]

+wattamutt I agree with you in the Godfellas and Raging Bull argument, but I disagree with you on The Wolf of Wall Street. 12 Years A Slave won in 2013 and deserving so. It deserves to be in discussion with The Godfather, On The Waterfront, ect. A "man amongst boys" type of film in my opinion. It was robbed of Best Actor, Best Director and Best Cinematography as well. With that being said, I love The Wolf of Wall Street, but they made the right choice that particular year.

[@lewiscranston881]

+UrbanArtist agreed

[@wattamutt]

I didnt like it at all. That whole "I will be clean" scene was torture to watch for me.

[@YouTube-tied]

@@wattamutt Which film is the "I will be clean" scene from?

[@sazopro]

This is a great KZbin Channel, but you guys need to fix that mic.

[@joshuanesbitt135]

This is Gold from one of the masters. Thanks for uploading this.

[@UlrichUlrich]

Whoa, you got Scorsese?! that's like interviewing God!. Props, Dave.

[@JoeSinopoli]

Congrats on this interview!

[@lynnturman8157]

Just recently watched WHO'S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR. Now he's the big Hollywood insider (or at least perceived as such). But watching his first feature, you really get a sense of somebody who was an outsider totally pushing the envelope in terms of narrative, editing, use of music, likability of the protagonist, etc. The true artists break the rules.

[@johnmolina3284]

The problem with WHO'S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR was that it was filmed over a period of two years, thereby losing continuity. ! (See commentary.) The problem with early Scorsese in general was the weak narrative structure: WHO'S THAT KNOCKING, BOXCAR BERTHA, MEAN STREETS.

[@lynnturman8157]

I agree about the narrative structure. But again, that's one of the ways Scorsese was breaking the rules. Granted, it's not accessible like yer typical Hollywood fare.

[@johnmolina3284]

Lynn Turman My understanding it was suppose to be or was his master's thesis under the tutelage/production of Haig Manoogian. The young and enthusiastic Scorsese was obviously influenced by Goddard, but five years later he's still doing the same in MEAN STREETS. It wasn't until ALICE that he had a more structured narrative.

[@lynnturman8157]

Isn't that the guy he dedicated RAGING BULL to? And I think Scorsese was influenced by a lot of people. You could spend a lifetime finding shots or setups or transitions, etc, that he "stole." But I agree with you that Scorsese (like many of the filmmakers of his generation) was heavily influenced by post WW2 European Cinema. He's said himself that that was the kind of movie he felt compelled to make as opposed to Hollywood classic cinema made during the Studio System (in spite of how much he loves those movies). That might've changed the last 10 or 15 years. As great as his later movies are (I LOVED Shutter Island & the Departed & the Aviator), they do feel more traditional in terms of the narrative/journey of the protagonist. Or again, maybe it's just my perception of him as the insider.

[@lamentate07]

Lynn Turman He wasn't really breaking the rules. He was just doing what most of those New Hollywood guys were doing at the time: distilling--and occasionally dumbing down--their European influences and applying them in an American setting.

[@chairmanmeow-ij1wd]

Greatest living director. Has been one of the defining creators of the 20/21st centuries.

[@wikmedia15]

Thanks Oral History team great conversation piece. I like your interviewing style dude. I bet you never stuff up your audio ever again after this one.

[@DianeBanks1]

This is great... I hope a lot of people watch both interviews with Thelma Schoonmaker = they are wonderful too!!

[@et2petty]

Great interview, when I can hear it

[@ashdaks]

loved this movie, loved this interview, loved when scorsese gives a pointer to the cameraman hahah....great job guys, really enjoyed it!

[@swifel1k]

Excellent interview as always!

[@Tyler2004durden]

Really great interview. It's frustrating that a master of cinema like Scorsese aren't allowed to make films HIS way, without studio execs getting in the way of the creative process. I hope that Marty keeps finding the energy to make films for many years to come.

[@MoonAtomic7]

Glad you got Scorsese. Even though you get variety from people who work on a film, you deserved this one. Love your interviews, it really is something to hear these people uncut and honest. Thank you for doing this.

[@acepeeter]

Great interview, shame about the sound quality, it's never normally an issue with these things, but yeah I could listen to him talking for much longer, can't wait to see this film too

[@jdlavids]

Great interview sir!

[@TylerANDBABE]

If i ever got the opportunity to work with this man that would absolutely be one of my dreams come true. Genius. Pure genius

[@gardengirl1191]

Thank you for your honesty in story telling Martin and about the movie making industry. Great interview.

[@DelightLovesMovies]

I love Martin Scorsese and his films.

[@teaber]

Was so thrilled yesterday to see this in a sold out theatre. I hope the way people are embracing this movie motivates him to make many more!

[@ogunshineyoureye]

well freaking done DP30! aaaaaaaaaaamazing interview

[@daleanderson1727]

Thank you for sharing.

[@mt3719]

great interview

[@spb7883]

8:52 - 9:17 - what he’s discussing here in a sense is the manner in which the auteur theory decentralized and thus disrupted the canon of the time. But note what he says toward the end of this statement: “That (decentralizing) made us appreciate the others. And over the years we came back to the ones that were supposedly ‘hit’.” In other words, the canon was augmented, not ultimately destroyed. Sadly, that’s no more. Now, a student can take a film class - even a survey class - and never hear about the great masters because of the political agendas that have crept into the humanities. The canon has it seems been permanently “hit”. And we’re supposed to be shocked by the lack of visual literacy and film history knowledge among film students.

[@chrisstone5389]

man he is so knowledgeable not only about films in general but the industry in a whole, I could listen to him for ever talk about movies and the business. WOW.. awesome.. such a cool calm relaxed guy

[@themikepadua]

Your videos are terrific, insightful interviews with some of the most talented filmmakers ever. With that said...it's time to up your game in the audio department, for pete's sake. You're interviewing Martin Scorsese (Martin Scorsese!!!) and I can barely here your questions, which are an important part of the whole equation.

[@Cronos-ms3pw]

Great interviewer. Doing a great job man.

[@epetridis]

Yeah I have to agree. It's so rare but so important that the person doing the interview is as good at their job and has put as much thought into it as the person they are interviewing. VERY rare these days. So much of it is "answer this same question again you've been asked a million times but to my camera and to me." Good questions are very hard to come by being asked. Really nice.

[@rhinolamf4662]

Ya, he is surprisingly humble. Even his films that don't speak to me as much, the attention to detail and clarity of his vision remains undeniable. My favorite thing about Marty is, when he does huge budget films, the money all goes to the marrow. It doesn't go to the pointless frills that many huge studio films indulge in.

[@avlsoc]

Oh Marty, how I love thee! I could listen to you all day.

[@MrVanyaGrozny]

pleaseeee! Make the english subtitles!!!

[@stevesalt2921]

Anyone else annoyed the shot isn't framed properly?

[@fragr33f74]

Bothered me the whole way. Just go to the right God dammit.

[@frankberryfilms]

This is an amazing interview, but a real shame about the sound and the mic peaking...

[@matthewrocca4197]

The time fade when he’s listing the names of filmmakers had me laughing! 🤣 Scorsese is the film encyclopedia and master

[@dilfill]

So great! Love him and his work!

[@Statistic100]

I love the moment where he tells the camera man to stop messing around with the lens. Every other interview you can see others getting a little annoyed with it yet Scorsese just flat out tells him to stop. Good interview.

[@speedy3702]

When was it? I didn't noticed it.

[@turtledoveu]

Pedro Gonçalves 4:36

[@speedy3702]

turtledoveu Thanks!

[@MarkMash17]

so good... love this...

[@redwings90]

Martin talks really fast.

[@timhorton7799]

He's Italian

[@darkwing954]

Happy Birthday, Mr. Scorsese.

[@PeterTeal77]

4:35 camera operator went home and cried that night

[@dp30]

It was his first time shooting for me. Last minute. I flew in to NYC at the last minute and my regular shooters were booked. Nighttime shoot in a hotel room on the upper east side. It gave him a good story for dinner parties.

[@conormclaughlan772]

Such a passionate, uplifiting, motivational and down to earth guy that just happens to be able to make a good fucking film

[@YaYaMediaManic]

I glad that the tone of the film was changed to more of a provocative, I enjoy this high lifestyle. It really worked in the end.

[@blackpirate4407]

Youre a fucking genius martin scorsese

[@jackdolah2031]

BEST CHANNEL EVER ❤️

[@loganstewart1845]

I legitimately started crying when he said that king of comedy was a “flop” like noooooo it’s like ur best bruv

[@ArchieThomas3seesea]

I worked with a chef who said he didn't want to cook at home as it was his work, nor did he care for his own cooking.

[@gencofilmco]

You do some of the best sit-downs but the technical side - the shooting and sound - is too often not on the same level. Odd.

[@dp30]

We are a low budget operation. So when I drop in to NYC, for instance, I am hiring a shooter I probably haven't worked with before. And they are figuring out the sound, since they are usually image-first talent. I would love to have a sound person, 2nd camera, etc. Also, we shoot on location, often on the run. All these are excuses, of course. We do our best. And I would love to upgrade some of it, though when we recently kickstarted, the most common response was that people didn't want us doing anything more elaborate. Go figure. Nothing hurts my soul professionally than, say, mic pops... just not necessary. But I'd rather be doing the wide range of things we do than spend over $10k (or more) on each interview and do 20 a year.

[@gencofilmco]

DP/30 10K? I'll do 'em for 5. ;)

[@phspalace1021]

The best director in film history Martin Scorsese.

[@Tr0nzoid]

Ha, around 4:50 I was just thinking he was looking at the camera critiquing how the interview was being shot and then he mentioned something about it.

[@wahidgamer]

amazing filmmaker i cant wait to watch the wolf of wall street

[@juicyi3ig]

Love this guy.. Genius

[@zachariusd]

This man is such a wonderful guy. Polite, humble, smart.

[@jaystedman4819]

I'm an aspiring filmmaker of 15 years of age and Scorcese talks about how it's different because kids are narratively and visually influenced by the films of today but I disagree, the films that I love, that I've learnt from are films of the last generation, his films, Lumet's and Coppola's and more - Deer Hunter, The Graduate, Alien. So I don't thinks we're products of the problematic story telling of 'modern' movies. I think the ones of us that will succeed are the ones who are now what the master before us have done for us and we're gonna build from that not bam, bam, bam media we get from our phones and tablets.

[@leoquesto9183]

Bravo. Excellent.

[@TheDukeWin]

marty wouldnt be pleased with that camera move at 3:23. great interview though

[@0981462]

Scorsese, Woody, Coppola, Mann, Spielberg, Clint... I could listen them an entire day.

[@natecrean756]

Awesome.

[@CitzenVain714]

OMG I LOVE the idea of Scorsese spending New Year's Eve watching SUNSET BLVD with his friends and daughter lol

[@rhinolamf4662]

It also surprises me that Scorsese still has to struggle for artistic freedom on his films. Do they not want quality pictures that will bring them awards? Do they still not understand that controversial press makes money, or that a quality film may not make as much on opening day, but will continue to make money much longer as it becomes a classic. And we're not even talking about an art film. We're talking about a film starring DiCaprio about a lifestyle many want a taste of.

[@nodseth]

Great interview but damn with the lapel mic.

[@Eliguitar1]

YEAH! that's what i'm talking about.