Triumph Scrambler 400X | First Service | Disappointed | Front Brake Pads Lasted 600Kms | DNA VLOGS

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

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[@BikhariPakistan]

Bhai Agar Kuttea ke tarha chalaya ga 150 pa Joar sa mara ga brake To asa he hoga

[@FabianLouis]

If the brake pad issue is not common with other scrambler owners then its got to be an issue with the master cylinder or caliper.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@FabianLouis found one more bike as of now. And they denied any issue with the calliper or master cylinder. I will keep a very close eye on this.

[@karma6762]

I don't know but I didn't need to change my brake pads till 4000kms all while doing north& east sikkim tour and to and fro to jamshedpur twice a month from kolkata

[@tanmayshirodkar5929]

I also own a Triumph Scram 400X…. My brake pads worn out at around 8000 km and got a sweeking sound from my front rim, so I replaced the brake pads and now it’s working fine…. Just check on any other part which might be damaged causing this issue.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@tanmayshirodkar5929 all checks will be done for sure. I already mentioned in the vlog itself. My question to all users is, did your scrambler have organic brake pads and did they wear off so sooner , under 1000 kms .

[@sidhusidharth8354]

@dipen.nisar.autovlogs Yes, bro, my Scrambler front brake pads also wore out in 900 km, and they asked me to replace the brake pads of the Speed, which cost almost 2200

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Should have asked them to give it under warranty. Always fight back. Don't let them sit on our heads for their fault.

[@fightROSHANfight]

1. That is a bad way to lube the chain. It damages the sprockets and the chain. Definately a bad sign of the service centre not giving a damn. 2. Recently in r/indianbikes there was a similar complaint about organic brakes going bad exactly like in your case.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@fightROSHANfight 1 I agree. 2. People are facing that from day 1, but triumph is still arrogant on it and does not accept the low quality. They charge for replacement.

[@fightROSHANfight]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs I heard a few bad stories about Triumph's service- mostly and consistently from the legendary Keerthi Triumph in Bangalore- enough to the point you'd reckon they actually work hard to screw up your case. But I also heard bad stories about Triumph Tiger service where they haven't cleaned multiple components during service as required, especially after doing trips in places where you'd expect bikes to typically accumulate dust. It's only when she went to a garage where the guy previously worked in multiple service centres knew the problem and got everything cleaned up since the day she collected the bike from Triumph. On top of it, Triumph fucked up the wiring harness of multiple cables. We really need a list of trusted mechanics in each of our cities. Service centres have become sales agents. They're gonna get someone killed because of this nonsense.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

I agree, have heard multiple such stories

[@rajkirangharge983]

Faced similar issue with my scrambler 400x. The fromt brake pads started creating loud noise after just 750 kms . The service centre said they have to replace it and these one will ko longer work. Installed the sintered ones of speed 400 to the front now. Much better braking on the roads and much quicker response for emergency.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@rajkirangharge983 sintered pads eat up the disc. And I hope you did not pay for the new sintered pads, it's Quality issue by triumph and they have done silent recall for few bikes. Read on one of the mumbai groups what app

[@glenhenry9305]

How much it costs bro?

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@glenhenry9305 from Triumph organic cost around 700 and sintered around 2800

[@viperplays4888]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs oh my god.even I faced this, 1500km and brake pads gone! What a terrible make, even some people in my group said its quality issue with some bikes.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@viperplays4888 it's specific bybre organic brake pads that Triumph is using. These have quality issues on all scramblers.

[@pratikkarande3443]

Hello I recently got my scrambler 400x serviced in pune itself and the service advisor told me that my front brake pads are worn out. I have done only 1020 so far on the bike so i felt skeptical about this. When i asked him how the brake pads can be worn out in month they said it happens with organic brake pads specially during monsoon. He suggested me to install the sintered pads from the speed which are around 3k. I havent got the brake pads changed yet since I wasn't sure if they were really worn out so soon. What would you suggest? Should I get the sintered one installed or get the same organic ones again? Because reading all these comments ive realised both of them have a short life.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Ask them to replace the substandard brake pads in warranty. And tell them Triumph has to do it , till the time brake pads quality turns out good. Bybyre brake pads that they use are of sub-standard quality

[@m4n0jp]

Default organic brake pad (front) worn out in 900 km. Then I installed sintered brake pad, it lasted only for 1600 km. What’s going on? Previously I had yamaha FZ 16. I used it for 36000 km and changed brake pads only once.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@m4n0jp are you sure they were sintered ? If yes then it's something with master cylinder

[@joshzz28]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs bang on for the sintered pads, I am at 1669kms on a Speed 400 and the front discs don't have much bite left

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@joshzz28 are you saying the brake pads have worn out ? Let's connect on what's app. DM me on insta - dipen.nisar.autovlogs

[@ajayray9543]

So whats the update now bro ? has Triumph taken measurements to improve the longevity of brake pads ?, i was planning to upgrade from My FZ25 now i am skeptical after going through the entire comment section and your video.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@ajayray9543 no update. They are not accepting it's a quality issue from Bybyre . Still pushing it on customers

[@Abhisheknhes]

I believe the rain has some effect on the brake pads . My brake pad was working fine but after few heavy rain ride it got worn out. I had to change the brake pad after 4700 km of ride.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@Abhisheknhes so are you saying rains have changed all of a sudden this year ? And are you saying we should not ride in rains at all ? Think again buddy, I have already explained , same organic brake pads have lasted over 20000 kms and 5 years in my dominar. Don't ignore such points and listen to service. They are duping us with bad quality stuff which can be life threatening in some cases.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@Abhisheknhes one more thing, why weren't the rear brake pads eaten up in rains ?

[@Abhisheknhes]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs yes rear pad didn’t worn out much. I believe the front pads are of inferior quality.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@Abhisheknhes exactly 😃

[@SameerNangare-b2n]

I recently purchased a Scrambler 400x, and during my first service at 941 km, I was informed that the brake pads were worn out and needed replacement. Despite my concerns about the early wear, the service center attributed it to my riding style. Following their advice, I replaced the brake pads for ₹600 and adjusted my riding habits. However, after only 300 km and 9 days of riding with minimal usage of the front brakes, the brake pads are severely worn out again. This is highly unusual and concerning given the short distance and minimal usage. I'm unsure of the root cause and even if I install sintered brake pads, they may still wear out within 1000-2000 km. Any insights or advice would be greatly appreciated!

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

refer the vlog again, and watch it till the end, I have already explained my concerns, its the same what you have. its the quality of pads, you should not have paid for them and pushed it back. its a shame that triumph is pushing it on riders. a cheap move.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

DM on insta - will add you to a common group. dipen.nisar.autovlogs

[@AniketGharate]

The same thing happened to me. My brake pads were worn out at 800 km and the service centre people said, It was due to your bad riding style or maybe you must have gone off roads. They charged 600 + other charges and still couldn't solve my proper issues. I'm facing an issue with free chain play and (kirr kirr friction) noise coming from it. Does anyone know what the issue is exactly and let me know if anyone facing the same

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@AniketGharate you should have not paid for the brake pads amount. Its their fault for providing low quality brake pads. Still fight back as they will wear off again. Chain issues. May be proper alignment is not done. Get hold of a good mechanic in your area and get it checked. Also these chains get wet and splashes easily as there is no proper cover on them from the tyre side unlike Dominar 400. Chains get filled easily with splash . Dm me on insta if you would like to join our what's app group for discussions. Dipen.nisar.autovlogs

[@hardikkhandelwal7097]

Hi, i bought the same bike. Would you recommend lamination or ppf on it and from where i can get it for cheap in pune

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@hardikkhandelwal7097 dm me on Insta - let me add you to a common group. Dipen.nisar.autovlogs. I personally don't get any of these things done. Very expensive. I would rather repaint or get new parts

[@vitthalshinde6418]

Go to DAD down town near J W. Marriott Pune I have done it .. doing best

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@vitthalshinde6418 how much did it cost you

[@joshzz28]

Thanks for making this video! How is the Castrol Ultimate Oil feeling on your Scrambler?

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Not that great. Using it for warranty purpose. I will soon swap it

[@nidhins6349]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogswhich engine oil brand are you planning to change in future brother

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@nidhins6349 I use Turbo on my other Bikes , but that's post warranty. If Triumph allows , I will switch to turbo in this one too

[@nidhins6349]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs Okay, brother

[@IvanBasumatary]

I had to change my brake pads after 2700 kms just 2 days back. One side was completely worn out 😅

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

they wear off in rains faster than the other stand quality brake pads. its a quality miss by triumph and bybyre - escalate the issue. Do DM me on insta if you would like to join our whats app group - dipen.nisar.autovlogs

[@gsantpal]

I own honda highness and similar issue of wearing out break pads front especially in rainy days happen under 1 k kms. Even after so many complaint from everyone honda does not change their organic break pads to some good material. Most of people owing honda are using ceramic brekpads after market, but those also wearing out fastly in rainy season

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@gsantpal that's sad. Same brake pads from scrambler are on my dominar. It's going good at 20K kms too. So I am assuming material could be the issue.

[@gsantpal]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs yes the organic material in rainy season will not last long. Hope company itself start providing good quality break pads

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

but how do they last in Dominar ? so its not about Organic. its about the specific Material by specific brands

[@gsantpal]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs yes that's correct.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@gsantpal I will watch for 200-250 kms and then swap to the organic from Dominar. Because sintered eat the disc too fast too.

[@JarvisTS-f5x]

Which brake pads did you install after organic one's worn out? I installed sintered ones and paid 2777/- for it in SC.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@JarvisTS-f5x same ones organic, they installed the same ones. And asked to test for 250-300 kms. You could have gone for ktm ones or versah. Much cheaper

[@abinvprince5669]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs will the ktm ones suites on 400x?

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Refer above comment / reply.

[@yousufimran3511]

Hey there ive got sintered brake pads installed 2 weeks back on scrambler 400 and it’s making lot of creaking noise in the front brake , any solution please

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Sintered brake pads do make noise and eat the disc faster too.

[@siddheshdeshmukh1617]

Hey buddy, got my scrambler last week and it's a pain by seeing the mudsplashes and dirt, especially with pillon and shock absorbers it's very bad... does the mud splash protection kit will make any difference? If not Any 3rd party solution available...and are u planning on installing a backrest? I spoke with triumph guys and they told they're working on official backrest...till then zana or MT backrest could do the job...

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Mud Splash protection is useless. Nothing concrete available as of now. I am still looking for a good match and protector. I might not install back rest, I have installed the top box and it takes up lot of space. seats are shorter

[@ameyalokapur]

@@siddheshdeshmukh1617 get a tyre hugger from a third source. Works well

[@siddheshdeshmukh1617]

@@ameyalokapur have got in contact with many shops none available for scrambler...

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Refer my vlog on tyre hugger.

[@pinkesh2703]

My 400X's both front n rear break pads r gone in 5k kms. Bike is amazing but I guess we need better quality 3rd party parts.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

we need to fight back and escalate for low quality parts. dont give up. dm me on Insta if you would like to join my whats app group

[@shanylkhan1557]

hey, I also have a 400x and i believe i have the same problem, at 550 KMs breaks started to make noise, initially i thought it was some water that may have entered the callipers, but now its seems pads may might be worn out. im too surprised at this getting worn out so early. i previously owned a 310 GS(no Pads replacement in 5K kms of ownership) and Honda RS350 (front pads changed after 6K Kms) and pads lasted a considerable amount of time, man even my Access 125 fronts pads lasted approx 25K Kms. In your bill i didn’t see the charges for the replacement did they waive of the charges ? im visiting the workshop tomorrow to get the service and this issue addressed.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

I fought and got the amount removed. thats what pissed me off, I had to fight for it. they were trying to push it on me initially that I must have pressed the front brake while riding, later they pushed on to the pads that organic pads wear off in rains. Frankly totally crap answers and am sure they are aware about the issue and have pushed it on more customers silently as wear n tear.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Just a note, noise from brake pads is common in rains, so yours could just be because of mud stuck in them or brake pads dust. but keep a close eye on them.

[@shanylkhan1557]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs thanks for the update, im going to sc tomorrow will get clarity on whats up with my breaks.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

sure. do let me know

[@shanylkhan1557]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs hey, had the same issue pads were completely gone, initially they were putting it on me by saying it's wear and tear, but after some push back got it covered as a defect.

[@hillkingrider]

Bro how much is the price of break pad?

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@hillkingrider I have already explained in the vlog I think. 700 organic. 2800 sintered.

[@skautocare]

Pads wornout at 600 kms is impossible There is some issue with calliper or master cylinder😊

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@skautocare we will soon dig at SK 😊🤫💪🏻

[@yudhishcondoor571]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs Did you get know what the issue is ? If yes please let me know, bcz I'm faving the same issue and I found front brake pad lost some bite at 1000kms and at 1200kms its completely unusable, so I replaced. But, now again at 2300kms, front brake pad are barely usable.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

Have already explained in this video itself. It's the pads quality. You can check another video where I install the 15T sprocket and dominar brake pads feedback .

[@SamSql]

Hi Bro, there is no tyre hugger that fits well with Scrambler, even if customised a tyre hugger, i doubt it stays when bike is ridden at 100+…..requesting you to come up with a tyre hugger option, may be KTM tyre hugger and customise to Scrambler….

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

I have already purchased one Hugger, belongs to a good OEM vehicle brand. but I need to make mods to it, as most other bikes have 17 inch wheels with tyres /40 thru /60 in height. Ours is /80 in height. i.e. Tyre Side wall Height. I need to make adjustments for it and then test it for a few days. if that works out, I will share a detailed vlog in 2-3 weeks from now.

[@mayureshkhandekar6808]

I have also bought scram 400 mine break pad burn out with in 700km and the total bike I have ridden is around 3700km and within 3700km I have change my break pad 2 times such bad experience with triumph

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

its the low quality from Bybyre - dm me on insta to get added to our group - dipen.nisar.autovlogs

[@viperplays4888]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs Can u pls add me as well.

[@arcaneglimmer]

And I thought I had it bad with the Speed's front pad lasting 3.8k km

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@arcaneglimmer sintered ones ? Then it's something with the brake callipers

[@arcaneglimmer]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs might be but I think the SC head may have shown me someone else brake pads at that time because the scond set has hit 3.5k now and still seems to have loads of life. My organic pads on the rear lasted 5.5k first set, the second set I put the pulsar 200ns pads cuz I had a long ride to do and I couldnt go the SC at the time. That barely lasted 2km, ended up impacting my rotor slightly cuz it was down to the backing plate (my carelessness but wasn't expecting the life to drop this much, so wasn't checking often enough). I took the bike to a third party garage and they said the rotor damage from backing plate contact is causing wear unevenly on ths pads on one side (rear). The scratches to the rotor were minor and the first set I changed with material left, so no idea what to check now and they said both front and rear calipers look fine.But something seems off my Apache 160's front pads used to last a year and a mileage of about 10k atleast. Im now trying Vesrah ceramic pads on the rear, let's see how that goes.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

then its the ByByre brake pads quality issue. they make for bajaj all bikes.

[@arcaneglimmer]

​​@@dipen.nisar.autovlogscould be but some owners have had their pads last 10k km and more. So, hard to say. Also, are you from Kolkata?

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@arcaneglimmer none of the scrambler 400x with organic pads have lasted long.

[@sagarshinde6795]

Same issue with me in 1500 twice the break pad is worn out now they are inspecting on it worst quality break pads i think

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@sagarshinde6795 I have the same doubt. It's the brake pads quality. Because otherwise vehicle would be riding with a jammed front wheel if calliper or abs or master cylinder had any issue. Please do share this video in triumph group if you are part of and let's collect more info on any other member facing this issue. Let's all comment on this video.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

by the way, DM me on insta, will add you to a common group, its small as of now, less members.

[@viperplays4888]

@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs Agreed

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@viperplays4888 🙏🏻

[@craigrogers9799]

Probably from hard braking with dirty discs and pads. You had all sorts of scars from grit on them.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

If you missed the part where I explained - this isn't my first bike, my dominar has similar brake pads, organic and they have lasted 5 years and 20000 kms . Also probably you are not aware, all discs n pads get this dirty in rains then why didn't the rear wear off . There are organics at the rear too. But they are almost unused. Scars are common brake pads but that does not give them a reason to wear off under 600 kms atleast for my kind of riding. I am not looking at why this happened with my bike, am sure there is some fault with the pads or the calliper or the mast cylinder or the abs motor. Am looking at if you have faced similar issue. Need more data on that.

[@craigrogers9799]

​@@dipen.nisar.autovlogs No worries pal. We all think we are experts when someone else is having a problem. I am probably just hoping it's rider error because I am hoping to get one soon. And yes! I did miss the part about organic pads because there was a lot of background noise at my end when I was watching your video.

[@craigrogers9799]

Also, front pads should go quicker because they are used more and have more piston pressure.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@craigrogers9799 the rear pads wear off much faster than front, they are most of the time smaller than the front .

[@murtazanaeem3661]

Front brake pads completely worn out after 2000kms.

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@murtazanaeem3661 you must have ridden less in rains, else they would have gone earlier. Hope you did not pay for them. It's a quality issue.

[@murtazanaeem3661]

Paid 602

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@murtazanaeem3661 :(

[@glenhenry9305]

I got the same issue. Mine got fckd with 2k kms. And disk also gone. 🥲

[@dipen.nisar.autovlogs]

@@glenhenry9305 oh God. Escalate to triumph officials, don't give up. Make sure you don't pay

[@adarshs4553]

​@@glenhenry9305 same bro...but mine screwed up the disc in 6k km and when I replaced the breakpads and the disc, the new breakpads wear out with 2k km

[@arcaneglimmer]

@@adarshs4553 how much did the disc cost?

[@mayureshkhandekar6808]

Mine dis plate also gone with 3700km

[@arcaneglimmer]

@@mayureshkhandekar6808 man that sucks. How expensive was the new disc?