Nice video bro. Glad you’re going to do another taking into consideration the reload time. Like others said if you can’t one-shot your enemy you’re usually toast when the mag is empty 😊
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly! My Juggernaut video should be very useful since I'll take into consider reload speed if the weapon isn't able to one-shot the Juggernaut. And Juggernaut has the highest hp in the game, so it should be realistic!
@themythmaker12482 жыл бұрын
DPS isn't really useful unless it also includes reload time.
@nullagravitas86692 жыл бұрын
Only if a full mag can’t kill your enemy. And if not, you’re already screwed.
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're right, I probably should've calculated the cycle DPS which factors in reload speed. But I'm gonna upload a video soon where I calculate how long it'll take for each weapon to kill a Juggernaut. That factors in reload speed as well as how fast the weapon can deal damage. It think it'll be a very useful video
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Hey Zero! Yeah exactly, my data was accurate for weapons like EMs that one-shot everything. But my data wasn't realistic for weapons like javelins that need several mags to kill most things
@phantombuilder15902 жыл бұрын
@@GangsterJabs wellllll my javs can 1 tap a lot of things
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
@@phantombuilder1590 That's nice. But that'll change once you start facing maxed high hp mechs like Aegis, Orion, Stalker, Guardian and Tengu. You won't be one-shotting them, even with the bad damage
@KajowyOwca2 жыл бұрын
As most of the comments suggest - add reload time! Also addition of pilots and implants matter, as there are (or are missing) some specific implants not available for other weapons that could influence the final outcome - like mortars not having the reload implant. Did you overwrite the Scape's database file with your spreadsheet?
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I'll add reload speed next time. Adding pilots and implants makes it confusing since which implants do I use for my data? A max legendary damage implant? Not everyone has that implant. I feel like that makes everything complicated, so I let the viewer calculate that on their own if they want. Just multiply all my data by 2 if it's a maxed legendary pilot with a maxed legendary damage implant. And yeah I mistakenly overwrited Scape's database. You know how to fix that lol?
@jeronghappysamurai Жыл бұрын
The research data is still very useful! Thank you for your contribution.
@GangsterJabs Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I plan on making an updated version of this video as well!
@jeronghappysamurai Жыл бұрын
@@GangsterJabs oh that would be super nice!
@franciscohestnes2 жыл бұрын
Great video once again! Maybe you could factor in how long it takes to reload for each weapon. That has a big impact in battle. But if you’re already testing everything on a jugg then maybe there’s no need. The time it takes to bring him down might be a better indicator.
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, it's important to factor in bkth burst DPS (which I calculated in this video) and cycle DPS (which factors in reload speed into your data. I think calculating how long each weapon will take to kill Juggernaut will be a super useful video since it factors in both of them. If the weapon one-shots the Juggernaut, it doesn't factor in reload speed. But if the weapon doesn't, like most weapons do, it will factor in reload speed
@franciscohestnes2 жыл бұрын
@@GangsterJabs you’re awesome! I’m a nerd myself (sport/exercise science) but finding nerdy people is always cool! Plarium should be paying you for getting me excited about playing!
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
@@franciscohestnes You're a nerd as well? That's awesome! I just love working with data and using that to find crazy results! I got you excited about Mech Arena? That means I've succeeded in my goal! I love this game so much and want it to become more popular and grow. And if the game grows, then naturally my subscribers, views and likes grow as well. Plarium is actually going to pay me once I hit 1k subscribers. If I hit 1k subs and become an official content creator, Plarium gives me a bunch of in-game currency like a-coins every few weeks. I'm hoping I can reach that!
@taqiyretiwalla14002 жыл бұрын
@@GangsterJabs I'll become an Official Content Creator of Mech Arena next year as I will turn 18 next year That's why I'm making my hangar strong from now
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
@@taqiyretiwalla1400 Ooh awesome! Congrats!
@PAIN_31002 жыл бұрын
Really appreciating yours in-depth videos but don't you think the formula for finding true average dps is Damage ÷ (unload time + reload time)? Cause just Damage ÷ Unload Time will be Burst dps 😅
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I realized that I messed up after I was finished with my video😂. Yes, burst DPS is useful since it shows you which weapons deal the most amount of damage the quickest. But some weapons like the rocket mortars have incredibly long reload speeds that were never factored in. I'm uploading a video where I calculate how long it'll take for each weapon to kill a Juggernaut. This video will be super useful since it factors in both burst and cycle DPS. If the weapon doesn't one-shot the Juggernaut, reload speed gets factored in
@geddycostello84392 жыл бұрын
Hi Jabs. Excellent video and thanks for taking the time upload these great videos. 👍👍
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Geddy!
@geddycostello84392 жыл бұрын
@@GangsterJabs You deserve it Jabs. Would love to see you answer some Q&A questions on a future live stream.
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Ohh that's a good idea! I can go over subscriber's hangars and give hangar advice. And while I do that, I can answer whatever questions the viewers have. That's a good 500 subscribers special!
@geddycostello84392 жыл бұрын
@@GangsterJabs If you do that I'll almost guarantee you will get more subscribers. I always liked watching Scape211 Q&A livesteams.
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
@@geddycostello8439 Ohh nice!
@Elkesar12 жыл бұрын
You are true mech arena scientist! Thx
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Mech Arena scientist? That sounds epic! I love it!
@taqiyretiwalla14002 жыл бұрын
I got EM 12 in 1st attempt so I'll try to get it's dual copy ASAP and will pair it with Panther either with maxed Maverick or Archangel
@nullagravitas86692 жыл бұрын
Try killshot, it’s my favorite build right now
@taqiyretiwalla14002 жыл бұрын
@@nullagravitas8669 Killshot is under development for being maxed out
@supersizer2.0622 жыл бұрын
Nice, I think Em12 might be useful only on maxed orion once everything you have is maxed. But it'll do awesome with a 24en panther or even paragon.
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Nice Taqiy! If I were you, I'd use those acoins instead to max out your Panther instead. A maxed Panther even with a weak weapon will always be stronger than a non-maxed Panther with a strong weapon. It takes around 13k a-coins to get the second copy of the EM 12. If you use those a-coins on Panther, you'll be around half way to getting your Panther maxed!
@taqiyretiwalla14002 жыл бұрын
@@GangsterJabs Thanks Jabir for giving an advice
@nullagravitas86692 жыл бұрын
Great video man. The graph of RM12 looks like someone giving the middle finger, which is correct.
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Haha, since you talked about the middle finger in your comment, your comment was held for review😂
@StarTrekforever36982 жыл бұрын
Wow bro awesome information!
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@soubhagya43942 жыл бұрын
Bro ur content s are amazing and extraordinary
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Your words encourage me to make more good videos!
@Rudraksh.Pratap Жыл бұрын
0:57 That was funny 🤣
@GangsterJabs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is pretty funny how bad the stasis beam's damage is😂
@casper51812 жыл бұрын
Hello Jab do you recommend Carbine 10 for mid-late game or invest on other like arc 10
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Hey Casper! No, I don't recommend you to invest in any of the carbine weapons. Although they have a pretty decent DPS on enemies that are standing still, their DPS is horrible if the enemy is moving, especially if you're far away from them. This is because the accuracy is horrible. So I'd recommend investing in the arc torrent 12 if you can get it, or the arc torrent 10 if you can't. The graviton beam 12 is also pretty strong if you can get it. These are all really strong weapons on Surge!
@casper51812 жыл бұрын
@@GangsterJabs thank you so much. I think they look pretty cool but i gotta use my acoins on arc 10 then. Thanks JABS .
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@franilovic4139 Жыл бұрын
You know something is wrong when a sniper weapon has more dps than continous/sustained fire weapons. EM rifles shouldnt do double damage, and should have 8 seconds reload time in my opinion. And disc launcher should deal a bit less damage. And although it doesnt affect dps, the disc radius implants should be nerfed. They increase your average dps in matches because you literally cant miss.
@GangsterJabs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think the most broken part about the EM rifle is the autoaim. The railgun and the longarms also deal a ton of damage, but the shots are very difficult to hit. But the EM rifles are extremely easy to hit. Even my 6 year old cousin can easily kill people with them. This combined with their crazy fast reload speed, their high double damage chance, and high damage per shot makes them completely broken
@nathanbryers Жыл бұрын
The dps should include load time!
@GangsterJabs Жыл бұрын
You mean reload? Yeah, I should do this video again but just do it while including reload as well
@casper51812 жыл бұрын
I'm a little late. This is going to be great info again.
@GangsterJabs2 жыл бұрын
My videos are only for your entertainment and for your use. You can watch it whenever you want. You don't need to worry about being late to watch it lol
@kevinmaddalena39119 ай бұрын
Watching it late (especially if you're mega late like myself) is helpful but won't be 100% accurate as it doesn't take into account new weapons that have been released since the release of the video and some of the weapons get their stats needed from time to time. This is no fault of the video creator, just something to remember and take into account when setting up your hanger now in this day of age