DPS SHOWDOWN! Itto vs Xiao vs Noelle! CRAZY UNEXPECTED results! Genshin Impact

[@IWinToLose]

Support me be SMASHING THIS LINK to check out today's sponsor, Another Eden! ggcont.me/3srehdQ Let me know who you'd like to see in the next DPS Showdown with C6 Itto vs 2 others! Also, I used the wrong clip for Noelle vs Regisvine. Her N4 combo saved me 0.43 seconds. Not a big deal in the big picture, but that's why I was saying N4 instead of N3. Here's the correct clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3uQg6mPirGBf5Y

[@jerryberryho2482]

Xiao is a good comparison since his is raw damage anemo. But I'd like to compare him w the strongest like ganyu, hu tao and raiden

[@blackfoxgames4431]

Notice me senpai

[@xmindbreak]

gaming

[@logicmaster756]

By crazy u mean noell is geo archon

[@imibrahim1521]

I have homa and harp should I go for xiao or ganyu plz tell I need another dps

[@blippy117]

i dont think i can get enough of ushi's little dance

[@ultrawhale1712]

It's even better when you consider that ushi is literally translated to "cow"(or ox but cow is funnier )

[@SleepingLittleHedgehog]

@@ultrawhale1712 well akaushi bull literally a wagyu breed xd

[@fulloflovelust9477]

Lol i accidentally got itto while trying to get xiangling but im saving for Ayaka. Seeing Ushi dance really make up for it

[@khanhtham1812]

@@fulloflovelust9477 me too, I got a c8 Gorou but only 2 xiangling with 25k primo...

[@ste3lsh0t97]

@@fulloflovelust9477 same i got itto at 30 pity was saving for ganyu but itto is pretty fun not sad that i got him

[@gane_3519]

In short, if you are still unsure about which characters to pull for, always consider the weapons, supports, artifacts and resources that you currently have

[@thisperson8315]

Yeah people always miss on that , like having mona makes getting ganyu a good option and having zhongli makes getting hu tao a good option too And having eula makes baal a must have

[@Dead_Shoulders]

Yeah and how you can always get them after you pull too 🤷

[@rumefreya]

@@thisperson8315 what about having childe albedo kazuha or venti? who should you get?

[@cgg9207]

@@rumefreya Xiangling C4

[@king_alloy]

@@thisperson8315 I disagree with the Eula and Baal thing. Eula does perfectly well with just Fischl and a cryo battery. Yes Raiden is Eula's best partner, but it's less of a big deal than the others you compared. And it isn't vice-versa either because Raiden is already an amazing support for all those energy hungry characters which almost are all good, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Sucrose, Beidou, all already heavily appreciate Raiden.

[@cybercery5271]

I keep hoping that xiao gets a dedicated artifact set and an anemo gorou, that would be so good for xiao havers(even though I don't have xiao or plan to use him) I GET IT OKAY I FOLLOW THE GAME TOO STOP REPLYING TO ME

[@rocketeer101]

That may be far in the future. If leaks are right, the stars of the succeeding patches would be Shenhe, then Yae, then Ayato. Beyond that would most likely be the Dendro arc. Most likely, new toys, if there would be, would center those. So it'll be cryo centric, electro centric, hydro centric and a flood of dendro related things when dendro start rolling.

[@abhishekbhattacharyya2950]

I don't even think mihoyo cares. They care only profit so they made this specific buff for other characters to boost there sale. Well xiao has a very good sale considering his banner was for only 2weeks. May be in third rerun mihoyo might change plans but next patch I don't see any buffs to him which is really sad. Not giving a dps his own set is the worst.

[@dank_brudda7933]

@@abhishekbhattacharyya2950 well many character's don't have a particular artifacts set's but still if they ever added another anemo dps we will for sure see a viable xiao set.

[@abhishekbhattacharyya2950]

@@dank_brudda7933 all new 5* dps characters ( I mean all) have their own set (even some have 2sets). Even new supports have their valuable set (may not be own but helps them a lot). Also I dont know why should we wait for another anemo dps. Albedo's sword can be used on him only. There is c6 kazuha who could use anemo dps set. A character will not get his set because there is no other characters like his kit is a stupid idea. But then again we it depends on mihoyo so yeah my arguments are meaningless until they want it we will not get it.

[@Akechifan]

They'll probably add a set for him like they did for noelle/itto. I like how characters get better gear when they are rerun like Childe with his bow. I doubt they'll rework or change his kit cause for some reason they never do that. An anemo Gorou style character could be added in the future but its unlikely

[@captainjacksparrow7441]

As a Xiao user, I was always aware of his weakness and people considering to pull for him need to be aware of this too. Consider this is a fair warning. (btw liking and having fun with a character is subjective so I won't go on to this topic) As people may have started to notice, he only has a signature weapon and no dedicated artifact set & support. Some teams work for him but their buffs only last half of Xiao's burst uptime at most. To sum it up, he is situational. - Damage falls off at single target scenarios - Struggles to damage all mobs that get staggered in all directions so a crowd controller is recommended - Needs battery, healing & shielding (some dps can let go of 1) - He is expensive for whales too, either go C0, C1, or go C6 to make your cons whaling justified. - Reliant on Zhongli. Yes you can play him without Zhongli, but less comfortable to play because he is the definition of... - a glass canon (he doesn't gain interruption resistance from activating burst) Before anyone in the comments goes to "whats important is you pull for characters you love" or something, I'll just say that those who are dead set on getting him will wish for him nonetheless. This is for those who are still unsure. This game may be casual but resource management especially primogems is a good skill to have.

[@sk8tergal995]

wow thanks for this very insightful!!

[@Adam4232]

@Kael I would say yes as long as you have good artifacts to give him. Right now most people run him with a 2 piece Viridescent and a 2 piece Gladiator/Shimenawa.

[@soreal156]

i get it ,thanks

[@Dr-rf3zk]

I couldn't decide to pull for ganyu or xiao. this made it clear for me Tysm

[@xiao482]

Thanks for this insight. I was looking for a proper insight for ages without anyone slandering Xiao and just ruining the passion Xiao wanters have for him. I'm planning to pull for him for the next update so I'll bear this in mind.

[@Juanni]

I’m just so happy that Noelle is able to keep up with these 5 star characters, I triple crowned her several months ago so seeing her getting some attention means so much to me

[@prsuave420]

As a fellow noelle main I agree. She has been a highly underrated unit for far too long. Secret 5 star. The trade off is she does a little less damage for some utility

[@PhShadow]

Hehe, Triple Crown Noelle is The way to Go xD main Character since I Got her in the beginers banner and I finally have her c6 ❤️

[@snowtiger9942]

I'm not a noelle main but I do respect noelle mains

[@raidenshotgun8566]

Noelle mains till the end ....lets go

[@applel2.043]

I respect main noelle main whole heartedly. Except for the one who say itto trash .

[@mgsnlucas2618]

i was just looking for this vid on ur page cuz I remembered you talking about a dps showdown with itto, I couldn't find it, but then I got a notification...PERFECT TIMING

[@vanshdeep6845]

ASKING RANDOM PEOPLE "ARE YOU SINGLE?" IN GENSHIN IMPACT kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnPEpKSQhaiFh9U

[@andre-xn8lb]

@@vanshdeep6845 NO ONE CARES

[@pizzaapplepie1338]

@@vanshdeep6845 i dont see why thats a question

[@thehunt895]

@@vanshdeep6845 WHO cares

[@skyK7711]

I love how hes talking so calmly while everything in the screen is going chaotic

[@prudenciomangaoangiii403]

@@chadintraining308 not surprised for a genshin dmg showcase

[@Cloudo4]

Its not done at the same time so expecting him to not talk like that would be strange. Thats how such videos should be.

[@prudenciomangaoangiii403]

@@Cloudo4 evryone knows this tho its not as clear if its live

[@vanshdeep6845]

ASKING RANDOM PEOPLE "ARE YOU SINGLE?" IN GENSHIN IMPACT kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnPEpKSQhaiFh9U

[@freedelahoya2171]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@simulation1158]

You should do a DPS or support showdown between the Traveler variants.

[@daneespenocilla]

Interestingly, Traveler is one of Xiao's F2P supports Anemo for C6 Anemo shred & batttery (Can hold and proc Freedom Sworn passive too) Geo for Zhongli tandem, Geo resonance & crit rate buff Electro for Xiao battery

[@capperbuns]

Anyone knows which variant would do the most dmg. Geo traveler so i think it's kinda useless to do a showcase to a result everyone knows

[@CumEater]

@@capperbuns hbh I’m

[@vinceallermo9634]

Its dendro traveller

[@SingingGinge]

Seriously, major props to Noelle !! One of the first characters I ever built up and still love to use her to this day! Was awesome seeing her do massive damage in this showcase

[@rjacks3284]

pretty much if you have high con noelle itto will only be a marginal upgrade in certain situations. noelle performed very similarly to itto in the abyss and even the triple magu kenki run where there was the biggest difference he said he could have done better. but the thing is yun jin the normal attack buffer isnt even out yet. so surly things may get even better for noelle

[@roennyh1362]

@@rjacks3284 I don’t know if it was mentioned in the video, but Itto on Floor 12 against the Genki’s had abyss buff of 30% Charge attack damage, while Noelle didn’t have a buff for her auto attacks. Without, the time difference would have been a lot closer, so Noelle really doesn’t fall behind Itto much at all.

[@rjacks3284]

@@roennyh1362 facts

[@GoldenFlash0]

@@roennyh1362 well if you compare c6 Noelle vs c0 Itto then yes. Itto could still get much stronger through constellations, but those are overkill if you ask me

[@Deme_Diora666]

@@GoldenFlash0 itto I think c2 or c3 removes his energy problem completely so I pulled that far but itto c6 is so cool but it’s really unnecessary lmao.

[@neil5694]

further proof that Xiao needs his own dedicated set/support

[@NeoSlyde]

And weapon

[@frostykey4591]

My chance to get double 5 stars in 10 pull is higher than Mihoyo care with xiao perform lol

[@roderickshawn8160]

@@NeoSlyde he already got one lol, the primordial jade winged spear isn't

[@orchidow5637]

@@roderickshawn8160 technically but he does need a set since technically his best set is glad and 2 anemo piece

[@hutao5958]

@@roderickshawn8160 powercrept by homa, blackcliff polearm r5 comes close, also a pain to activate

[@MAt-gt6rl]

I knew Itto would win, but this video makes me respect Xiao even more. No dedicated buffer, no dedicated artifact set, with a crappy 4 star weapon, and he still gives a tough fight to others. Also all this when the current abyss heavily favors the other two

[@fakeeminem1390]

I think the three of them are not buffed

[@AndyStarzs1]

@@fakeeminem1390 but Itto and Noelle both have dedicated artifact sets. Now imagine if Xiao had his own dedicated artifact sets.

[@gabrielpacknesslotz5192]

The only thing where xiao is in a disadvantage its the artifact set. The 3 of them are buffed by zhongli, the 3 of them are using 4 star weapons (and actually that weapon of xiao its the better f2p option)... and floor 12 of the abyss doesnt have geo buff, thats on floor 11

[@Thornfrey]

@@AndyStarzs1 Noelle didnt use whiteblind stacks in half of the video and husk is not great for her too... its tricky to maintain stacks.

[@fakeeminem1390]

@@AndyStarzs1 he seed in the start that his itto artifacts are bad so he used 20 crit rate food and for Xiao he used 2 of the anemo pieces and 2 18% pieces he’s build right with r5 4 star weapon like the others

[@Juice-chan]

The fact that Noelle can keep up so well with 5* is amazing. Like you said she was for a 4* always sleeper OP and the right artifacts, weapons and support dug up her true potential. This can very well also happen to Xiao and I hope this happens with 2.4 during his rerun. In the last month I got multiple upgrades on Noelle. C6, Husk of Opulent Dreams, Gorou C6 and R5 Redhorn Stonethresher. I used to do 12 - 18k damage. Now Noelle does 3X to 5X more damage no cap. This is the single biggest boost in terms of power I have seen on my account only 2nd behind my Raiden Shogun.

[@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh]

Play since February still c1 Noelle

[@Juice-chan]

@@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh Did you try to get her? I play since the Kazuha release and got my last 3 cons with the Albedo banner.

[@latsuby]

I mean she's c6 obv she would keep up with them

[@Juice-chan]

@@latsuby did you not read? If IWTL did that same test against Xiao before 2.3 Noelle could not have beaten him at all. She needed that optimal gear and she got a good support for her.

[@kaga.mine.]

r5 redhorn? dedication

[@edrusmohd8413]

I love how Noelle being Noelle after her finishing all of her chores.

[@SwrvShiesty]

I feel like the best chance of Xiao getting a dedicated artifact set is if another plunge spam dps gets added later in the game

[@shirubureka8467]

Apparently not lol

[@miraqen7801]

Faruzan can shred anemo resistance. It will skyrocket his damage output by a ton

[@diegograjeda7611]

Although I don't have him, Itto is by far one of the coolest 5 stars in the game, and his personality is portrayed in his abilities.

[@virus2339]

As much as I love Xiao, he's really at a lot of disadvantages, Mihoyo really needs to give him justice. Geo resonance is superior compared to Anemo resonance, and Xiao still doesn't have his own artifacts set.

[@googlrscholar]

the fact that he is in the top dps before and can still keep up now even with those disadvantages made me respect him more. hope mhy release a 4pc tailored for him as with all the other 5star dps but this might be copium lol

[@rikked391]

i still hate that they removed his plunge dash cancel

[@edenmauricio8477]

The geo resonance is the strongest and the anemo resonance is the weakest probably

[@emeralddragon596]

@@edenmauricio8477 hydro resonance wants a word with you lol

[@AbyssContent]

@@emeralddragon596 lmao, the whole resonance was made for babruh and kokopium

[@Blueberry-wn5fc]

I got up this morning to pull for Itto, got Diluc instead. I need y'all to pray for me to get him in my next 20 pulls. Happy holidays!

[@songsayswhat]

Good luck! I was already 78 in when I pulled and was super lucky. Hoping some of mine slips off to you!

[@BenjieTS]

Same I got Diluc, but 20+ wish later gog Itto.

[@ocaayee]

Gl getting itto sir, also diluc is pretty cool

[@atriyakoller136]

Praying for you, sending you my Itto luck since he's my first early 5 star and a won 50/50 (got him 50 pulls after Albedo and wasn't expecting to win the 50/50 since the only one I've won in my gaming time was Kazuha...until yesterday)

[@Shurayukikun]

I hope you got Itto as Christmas Present!

[@chez4639]

It’s good to see Xiao still being completely viable without a 4 pc set and dedicated support. My c0 Xiao can already dish out 45k plunges solo. I’m sure he will once again be a top tier dps when mhy gives him his long due set and support :)

[@dead_locked]

You mean If mhy gives him his set and support?

[@mamufixie]

Sorry xiao feels old already.. ill be waiting for new anemo dps in the future

[@TheReaIestOne]

Xiao wins this if you ask me. 🤣

[@chez4639]

@@dead_locked Nah he able to solo plunge 45k with my 2 pc 2 pc set XD

[@Akechifan]

With his own gear and a support dedicated to him he will have damage like hu tao tbh

[@saaaaaaaaalt838]

I've said before but I think Noelle is the best choice Mihoyo could have picked to be the first non standard 4 start you get. She's completely self sustaining with shielding, healing, and damage so you don't need to use resources on supports. Not only that, but she's your first into to non atk scaling characters and is also still relatively competitive end game as a dps. She's just a little selfish and not too powerful till C6.

[@zeromailss]

agreed, if only fav claymore was free just like fav bow, it suit her so well on non geo team and as support or main when the battery isn't good enough or just comfy run where DPS don't matter much As much as I love her I have a hard time using her when I was new to the game cuz I don't understand the mechanic and optimization yet, getting her burst take forever and without cons she does feels rather weak

[@Juice-chan]

Noelle is a character that is meant to be invested from day 1 and build alongside your account. It takes time but getting her C6 is the easiest out of all 4 stars and most who are longer in the game probably even have her C6 already. She is the best all-rounder in the game. So I see why Mihoyo designed her in a way that her full damage potential comes only later into fruition when you have raised your account properly. But for everybody who sticks with her the reward is huge. Achieving 5 Star levels of DPS of nothing short but amazing.

[@Juice-chan]

@@zeromailss Before I got her C6 her damage was around 10k - 16k. That is usuable. And that was my power for most of the game. I used a Ningguang with favonius codex to power her. It is not enough to 9* Abyss 12 but it is quite good. Sadly the favonius Claymore is pretty bad on her even though it looks really good. The Whiteblind or Serpent Spine are much better. Now she does 3 to 4 times more damage with C6, Husk of Oppulent dreams and the Redhorn Stonethresher + Gorou and can easily 36* abyss

[@maras00jr49]

@@Juice-chan Getting her to C6 isn't easiest out all 4 stars. It all depends on which banner you wish, my Noelle is at C0 while my Barbara is at C6 because I wished on banners with Barbara on it and haven't on banners with Noelle.

[@dariusgarcia2204]

@@maras00jr49 lmao my friends hate noelle but i main her so this was also the case for me Managed to c6 her tho but took almost 1 year while others had her at c27+ Since june/july last year i managed to 9 star all floors, her as main dps/zhongli/albedo and ayaka(now gorou) in a team

[@NickEnlowe]

I was cheering for Noelle the whole time and was not disappointed.

[@theanglerfish]

me too she deserve all the trust on Teyvat

[@danielvinceneo3556]

This guy sacrifice his Holiday plans to make a video for us just like how Xiao sacrifice his health for damage

[@emotionalavocado2336]

He probably made the video in advance and uploaded it today lol

[@putent9623]

@@emotionalavocado2336 exactly what I was thinking. When he announced dps show downs it doesn't take him this long to do them.

[@GuranPurin]

He literally said he's been recording the video for 4 days

[@justsomeguywithlasereyes9920]

God I hope not.

[@h0ly981]

As a Xiao user, I’d love a quality of live change where Xiao’s plunges also create a small vacuum (like Kazuha) hence removing the annoying stagger and makes his AOE burst much much better

[@Chrolllo.]

I don't think that would be a quality-of-life change, that would be a straight-up buff. It would change some of his mechanics, and i dont think that will ever happen lol

[@youdontneedtoknow7548]

@@Chrolllo. Yeah these xiao fan girls are hoping for far to much if ya ask me.

[@lili-mj5ib]

Let see if mihoyo give xiao more love in the future :v

[@reineslee736]

@@youdontneedtoknow7548 they just want to keep Xiao relevant cuz these are the same people who trashed ayaka despite being unreleased and ayaka is crushing Xiao so hard now KEK.

[@noveliayuki]

@@lili-mj5ib i dont think so. They just keep releasing new characters and forget about the "old" ones

[@med_qb]

I love both Itto and Noelle and I have been trying to get Noelle's constellations since the beggining but can only get her c2. Hopefully I can get Itto and maybe c6 Noelle one day. They're both very precious characters to me.

[@jordanacevedo6106]

It’s amazing that xiao still keeps up without any dedicated artifact sets or supports that buff him like crazy. Goes to show how strong of a character he is.

[@googlrscholar]

@@mightyslugger2441 really tho?

[@scharf1112]

Not really, Bennett is here always for him

[@Hmm-kj3fj]

@@googlrscholar very much so

[@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh]

@@mightyslugger2441 xiao is strong he simply doesn't get any help from mihoyo

[@babi2452]

@@scharf1112 Bennett is there for everyone, doesn't help xiao

[@wayforglory945]

Xiao problems aren't only artifacts sets and supports. His problem are that: -he loses hp for no reason, -he flinches/pushes away enemies too far when he plunges, -if the enemy can move around or dash (like the wolves) xiao loses too much time chasing them down, -he can't gain energy from his E during his Q (hence he requires a battery unless you have a high ER and can't use them mid Q to reposition), -his c1 only works at the beginning of a fight (it doesn't even charge back after his Q duration) -he doesn't snapshot the buffs for his Q (so if they end mid Q, he loses all buffs) With all these reruns its getting more and more likely to have your main dps as C1, if we count for longevity, Xiao doesn't have that either (his other Cons are absurdly bad and C6 is literally useless against bosses or single target's, that and the E spam auto-aim is awful)

[@lamontehughes7318]

Agreed his kit needs a rework for sure. His damage output does not warrant his HP being drained.

[@zephyr2600]

You think Mihoyo will do these changes?

[@htsaul1569]

@@lamontehughes7318 IMO, he doesn't need a rework, he needs a specific set made for him, like Husk is made for Noelle, Itto and Albedo and an support like an "Anemo Gorou" . So his damage will increase by a lot and his caveats will be off set by his higher damage ceiling.

[@dsadsadsaasd5]

100% on point but it's sad to think that they won't change his kit. The only hopium for xiao mains was to get a busted support preferably a anemo catalyst (sucrose don't boost xiao's performance only for energy funneling and TTDS) and insanely good tailor made artifact set for him, and anemo resistance shred on anemo resonance.

[@dead_locked]

@@zephyr2600 ofc no

[@chil800]

Little tip for Itto's main: Switch to him to throw cow first, when the cow gets hit by enemies, he'll gain 1 stack, when the cow flees, he gain 1 more stack, he can gain stack off field.

[@asadasss263]

But his cow dmg a lot more in burst though

[@XesTube]

*Laughs in C1 Itto

[@sidorfthelag6453]

@@XesTube me too lol

[@zeromailss]

@@asadasss263 use itto E before using other character skill, once you use itto again and right after activating his burst, his E should be up again and then spam your unga bunga

[@asadasss263]

@@zeromailss ok ty

[@rizkyf.hudaya9439]

It's just crazy that while Noelle could keep up to these 2 five-stars DPS, she's also have a decent heal too that could heal all of her party at once

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

And then you realise she's been this way since launch

[@kriptionite8412]

She got way better since the husk set released

[@refujiocarrillo4217]

@@hasnihossainsami8375 no she wasn't. There was no husk set or a dedicated geo buffer like gorou in release

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

@@refujiocarrillo4217 yes but that isn't "her" changing, that's her artifacts and supports changing/getting better. I specifically said she's been this way since launch, meaning they designed her kit to be this way since the beginning. Ofc better stuff will make her, as well as any other character, better over time. Again, not my point.

[@Seven7swords]

Geo Resonance does so much for Geo's damage that C6 Noelle is outperforming Xiao. And still they buffed Geo with Husk, Gorou, and Redhorn. Xiao needs a 4 piece he can actually take full advantage of and if he can get a Ameno version of Bennet or Gorou, all the better.

[@GraveUypo]

geo needed a buf just like xiao does before 2.3. there were no suitable supports for a geo dps before. gorou is the right character at the right time. geo is fixed. now we need to fix electro and anemo. don't you hate when your element's sets are meant to buff other elements that are already stacked in the first place? viridiscent should anemo shred too, and petra should buf geo damage. it's so stupid that they don't... honestly viridiscent is actually too powerful for other elements right now, it should shred cryo pyro electro and hydro by 20% and anemo by 40%. that would be balanced. like the elements that already have multiplicative reactions needed even more of a boost.

[@tuxmaceo2020]

Geo needed all the buffs it could get. This is probably the peak geo damage buffs we’ll ever get from MHY

[@SparkyMan12]

Geo needs these buffs due to no reverse vape and melt. Xiao's new artifact set is honestly crap since its about a 6% dps boost in a full team. But it can allow you to use an ER sands and remove your anemo battery for albedo and get geo resonance on xiao. The res shred is useless but atleast the dmg buff helps him(though to the point of diminishing returns from his burst)

[@IveBeenWithBruma]

@@GraveUypo The problem with having more Anemo pen is how cons make VV look like a joke. Venti and Jean cuts an enormous amount of anemo res just by themselves with the right cons.

[@cringingyukino3282]

Once Xiao gets his proper support and sets he'll rise once more

[@khoiphan2990]

the problem is when because if mhy doesnt plan on releasing another anemo dps character, his chances of getting those are extremely low

[@magnomliman8114]

your done bro.

[@Rhyhmx]

@@khoiphan2990 They will release another Anemo DPS don't you worry about that

[@hutao5958]

it’s amazing how he can more or less compete (well, at least not lose horribly against) with the current top dpses even without a 4pc set or a support like gorou/sara tailor made for him. im alr doing 40-45k fullstack pjws solo with him, can’t imagine how much more he’d do with a tailor made 4pc set

[@mamufixie]

In your dream i guess.. like mihoyo ever did something like u hope for

[@ronin3893]

The fact that Xiao, a character that is a 5 star limited who sacrifices hp, is extreamly selfish, and has a complicated max potential combo, all traded off to do great aoe damage, and then you look at a 4 star which you probably own at C17 at this point, who can heal and shield, can swap through teammates with no downside, and is braindead easy to play, and has a lower energy cost, and does comparable or arguably better damage then Xiao? Mihoyo please give Xiao some actual artifacts and signature support, I don't want to see my boy fall off this hard again.

[@dawiuwu]

Yes pls

[@Aibadenshi]

Um... Shimenawa?

[@owowonn]

@@Aibadenshi uhm..no??? never in hell lol

[@YourMom-my3ou]

Bennet exist and is the prime support for every dps including itto unless gorou c6

[@ilsa3951]

@@Aibadenshi do you realize playing shimenawa on Xiao would make it impossible to actually use his burst lol. Shimenawa is for dps who dont need their burst like yoimiya or hu tao. Xiao already has energy generation issues, using shimenawa would make him very annoying to play

[@Juice-chan]

I wasn't aware you can cancel the burst animation on Noelle. You always learn something new. My jaw was on the floor seeing her 3 seconds timing on the regisvine. Also Dragonstriking without anemo support on Noelle is hard. Good Job on that !!!

[@AkujiTester]

Yeah after watching this video I decided to try and learn dragonstriking, but man, I'm happy if I succeed 1/30 times against a tree without anemo resonance. With resonance I can get it to work maybe 3/5 times

[@AzureAetherXx]

@@AkujiTester try practicing the dash jump slightly before the sword swing connects. In terms of fighting games it's probably similar to a 1-3 frame link which is hard but can be done with practice.

[@najundp]

try Macro on PC, hehe

[@Abel.Esteban]

Indeed, there's always something new to learn. I didn't know it was possible to dragon strike the doggos. Dude, it just blown my mind watching Noelle doing those plunging attacks on that domain.

[@Juice-chan]

@@Abel.Esteban with double anemo I can do it half-way properly. The timing is so crucial to pull when the sword hits the surface of the enemy. And since every enemy is different shaped it makes it just harder.

[@kulaninizo1475]

I absolutely adore Noelle so I’m glad that people are making more showcases and comparisons for her now. Another thing to note about Noelle is that she’s a healer as well so she removes the need for a C4 Gorou or C6 Zhongli throughout the current abyss 🥰.

[@rushilsaini6356]

She will need c6 gorou for most dps anyway so i think its fine.

[@Henocied]

She's cute and powerful, I pulled for the new 5 star sword just for her!!

[@sergis6924]

Her healing is garbage, unless you have zhongli she will just die if no shield, if you have Zhongli you don't need a shielder simply because there's an abyss buff which gives 30% hp when you burst, but also corrosion only goes down to 15% hp, as long as your zhongli shield doesn't break, it's fucking easy, and zhongli shield never breaks.

[@cresentj]

@@sergis6924 As someone that uses noelle youre statement is false. She keeps my party at full hp with her shields and heals. Frees up zhongli to be used with other teams like ganyu and hu tao.

[@sergis6924]

@BegissoR I literally said corrosion only hits to 15% of hp, it won't kill you and my zhongli shield with geo resonance 4p tenacity and 3 geo with itto having 3,5k defense, zhongli shield doesn't break.

[@razergarcia6323]

Props to Noelle, she just wants to take no Ls

[@user-qx1id1dt8x]

Lmao

[@jinatlas8674]

Well its against c0 itto. If she took Ls here, then that means powercreep is on the rise. haha

[@111111hakar]

@@jinatlas8674 Is it really power creep if its a 4 star vs a 5 star

[@jinatlas8674]

@@111111hakar c0 4 star with c0 5 star? then no C6 4 star with c0 5 star then yeah. It is power creep. Meaning even if you c6 the 4 star, it be meaningless if the c0 5 star can perform leagues beyond it.

[@joey_jp6820]

@@jinatlas8674 sure but compare it to let's say Xiao the other c0 5 star, she out performed him in a lot of categories. I'd say a c6 4 star of any character should be at the level of any c0 5 star. But a c1 and above 5 star should out perform any c6 4 star. That's how I see it at least. (Bennett, xiangling and xingqiu are the only exceptions really)

[@rex.raymond]

The flaws of Xiao is really showing in this showdown. He needs a tailor made support for him just like Raiden and Itto have Sara and Gorou respectively. Xiao sparked a few discussions lately. Mainly for feeling "powercrept" and how difficult to play he's been for awhile now in the current abyss.

[@badera3083]

Xiao is an AOE damage carry. It’s like saying Venti is weak because he’s bad against bosses.

[@reviii-s4t]

Xiao still carried my Abyss since 1.3 flawlessly, but yea indeed my Xiao is very well invested (triple crown & 220 CV aritfact with 140% ER) so I can’t argue with ppl saying kinda hard using him because indeed it is true he’s not that good if not maximized

[@jaceee4154]

anyone that says xiao is being powercrept is just bad at the game

[@rex.raymond]

@@badera3083 the issue is not the AOE but new enemies that don't favor Xiao's playstyle and his supports' buff ends before his burst duration, resulting to a dps loss. New characters get Resistance to Interruption so you can face tank enemies and not get staggered. Having Zhongli is not an option for Xiao but a NECESSITY.

[@rex.raymond]

@@jaceee4154 not exactly. Xiao needs supports that can make his playstyle with ease and comfort. People who said that are whales who plays this game very well.

[@06dnl101]

This bring justice to Noelle as DPS, but she is a healer and a shield too, so she is a versatile f2p character I believe in Noelle supremacy

[@domebou7956]

She do be constellation 6 tho

[@06dnl101]

@@domebou7956 Well, she's always a 4star, and I use her even if I have only 2 constellations

[@YeetusTheFetus]

C6 isn’t very f2p

[@06dnl101]

@@YeetusTheFetus It depends on how lucky you are. If you pull only on banners where there's Noelle, you have an higher probability to pull her, I think

[@allrounderal2958]

i spend 27 canadian dollars for redhorn just her. she is worthy of my wallet and risk through the weapon banner

[@normal6483]

As a new f2p player, this makes me pretty happy to see. I don't have many characters, but I *do* have Gorou, Noelle, and Geo Traveler. The fact that I might be able to use Gorou to his full potential with Noelle as my DPS is nice to hear, in case I don't get Itto. (And the fact that a Zhongli banner is coming up also makes me happy - I'm gonna save up for that.)

[@imsillynotstupid]

This video really proves that a proper artif set and (at the abyss half) proper supports can raise a character to high heavens. I mean C6 Noelle was already cracked(as a Noelle main I can tell you Mihoyo absolutely intended for her to be a DPS) but 2.2-2.3 really just made her an insane DPS. Edit: Tbh, people are practically misunderstanding me here. I'm not implying that Noelle is stronger/better than any other DPS. I'm only saying that her *c6* is really damn strong now compared to before(respect for those who main her pre-c6). Well, I think we're past the point of arguments breaking out now, but I've been noticing that toxic people are giving Noelle mains a bad rep.

[@bshthrasher]

Noelle is a whole SWAT team in one person, she can destroy anything that is moving in Teyvat without anyone's help and still be on full hp.)

[@naydrei4137]

Lmao no they didn't. If they did they wouldn't lock her dps potential behind c6. In the abbys runs in the noelle team her supports deal more damage than her

[@athernandez666]

@@naydrei4137 this guy watched a different video lmao

[@birdsarentreal9790]

@@naydrei4137 doesn't matter how good she is. Her support ability is crap and her kit leans toward dps so she was likely designed as a dps

[@konokhda]

@@naydrei4137 she had the same team as itto and still performed almost as good, so if that's true your basically also saying that the supports carried itto as well

[@jhoguy2693]

DPS showdown incorporating dragonstrike tech. Your dedication to dish out max damage while looking cool is off the charts. You deserve all the likes this video can get! The effort is surely worth it.

[@heavenschickxx6376]

itto being the king he is. love to see how strong he is, cant wait to see some meta evaluations. i have never been so in love with a character, he'll likely be my main for a very long time alongside ayato. i have a feeling he'll be a lot higher than many want him to be....

[@theaudiocrat]

It'd be tough to imagine an artifact set bonus for xiao that wouldnt also just make kazuha even more busted. Then again I dont think that would influence the average xiao main anyway so maybe it wouldnt matter

[@emeralddragon596]

I mean Kazuha really wants Viridescent 4 as a support so it’s not a big concern imo if we got a anemo DPS set. Optimal Kazuha build wouldn’t change

[@elibap2892]

Yeah nothing will really change, if xiao gets a dedicated artifact that buff his skill and plunge, that just opens the door for dps viable kazuha, but kazuha’s kit still heavily favors him as a support so not really optimal

[@adik7192]

Not too hard really. 2pc set could reduce elemental mastery to 0, and every point of elemental mastery gives 1% plunge bonus.

[@Walrus5]

4pc Viridescent is an insanely broken set... I doubt any anemo character would switch to a xiao tailored set (except xiao lol)

[@kelvindarctrius9737]

Xiao really needs a dedicated artifact set and an anemo support like Gorou for geo.. He sacrifices his HP for damage yet he barely keeps up with other DPS..

[@memelordanimegoddankstar6922]

In this video he didn't even use gorou,used a proto claymore and itto still beat xiao with 2x time in the longest hp boss fight that is doggo samurai

[@kelvindarctrius9737]

@@memelordanimegoddankstar6922 The more reason that Xiao needs those..

[@aerostrafe1075]

@@kelvindarctrius9737 Think the problem is a dedicated artifact set for xiao is so geared to just him that MHY has no incentive to do it. Xiao is the only one who can take a plunging focused set. The husk set has benefits to more than just itto and clam to more than just kokomi. Xiao is fucked as he wont get a set until anotherp lunging unit comes out. This plunging unit will likely be stronger than him so the artifact set will just leave him in the same place. Stronger yet still behind.

[@ianmeana904]

You do understand that anemo gorou would just em, right? Lmao

[@rumefreya]

@@aerostrafe1075 it doesn't need to be plunging artifact lmao xD itto's kit focused on CA dmg but his artifact set is far from that. im pretty sure mhy is smart enough to find a solution for this

[@Ann-cm1vx]

this just shows how strong xiao actually is. if he has what other characters have (4set artifact, dedicated support, good f2p weapon) he would be a monster.

[@shorenofficial5094]

This is just a Copium comment lmao 😂

[@Jaylio]

@@shorenofficial5094 how is it copium? They ain’t wrong

[@johnnyzhang1562]

i'd agree if xiao could be run without a good shielder. Cuz of how xiao loses a percentage of his current health, and how he isn't immune to knock back in the air, he can get interrupted. especially with the new mobs that can deal damage through shields (like corrosion), it becomes more important to invest in healers and a strong shielder as well.

[@alexsayshi6782]

@@shorenofficial5094 how??

[@RAFFI-dd2te]

but damage xiao is not very stable because you have to rely on the crit rate for more damage..

[@Shokukun]

Noelle even being compared to A Yaksha and Oni must mean she is broken

[@rushiabruh]

Always has been

[@ibegrindingyouwastetime954]

The noelle is c6 fyi

[@Indivinity]

@@ibegrindingyouwastetime954 c6 4* c0 5* fair comparison

[@ibegrindingyouwastetime954]

@@Indivinity and mainly cuz itto is always compared to noelle before and after he came out

[@ibegrindingyouwastetime954]

But anyways noelle is still a viable unit but not that great

[@hazardsigns]

What I learned from this is how damned viable Noelle is! I've enjoyed her for a while, but mainly in a support role. Seeing this, if I had missed out on Itto, Noelle would do just fine in his role. Especially with my Albedo and Gorou 🤔

[@vhincecedrick2267]

MERRY CHRISTMAS IWTL! YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AT ENTERTAINING AND TEACHING US!

[@HeiSanKos]

"my husk set is relatively dog poo" PROCEEDS TO SHOW A GOD-TIER ARTIFACT SET

[@tantzeyangmatthew5677]

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING on average >30CV per piece geez

[@mynameisharlan]

@Masaru What Hicci is saying is he can't relate. Most players can't because they don't have 30+ CV on every single artifact. I've been playing Genshin for one year and I only have very few artifacts with over 30 CV. So....yeah for most players iwintolose gaming's artifacts shown in the video are god tier. May be not for you, but you are probably in the minority.

[@luxray147]

@Masaru You were just lucky. I have farmed the domain since it came out and i don't have a single 30+ CV piece. Hell i don't even have a single 49 CV piece in all my acount and i play since launch, so if you managed to get a sand like this so early, you were REALLY lucky.

[@jx3505]

@Masaru yep. U are definitely built lucky. I've been at the domain for about 3 wks. My best artifact is a 24CV clam plume.

[@mynameisharlan]

@Masaru Either you're VERY lucky or you do resin refresh every day. Whales have a far greater chance to get artifacts with high crit values compared to f2p/low spenders because they refresh resin cap every single day. It's just math.

[@martokotka4524]

I was waiting for this, really wanted to see how Noelle stacks up against Itto in multiple scenarios. Its motivational to see that shes still good and not completely eliminated by new dps. I would like to see Diluc with the new sword as well whenever thats relevant as a comparisson.

[@sidiqdidi9925]

Itto : More damage, Hit faster Noelle : Tankier, More AOE, Heals, can swap during burst.

[@yandy8336]

@@sidiqdidi9925 both awesome

[@Asm0sday]

@@sidiqdidi9925 Can swap during burst is kinda useless to compare because you know, itto dont need to swap because his combo is enough to do good dmg

[@sidiqdidi9925]

@@Asm0sday Yeah Itto doesnt need to swap. But Noelle's ability to swap affects our playstyle as well. We can do more thing with that ability. Take Beidou x Noelle for example. You can swap to Beidou for her big counter skill damage and get back to Noelle to continue unga bunga. It open many possibilities of playstyle or strategy.

[@user-qx1id1dt8x]

@@sidiqdidi9925 agree, I would love to see this mechanic more, like itto's combo continuation after dash canceling it, that'll work wonders for yoimiya

[@kevincool878]

I absolutely love, Love, LOVE these sort of DPS showdowns. Illuminating, educational, and entertaining. Thanks for everything that you do

[@RejectedInch]

Agreed. And including f2p options also IWTL relieves from a lot of frustration players that cannot access to pricey 5* at c0, with R5 58 weapons.

[@adrenolife1460]

And that concludes my decision. I already have hutao, diluc, ayaka, childe as dps' but no 2nd sucrose or 2nd diona for my 2nd team in abyss. I liked xiao's gameplay from last event trial but as a mobile player he's super hard to control i managed to jump in wrong directions a lot or his bad camera angles and not being able to see anything down below and enemies getting pushed away at the same time. It was kinda irritating but i was still gonna go for him but now my main priority is zhongli cause i need supports more than dps'. Thanks for the video and clearing up my decision

[@jdmaldonado814]

Hopefully Xiao gets some love from Mihoyo soon. As IWTL said, he has no useful 4peice set, no dedicated 4* support and subpar 4* weapon options.

[@youdontneedtoknow7548]

Sucks to be him but is not going to happen nor should it

[@mr.destroyer421]

Deathmatch ?

[@vaellietheangel]

@@youdontneedtoknow7548 tf

[@CIO1373]

@@youdontneedtoknow7548 did yo mama hurt you?

[@N4b.f.r]

@@youdontneedtoknow7548 u're afraid that Xiao will broke the game?

[@S0L-AR1S]

Keep in mind Xiao doesn't have a dedicated set yet so he can still be more powerful we just have to wait for mihoyo...... Mihoyo will release it right?

[@DaviD-fi9lj]

Well he needs dedicated support aswell cuz itto has gorou.

[@abhishekbhattacharyya2950]

Sad to see that mihoyo doesn't really care about him. His first run was only for 2weeks (others 3weeks). His rerun is around the corner and there is no news for his buff.

[@LUSTmusicVideos]

yea why not, first give buf f to yoimiya no?

[@mamufixie]

Yes mihoyo will release new anemo sets when a new anemo dps is released and will outdamage xiao by a landslide lol… but hey its a new artifact for xiao lmao

[@maincraftsan2322]

Just waiting for new anemo dps..

[@Kloud14]

My friends laughed me when i started genshin with Noelle in my main team, now slaying all bosses with Noelle and picking up the recents geo character banners

[@CodeMody]

And thats why shenhe or Yunjin should have been anemo to support the elements dmg! I mean Cryo clearly doesn’t need any buffs to its dmg RIGHT?

[@chanlao7]

My Ganyu with Diona-Bennett-Xiangling on F12 Abyss could do 50k+120k bloom damage every CA when melt. I don't think replacing Diona with Shenhe would be better, because she'll be interrupted while aiming her CA Shenhe only works on Freeze or mono Cryo comp, or maybe Physical comp with Raiden Eula Diona Shenhe. Feel dissapointed with Shenhe kit until now. I hope they will fix her skill before release Shenhe is not neccessary. An anemo buffer like "Anemo Gorou" is more important than Shenhe.....

[@plip_plop]

@@imsillynotstupid that’s not true lol. Half of the top abyss teams last abyss were ayaka freeze, or ganyu freeze

[@EnderskrillAnimations]

@@imsillynotstupid Ganyu and Ayaka teams are extremely popular

[@abudabialli437]

Shenhe is unnecessary weight tbh. If you want a cryo support, Diona or Rosaria seem more valuable than extra damage which neither Ganyu, Eula or Ayaka need unless Mihoyo makes a new cryo dps that is super underwhleming to sell Shenhe. Seems like their current trend tbh, sell the solution to the problem that has yet to exist. Plus Shenhe's kit is just... meh? I'm not sure if they fixed or changed anything in her kit. I hope they did before her release.

[@zurieldred4101]

you know if Shenhe was at least an anemo buffer for Xiao? I am sure she will easily have a place in the meta considering by any chance Mihoyo decided to create another anemo dps. Many specially Xiao main will welcome her with open arms. But nope, she just need to be a buffer for the already OP cryo dps units.

[@utsavkhera7398]

For damage per thumbnail noelle can swap from full DEF% artifacts to DPS after she uses her burst. This way she gets extra attack from her ult. This can add like 2000 attack to her

[@designSenji]

Itto kinda also can do this, but its more of cheating

[@TerraTheWise]

As a Xiao main it pains me to see him underperform this much. To this day he still has no good F2P weapon and let’s be real blackcliff is not good. It requires killing thing before you can even get it to start working unlike others where you just have to go run up and hit something which basically means it sucks against single targets and takes a bit to ramp up in mob scenarios. Compared to 4pc husk, 2pc vv 2pc glad is utter dog water. 54% def and 24% geo damage is huge compared to just 15% anemo and 18% attack. No good supports that truly benefit him like Itto and noelle have in Gorou and lastly his plunge having that massive knockback. I’ve always hated this about Xiao’s plunge attack because it can make or break how well he performs. When the enemies are just two big oafs like ruin guards and the triple maguu’s that don’t get pushed around Xiao feels so damn good but when it’s enemies like those dogs or geovishaps that get pushed with every plunge it’s incredibly annoying because you have to chase after them every time and try to get them to regroup losing you so much dps. People already shit on Xiao now so this just added fuel to the fire. Gonna be real fun.

[@sammin3966]

Tbh part of me doesn’t really want a new set. I’ve farmed him to the point where I have 71% crit rate 257% crit dmg. But then again a new set would be a dps increase.

[@TerraTheWise]

@@sammin3966 if Xiao got a proper dedicated artifact set for him I wouldn’t care about how much resin I had to spend. I’d stay in that domain until my Xiao had godlike stats no matter how long it took neglecting all of my other characters if I needed too.

[@byronstier7438]

@@Tempus539 Nah you want to be able to run Bennett on the other side

[@ayushsoni146]

I'm pulling for Xiao because I love him. I seriously hope they do another 5 star Anemo and make a dedicated set like Noelle benefits from Itto's set and weapon. Also, need Anemo support desperately.

[@fedrikrose2277]

@@Tempus539 problem is remaining in Bennett's burst with all enemies being knocked away.

[@azu8215]

Seeing how noelle outperforms xiao just shows how the dps side of anemo is lacking even worse than geo. Anemo need a dps kit for xiao and an actual f2p weapon that works for him(all the burst dmg increase weapons dont even work for his burst)

[@joobin814]

Yeah no anemo dps artifact set

[@AbyssContent]

ive been saying it since release, anemo dps doesnt make sense at all, its a supportive element for VV shred, even the resonance gives supportive stats, cooldown and mouvment speed just take ur dose of COPIUM bcs anemo dps will never be meta without a complete rework of the element

[@joobin814]

@@AbyssContent not even an anemo dps set. Just a set that would work well for xiao. Even making glad 4pc give more plunging damage would be well appreciated

[@honnyseed9339]

Can't they just make the 4piece viridescent shred anemo by 40% percent I cant get why they can debuff other elements resistance but not it's own

[@typh2630]

@@AbyssContent the element is fine, the problem is xiao has a dps kit for a “support” type of element. That can still be fixed tho, but it’s gonna be while since there isn’t a good variety of anemo characters that could benefit from let’s say a dedicated dps set like xiao could

[@EzeOTG]

Last year I didn't want to play genshin because I thought there was no tank in the game and then a friend told me about Noelle and that she was actually a free character, and that's how I decided to start playing genshin impact. My favorite class in any game is always paladin/crusader or similar, my favorite element is earth by far, and my favorite weapons are shields of course, along with axes and secondly swords, so I fell in love with Noelle since the very beginning and she helped me to clear all the content in the game and I still use her to clear abyss every time.

[@azizsetyawan3038]

Sadly for xiao he doesn't have the special Artefacts that increase his Plungging And doesn't have his own CD weapons with match passive, since if you using homa. The +40% HP for xiao is useless because xiao damage not calculated from HP With itto, He have all of that aspects that xiao doesn't. Maybe if xiao get the match and special equipment for him. He can easily beat itto or even "maybe" ganyu Just hope xiao get his new CD weapons and his special Artefacts in his rerun

[@prohanta9360]

imo not weapon is xiao problem or his aritfacts, but how xiao doesn't have specific support. noelle and itto has gorou, at c6 gorou basically better version if not broken version of bennett for def scaling geo character. shogun has sara, kokomi has shogun. even yoimiya for next patch will have yunjin. xiao just has no specific support unless you have c4 jean

[@azizsetyawan3038]

@@prohanta9360 actually weapons too Itto weapons even for a 4 star doesn't need to kill enemy to trigger the stack And for the 5 star itto get CD for his weapon. Meanwhile xiao got CR (jade spear) Definitely CD do more damage than CR That's why most people prefer the homa on xiao that give CD than jade spear (the real xiao weapon) Even if you give homa on xiao the passive +40% HP for xiao is useless since xiao damage not calculated from HP (because it's literally a hu tao weapon not for xiao) And you need 50% HP if you want to trigger the attack bonus from passive. We all know how fragile xiao when his HP below 50% So it's definitely not match for xiao. Xiao need the new CD 5 star weapon that match his kit. just like childe get his new 5 star weapons that really match the passive with his kits

[@Shadow-187]

@@prohanta9360 yoimiya and yunjin? Whats so special about this comb? Im a Yoimiya main and a yunjin wanter, would be awesome if they fit together🤞

[@prohanta9360]

@@Shadow-187 yunjin will buff normal attack every character but not charge attack. the only character that heavily relying on normal attack is yoimiya (childe could too, but he's more like enabler instead of damage dealer), another less relying on normal attack characters are dps fischl and razor too. yunjin will provide shield too. i at first thought she will be itto pair but considering how itto relying on charge attack (as he also get additional more dmg on charge attack) including ningguang or yanfei also relying on charge attack, yunjin might not best for them. so, for early impression, yunjin will be yoimiya pair. yunjin basically can replace zhongli as shielder too so yoimiya won't be knocked back during her normal attack cycle and her shield isn't time based but hp based and how many time it get hit (uptime 100%), she can work as mono pyro or pyro-geo with albedo. her constellation also buff normal attack speed, considering yoimiya attack speed is really really fast, so with yunjin, machingun yoimiya is doable without losing damage capability (by using c2 jean or broken pines). yunjin is kinda the answer for people who wanted attack speed artifact set. i can already imagine people will make machine gun yoimiya meme team comps with broken pines, c2 jean and yunjin in future lmao

[@prohanta9360]

@@azizsetyawan3038 xiao weapon just basically powercreeped by homa and its passive kinda awkward. but imo still he needs dedicated support instead of generic one like bennett. like anemo unit dedicated support, not anemo unit as support for other elements. even though we have character that can be suitable support for him like c4 jean and c4 albedo, it's expensive to get 5star constellation. i wish we have anemo debuffer support for xiao beside c4 jean or c6 traveller and venti due to how easy VV as debuffer for other elements beside geo and anemo

[@overlordwithacontroller172]

Good to see Itto thriving. He is a really fun unit, but what I like the most about him is that He beatboxes and goes OWA OWA.

[@labibrashidinan9868]

Not to mention simping for Gorou

[@senatsuki]

Honestly seeing this showcase shows that Xiao needs a buff in terms of artifacts and 4* supports, as I myself a Xiao main is looking for proper supports for Xiao and also artifact set I actually really love Xiao myself and kinda treats him like my husband (simping problems) I hope mihoyo can buff him soon

[@Liu_0]

I didn't even care abt xiao i was amazed about jean doing 100k

[@jorgetoledo6358]

I would like to see a DPS showdown between the 5 stars from the standar banner. Diluc, keqing and maybe quiqi

[@hannahkim8770]

diluc, keqing, and jean would be the best picks (diluc would win obv) since mona is more of a burst nuke that needs a pyro support and c4 if a dps + qiqi is arguably the worst five star and has bad dmg compared to any other character tbh

[@lanaya9200]

@@hannahkim8770 i think keqing would have a chance against diluc because of mistplitter being good on her and Sara an excellent buffer for electro characters

[@sonaoanh9671]

I think we all have that compare on this channel. The one between all 5* DPS we're having rn. Tdlr. Keqing>Diluc.

[@nguyenlightduy7020]

Solo Keqing>Diluc>mona>jean>qiqi (Not sure about mona) With team Diluc>mona>keqing>jean>qiq (Only count the team where they are main DPS so morgana doesn't count) Diluc is reaction DPS And KQ are mono DPS So without reaction he will lose kq But with reaction he win

[@EzeOTG]

Eula, Diluc and Itto showdown next please! Claymores are my favorite weapons and I really like those 3!

[@EpicGamer1.]

Xiao needs his own dedicated 5* 4-piece artifact set like Zhongli, Eula, Albedo, and Arataki Itto all have, hopefully we will get one for patch update 2.4

[@EpicGamer1.]

And hopefully a good support character for Xiao and a better 5* weapon because Primordial jade winged spear isn’t even that good of a weapon in general especially compared to these new and better 5* weapons we have now.

[@googlrscholar]

yeah correct me if im wrong but he is the only dps char that doesnt have a tailor-made 4pc artifact set edit: i think keqing doesnt have one too. klee also but she can utilize crimson well. and you can argue about ganyu's too but her two 4pc choices are really good (wanderers and blizzard)

[@joshuawang3154]

@@googlrscholar Klee can't utilize the crimson witch that well, like Yoimiya she deals so much pyro Dmg to the point they overlap other elements because of that

[@burningcold2793]

Xiao needs an Anemo DPS dedicated Artifact, but I suppose that will only arrive on the next Anemo DPS that will totally change meta again

[@azizsetyawan3038]

Maybe yes maybe no. It's will just same like mihoyo add husk for albedo and also for itto Albedo also get buff too, so maybe it's will be the same with xiao and new anemo DPA/Support

[@designSenji]

He actually need atk\cdmg set, since he gain tons of dmg bonus with his burst.

[@splinterpanda]

Let's pray for a new set on kazuha rerun that buffs plunge dmg xD

[@zeromailss]

he clearly need some kind of anemo rest shreder either from a new support or new artifact set. His dmg increase from zhongli shield is huge, imagine 40% instead, even 20% almost compete with non optimized Bennett buff

[@ChaosSower99]

Xiao has many drawbacks like high poised plunging attacks, his energy problem, and his plunging attacks are paused a bit. Itto in the other hand, is monstrously strong, no comment. Noelle is rather strong due to her nigh-unique ability, like Diluc's fire blade, but when the max potential reached, she's just a bit stronger other 4 stars dpses

[@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh]

Xianling

[@Mo-up9be]

@@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh xianling is a sub dps not a dps

[@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh]

@@Mo-up9be Off field dps still more dps than noelle

[@traplegend5065]

@@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh Thats cap af

[@tucson6665]

@@Mo-up9be ???? xiangling is a carry dps lmao

[@galewindscar4474]

Just a few things that I want to point out. 1. in one rotation content, there's no need to pre-funnel Xiao with 2 Es so you can save it after his a1 passive ramps up before his burst ends for huge damage. 2. the current abyss blessing gives 30% charged attack dmg. 3. I think you did a few short plunges with Xiao near the end vs the Maguu Kenki's. Ultimately, I think the fact that Gorou also buffs Albedo by a lot too is the difference. He was dealing 30k+ per bloom. Oh, and the big wolves are just a bad matchup for Xiao. And personally, I'm not a fan of using Bennett with Xiao - especially against these wolves that almost always go out of Bennett's burst aoe. I'm a fan of Geobros + Xiao. Geo resonance lasts much longer and Albedo helps with damage and energy (albeit very little) with the some of the orbs he produces.

[@putent9623]

Don't forget that C6 jean shreds anemo, on top of zhongli, then Bennet's ult, then xiaos better rolls, then blackcliff passive actually being usable in abyss.

[@galewindscar4474]

@@putent9623 ​ yeah. thanks for pointing that out. it slipped my mind what c4 Jean does. i don't think ulting with Zhongli is worth it the precious Bennett buff uptime though.

[@danidan2174]

@@galewindscar4474 jean deal 100k each burst so your opinion on albedo deal 30k is just invalid and zhongli meteor also deal roughly 50% more in xiao team because bennet

[@galewindscar4474]

@@danidan2174 but Albedo's burst dealt like 50k plus like 20k blooms. and what I'm saying is Zhongli burst with bennett ult. The animation is too long and it takes a lot of bennett time, which leads to the "problem" he mentions. Does zhognli really need Bennett on that team? He can use the meteor without Bennett and it will still deal significant dmg and would let Xiao utilize the Bennett buff more.

[@michaelharis9962]

@@danidan2174 Jean deals 100k dmg every 17-20 seconds. Albedo deals 30k+ every 1.5 seconds. Plus he doesn't need to be on field to deal that. Just because Jean does a bigger number than him doesn't make his damage "Invalid"

[@hotkoyoto]

You've earned a sub from me. I've watched a few of your videos and that wasn't until i got back into genshin impact because of itto. To give you an idea, I started DAY 1 and got to around AR 40 grinding it for a few months then dropped it afterwards. Maybe coming back every few months or so to play for a few hours then dropping it again. Ever since I was lucky enough to get Itto (And Gorou, I love that cute doggo boy!), I've been grinding my ass off. Getting to AR 45, using mostly all my resin to get itto to 80, his weapon to 70, and some somewhat-ok artifacts. He's not hitting nearly as hard as yours. But MAN he's hitting harder than my Diluc and razor, both of which I got to 80 and their weapons to 80 (wolfgravestone) back when I started. Watching your videos, guides, and all have been a real pushing factor in me playing and you don't seem nearly as "High octane" as tectone. You definitely seem more relaxed and less memey, to which I love. So, I'd say keep up the great videos man! You're doing great! I'd love to see a c6 showdown between. Itto vs Hu Tao vs Xiao or Itto vs Eula vs Hu tao or even Itto vs Eula vs Xiao.

[@gimssong_]

I use xiao as a main Dps but his potential gradually drop and I hope Mihoyo will buff him in the future since his mechanic is sacrifice HP to do damage. However, it’s still not good enough in the recent patch.

[@iceorangutan]

Buff his ULT into an actual ult

[@okloluh]

@@iceorangutan ?

[@Iris873]

@@okloluh His burst doesn’t count as a burst damage in the game. It’s weird…so sets that are based off bursts don’t work for him

[@GraveUypo]

@@Iris873 that is also true for noelle and itto tho.

[@devam8192]

All I got to know from this showdown is that Noelle is freaking op.

[@BarQ__]

Nice pfp

[@michaelharis9962]

But you need to remember this is C6 noelle. I'm not downgrading her or anything but after this vid, don't go building your Noelle if she's not c6

[@sonaoanh9671]

@@michaelharis9962 i believe most of AR56+ has her C6 in inv. 6 times on banner, and all were good one you can name them, several times on shop. Maybe the 5* we have is the one goes along with us all the way from the start.

[@iamnoob2537]

@@michaelharis9962 I mean I am not c6 but my damage is quite fine.

[@debamchakraborty1143]

@@michaelharis9962 eh, Idk about others but I am ar 56 f2p and I probably have a c15-c16 Noelle by now. I had her c6 evenn before ar 50. Idk if it's considered lucky or not.

[@TakuminTakhoukhth]

The amount of work you put on these showdown dps videos is insane man ! Nice video as always thx !

[@AzureAetherXx]

I am glad you have finally seen the power that Noelle has. This was a very fun DPS showdown to watch. I hope on your next tier list Noelle shoots up out of C tier since shes so similar to Arataki Itto. Great job on this showdown this was your best work yet.

[@cookietpod]

Imo, she is in C tier if she is c0, as her heal is only 50% and you need her to be on-field, in c1 she might go to B? Because this improves her healing ability but again, she needs her burst to utilise it. And in C6 i can say she's in A or nearly S as she changes from a support to a dps where you let her on field most of the time. Before c6 i didn't use her but now she's c6, she is my all time character dy XD

[@AzureAetherXx]

@@cookietpod I've been using her since I got her on the beginner banner. Her shield and normal attacks were invaluable in the early game as I unga bunga'd through enemies Dark Souls style. My Noelle is now C6 triple crowned. She's been with me my entire journey in Tevat. But I do think people underestimate her strengths and are quick to dismiss her. Now that everyone can see what Itto can do I hope more people look into Noelle because I do think she's very strong. Even in the video he said that she's always been this strong since day one kinda showing that even whales were sleeping on her.

[@GraveUypo]

@@AzureAetherXx yep late game players forget that survivability was an actual asset early on. noelle is the main reason my 2nd account that has no investment (uses a bunch of random 3 star artifacts, doesn't do dailies and barely ever gets any primos, and that i never use the resin on that account and don't farm for anything) could get 3 stars in the 9th floor of the current abyss. on AR34. that's before artifact domains start dropping 4 star pieces, lol! but thanks to her performance (she's using an unrefined favonius btw), i already have some nice 5 star artifacts that i get from the abyss. i didn't want to use her in the second account since i already main her, but it's so hard NOT to when she's so damn good early on.

[@AzureAetherXx]

@@GraveUypo In 2.3 I just upgraded her with an R1 Redhorn Stonethresher and a very good 4 piece Husk of Opulent dreams set. Shes destroying everything in her wake. Its amazing. Rift wolves are like my favorite enemy to fight because Noelle just doesn't give a flying fuck about them or their corrosion.

[@IcyVeinsWithin]

I'll never forget getting Noelle on my 1st Beginner wish. I knew then she was solid. Now...8 months later...she's C6, talents at 9, 10, 11...4 piece husk...90/90 Whiteblind refinement 3 standing strong AF in the new GEO meta. I'm a Ningguang main, but let me tell you... Noelle is CRACKED.

[@AuronOne]

Since a few weeks you are finally appreciating Noelle and that really makes me happy. I remember how you usually just never used her stating you don't have her build and yet you where always placing her pretty low in tier lists :) Anyway, thanks for letting her shine a lot more now :)

[@IDoofy]

I think any combination of Eula, raiden or diluc would be nice when put in a dps showdown

[@blabloubloubla1313]

Diluc will be last tho

[@flybreak7808]

I have missied these videos so much! Great work IWTL. Keep up the good work! Always enjoy watching these.

[@-ruubi-7270]

Damn, it's sad to see Xiao lagging behind like this. I wish he had a proper artifact set and a tailor-made support. I'm still gonna pull for him because I think he's really fun, though

[@xoi69]

he is not lagging buddy most were single target enemies and noelle is good on it but xiao is bad but on aoe focused run like magu kenki floor you saw that he was as good as itto

[@EnhantedSaber]

I think the Husk Domain one was a bit unfair to Noelle. Using the petrify sort of defeats the purpose of AOE if they're stuck there. Like, there's where Noelle would shine, highly mobile lots of enemies.

[@sakumi333]

CA is also less dps than N3 dash. But still a decent clear.

[@EnhantedSaber]

@@sakumi333 I rarely use Charged for Noelle. 😂

[@GraveUypo]

@@sakumi333 not with redhorn. redhorn buffs ca more than it does na.

[@sakumi333]

@@GraveUypo yea but iwtl was using WB so I mentioned it.

[@flame5192]

I love how noelle is keeping up despite being a 4star and being the strongest starter character.. She carried my ass to my 1st ever spiral abyss clear and 1st ever full 36stars abyss..shes stronk

[@no-vj7fi]

Xiangling is arguably the strongest starter character, but Noelle is pretty good too

[@caparashon]

Wow, it's almost like weapons (f2p and p2w) that suit your kit, a tailor-made artifact set, an advanced technique for your weapon type, and supports that are made for your element can actually make you stronger and faster! Who knew, right? Sigh. As an Itto main and a Xiao main, I'm both proud and heartbroken for my boys. Lantern Rite and his rerun would've been the perfect time to give Xiao some needed buffs (an artifact set, more weapon variety, an anemo/plunge buff support) that we've been clamoring for months now, but they wasted the moment and unless they release a new plunge or anemo DPS who knows if they ever will. It's sad to think that Xiao's build options have been basically the same since *Staff of Homa*. But salt aside, I'm happy about Itto's results and that he's so good for us non-whale people too.

[@HelpMe-yi4zp]

Noelle got compared with two 5-star dps hypercarry is already winning for me, glad people start see her potential despite just being "mid" character

[@Zero-zr6xx]

I like how Gorou isn't even included Imagine if he was In here then Noelle and Itto would clap Xiao It's sad really Xiao needs a external buff

[@allrounderal2958]

she was never mid to begin with ever since the geo resonance buff. its because itto's def scaling its what highlight what she can really do to people who sleep on her potential.

[@Ben-vg6ox]

She's always been competitive but her ceiling being lower by default because she is Geo and her multiplier isn't like Ganyu

[@tadicahya6439]

@@Zero-zr6xx i don't know if that count as cheating

[@ed.2pi]

@@Zero-zr6xx if Gorou was included for Itto and Noelle then Bennet should be included for Xiao

[@LadyHermes]

Since Itto is a short time window dps, I think you should compare him with Hu Tao, Yoimiya or Raiden. Kokomi is a healer, it's not fair to compare her with a main dps character.

[@shachede6828]

their play style us different! he doesn't one shot. raiden and hutao burst can one shot almost anything. Xiao is his best comparison their play style is similar.

[@abrxxxm]

*cough cough* Noelle

[@khantmgmg.k]

For rerun, I think.

[@crispyliciouschicken244]

Yes Kokomi is a healer whose ascension upgrade, constellations, to her kit itself forces her to be a dps…. Yes a *h e a l e r*

[@panteganamuschiata1]

Seeing Noelle doing SO well was moving. Thanks for the video, great job as always!

[@farisfazlovic4302]

I just love any video iwtl makes :D

[@theRaika]

Noelle has been underrated by many, and I think it's because she was a free and a 4 star character. I even think if the shoes were swapped, and Itto was the free 4 star, the hype about his abs wouldn't have made many wanted to build him either.

[@Kurainingen]

Overrated, ton of noelle main when game released. Ton of solo abyss showcased.

[@allrounderal2958]

@@Kurainingenbeg to differ, alot ot people labeled her as jack of trade and master of none before this patch. its just when itto's scaling and BiS set that are the same as noelle that highlights how cracked she is right now. and now, i bet she's the top pick 4 star carry in this patch than several great 5 stars i know. just to show how unaware people of her true potential. and redhorn noelle is comparable to homa xiao right now, just so you know. since i have them both

[@ayushsoni146]

@Aadikar Bhandari Well, you can get C6 Noelle much easily than a C1 5 star. So... Yea... That's that.

[@allrounderal2958]

@Aadikar Bhandari lots of people has C6 4 stars than C6 5 star son. some of those C6 like xiao isn't even worth it at all

[@geovannicardenas4736]

@@ayushsoni146 me having C1 Itto, but C2 noelle, there is this thing called "Luck" you cant guarantee 4* sadly, that why I never built noelle

[@acanthafiore]

Even though this is against C0 5 stars and dragonstrike tech was utilized, something probably less than 1% players use. I'd say Noelle's performance really highlights her as a top tier on field carry. Though she's deceptively expensive to invest in. I'm still happy to main her tho.

[@GraveUypo]

oh yeah, you either main her or don't use her. no middle ground.

[@FaiGal]

If Noelle can perform just as good as Itto, I’ll save my wallet and go for Xiao. Screw the meta

[@Nagutama]

I have C6 Noelle, really invested...Itto is still more fun. Meta aside.

[@SM-tf3li]

Yeah they seem fairly close dps wise in most scenarios. So sticking with a Noelle and skipping Itto is no brainer as she also heals and shields.

[@cresentj]

Same, but im saving yae miko

[@mythologiasend3264]

Yep, Itto c0 is a less versatile C6 noelle. As always, only pull for character designs, not strenghts. I love Itto character tho

[@GimOA]

@@cresentj obvious reason for most players.

[@oongchai1329]

Whoa is video is gem packed! So much effort & so high quality. Thats what separate u from other youtuber @iwintolose gaming. U became my top genshin youtuber & fact reference

[@gunther1454]

I personally think if you plunge earlier with Xiao he could complete in less time. Idk if it works on pc or console But on mobile is easy to do Cancels the whole plunge in half and does the same dmg as a high plunge So like a medium plunge

[@havoc-k107]

I am super hyped for xiao..... have c3 Jean ( hoping to get c4 ASAP). And i have homa as well as r2 jade spear.

[@alaintouloucanon5467]

c4 Jean can't wait !!

[@waldemir5621]

Noelle other advantages: - 4☆ - Likely will get a skin in the future and be a free one - Really close or even better than those 5☆

[@user-qx1id1dt8x]

"Or even better"...I mean, depends, quite a lot

[@putent9623]

Yes a C6 noelle. I have like 16 5 stars I don't even have a C1 Noelle.

[@hubertbong2747]

The problem is that this is close to Noelles peak performance. If i were to invest in a 5 star, save half a year worth of primogems the use it all in a rerun, i could c6 a 5 star in about a year or a year and a half with just f2p primo. By then the c6 5 star will surpass a c6 Noelle by a mile. The potential of a 5* does not lie in their their baseline c0, but the ability to break the limits of a 4* peak potential by utilizing well planned investment.

[@mehranmahdlou4375]

Thank you for the video! I was already working on my Noelle main DPS mono geo team, I'm now more motivated than ever.

[@phantommohawk9939]

Still gonna pull for Xiao cuz he is strong enough for abyss. That's all that matters (I know xiao is powercrept)

[@nat6lbg440]

No, he just don't have a dedicated 4 piece set nor a 4* anemo gorou

[@magnomliman8114]

i don't get way ppl wants him hes play style is boring asf . you well droop him after a wail like me. spamming jump and click over time is fuking boring.

[@dukeofwolves1139]

@@magnomliman8114 You could always not jump and plunge. There's more to his kit than that lol

[@elias5512]

@@magnomliman8114 the same can be said for every character

[@coffeebomb_35]

Mind your own business then

[@Pixel-ei8gi]

I cringed hard when I saw Noelle mains comparing her to itto on his release, but I'm absolutely amazed now. The fact that she can do this much DPS while shielding and healing the team....I'm actually excited to get her final two cons before I start building her (sitting with C4) Note, i'm not trying to say she's better/worse than Itto/Xiao, i'm sure that'll take a lot of theorycrafting and i'm not qualified for it....i'm just shocked by how Noelle performed here, even if you see her times in isolation.

[@yandy8336]

Hello noelle main here, and imma say that itto for sure out dps noelle there is no denying that, but all i wish for is for people to stop shit talking about her, and this video is proof of how good she actually is. Also good luck getting her final cons

[@imsillynotstupid]

Mihoyo would never purposely make a 4* DPS better than 5*s tbh, except Xiangling, Xiangling is a fukin exception. Though as a Noelle Simp and Mondstadt Enjoyer I'm glad how well she's faring against two 5* DPS.

[@user-qx1id1dt8x]

@@yandy8336 no one shit talks her, if someone says something, it's because of her mains, arguably one of the most toxic ones, specially since itto's leaks, we do that for them to stfu

[@Pixel-ei8gi]

@@yandy8336 Yup that's why i'm excited, I think i'll be fine loosing some DPS (using this video as reference, assuming the DPS loss isn't that big) while gaining heals and shields as i'm bad at dodging. I currently play Eula Raiden, so an unga bunga tank character sure sounds fun to build next!

[@Asm0sday]

@@yandy8336 I will stop talk shit her if THEY stop talk shit about itto first, taking memorii stream for example, when he want to use itto his chat being salty af, say he betrayed noelle, and when he died his chat said "deserve" but when noelle died his chat be like "rip noelle" . For real, i wish noelle didn't even exist in the first place Note: i already join 3 of his stream , first one was 2.3 lives reaction and when itto came , they trash talk him already,show how bad his and noelle fandom are, well, have a good day friendly noelle main (yeah i only talking about toxic ppl so don't get offend if you are not toxic please) yeah I also found some sweet noelle main btw but it kinda hard to find atleast 10 in some comparison video

[@audiosmurf]

Yeah I think it's about time for a DPS oriented Anemo artifact set. I imagine this is only going to happen the next time a super hyped up Anemo DPS is released and they release an anemo red shred/anemo damage bonus set for them.

[@putmangaming5672]

love the video man, keep up the great work!!!

[@radodana]

The thing i get from this showdown 1. Xiao’s weapon passive didn’t always active or maximize his kit, while noelle and itto did (even whiteblind) 2. Elements matter. 2 geo make a huge gap for damage, but for 2 anemo only decrease stamina and a few CD 3. Artifacts. Xiao rely on 2 set for now but itto and noelle got full 4set match with their kit. 4. For the abyss, todays abyss buff is of course buffing the current character banner, so those huge gap time is somehow cannot be tightened. I’m not here cause I’m a xiao fans, I don’t have him either, but this comparison seems little bit odd and thats not Iwtl’s fault or mihoyo. This is maybe the one reason why xiao no longer relevant for f2p and for abyss on dmg wise

[@wrioculus]

i like xiao, way more than i like itto or noelle. please don't get the wrong idea when i ask this, but c4 jean was used so is that not a really big buff to xiao?

[@radodana]

@@wrioculus i think its really great buff, but as you can see on the abyss part. Even xiao has longer duration for his ult, when the duration of jean and bennett ult over, the dmg decrease significantly. And 1 thing that you should or probably already know, itto’s burst is snapshot. Even the gorou burst are over, the damage didn’t decrease. So yeah you got the point 😉

[@wrioculus]

@@radodana i see, thank you for explaining! then i think the odds really were against xiao on this one, one of his best supports who is already very hard to get can't even buff for his burst's full duration. i really hope he gets a more dedicated support and artifact set.

[@stargazer4438]

these xiao gamers demanding specific artifact sets as if mihoyo would care 😭

[@chil800]

Well they care enough to buff Albedo, why not Xiao? Mihoyo loves Xiao, he appears in many Liyue events, he's ones of their first characters 🥺

[@babi2452]

Well they do care? They made a specific weapon for albedo, gave it for free and artifact set for geo characters. Plus a claymore that works for both the geo claymores. And a support dedicated to geo.

[@babi2452]

@@chil800 true

[@Teddy-wz9mw]

Hope Xiao gets some decent artifacts and weapon in his next rerun.. with old artifact and blackcliff he still doing good..