DPS SHOWDOWN! Eula vs Itto vs Xiao! PURE INSANITY! Genshin Impact

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@IWinToLose
@IWinToLose 3 жыл бұрын
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@matteofaccin6636
@matteofaccin6636 3 жыл бұрын
Get that bread man, the grind never stops💯
@randominternetguy646
@randominternetguy646 3 жыл бұрын
Why ayaka not here again? 🥲
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the showdown sir 🤣🤣💀💀 this was a raiden showdown. What going on 🥴🥴🥴. Still thank for the time and dedication.
@user-ms9hb5jf2h
@user-ms9hb5jf2h 3 жыл бұрын
hey I have a video suggestion! maybe you can compare eula+raiden, ayaka+shenhe, ganyu+shenhe, and hu tao+xingqiu ? it would be a fun video to watch the top dps compete
@rafaelchianca
@rafaelchianca 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I tryed to download this game (looks good), but apparently it's not available in my country Brazil. Can you talk with them?
@user-qx1id1dt8x
@user-qx1id1dt8x 3 жыл бұрын
Expectation: xiao vs itto vs eula Reality: *torn to oblivion*
@looots1320
@looots1320 3 жыл бұрын
Raiden it's my show now
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 3 жыл бұрын
You get. 😂😂😂 barely saw eula in that abyss.
@croak5966
@croak5966 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaheeranwarkhan not to mention it indirectly helps raiden as well since Eula's high cost pays for a good chunk of her stacks
@dczai
@dczai 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent go outside
@bhellzeboss7541
@bhellzeboss7541 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaheeranwarkhan complitly agree. I was one of those who said use her. And i pulled for riden specifically because i saw the sinergy. Ever since i pulled riden, i stopped using any other electro for eula. Before that i would have considered fishl, beidou and Lisa based on the situation
@WaddyDohn
@WaddyDohn 3 жыл бұрын
Celestia Final Boss Fight: Iwtl's C6 Eula: *Finally something that doesnt die in 20seconds*
@distraction2803
@distraction2803 3 жыл бұрын
It'll still die in 20 frames lmao
@AnirBout
@AnirBout 3 жыл бұрын
Hey wohn
@thedreamleader
@thedreamleader 3 жыл бұрын
yeah not 20 seconds but 21 SECONDS
@burningcold2793
@burningcold2793 3 жыл бұрын
DADDY? Sorry Wohn
@Cynerlc
@Cynerlc 3 жыл бұрын
i mean to be fair it should have the same mechanics where u cant deal a certain amount of dmge to avoid 1 shot(signora currently)
@theHeavyMetalHermit
@theHeavyMetalHermit 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, when we compare Xiao, Itto, and Eula, the character that come out on top in terms of DPS is Raiden Shogun :D
@ravens4200
@ravens4200 3 жыл бұрын
C2 Raiden is just no joke
@stefanobesliu6458
@stefanobesliu6458 3 жыл бұрын
Mihoyo's logic: Dps characters who only deal dmg have lower dps than a hybrid who doesnt only deal dmg but also buffs the team's ult dmg and recharges them. Game's balancing was broken before inazuma, but now its just inexistent.
@ggnick1695
@ggnick1695 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever team Raiden is on wins
@kingdoom5022
@kingdoom5022 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanobesliu6458 Raiden don't deals more damage than itto as a DPS at C0 , her C2 is just insanely broken and unbalanced , at C0 she deals the same level damage as xiao if you manage to get huge stacks but she isn't itto ganyu hu tao xiangling ayaka or beidou levels of damage but her C2 is easily over 50% damage increase and her weapon is over 20% damage increase
@stefanobesliu6458
@stefanobesliu6458 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingdoom5022 at least its good that she is an archon so after a year of dominating she will get hard countered just like venti and now slowly zhongli. Raiden isnt as easy to counter as zhongli or venti though. Her c2 just seems like mihoyo's worst mistake at this point. At least units like ganyu or ayaka who are unbalanced only do one thing. Problem is that she doesnt even need reactions or good timing. Just spam all ult buffs and she does the best dps. Rotations for energy recharge arent even needed because she recharges everyone's ults by dealing dmg. Kazuha and raiden seem like the hardest ones to not make worth using.
@creeperawwman9510
@creeperawwman9510 3 жыл бұрын
Eula's main attack: TORN TO ONLIVION!! Xiao's main attack: INAZUMA SHINES ETERNAL!!! Itto: Wait a minute
@itzexotic_
@itzexotic_ 3 жыл бұрын
Xiao and itto: Literally swinging their weapons Eula: Hey, catch!
@rynzlir4414
@rynzlir4414 3 жыл бұрын
i know its not a doc ock reference but it reminds me of doc ock saying catch in nwh
@godsceo7516
@godsceo7516 2 жыл бұрын
@@rynzlir4414 huh
@AramakiMakizo
@AramakiMakizo Жыл бұрын
XL
@mustafajaved3593
@mustafajaved3593 3 жыл бұрын
"The whole point of speedrunning is to speedrun". Wise words.
@teehee3442
@teehee3442 3 жыл бұрын
That's just very true
@Devilboy_1029
@Devilboy_1029 3 жыл бұрын
How can one be so wise
@kallenlivesmatter3229
@kallenlivesmatter3229 3 жыл бұрын
Just because you are correct doesnt mean you are right
@neoreulboyeojwo1496
@neoreulboyeojwo1496 3 жыл бұрын
To survive hardship, we must prepare for hardship
@mamufixie
@mamufixie 3 жыл бұрын
@@neoreulboyeojwo1496 each fish swims in their own direction
@seang7578
@seang7578 3 жыл бұрын
Me: “Oh hey! My Itto is actually pretty close to that ratio! I must have done pretty we-“ Him: “Sadly, Itto has the *worst* of the three’s artifacts…” 😐
@zokoblin6799
@zokoblin6799 3 жыл бұрын
His Itto’s stats initially look very good until you remember that 88% of that CD comes from Redhorn. So the artifacts still has a lot of room for improvement
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
@@zokoblin6799 yea me too also c6 gives 70 more i guess
@vw3913
@vw3913 3 жыл бұрын
💀
@Zelrith
@Zelrith 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoi69 its only 70% more Crit when hes in his burst
@phuongnhungtran9383
@phuongnhungtran9383 3 жыл бұрын
but he had his own set so it is quite far,I guess
@devam8192
@devam8192 3 жыл бұрын
The 2.4 abyss run felt like itto was competing against 2 Raidens instead if xiao and eula XD.
@asadasss263
@asadasss263 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah haha the title should be team showcase and not really Xiao vs itto vs eula I think it's very misleading
@bruhshkebabs
@bruhshkebabs 3 жыл бұрын
That’s because raiden is Eula’s best support
@emotionalavocado2336
@emotionalavocado2336 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruhshkebabs realistically if eula didn’t pre use burst in most of overworld times she would be slower/same time.
@itsmrdante6274
@itsmrdante6274 3 жыл бұрын
@@emotionalavocado2336 Yeah, but that's how you use Eula. It's the same way I use my C0 Eula as well. Also the fact that she has Raiden's ult on command on her team is insane. I use Eula, Raiden, Rosaria and Bennett in the team and they absolutely destroy everything they go against.
@asadasss263
@asadasss263 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsmrdante6274 I don't disagree with that eula team are amazing but that's the thing it's more of a team DPS showcase rather than actual Xiao vs itto vs eula
@Swarrrovski1337
@Swarrrovski1337 2 жыл бұрын
Expactation: Xiao vs Itto vs Eula Reality: Raiden vs Itto vs Raiden
@hmmyes8964
@hmmyes8964 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Xiao wasn't even far off even with his issues brings a tear to my eye
@TheReaIestOne
@TheReaIestOne 3 жыл бұрын
Mf has no dedicated artifact set or support but still competing with the best of them. 🤣
@sweatymobilegamer784
@sweatymobilegamer784 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of relative clear times for Abyss, Anemo Xiao was pretty far off.
@PIKACHUisBetterThanGoku
@PIKACHUisBetterThanGoku 3 жыл бұрын
He was meta during 1.3+ Since 2.0 he's falling off He doesn't have good artifact sets or dedicated supports His constellations are meh too C1 and C6 are ok but C2 and C4 👽
@TheReaIestOne
@TheReaIestOne 3 жыл бұрын
@@PIKACHUisBetterThanGoku I agree that his constellations 2 and 4 seem like they were designed by 5 year olds. 🤣 Mihoyo clearly wanted to nerf his ass so bad back then because he'd have easily stomped the hardest content at that time. Now it seems like Mihoyo doesn't give a fuck if a character is broken as long as it's selling well. So they put out a perfect artifact set along with a dedicated weapon as well as support for them. I wish Xiao had gotten that same treatment. I hope he does in the future. However, I think xiao is one of those characters that's gonna sell just fine despite his flaws. Because of his character. And how unique and fun his playstyle is. Look at me I've got no Zhongli or Kazuha but i kept pulling for xiao and finally got him yesterday. And I'm gonna triple crown his ass.🤣👍
@PIKACHUisBetterThanGoku
@PIKACHUisBetterThanGoku 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheReaIestOne If mihoyo didn't nerf his Q plunge speed / auto heal when his plunge hits an opponent / His special talent that gives him anemo DGM bonus etc... 😭
@raidenmei1843
@raidenmei1843 3 жыл бұрын
We can say that EULA's nuking potential send CHILLS down the spine
@mamufixie
@mamufixie 3 жыл бұрын
Eula Ei best teammate ever
@alikouwu
@alikouwu 3 жыл бұрын
The serpent spine
@Yoexlol
@Yoexlol 3 жыл бұрын
Eula best
@FilmFlam-8008
@FilmFlam-8008 3 жыл бұрын
Tactical nuke.
@tsundude4320
@tsundude4320 3 жыл бұрын
Dad?
@khalbrando9931
@khalbrando9931 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think the timing method is ok for Eula for the fact that she can start building stacks during invulnerable windows. That’s something to consider when you use her
@mamufixie
@mamufixie 3 жыл бұрын
i tried building stack for Eula on azdaha invulnerable phase but it didnt work why
@biblioteca2268
@biblioteca2268 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is some of her PROS
@IamTito2201
@IamTito2201 3 жыл бұрын
agree, it's part of her kit after all
@teehee3442
@teehee3442 3 жыл бұрын
@@mamufixie idk probably timing actually I never tried it myself I should try it out
@loInani
@loInani 3 жыл бұрын
@@mamufixie you dont get stacks if you cant damage the enemy
@awesum7944
@awesum7944 3 жыл бұрын
You use Eula's kit to her intended use and potential (stacking and backloading damage, if the enemies have a slow windup animation where they get up, it is SUPPOSED to favor Eula, and you can't discount that just so other characters can compete. Even if you started the timer during the invul phase of the primo vishap, it would just add 7+ seconds to everyone, eula will still nuke it the moment its resistance are down, so imo your metric is fine, eulas kit is just amazing at abusing some bosses. Shes weaker against multi phase bosses, but Raiden covers that perfectly in combination with Eula.
@Gennosuke1983
@Gennosuke1983 3 жыл бұрын
It's not fine lol, attacking random enemies then teleporting to the boss to blow them up is not how things work in real gameplay situations like Abyss. Obviously Eula still wins, but she doesn't have 0.04s times, that's just ridiculous. Building the stacks on her Burst is part of the Burst, that's why fighting the same enemies with Eula can have totally different results because they dash and you miss stacks or you don't crit, etc. This is the same as the Noelle showcase when he was timing the shield blowup to DRAMATICALLY decrease Noelle's clear times. That's not DPS, because in normal scenarios you can't time the shield blow up
@beamboleo
@beamboleo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gennosuke1983 i mean it's clear they're showcasing non abyss and this could actually work in real gameplay against open world bosses which is what they're showing here
@awesum7944
@awesum7944 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gennosuke1983 that was only 1 test, which we can honestly scrap and you can still see eula outperforming the other 2
@awesum7944
@awesum7944 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gennosuke1983 as for critting, I think it's Eula own strength that allows for perfect crit fishing (aka 1 big hit). Ayaka cant do that, it is Eula's kit, thus Eula's strength. I think it is fair to skew crit rate crit dmg to crit fish, just to optimize dmg
@Amir-ih6jj
@Amir-ih6jj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gennosuke1983 isn't that the reason why he divides his videos for overworld and abyss parts? If you want abyss showcases just watch them and ignore the whole overworld part.
@Wandermidget
@Wandermidget 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the limited 5* ungas that fulfill all 3 of the attack variant ungas. Xiao ungas from the sky (plunge) Itto ungas from the land (charged) and Eula ungas in general (normal)
@GabEggSandwiches
@GabEggSandwiches 3 жыл бұрын
One is high, one sniffs glue, one eats quality paint
@vi5133
@vi5133 3 жыл бұрын
Eula’s damage is so frontloaded it *feels* unfair, but when you think about it it’s really reasonable. Eula can build stacks during invulnerable phases. It’s part of her kit and anyone with a eula can do it. It’d be more unfair to nerf Eula and not use her how intended just for a more “fair” time. Great work as always!!
@BushSage
@BushSage 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, a Eula player wouldn't stop swinging just because the boss is invincible if it meant they could still gain stacks, so its completely realistic
@jb2k043
@jb2k043 2 жыл бұрын
Wait I don’t have Eula but why was her crit dmg 160ish?
@kidperfect5464
@kidperfect5464 2 жыл бұрын
@@jb2k043 Her signature weapon sobp doesnt give crit as a substat or passive while xiaos and ittos do, hence the “low” crit damage (even tho that ratio is decent from just artifacts) but her talent multipliers make up for it cuz they are just ridiculous. at level 12 her burst base damage is 850% and every stack from her burst(which she gets from hitting NA’s and her skill) she gets +175% on every stack. she can get 30 stacks max and is basically only with c6 r5 sobp (it gives attack speed in the passive) so then her burst comes out to 6100% which is just an ungodly amount
@tawsifking9336
@tawsifking9336 2 жыл бұрын
@@kidperfect5464 also her damage 4.5x throw whale stuff when compered to a f2p normaly but she still good at c0 600k burst ain't bad
@Games-yq9sc
@Games-yq9sc 2 жыл бұрын
Hoyoverse arent even allowed to nerf characters
@kingdoom5022
@kingdoom5022 3 жыл бұрын
Raiden shogun C2 is insanely OP that getting her C2 meaning you basically got a C6 5 star
@kodachifps
@kodachifps 3 жыл бұрын
Eh C3 is also a huge boost in damage
@Commievn
@Commievn 3 жыл бұрын
Raiden C2 comes close but she still needs C3 to compete with other C6 5 stars.
@teehee3442
@teehee3442 3 жыл бұрын
@@Commievn nah she be aight with out it
@PenguinsAreColdish
@PenguinsAreColdish 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent that's not true c3 is an 18-25% dmg boost the 10% damage boost you're thinking of is r5 catch to engulfing lightning, assuming that you also have atk buffs from sara and bennett
@NonstopNoah
@NonstopNoah 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent you're not adding to or expanding on your argument, you're just repeating what you said before..
@Sunshine-tx8bt
@Sunshine-tx8bt 3 жыл бұрын
I think that raiden was used a lot in the abyss but I really enjoyed seeing eula dominate with her 0.7 second times
@Agnisuriya
@Agnisuriya 3 жыл бұрын
Have u seen pyro eula? C6 bennet ruined eula damage so it's not that big of a hyper carry
@gaiusx287
@gaiusx287 3 жыл бұрын
That only works in open world though
@ααε-φ1η
@ααε-φ1η 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaiusx287 so what can any other dps do it in open world... Why so salty bro he's saying he enjoyed seeing that.
@ααε-φ1η
@ααε-φ1η 3 жыл бұрын
@@Agnisuriya her lightfall sword dmg can't be override with elemental infusion. Where did u see that.. (im not to sure though)
@Agnisuriya
@Agnisuriya 3 жыл бұрын
@@ααε-φ1η but normal attack stacking will turn into pyro
@TsuchiGamer06
@TsuchiGamer06 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the top dps characters sre characters that dont require reactions. Yes they require good supports to make them great but Non Vape/Melt teams are really healthy actually
@pnoodl3s775
@pnoodl3s775 3 жыл бұрын
Out of these, only xiao and itto don’t use reactions. Eula, Raiden and other dps like Ayaka, Ganyu, Hu Tao all benefits greatly from reaction. Raiden uses overload-vaporized reaction to great effect, and Eula uses superconduct.
@H2Ocup
@H2Ocup 3 жыл бұрын
@@pnoodl3s775I mean in the National comp. Yea raiden uses those reactions,but as a hyper carry(which she is the best as at c0) she really doesn't need reactions.
@josephusaquila
@josephusaquila 3 жыл бұрын
@@pnoodl3s775 My only gripe about this showdown is that both Xiao and Itto are element infusing characters whereas Eula uses a nuke burst. It doesn't quite add up to me that Eula is included to this showdown where her playstyle is very devoid to how Xiao and Itto uses their burst. I know they are all DPS' but this showcase is just sideways for that factor. And yes, despite Eula having no benefits from major reaction, but she does have superconduct available to her, which synergizes with her playstyle; she already have a factor that makes her more powerful than both Xiao and Itto, in which they have no match with.
@pnoodl3s775
@pnoodl3s775 3 жыл бұрын
@@H2Ocup In some variants of hypercarry she still uses reactions, like Sunfire Raiden or Kazuha Raiden. Jean and Kazuha can trigger huge overload damage with Raiden electro infusion and their Pyro swirl. Of course most of her damage is not based on reactions, but I'd argue she can still gain much benefits out of it, unlike Itto and Xiao who both literally gain nothing from their reactions.
@annettegarde2636
@annettegarde2636 2 жыл бұрын
@@pnoodl3s775 eula can also go without superconduct, the phy resistance shred from her e skill is good enough
@grove4mylife
@grove4mylife 3 жыл бұрын
Three character showdown - Xiao, Itto and Eula Raiden: Allow me to introduce myself
@foolpersona_
@foolpersona_ 3 жыл бұрын
Just the fact that Eula is the only one here that actually can utilize Raiden due to her shorter burst window and insanely good synergy with literally EVERYTHING that Raiden has in her kit says a lot already. You can't be powercrept if your the best partner for an archon (which only gets better with constellations) not even talking about DPS which is pretty obvious, just team building, Eula is the only one who does not need someone dedicated. She doesn't need a specific electro to apply superconduct, she doesn't need a specific battery, unlike Hu Tao who needs Xingqiu without a replacement or Itto who needs Gorou which no other geo can replace. She's also the most team flexible character as you don't need to worry about her as much to make her good (compared to Ayaka who only excels in freeze teams) I've seen people run Eula in a melt national variation even and dominate speedrun rankings. It's just insane Edit: Also to point out some of the parts in the video which were unfair to Eula. First the builds, Eula had the worst crit ratio out of all three of them and this is a big issue because out of them 3, she scales the most with better artifacts. The gap would be wider in every category if the artifacts were better. In Overworld where Eula won every single fight, his Eula never used food (see the bathysmal vishap fight. If the other 2 didnt use food, they might not have been able to beat both enemies in 9 seconds and once one of them jumps away, speedrunning is pointless. this is the reason why shintenzu intentionally used food on Xiao which IWTL followed suit with Itto) Moreover, in the geovishap fight, if IWTL removed Zhongli's shield, Eula would still one shot it. This is an issue to the other two who can't shred resistance by themselves and would have lead to longer clear times for both of them (add to the fact that always putting zhongli shield negates the advantage of Eula's burst having super armor-- then again doesn't matter because of the timing methodology) In the abyss, the run by Mr. 89 for 2.3 rotation was a great speedrun and showed unparalleled synergy between the Eula+Ei in continuous runs where having dual hypercarry is the way to go (it's the only real dual hypercarry comp right now that's not for showcase and actually comfy to use regardless of constellations) Both Itto and Xiao are not made to be in a dual carry team with issues like long burst duration and low downtime. Specifically C6 Itto which has almost no downtime, with caveat that both his C2 and Gorou requires more geo in the team. Continuing in the 2.4 abyss run, it was obvious that the entire top half was unfair to Eula with everyone having massive physical resistance. Literally every chamber. Itto faced the same issue in the second chamber with primo geovishap, but being disadvantaged in one chamber is not the same as on all chambers (and the abyss blessing compensated heavily on damage) The last thing is that IWTL showed a "Cryo Eula" run for the final comparison which is fine but if he did a Eula focused team ( like instead of Sara+Kazuha, he put Bennett+Rosaria or even remove Raiden core for another Eula-centric team) then IWTL could have shown the capabilities of Eula even without Raiden instead of using an obvious meme team that is only viable with a C6 Shenhe.
@mamufixie
@mamufixie 3 жыл бұрын
very true indeed.. People are salty abt Eula winning here and how well she pairs with raiden.. not Eulas fault Itto n xiao cant utilize raiden as good as Eula can.. And Eula doing 1 mil there is freakin insane
@nix4238
@nix4238 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent 🤨📸
@CityDestroyer
@CityDestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent 😶
@hd8q81h
@hd8q81h 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent bro is down bad
@arhurcomth
@arhurcomth 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaheeranwarkhan that can be true and false, Eula-Raiden is Eula's best team yes, but it isn't raiden's best team, and it also isn't the Team in which Eula can achieve her highest dps potential, it just has higher team dps because raiden
@lian4321
@lian4321 3 жыл бұрын
C6 Xiao is such a delight to watch he has the most satisfying play style of any character. Kinda sad he is held back by not having a perfect fit support and a dedicated artifact set.
@lili-mj5ib
@lili-mj5ib 3 жыл бұрын
Nah mihoyo never love xiao
@itsdomd0misticn00b7
@itsdomd0misticn00b7 3 жыл бұрын
Mihoyo is a Xiangling enthusiast
@kish4corheunbl
@kish4corheunbl 3 жыл бұрын
Aside from what you mentioned, I also think his burst is really bad. Look at itto, it's literally the same concept but just so much better. Both deals aoe damage but Itto does it faster, hence he deals way more damage overall, his ult also doesn't have a negative effect such as life consuming like Xiao's and the energy restrictions while in burst mode. What xiao needs is a rework on his ult. Make plunging and jumping faster, increase it's damage at least a little, remove the debuffs of the ult. Also make a better weapon for that boi Xiao cus goddamn that pjs' effect is garbage. It's like his signature weapon but only aesthetically.
@hritikx5848
@hritikx5848 3 жыл бұрын
@@kish4corheunbl And 4 pice artifact set and good supports
@yeogiwaa7502
@yeogiwaa7502 3 жыл бұрын
@@kish4corheunbl basically bringing back his cbt version, he's plunging so fast in cbt.
@H2Ocup
@H2Ocup 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say itto did really goddam well in 2.3 abyss against eula considering the geovishaps resist geo and the rifthounds resisting any element, though eula didn't have this problem cuz raiden. Edit:Some people just can't understand I was praising itto,not saying it was unfair for him,or that eula or raiden had an advantage.
@sweetmysttsweetmystovichh2338
@sweetmysttsweetmystovichh2338 3 жыл бұрын
He has Phyz resist too
@H2Ocup
@H2Ocup 3 жыл бұрын
@@sweetmysttsweetmystovichh2338 Raiden did all the dmg there ಠ_ಠ
@waifulover1538
@waifulover1538 3 жыл бұрын
@@H2Ocup i mean he said use their best support.. in abyss u use every advantage u have
@H2Ocup
@H2Ocup 3 жыл бұрын
@@waifulover1538 I was not discrediting eula or raiden,I was just saying itto did very good despite the disadvantages he had. *And c'mon is raiden really just a support?*
@teehee3442
@teehee3442 3 жыл бұрын
@@H2Ocup ye raiden is the best support 🥴
@sampan04
@sampan04 3 жыл бұрын
C6 Eula is just disgustingly good, nice oneee
@bilalenriquez4444
@bilalenriquez4444 3 жыл бұрын
It's just unfair honestly add to the fact that the best current archon is her BIS teammate is an overkill.
@yumekomomobami828
@yumekomomobami828 3 жыл бұрын
@@bilalenriquez4444 Well, it's not really Eula's fault that Itto and Xiao can't utilize Raiden like Eula does
@SolracNexus
@SolracNexus 3 жыл бұрын
"This comparison is unfair, [insert changes to make it balanced]" Also them when their favorite character does better than others: "this is fair, nothing wrong here"
@jhoeofhoe
@jhoeofhoe 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah cant stop laughing at all the salty comments. Ive read one guy saying that he shouldve put raiden or another nuker to xiaos or ittos team They just cant understand that eula-raiden team is the best team for her hence using it
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
true i think if you cou count the stack of eula itto would be pretty close in overworld and thats carzy consideirng he was worst built in compare to that insane xiao and eula
@infiternity6586
@infiternity6586 3 жыл бұрын
They just really can't accept it It's just eula's role to be a nuke DPS While Xiao and Itto is a sustain/continuous dmg If they want a fairer competition should've been Ganyu instead of Eula then
@corpshu
@corpshu 3 жыл бұрын
I mean you shouldn’t hold back a character’s potential to make others look better. Even he showed that it was by vote that Raiden should be paired with Eula because it brings the best of her. If you say “Raiden carried” for the Eula team, they used Raiden for Xiao too
@pedrocabreja3184
@pedrocabreja3184 3 жыл бұрын
I mean xiao was c5 almost the whole video and he did bad runs for example look at 15:05 for some reason he switch characters still having Xian’s ult and he doesn’t got the best control using c6 xiao and for some reason he disrespected xiao by literally comparing Raiden and support xiao vs itto vs Raiden and support eula.
@_mako
@_mako 3 жыл бұрын
Eula's stack building before the enemy is vulnerable is an inherent advantage of her backloaded burst. I think its only fair to consider that
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
yea notice how he didnt fight phase boses like childe itto would have easily won that ones the one he did was magu kenki and you saw how close itto was like just 1 sec behind while having the worst build and lowest talents
@foolishtook2727
@foolishtook2727 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoi69 no he wouldn't lmao
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
@@foolishtook2727 did you see magu Kenki fight kiddo
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
@@foolishtook2727 she won by pure luck only 1 sec ahead 😂
@foolishtook2727
@foolishtook2727 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoi69 nah eula's faster and stronger
@Goblinhandler
@Goblinhandler 3 жыл бұрын
When Xiao eventually gets an artifact set, it will probably include recharging a pretty big chunk of his burst on activation
@Oxygen1004
@Oxygen1004 3 жыл бұрын
There was leaked set it has 2p 18% ATK and a 4p of 8% ATK on burst activation. Along with a 10% ATK buff every time the character's HP goes down with a max of 4 stacks so you might be able to run an ER sands with it's total of 66% ATK at max stacks
@jay_1212
@jay_1212 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oxygen1004 so pretty much he’s just doing even more damage than before. Hey I’m for it
@angelsoflolz
@angelsoflolz 2 жыл бұрын
Oomfie I have bad news
@chiwisquetap3433
@chiwisquetap3433 2 жыл бұрын
No
@sirj5922
@sirj5922 2 жыл бұрын
This didn't age well
@makiserintarou1370
@makiserintarou1370 3 жыл бұрын
I really just want to thank you for these quality dps showdowns! As well as for your other videos too! You and your videos really help a lot of players to pick which character they would pull for and how to maximize their characters’ potential.
@Calvin-hq3bh
@Calvin-hq3bh 3 жыл бұрын
Alot of people are saying Eula's way of measuring is unfair but it's the same thing as using Xiao with R5 homa and starting with below 50% hp.
@seiraaina2067
@seiraaina2067 3 жыл бұрын
What learned from this video: I need to save up for Raiden c2 lol. The abyss Eula+Raiden run for me is like Eula providing off field support damage to a hyper carry Raiden, and I love it. XD
@bilalenriquez4444
@bilalenriquez4444 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 2 way carry team with 70/30 split damage with eula doing the most as she's taking the 60% of rotation.
@bilalenriquez4444
@bilalenriquez4444 3 жыл бұрын
@@bot-xk8nz In this abyss I agree, as EULA is way weaker this rotation, but for most of the time my comment holds true.
@whowhatwherewhen5820
@whowhatwherewhen5820 3 жыл бұрын
The method for timing Eula is fine, she is the exception when compared to other characters, and is part of her kit.
@callmerei
@callmerei 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should start counting when the boss aggros you, since Abyss starts counting when you start the challenge, even before the invincibility frames for the boss.
@callmerei
@callmerei 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaheeranwarkhan Then start counting when she builds her stacks-
@IWinToLose
@IWinToLose 3 жыл бұрын
So my thoughts on this that I didn't fully explain in the video. Eula has this back loaded damage advantage where she can use the bosses invulnerability against them. It's why she's not in my DPS showdowns regularly because there's always a creative way to blow things up with her. The fairest alternative, after thinking about it more, is IMO to start timing when the boss's health bar appear. This lowers the percentage difference in time but it keeps the difference in time roughly the same to make it Look more competitive. There's just no getting around Eula's kit working the way it does against these specific mobs. Anyway, I'm open to feedback! Thank you everyone who have left constructive feedback and how you felt about all this!
@user-vp2ve4sh7h
@user-vp2ve4sh7h 3 жыл бұрын
@@IWinToLose i say there's no point in changing it as the name says it's "invincibility" so no one would be doing damage just that eula herself has an advantage of doing something productive during that time and it's an advantage to her kit that should be to give her the edge over others taking it away or trying to work around it would be like saying "well ganyu can insta charge with c6 let's not do that"
@Mathster_live
@Mathster_live 3 жыл бұрын
@@IWinToLose My feedback is to keep it as is because her stacking mechanic is part of her playstyle. If people start pressuring you to not use it then they don't really understand Eula's playstyle then. It's like asking any pyro dps to not vape or melt just because characters like Itto or Xiao can't do it.
@infiternity6586
@infiternity6586 3 жыл бұрын
@@IWinToLose The showdown is fine bro and the showcase also Maybe what is wrong is putting eula in the showdown vs those two dps, eula is just on another level of dps considering she pair well with Raiden But really good showdown overall
@TheZeug
@TheZeug 3 жыл бұрын
Fastest way to clear abyss with Xiao : doing it with Raiden. And still there are some people who think he should not have a dedicated set/weapon or a support. Honnestly the fact that he can't produce particules during burst is garbage/lazy design just because of C6. The particules should be produced if C6 is not active.
@blaze8308
@blaze8308 3 жыл бұрын
He needs something like a set which gives him more ER and ignores enemies defences.
@midwestairway
@midwestairway 3 жыл бұрын
there needs to be more supports, especially for units who dont do reaction damage
@looots1320
@looots1320 3 жыл бұрын
I think every player thinks he should have a dedicated support, but not artifacts, cause he ain't special CN doesn't even like Xiao, as a Chinese we don't like edgy people, Mihoyo even ignores him, look at him as an extra in the recent quest where he shows up and disappear without even any voice
@zenring11
@zenring11 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree. This the kind of situation that makes me go wtf is KQM even talking about. I can't believe all the KQM TC think Xiao is fine as is, and doesn't need a dedicated support and artifact set.
@looots1320
@looots1320 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent Raiden is great why
@shuuhoward2996
@shuuhoward2996 3 жыл бұрын
Why are people salty Eula is winning? It is not her fault that she is best pair with raiden. If no raiden, Eula Beidou Fishcl Diona also can be used. With Diona Noblese, and Fishcl Tenacity.
@jonathanalatriste465
@jonathanalatriste465 3 жыл бұрын
Irs hard to say Eula is winning when raiden’s the strongest character in the game shes more just complimenting raiden rather than being supported by her
@putent9623
@putent9623 3 жыл бұрын
Beidou is nowhere near as strong as C6 Raiden like in this video. The reason why the runs were so fast was because Raiden could nearly one shot everything while eula literally one shot everything, so it was just one tap then one tap again.
@whisperviz1346
@whisperviz1346 3 жыл бұрын
maybe they are salty because they have C0 Eula 😂 The gap between her C0 and C6 is ridiculous. haha
@InanisNihil
@InanisNihil 3 жыл бұрын
@@whisperviz1346 could be.. personally... i have c0 eula and c0 raiden.. i wasnt even aware of how both dominated together the fk out stuff every thing per this video .. butt i been default running them as my two main favorites on the over world.. xD guess i just got good taste.. waifu over meta.. and in this case my waifu selection happened to be top notch meta.. lmao do remember an older vid he made.. ganyu vs hutao vs eula.. and who could clear all the world bosses fastest.. eula won that still.. sure she didnt clear all of them the fastets. butt she clear more of them the fastest.. and he didnt use the timeing set up.. probably cause that wasnt something people figured out back then..
@uwutm813
@uwutm813 3 жыл бұрын
@@whisperviz1346 Got both raiden and Eula c0 and im just happy to see them winning. But tbh it was obvious Human Nuke Eula was winning this she is a nuke while the other are consistent.
@nateklempner561
@nateklempner561 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the non-Abyss segments were almost completely just renditions of: Guy with stopwatch: "Alright, on your marks. Get set. G-" Eula: "I'm done. They're dead."
@cyruswang9354
@cyruswang9354 3 жыл бұрын
man using portable wave points in a dps show down. next dps showcase, he's gonna straight up fight the ruin guard next to the ocean and drown kill it in 0 seconds
@themikster4858
@themikster4858 3 жыл бұрын
Should have had that Qiqi in this dps showdown too lmao
@RoyalBlue-ge2oj
@RoyalBlue-ge2oj 3 жыл бұрын
ikr she is crazy with all that damege D:
@saery4523
@saery4523 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao right
@maincraftsan2322
@maincraftsan2322 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Qiqi is winner bro
@yurika6375
@yurika6375 3 жыл бұрын
as a xiao main i would've rather seen xiao main dps having slower runs than itto or eula than seeing xiao used as a viridescent support for raiden and you calling it a "xiao run". i have never, ever seen anyone intentionally play xiao like that so it looked really unfair. yeah, xiao may not be as good as the other two, but that abyss run was just raiden vs itto vs eula and didn't seem to prove any point whatsoever. I guess i'm a little mad, but I genuinely love your content mate so all I can say is I'm disappointed in that abyss run and hope you could've addressed it better, maybe even used someone else like shintenzu's runs for 2.4 instead of doing it yourself because you not being used to playing xiao gets even more evident in that specific run. again, no hate, i tune into your videos within minutes of their release but just my thoughts
@axisboise
@axisboise 3 жыл бұрын
He always does this to Xiao lmao,
@johnnydiep2122
@johnnydiep2122 3 жыл бұрын
The whole point was "the fastest time possible with their optimal teams." This is a speedrun video after all. Maybe he didn't play Xiao the way you think he should, but the truth is that Xiao MDPS just isn't anywhere near as broken as these other characters and his optimal team isn't a team where he's the main damage dealer. He shows you later what time pure Anemo MDPS Xiao got, just not the gameplay.
@lysandar1121
@lysandar1121 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnydiep2122 the video is called a "dps showdown" making one of the featured chars a support who is doing no damage is in no way a showcase of their dps
@somethingbesidesmyrealname5389
@somethingbesidesmyrealname5389 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnydiep2122 I mean still feels pretty dumb cause 2/3 teams were just Raiden. Even in the "Eula" teams you had 2 characters built to support Raiden and Eula's just there to occasionally ult. It's hard to quantify but it's about the intention of who the team is built around. Like when he did his Amber vs Diona vs Aloy video he basically tried to maximize those characters. Not just run like elegy amber for Hutao and say "hey guys amber won". I'd prefer that, even if Raiden is allowed as a support, than just "Raiden wins".
@Mecha1035
@Mecha1035 3 жыл бұрын
@@lysandar1121 dps showdown =/= dps showcase
@ungabunga46
@ungabunga46 3 жыл бұрын
Ppl in the comments saying “Why is this vid a Raiden showcase?” Well This is how Raiden - Eula team comp works ( for whales ) Eula Q boom , Raiden Q - chamber cleared Then Raiden again - chamber cleared Raiden again and Eula has her burst back + Q and finish
@cyruswang9354
@cyruswang9354 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would've been more fair I'm itto was allowed to use c4 ayakal
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the problem. 🤣🤣🤣 he name it eula. It should have been eula raiden vs ALL CHARACTER. Because no team can compete with that combo. Except raiden ayaka
@shawb2157
@shawb2157 3 жыл бұрын
cool. Now do that with C0 characters.
@ungabunga46
@ungabunga46 3 жыл бұрын
@@shawb2157 Yea Raiden and Eula still better even at c0 😌 Xiao c0 r1 still mid, Itto is decent good
@ungabunga46
@ungabunga46 3 жыл бұрын
@@shawb2157 Person without Eula trying to say something to someone with Eula, Xiao and Itto: 🧐
@hiimapop7755
@hiimapop7755 3 жыл бұрын
13:33 There's something so fun and satisfying watching 3 uninterrupted whale runs on the Abyss. Great video as always.
@KazeSenseii
@KazeSenseii 3 жыл бұрын
Abyss turned into a Raiden showcase for a minute there 😭
@delta_cosmic
@delta_cosmic 3 жыл бұрын
IWinToLose Gaming: So who did you think won this DPS Showdown? Eula, Itto, or Xiao? Me: Raiden Shogun and kazhua
@reinaters
@reinaters 3 жыл бұрын
why....kazuha? he's not even in here
@byakko4518
@byakko4518 3 жыл бұрын
@@reinaters he doesn't need to be her, kazuha always wins.
@TheBilayer
@TheBilayer 3 жыл бұрын
This video qiqi is the main show like per hit 50k with speed
@pw9065
@pw9065 3 жыл бұрын
Hiiii, I have been waiting for this video for so long. Thank you for all the effort that everyone put into this:) Generally speaking, I really like this dps showdown video. I can understand your reasoning behind most of the methodologies other than the last portion of the video. I was also one of the people who agreed/voted that raiden can be used in eula team. But my expectation was having her as just a battery and have all the other support supporting eula (because she is the carry). I think it will be much better if the supports brought into the teams are not sara and kazuha (bc they support raiden more than they do eula/xiao), and instead someone like zhongli and c6 rosaria which leans more towards supporting eula for example. It’s more acceptable imo. Other than that, I’m perfectly fine:) once again thank you soo much!
@hazard1one
@hazard1one 3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess ,it's gonna be an easy win for Eula-Raiden .
@hendiivanmahendro1381
@hendiivanmahendro1381 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the video, it's not fair
@chanahyun259
@chanahyun259 3 жыл бұрын
as they should tho purrr
@looots1320
@looots1320 3 жыл бұрын
Just Raiden LoL, I barely saw Eula
@jihyothegod2628
@jihyothegod2628 3 жыл бұрын
@@looots1320 yeah 700k burst damage is a very "barely" thing lmao
@asadasss263
@asadasss263 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's should be team showcase the title kinda miss leading
@redreaper3608
@redreaper3608 3 жыл бұрын
i tune out for a moment and then all i hear are several raiden's activating her burst. Forgot what vid I was watching for a moment
@darklink6994
@darklink6994 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of want to see more Ayaka in your DPS showdown, with Schene support i am really curious how she would compare.
@ThishandlefeatureISdumb
@ThishandlefeatureISdumb 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no guys, my “Itto has the worst artifacts among the 3 characters” says IWinToLose Gaming who has 91.8 crit rate and 219.0 crit dmg on his Itto. Lol
@yabe9029
@yabe9029 3 жыл бұрын
Well he's right itto artifact is avarage (80/67) +210%cv.
@kodachifps
@kodachifps 3 жыл бұрын
His itto does have pretty shit artifacts tbh because I have 75 crit rate and 240 crit damage on my itto and I don’t have that good of artifacts either
@michaelharis9962
@michaelharis9962 3 жыл бұрын
Itto gains crit rate from his ascension and his claymore gives a whopping 88.2% crit dmg
@shawb2157
@shawb2157 3 жыл бұрын
When you have 92 crit rate and a 88% CDmg weapon but still you are on a 220% CDMG, it's really the worst build ever. I have seen casual streamers having a much better ratio like 70/280 or atleast 75/250.
@pingoo8735
@pingoo8735 3 жыл бұрын
@@shawb2157 Lmfao his Itto is better just by value of crit rate to crit damage. 1:2 ratio is better than 1:3 ratio, do you play by virtue of damage per screenshot or damage per second?
@MahamidMayhem
@MahamidMayhem 3 жыл бұрын
Baal literally did 530k something burst lmao, that helps Eula a ton in terms of saving time
@looots1320
@looots1320 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't get it, Raiden won the showdown lol, Xiao and Eula barely got any screen time
@MahamidMayhem
@MahamidMayhem 3 жыл бұрын
@@looots1320 she's crazy strong lmao, kinda wanna c2 mine now cuz that constellation is fucking busted
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 3 жыл бұрын
@@MahamidMayhem this is C6 c2 will not do this lol. C6 is beyond cracked. Oh I think you mean c2 raiden. Yes sir. It’s crazy
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 3 жыл бұрын
@PeterPanda yeah I thought he was talking about eula. Not raiden. My mistake
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
that is ike 2-3 slashes of itto
@JongkieArt
@JongkieArt 3 жыл бұрын
Expectation: Xiao vs Itto vs Eula Reality: Raiden vs Itto vs Raiden
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
imagine if his itto was insanely built
@lili-mj5ib
@lili-mj5ib 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoi69 there is not much different, also we can see gorou there with his build 90/260 cdm with gorou thats already broke...
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
@@lili-mj5ib 😂 260 for c6 whale is bad I have redhorn and still have 240 that's broken lmao itto was most badly built and at most disadvantage well if you waifu wins you'll not accept it
@lili-mj5ib
@lili-mj5ib 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoi69 well i don't even have eula lol i already skip eula 2 times, how the hell did u call me a simp? My heart already for daddy Zhong 😂😂😂
@lili-mj5ib
@lili-mj5ib 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoi69 you must be a simp for itto lol
@piguien4295
@piguien4295 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently got Itto and I had Eula And it made me realize how flexible physical dmg is. Yeah there isn’t too much geo invulnerable opponents but I still noticed how annoying it is to deal with them😭😭
@bandito4515
@bandito4515 3 жыл бұрын
i have a mostly mono geo team with: Itto, Gorou, Zhongli and Bennet. Idrc about Spyrall Abyss. But man its so hard to deal with shields if Itto's Ult is not charged and being F2P its really hard to funnel energy to itto because zhongli isnt a great battery and gorou isnt enough.
@davistsang4192
@davistsang4192 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, physical might not be the best answer for all situation, but it IS always an answer for every situation. Superconduct + Eula's hold E shreds 65% physical resistance already, which is more than enough for most cases. The only thing that's immune to physical damage is a random debuff on weekly bounty. That basically never affects your regular daily gameplay.
@VG_Yugi
@VG_Yugi 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandito4515 yeah I run into the same problem. The real reason that he wasn’t having energy issues here was ittos constellation 2, which I think he honestly forgot about. It makes the cost so much lower and gives so much free recharge it’s crazy
@bandito4515
@bandito4515 3 жыл бұрын
@@VG_Yugi Very true, you need to constantly rotate back to itto after using an elemental skill to funnel all the particles possible to itto. His C2 makes it hella easier and makes his energy demands go away on their own but it's just not possible for a F2P player. My solution the problem was getting the free Yun Jin from the lantern rite event and replacing Zhongli with her. Itto is a tank himself with around 2500 Def so he doesn't really need shields. He makes his own Crystallise shields which are more than enough with the amount of def he has. So yea f2p struggles I guess.
@VG_Yugi
@VG_Yugi 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandito4515 the resistance shred from zhongli is extremely good, so so geo resonance res shred. Zhongli can also generate particles off field with pillar, I honestly recommend putting him back in your party unless you need it for melt ganyu in abyss or something. Yun Jun is an overall worse character, especially since her burst doesn’t work on ittos charged attacks
@jmell458
@jmell458 3 жыл бұрын
I was fine with Xiao being a support since your content usually focuses on speedrunning perspectives. I think the issue with defining a support vs DPS in this situation is that Raiden is both in a Eula team. To support the team, Raiden has to take up field time dealing DPS. So having Xiao as a support is probably a little different than having him as a DPS, even though I think it was fine to do so.
@tharushakarunaratne3692
@tharushakarunaratne3692 3 жыл бұрын
If u listened to him carefully he mentioned that even in eulas runs raiden did more dmg than eula.
@cikplays7375
@cikplays7375 3 жыл бұрын
I think the current system is fine it'll be impossible to get a metric that will be fait the all characters considering each character has different strengths and weakness great video tho although I just wish Raiden wasn't there she stole the show I remember losing my 50/50😭😭
@danielvinceneo3556
@danielvinceneo3556 3 жыл бұрын
In term of... FUN : Xiao DAMAGE : Eula SATISFACTION : Itto OVERALL: Raiden
@cirnobyl9158
@cirnobyl9158 3 жыл бұрын
OVERALL : Raiden
@reizshfelonia6471
@reizshfelonia6471 3 жыл бұрын
Itto is just too fun. UNGA BUNGA is the best form of gameplay. Also Xiao needs a dedicated set.
@yiyunzhuo5991
@yiyunzhuo5991 3 жыл бұрын
@@reizshfelonia6471 agree. I always make sure the cow cooldown is down before I start swinging
@looots1320
@looots1320 3 жыл бұрын
GOLD
@Shintenzux
@Shintenzux 3 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet summerchild I hope you don't let go of that mindset. :)
@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA
@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA 3 жыл бұрын
8:40 I think it’s already fair because after all that’s what Eula does,she’s supposed to be a nuke and after all this is for entertainment only :) 10:35 *OK LMAO I KNOW THIS IS TOTALLY RIGHT BUT DAMN THIS WAS JUST RIDICULOUS AND I LOVE IT,EULAAAAA*
@northerndpour
@northerndpour 3 жыл бұрын
Eula's burst is a DPScreenshot, the others are DPSecond. I think they should've count Eula's preparation too to make it fair for the others?
@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA
@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA 3 жыл бұрын
@@northerndpour Maybe so but that would only be necessary in a video that is a competition or a real dps showdown where "the one with the best time is declared the best dps" but this is just a video meant for entertainment and who doesn’t like to see Eula being disrespectful when it comes to ridiculously killing the whole game? XD
@northerndpour
@northerndpour 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA Yeah but this video says "DPS SHOWDOWN". I was expecting to see how fast Eula can stack with c6 and more but turns out this video doesn't start the timer on the prep
@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA
@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA 3 жыл бұрын
@@northerndpour It is a DPS showdown but it isn’t a serious one
@matteofaccin6636
@matteofaccin6636 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. It feels so satisfying to see 6-digit damage numbers every attack, knowing I'll never reach this damage but admiring it all the same
@implant3567
@implant3567 3 жыл бұрын
personally i think that the timing should be done when characters are swapped in. i get that a lot of people in the comments are like "its just a part of what makes eula good", which is fair, but i feel as if its a more accurate and informative measurement if it's once a character is swapped in. just my opinion tho :)
@zephyr2901
@zephyr2901 3 жыл бұрын
Continues nerf before releasing Xiao is really hurting him now. No energy when in burst, can't dash after plunge etc. Hope they remove those and at the same time have a good anemo support, not just for plunge because that's not gonna help if he's c6.
@cyruswang9354
@cyruswang9354 3 жыл бұрын
as a representative of mihoyo fuck no
@milabo8009
@milabo8009 3 жыл бұрын
@@cyruswang9354 But why
@cyruswang9354
@cyruswang9354 3 жыл бұрын
@@milabo8009 That would piss off xiao mains for insinuating that xiao wasn't good enough and hence needed a buff.
@milabo8009
@milabo8009 3 жыл бұрын
@@cyruswang9354 I am a Xiao main, and I think he desperately needs buffs, there's so much stuff that could be reworked, I don't think he's complete garbage like some people are saying but he could be a lot better too. Why does there have to be two extremes?
@snoobcat
@snoobcat 3 жыл бұрын
@@cyruswang9354 That's the dumbest take i've heard today. I'm a Xiao main and i want him to get buffed. And nobody will be upset if their main character gets buffed are you kidding me? Eula mains, hutao mains, raiden mains etc all will be happy if their main character gets buffed even more. Congrats for being a clown btw.
@paarthsinghal2333
@paarthsinghal2333 3 жыл бұрын
People commenting on how Xiao, Itto and Eula performed... Me just wondering what that Qiqi is doing!
@Boomdizzle99
@Boomdizzle99 3 жыл бұрын
Eula is a walking BOMB loved how she just teleported into the bathysmal bishap lair and then they just dissapeared KEKL
@santischenck549
@santischenck549 3 жыл бұрын
Everyday i'm prouder of being a Eula+Raiden main
@howaitodesu7619
@howaitodesu7619 3 жыл бұрын
Shortly about the results: -Which of Xiao, Itto, Eula will win? -Raiden.
@chanderule605
@chanderule605 3 жыл бұрын
Qiqi
@ultimophantom8395
@ultimophantom8395 3 жыл бұрын
na bro its qiqi
@Violate..
@Violate.. 3 жыл бұрын
It is obviously obvious that qiqi came out on top
@Ardenzia777
@Ardenzia777 3 жыл бұрын
in the end, it turned to Raiden showdown and not a xiao and Eula showdown, which while i adore Raiden, I'm not a big fan of this. This exist to show the pluses and minuses of the characters as the focus of their team. for example, the xiao dps showcase turned to a xiao support showcase, which it shouldn't of. and Eula's dps showcase was fully shared with raiden, who is the other mega burst damage character in the game.
@pedromiura7693
@pedromiura7693 3 жыл бұрын
While what you said is true if all you want is a straight comparison between the characters. I feel like it's far more relevant to get the full picture on how they perform in their competitive teams. On top of that the multiple runs/explanations paint a pretty clear picture on their individual performance.
@asadasss263
@asadasss263 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's just kinda weird in my opinion the better title should be team show case since that's the focus here
@RealResas
@RealResas 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaheeranwarkhan I think it just annoys people that, unlike xingqiu, raiden contributes to the dps very directly. Ofc Xingqiu is very important for characters like hu tao because of vaporize, but he doesnt deal nearly as much as hu tao, he just enabels her, meanwhile raiden and eula complement each other in such a way that both deal huge damage, so they are both a dps in that sense. Honestly its just hard to compare Eula's best comp to others, not because i think her being in a comp with raiden is unfair, but because raiden is just so busted.
@josebaltoomarnilson4762
@josebaltoomarnilson4762 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaheeranwarkhan raiden is the main dps, eula is the subdps in the team that's what people are annoyed about
@kushsinha2663
@kushsinha2663 3 жыл бұрын
if anything i think this should highlight the need for mihoyo to add some sort of support character for Xiao. Possibly a character that is a particle generator or a character that allows anemo characters the ability to infuse an element during their attacks but not it being swirl. However, these additions will be unlikely to happen.
@mavisseafoam
@mavisseafoam 3 жыл бұрын
Why unlikely? They’ve been doing tons of niche supports lately (Sara, Shenhe, Yunjin, Gorou, etc.)
@netorare7840
@netorare7840 3 жыл бұрын
Or just completely remove energy lock during burst
@Elethea_Ashbringer
@Elethea_Ashbringer 3 жыл бұрын
They just added yunjin wich is a basic atack sup thta benefits yoimia the most so i think that a sup that is a anemo particle generator, a plunge buffer or even a anemo infuser is possible
@Elethea_Ashbringer
@Elethea_Ashbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent dont do that to my edgy boy is just got him
@Elethea_Ashbringer
@Elethea_Ashbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@netorare7840 i think that would be a good idea because you could dash in your ult a have it up all the time
@Yeehaaw277
@Yeehaaw277 2 жыл бұрын
very fair normal attack characters vs burst character applauses -_- if it was normal attacks even bennett buff wouldnt help eula to beat itto
@DRealLove
@DRealLove 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love Raiden Shogun!!!! I can't wait for you to test Ayaka + Shenhe next. I feel Ayaka Shenhe at whale levels are 1 of the top 2 teams in the game now along with raiden teams. I mean now ayaka doesn't need energy to do massive damage. She can even do 100k autos like it's nothing now.
@konokhda
@konokhda 3 жыл бұрын
if you look at speedruns, currently whale level Shenhe Ayaka is by far the best team and the rest aren't even close, not even Raiden teams, its just broken
@DRealLove
@DRealLove 3 жыл бұрын
@@konokhda From the results i just looked at raiden still leading in most stages, unless im looking at the wrong leaderboards. I have these characters at whale levels myself and im in a whale chat in discord also. I definitely wouldn't be surprised to see the shenhe ayaka combo take over the leaderboards. Especially since ayaka doesn't have to worry about energy anymore.
@konokhda
@konokhda 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRealLove I think the best part of Shenhe is that her C6 turns C6 Ayaka into a monster with her C6 heavy hits, so she literally has no downtime at all. for 2.3 abyss Shenhe Ayaka combo cleared the whole first half of floor 12 in 26 seconds, that's the fastest clearing time I found, for 2.4, the fastest Shenhe Ayaka run is 53 seconds, I think that's the fastest run I've seen so far, I've seen melt Ganyu and Raiden teams clearing in a bit over 60 seconds
@DRealLove
@DRealLove 3 жыл бұрын
@@konokhda Yo thats actually the fastest run i've heard. If you know where that vid is please link it to me. Man that combo is so deadly. I have shenhe c6 and she definitly turned my ayaka to a monster. My other whale peeps have done 100k autos with her and yunjin on the team. She attacks so fast sometimes it kills faster than a charge attack alone. Can't wait for iwtl to do that video. It should be amazing.
@konokhda
@konokhda 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRealLove kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaK6mGapqNOlpdk&ab_channel=TonyTo this is the link for the 26 second run for the 2.3 abyss, and for the 2.4 one I remembered the time wrong, its 59 seconds, but for some reason everytime I send links from CN sites the comment disappears, maybe its some weird KZbin algorithm lol, and that video isn't uploaded on KZbin
@rexw2
@rexw2 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno about Xiao as a VV support unit. At that point, you might as well use anemo traveler as the constellation reduces the enemy resistances even further. Knowing it's a main dps showdown, using Xiao as a support is kinda cheating imo as the optimal way to use Eula is indeed with Xiao but the optimal way for Xiao is with Bennett and that's it. Outside of that, a very well informative video!
@albehoe2327
@albehoe2327 3 жыл бұрын
Bennett and Venti kewk
@Sam_2148
@Sam_2148 3 жыл бұрын
@Laurent true
@ajis1337
@ajis1337 3 жыл бұрын
IWTL did include more DPS-focused setups with Xiao that don't include Raiden Shogun in the comp. It's just that Xiao compares so poorly to Raiden's OP-ness that it's probably too sad to show it. A raiden-less run for Eula and Xiao at least has them both competitive against each other.
@_rishabell
@_rishabell 3 жыл бұрын
@Εἰλείθυια ‘raiden shogun simp who says other characters are trash’ = 🗑
@shawb2157
@shawb2157 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all "informative video". 99% of the community can't refer to this video as most of them have C0 characters.
@iPrimal
@iPrimal 3 жыл бұрын
At first I pull Eula and Raiden because I like Eula and using fish as a support doesn't seem cool. I didn't know that I'm pulling for a demon.
@whisperviz1346
@whisperviz1346 3 жыл бұрын
Try kazuha, bennet and C6 Sara. Pair them with raiden. you will see the demon true form.
@bilalenriquez4444
@bilalenriquez4444 3 жыл бұрын
Eula is just so damn fun to play, add that she's way too strong for her own good and her design Masterpiece
@iPrimal
@iPrimal 3 жыл бұрын
@@whisperviz1346 sadly i only got Bennet ;-; I'm gonna get Kazuman tho
@Skull5604
@Skull5604 3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of ego posting goung around This is how eula works, nothing more, nothing less. Watching 13s vs 0.20s doesn't mean itto/xiao are 60 times worse than eula. They have completely different methods of delivering damage or batterying up, along with their respective weaknesses
@imamms7097
@imamms7097 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, the comment section summary : "NoT FaiiIIRRrr" ,. so in other words, this kind of video 'hurts' them when their fav characters are not winning
@shblade5984
@shblade5984 3 жыл бұрын
it's just that many bosses favor Eula with their long ass starting animations
@azuarc
@azuarc 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the sponsored ad transitioned seamlessly into youtube ads.
@zeroisnine
@zeroisnine 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe should have listed a hypercarry Raiden time to compare... though that would kinda just invalidate the competition, lol. Good stuff!
@SM-tf3li
@SM-tf3li 3 жыл бұрын
I think he said that Raiden hypercarry on her own couldn't clear abyss faster than the Eula+Raiden combo.
@zeroisnine
@zeroisnine 3 жыл бұрын
@@SM-tf3li he did, i would just be curious on the time difference
@kleescanor2372
@kleescanor2372 3 жыл бұрын
@@SM-tf3li raiden hypercarry that would clear the abyss faster eula + raiden,
@Mecha1035
@Mecha1035 3 жыл бұрын
I think eula should be able to perfarm stacks on enemies while they're invincible, its not like its some completely out of the way thing to do, and its part of her innate kit just like how a ranged dps like Ganyu could outdo Eula easily in some situations just due to having a bow I agree with starting the timer during the invulnerability tho, it would've been that way if you were challenging abyss
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 3 жыл бұрын
Even DPS ganyu can’t match any of the time eula posted above. Any. Lol.
@RichD2024
@RichD2024 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the same comparison with the characters at C0 since most of us will never see C6 versions of these
@mamufixie
@mamufixie 3 жыл бұрын
Same results trust me
@josebaltoomarnilson4762
@josebaltoomarnilson4762 2 жыл бұрын
@@mamufixie not really tbh, since he was also using whale artifacts and supports xiao at c0 goes even lower and itto would probably be equal to raiden eula, considering raiden eula only oneshot these enemies due to whaleness
@sankaranarayanan4479
@sankaranarayanan4479 2 жыл бұрын
At c0 Itto would be equal to Eula with Xiao falling behind
@Azusa0320
@Azusa0320 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like aliss with her ganyu still topped even raiden+eula, amazing
@lefthandedglasses5241
@lefthandedglasses5241 3 жыл бұрын
All I saw in the abyss showdown was booba swords lol
@frankie1833
@frankie1833 3 жыл бұрын
i like how before each little showcase you have Qiqi just destroying everything
@TheSayanox
@TheSayanox 3 жыл бұрын
I think Eula building stacks is fair cuz you still lose that time when doing abyss. Her being able to use that dead time is the same as support precasting buff to avoid losing time. No one just wait for the boss to be vulnerable to do anything stop coping
@itsdomd0misticn00b7
@itsdomd0misticn00b7 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaheeranwarkhan Omfg I can't believe I didn't realize this, I feel ashamed as a Eula main since her first banner
@mamufixie
@mamufixie 3 жыл бұрын
wait u can build stack early? i thought the stacks doesnt count while the boss in still invulnerable
@kevvinn.3787
@kevvinn.3787 3 жыл бұрын
@@mamufixie you build stacks as long as you do damage. It works against primo geovishap, but not against Maguu Kenki.
@ayongjohnvincent320
@ayongjohnvincent320 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. It's just like how ganyu is timed when she precast her burst before the geovishap wakes up
@xoi69
@xoi69 3 жыл бұрын
its fair bcs your simp
@parsahatami8609
@parsahatami8609 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think itto did a really good job competing with two eis
@danielvinceneo3556
@danielvinceneo3556 3 жыл бұрын
Xiao and Itto is good for consistency Eula is a boss killing machine
@JackLuong
@JackLuong 3 жыл бұрын
when one character is worse than another in one aspect doesn't mean they are automatically better than others. Xiao is the most inconsistent among the 3
@shblade5984
@shblade5984 3 жыл бұрын
@@JackLuong Yea, I think if you are f2p and don't have Raiden, Itto > Eula, as Eula can pull this stuff only at C6 and at C0 without Raiden it's pretty clunky with ER
@user-qx1id1dt8x
@user-qx1id1dt8x 3 жыл бұрын
@@shblade5984 well, diona and rosaria exist
@ungabunga46
@ungabunga46 3 жыл бұрын
@@shblade5984 Eula Fischl Rosaria and Diona No energy problem + this team energy gain is higher than Raiden If u are talking about f2p dmg etc… Itto needs Albedo or Zhongli (excluding gorou cuz he’s easy to get for f2p players) for a better performance so I don’t understand why u brought up this “””problem “”” Eula has the fish claymore ( good weapon ) Itto has the white blind ( kinda meh weap ) I have all of theme and Eula is still better
@senseioct8564
@senseioct8564 3 жыл бұрын
@@ungabunga46 realistically it all depends on what you got, my itto does better for me. Also whiteblind benefits itto more than sea-lord does for eula.
@nikhilsharma-sookdeo9545
@nikhilsharma-sookdeo9545 3 жыл бұрын
As a raiden and eula main, seeing the salt in these comments is absolutely hilarious XD In all seriousness though, itto is an absolutely solid unit!
@SI4NA
@SI4NA 3 жыл бұрын
In the end, the support and sets makes the DPS. If Xiao had a good artefact set and good supports like Itto/Eula, he'd be up there as well
@asfduejs5813
@asfduejs5813 2 жыл бұрын
agreeeeee
@asfduejs5813
@asfduejs5813 2 жыл бұрын
we need supports to buff anemo dmg and plunge attacks
@ismikoo
@ismikoo 3 жыл бұрын
Expectation Xiao vs Itto vs Eula Reality: Raiden vs Itto
@lili-mj5ib
@lili-mj5ib 3 жыл бұрын
The fastest clearing xiao is without using xiao lol..
@ismikoo
@ismikoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@lili-mj5ib 😂😂😂😂
@Su_Lüxia
@Su_Lüxia 3 жыл бұрын
@@lili-mj5ib XIA OMEGALUL
@gane_3519
@gane_3519 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of Cryo Eula, should’ve included a Eula + Fischl in order to see the difference with/without Raiden (EDIT: or even with Raiden, at least focus the supp characters more on Eula instead of Raiden)
@IamTito2201
@IamTito2201 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but fischl only provide superconduct and some sup dps, which is nothing compared to gorou, albedo. and her other teammate probably rosaria, bennett, make it a f2p team vs whale team.
@Rye-Uh
@Rye-Uh 3 жыл бұрын
At the very least, a Eula + Raiden team without Kazu and Sara, 2 characters that highly support Raiden than Eula.
@658639613
@658639613 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rye-Uh That's also my problem...Raiden is a support for Eula, but Kazuha and Sara don't have any synergy with Eula, they are there to support Raiden not Eula. It's pretty unfair...
@Rawzix
@Rawzix 3 жыл бұрын
Ok then remove Gorou from Itto team
@Kat-wu5sh
@Kat-wu5sh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rawzix gorou only buffs itto, he has no damage output. Raiden supports, debuffs enemies, and does a shit ton of damage as well. Not only that but gorou is a 4 star, and raiden is a 5 star, so it's a lot more realistic to have an itto and a gorou in the same team, than both an Eula and a raiden.
@MegaSJ
@MegaSJ 3 жыл бұрын
These videos from IWTL are for fun, even explains it in his disclaimers for every video, and should never be used as examples when you're trying to form an opinion on a character's strength level for the average account. Do you all really think this is what the average performance for these characters look like? I see a lot of you basing your opinions of characters off of this video.
@FWU100
@FWU100 2 жыл бұрын
Itto: Hey Raiden Shogun is that you? Guess what? You're not the boss of me, uh-hum that's right, you heard me go ahead strike me down. Raiden: Miko hold my dango milk real quick.
@noobmelody932
@noobmelody932 2 жыл бұрын
Others ppl : focusing on dps showdown Also me : focusing on qiqi dps 👀
@rawlinsfernandes6819
@rawlinsfernandes6819 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we get a physical 5* support thats shreds and improve damage for eula like shenha is for cryo lol
@Boshe2005
@Boshe2005 3 жыл бұрын
Use C6 Rosaria and C4 Xinyan. Now u don't have to waste Primos
@DaddyVladiTV
@DaddyVladiTV 3 жыл бұрын
Well it's already in the game. Eulas best team is with xinyan - Bennett and Raiden C4 xinyan gives 15% physical damage + and 15% physical resistance shred, she can also use r5 gravestone for 80% attack buff to eula. Which allows eula to hit 3m open world and 7+ in abyss. Which is also why they capped the damage to 9.9
@katyushapravda8105
@katyushapravda8105 3 жыл бұрын
As eula and raiden main, I'm very happy watching this vid and when eula just standing there waiting for xiao and itto finish their run is just hilarious. Nice vid dudee...
@musicdz8135
@musicdz8135 2 жыл бұрын
Theres a new artifact set that give u extra damage everytime u lose hp during burst. Seems like Xiaos gonna be fine in the future
@Redditingas
@Redditingas 2 жыл бұрын
bro the dad jokes dont stop lmao keep em coming
@dinospfc
@dinospfc 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I think ER is entirely underrated in the community. While CR/CD is the golden standard of stat rolls, and most people go for the "minimum requirement" of ER, if at all (I've seen plenty of sub 110% ER Xiao builds), people don't realize that under continuous content where you can't 1 cycle and done, ER becomes an overall DPS gain simply because majority of characters are heavily burst dependent. Anecdotally, I've never not had Xiao burst on CD in Abyss and I've never had to stall to catch particles to do so, and I still manage 80/180 CR/CD (with team buffs) while having 140-180 ER. My artifacts aren't even optimally rolled for him, under IWTL metrics, probably around 60-70% damage potential.
@klaviergavin5401
@klaviergavin5401 3 жыл бұрын
er? when was er _underrated_ ? er is the bread and butter of the national team and you call it _underrated_ ?
@klaviergavin5401
@klaviergavin5401 3 жыл бұрын
not to mention the amount of er and burst-oriented weapons in the game + we have Raiden, the er god. no one ever considers er _underrated_ of all things
@ghostroaster410
@ghostroaster410 3 жыл бұрын
So the fastest xiao clear is without using xiao...
@lili-mj5ib
@lili-mj5ib 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@MyOnlyFeelingisHATE
@MyOnlyFeelingisHATE 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like there should have been a physical dps eula with beidou or fischl in non raiden comparison can't imagine it wouldn't do better then cryo
@arsenelupine
@arsenelupine 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a DPS showdown where you only use the DPS unit (no support teammates) just to see which one is the best DPS unit.
@HaqqiPlays
@HaqqiPlays 2 жыл бұрын
That would be unfair for a dps that relies on reaction since non reaction dps usually have higher scaling but a reaction reliant dps have higher dmg ceiling.So its better to test them with their best teamcomp
@loefllmusic
@loefllmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Very great video, I could watch this channel for hours. Props and greetings from Poland👌🇵🇱
@lucasilario6190
@lucasilario6190 3 жыл бұрын
Standing here I realize this is just a Raiden showcase
@DEEZ_N4T
@DEEZ_N4T 2 жыл бұрын
Eula is arguably the fastest claymore user in the game right now, with Itto and Sayu close behind, pair her with C6 Yunjin and she’s gonna max that stack faster
@hirzan1874
@hirzan1874 2 жыл бұрын
itto has faster attack speed
@ancy1205
@ancy1205 2 жыл бұрын
@@hirzan1874 Only charge attack
@konp4ku
@konp4ku 3 жыл бұрын
It's just a Raiden showcase at the end LMAO
@Valentine63rt
@Valentine63rt 3 жыл бұрын
Abyss run conclusion: Raiden with cons is the best dps
@dwighttheislander7369
@dwighttheislander7369 3 жыл бұрын
The Disclaimers reminds me of medicine ads, since they also fast forward messages about consulting your doctor if sumpthoms persist
@marcoraffi935
@marcoraffi935 3 жыл бұрын
IMO your eula measurement methodology isn't fair. I mean her ult build up time should be also included, mby it's just me, but it feels cheasy when you use the time which no other dps can use to their benefits like for stacking eula's burst. For every other dps it is like a dead time with no dps, and you start timing later on, for eula is just a prep time XD BTW: I LOOOOOVE your videos so much !! Keep it up mate, I have been waiting for this video for so long. Also My itto is c3 tho, but on his next rerun I will be getting his C6
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