Dr Conrad Vine's Moment before the President || Jim Micheff Makes His Defense on Firing Ron Kelly

[@modestsimplicity5861]

The closing remarks of Jim Michef exposes exactly that he was not listening to all that was said in the 2 hour clip. There were those glimpses of arrogance in the whole period but he tried to avoid angering the people because he was aware that he was outnumbered and they would have torn him apart. The truth that he had come to tell tell the village church came at the end. This shows exactly how the conferences are being run world wide. They believes authority lies with them only and not the local church. Its pure popery. Thats why they did what they did without consulting anyone because thy feel Ps Ron Kelly and Dr Vine are making village church not to submit to their control. The real target here is Conrad Vine thats why that letter called him the agent of Satan. Ps Kelly is just caught up in the crossfire because he did not follow the orders he was given. Our leaders are drunk with the wine of the power of Babylon. There is far more to fear from within than without. May God deliver us.

[@susiegomintong753]

Amen.

[@selmacrump3427]

Amen‼️ Well said beloved‼️

[@theheraldreportministry]

@@modestsimplicity5861 indeed. This is the real challenge

[@DennisDakota-eq6pk]

Amen, Amen and Amen again. Our General Conference,no let me say the General Conference because I have severed any connection with GC, has become a mini Catholic system becoming more tyrannical each and every day. No wonder sister White saw in a vision the SDA morphomising into a Roman Catholic procession, this we are seeing now.

[@Crabtree1844]

Loving Father, Cleaver of truth: keep the fire that Thou has kindled in The Herald Report Ministry burning. Let it be the means to win millions of souls for Thy kingdom. Form an hedge of fire around it and may Thy holy angels keep watch and guard. Pour more of Thy Holy Spirit upon Thy manservant, is my prayer with thanksgiving. Amen

[@theheraldreportministry]

@@Crabtree1844 amen and Amen

[@selmacrump3427]

Amen‼️🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽

[@Crabtree1844]

@@selmacrump3427 ..hi sis. Do you recall the poem pastor H read; I think from fulcrum?

[@quawsi]

The good thing about this Controversy is that the conference leaders are bring exposed for who they truly are Wolves in sheep clothing.

[@auydithbraham-patterson2411]

Amen

[@bentelindstad5759]

@@auydithbraham-patterson2411 Amen, like as if we didn't know they are wolves after the C19 crisis, "mask up, take the jab, stay home, wave to your neighbors and keep distance , loose your work if not "

[@janiceyoung283]

I was at the same camp meeting that Conrad Vine spoke at and I was amazed to hear such controversy and totally taken out of context alsoJim Micheff and all involved will not back down and lose face its sad to see this shaking going on

[@theheraldreportministry]

@@janiceyoung283 very much, shaking is going own

[@alricklothian6452]

I love this church, I love its mission, I think these two men are among the best expositors of christianity and adventism. I think the General conference should apologise as well as the Michigan conference. I am also in favor of these men being general field secretaries of the General Conference speaking for adventism all over the world. Its been quite some time since we have men willing to speak for their faith as these me do. May the lord give guidance.

[@theheraldreportministry]

@@alricklothian6452 honestly my the Lord bless them

[@LisaBrown-nm8gv]

This Jim Micheff guy needs lots of prayers God bless his soul he loves the SDA church more than the truth and GOD! The SDA church will save no one. People please understand who and what the church really is. It’s not the GC.

[@hate.doublespeak991]

When they start saying.... you're the agent of satan..... then you must know, they are about to commit the sin against the Holy Spirit...... And so we fall.....

[@theheraldreportministry]

@@hate.doublespeak991 Indeed

[@mavismonrose7902]

Like I've said before, the Daniel Duo (pastors vine and Pastor Ron Kelly cannot remain under the organization of the Michigan conference if they have to preach the straight testimony. They should bow out and preach the everlasting gospel

[@theheraldreportministry]

@@mavismonrose7902 amen

[@mercyvlog6856]

God has given message according to the times and situation... straight testimony is one of the greatest ever lasting gospel, if nobody tells our fault how can we change? if we keep walking in darkness how can we enter into light?? staright testimony is one of the most important message this time...

[@bentelindstad5759]

Yes, Amen let God be in control and everybody get out of the state of Stockholm syndrome GC has created, "If you don't give us tithe you are doomed and cast out of the church in the face of the king Tedzler Wilson. "

[@jaimienommik1578]

Jim Micheff needs to stop using the name of God. We are in need for Martin Luther and John Wesley to stand to the bully.

[@JohnEricho-wj8zr]

SDA leaders in every conference and level hide behind process. That is the culture of the church. Ive been emplyee of the church. The blacklisting which has a cumulative effect over time will weigh on any future decision. Even if it was resolved amicably it will still affect the future decision. Thus leaders have a very important jurisdiction to excercise it prudently without allowing self percieved injury to affect their decisions, it must always be about the good of the organisation and the name and image of God. Its not easy but every decision must be thoroughly assessed with wisdom, understanding, empathy and sensitivity so that everyone involved will not be injured or cause fragmentation or division and harm to the body of Christ.

[@theheraldreportministry]

Indeed

[@Olympic_TryAthlete]

So if the church was to admit that they were wrong on the jab mandate vs religious objection, legally, what then in regards to those who lost their jobs and whatnot? Is there a denominational financial risk if they backpedal on the whole thing?

[@theheraldreportministry]

The fears of litigation

[@carmenbartow4875]

It is my understanding that they were "paid off" by the state. The church has a 501c3 tax statis that requires them to be subservient to the state. Unfortunate, but true. Ask about it or go to the internet.

[@emilymazengwe8450]

A passage of devotion in the book "Drawing Nigh To God" says it is a sin of pressumption to claim that God guided or influenced our actions! Just because pastor Micheff and company had prayed before firing pastor Kelly and banning pastor Vine is an assumption of God's actions at best!!

[@theheraldreportministry]

Very correct indeed. I honestly don't think it was God's leadership but He allowed it so that they could be exposed and repent

[@lindapepper8734]

We have no right to judge anyone. God is the judge of all.

[@theheraldreportministry]

Amen

[@Freshie13]

No, but we are called to be discerning. Discernment keeps us safe and stops us from falling for deceit.

[@LisaBrown-nm8gv]

This IS not of GOD!!!!

[@shadstla]

This church is the last day church no doubt!! Because character of forgiveness is shown and should be an example to all sda churches

[@maryluff5403]

I would like to thank Pastor Kelly, pastor Vine ,and all the Village Adventist church ,for tier stand against the heresy of the conference. I am 87 years old and unable to attend a Church .I love this message ,and here in front of all the world, this conference is making a mockery of it ,l pray I could do more to be of use to my beloved message, all can do is thankyou from tthe bottom of my heart . It isnt going to be very long now before the mark of the beast is implemented. I would like for you all to pray that I have the courage to stand by out beliefs and die iif I must for my savior.we all know now that our leaders will only be too willing to follow satans policies as they did in the covid pandemic, as it was called.where is our apologies fom these cowardly people. Thankyou God for your leading in all this .pleasw God always be with us Amen

[@theheraldreportministry]

May the Lord bless you indeed

[@normanramirez-rx7hy]

Please dont erase the comments, even when they don't go according to your thoughts.

[@theheraldreportministry]

I don't

[@carmenbartow4875]

I would NEVER work together with the GC or Michigan conference. They appear to be wolves in sheeps clothing. Micheff is more concerned about losing his authority and tithe. Vine is concerned for the hearts of man. My name is written in the Lambs book of life, not the GC book that will someday burn. I love the Lord, always will. I do NOT need the GC to govern me. This is the Holy Spirits job and Jesus. I left the church a few years back. Like anywhere, there are Gods true follower's and there are the ones making a lot of money in high places where they think they are more wise. The church is under the 501c3 tax exception. They are in bed with the state, so to speak. Why would i ever pay my tithe and support them. Fighting to keep control under insincere "caring" is a slap in my face. These are my views and what i have seen in my life as a SDA member for 70 years. No more!! Stay strong in the Lord. Focus on Him and He, alone, will see you through to His kingdom. I still believe in most SDA doctrines. We do NOT need to pay for the GC. So much has been comprised. Stay strong Kelly and Vine!! God has a better plan ahead!!

[@theheraldreportministry]

May the Lord bless you. I have understood you. We need to remain on the platform of truth and never to be moved

[@andeewaisome5799]

It seems as if he is not speaking of his own, he is being propelled to give utterance. Does not seem like normal speech.

[@carmenbartow4875]

Insincere

[@auydithbraham-patterson2411]

What he wanted to do was take these men’s credentials, but they couldn’t find an excuse disgraceful.

[@theheraldreportministry]

@@auydithbraham-patterson2411 this is how the devil works

[@tonysavage8364]

Who decreed there was to be no proper recoding? The world wide church members are watching and all we have is mobile phone coverage with poor audio - some words cannot be understood.

[@theheraldreportministry]

Indeed. They did not want to record the meeting

[@andeewaisome5799]

He is just apologising because he is caught.

[@theheraldreportministry]

Just Judas

[@andeewaisome5799]

This man is not led by the spirit of God. The executive prayed to bring confusion, choas. Note when Peter denied Christ, and was guilty,Jesus did not banish him away/ censure him . What Spirit is this in the conference?

[@theheraldreportministry]

@@andeewaisome5799 very interesting indeed

[@bentelindstad5759]

Ron Kelly should have stood up for Conrad Vine. So they have banned Conrad Vine, how are they going to react if Dr. Vine preaching in some church or even home church ? Torture and imprisonment? Conrad Vine having his Luther moment, and it's probably not the last time. Maybe he should not ask for any removal of the ban but turn his back on them and do what he knows best, preaching.

[@auydithbraham-patterson2411]

They cannot ban him from the kingdom. The Jews followed the apostle Paul and companions everywhere they went and created conflicts for them. This is how satanic works

[@theheraldreportministry]

We pray for God's wisdom

[@bentelindstad5759]

@@theheraldreportministry We should be thankful for God´s wisdom , we already have it, we know what is going on, how much more must be thrown in our faces before we act accordingly to what we clearly know.

[@andeewaisome5799]

No humility

[@andeewaisome5799]

It is about how the process of censureship happened. Th president use an autocratic leadership style

[@theheraldreportministry]

Indeed

[@auydithbraham-patterson2411]

My brother, Micheff spoke and said nothing. Disgraceful I believe it’s above this man. He is merely a messenger. to say the least.He tried to say it, he is the fall guy. My GOD within GOD’S free church There can be no transparency.Isn’t it time for our LORD to come.?

[@theheraldreportministry]

It is now time for the truth

[@loreenpile6730]

I wander which God lading him he says God lading him I know not the GOD OF HEVER may be the earthly God but not the God of heaven 🙏🏿 every evle doers have a end is just time

[@theheraldreportministry]

Indeed

[@paulahatfield6821]

Wow this pastor making things worse and worse.

[@auydithbraham-patterson2411]

There are others who think this of Dr Vine. GOD will show up. His servant VINE is no child of the devil and he has no right to call a child of GOD.who is still within probationary time a devil. But they called the LORD JESUS beelzebub as well.

[@theheraldreportministry]

Go's will take care

[@francoisduminy1863]

Why this man cannot talk ???

[@theheraldreportministry]

He is talking

[@billy4579]

Why this ptr mischief is dictatorial

[@theheraldreportministry]

Authority is the issue

[@paulasmith3238]

You can't go fort Worth until you repent and in everybody's eyes they've done nothing wrong. Only the other person has you know that all of heaven and all the angels on this Earth and all the demons are watching you guys. You need to turn to God this one you need to ask for forgiveness. We can't go forward. We're stuck cuz of our sinsfulness God is the only one that can help us

[@andeewaisome5799]

Some persons apologize when caught because of co nsequence to themselves, but have no true repentance. These men are not converted.

[@tennisvidzzz3941]

This man is very arrogant. Notice how he points at the audience when lecturing them. I cannot believe he has the position he has with that kind of arrogance.

[@theheraldreportministry]

Everything is visible indeed

[@JamelJoshua-k4p]

Pastor it is ok to celebrate Christmas as long we do it before jesus was born in this sinful world

[@jaimienommik1578]

@@JamelJoshua-k4p my brother it's not okay to celebrate Christmas because Christmas is pagan Catholic.

[@Crabtree1844]

The question you are asking the pastor can be found in your Bible if you care to search and know the truth for yourself. If the pastor responds, it will be an answer from Biblical which is available to you as well.

[@JamelJoshua-k4p]

@Crabtree1844 thanks you

[@Crabtree1844]

@@JamelJoshua-k4p ...you are welcome, Jamel. The Holy Spirit was sent to guide and lead you into all truth. Study your Bible prayerfully on your knees and light will come from above to help you. Amen