Dr David L Brown - Providential Preservation: The Doctrine That Virtually Disappeared

[@bryanthurmond3935]

Thank you for the WHOLE PRESENTATION, especially about Psalm 12:6-7!!!!!! Thank you for taking the time to explain the rules of grammar!!! MAKES EVERYTHING VRYSTAL CLEAR!!!!!!

[@dr.byronloyd4713]

Excellent teaching and researched information. Truth!

[@100davidmartinez]

Thank you brother Brown for such an excellent teaching, it is really filled with knowledge and enlightment. God bless you bretheren for posting this.

[@MarpleZoss]

Never heard the three legged stool (table) analogy before. Great teaching! 10 minute mark: "Without preservation of scripture you have a half-truth." Absolutely! I think part of the problem are the American generations that followed the traditionists ( WWII generation) no longer believe [for the most part] in absolute truth but a post modern idea of relative truth.

[@kathleenking47]

It could be, what happened In June 1963, by SCOTUS They removed prayer/Bible From public schools Prayer was non sectarian It's been there, since before 1787

[@FormerTrucker]

God preserved his Word and his Spirit was in the hearts of the translators of the KJV.

[@kathleenking47]

It could be, the biblical NUMERICS...making KJV the strongest It's NOT NUMEROLOGY

[@MarpleZoss]

Really enjoyed your article GOD’S WORD IS A SYMPHONY OF PRAISE By Patricia L. Williams on your King James Bible Research Council website!

[@PooleSilly]

I am grateful to say that I am a born again Christian and have been since I was 19.......yes indeed i enjoy listening to this dear man of God and I much pray God's peace and comfort on him and his family each and everyday and that God uses him and his ministry mightily to much glorify and lift high the king of kings and the lord of lords!!!!!! to God Be All The Glory!!!!! Great Things He Hath Done!!!!!! and all hail king Jesus!!!!! the king of kings and the lord of lords!!!!!! however folks these days are getting darker and Christ is coming soon and if you don’t know Christ as your savior then it burdens my soul to think that you are headed for a terrible place called Hell where the Bible says the fire is never quenched and the worm dies not! Folks you are not promised tomorrow! If you want to know how to be saved from this horrible reality then please by all means don’t hesitate to comment right back so I can lead you to the savior! 2 Corinthians 6:2 clearly states “now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation!” And Hebrews 3:15 clearly states, “Today if you hear his voice don’t harden your hearts! it is not me but the Holy Spirit that I pray reveals to you the truth of his precious gospel......John 3:16 says for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes on him will not perish but have everlasting life! V 17 says then V 18 says whoever believes on the son is not condemned but whoever does not believe on the son is condemned already because he has not believed on the son whom God has sent! Also Acts 16:30-31 what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house I am not threatening anyone but just warning them what will happen if they reject this precious gift of eternal life! Christ died a horrible criminals death! He was beaten brutally mocked spit upon and endured countless hours of torture pain for all of our sins! Ppl go to hell because they reject that pardon for their sins! And Jesus is saying to them in Matthew 25:41 depart from me you cursed into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels! Hell was only prepared for Satan and his angels! It is not God who threatens anyone it is the craziness of rejecting the free pardon of salvation! It’s like if you’re in court you’ve committed a crime say you murdered someone! Now if you say to that Judge hey I know I’ve done a terrible thing of murdering that person but I hear you’re a good judge and so I know you’ll be fair to me...... the judge is going to reply well yes you’re right about one thing I am a good judge and because I’m a good judge I’m going to see to it that you’re punished and that justice is served! Well then all of a sudden someone you don’t even know comes forward and says you know what I know he’s committed the crime he’s committed and he deserves to go to jail but I really don’t want to see him go to prison so I’ll just go to prison for him so he can go free! So if you accepted that offer you’d be free to leave the courtroom but if you didn’t well you’d be crazy and go to prison yourself! Well that’s exactly how it was 2,000 years ago! He is God in human flesh and he came to this earth lived a perfect sinless life and even though he knew that we had sinned and because of our sins deserved to die miserably but he said no I don’t want to see them suffer so I will go and take their punishment for them! Even though he did absolutely nothing wrong still he chose to take the punishment for our sins so we can be set free from the power bondages and consequences of our disobedience to God! Romans 5:8 says For God commends his love toward us that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us! 1 John 2:2 says he was made to be the propitiation for our sins! And not just for our sins but the sins of the whole world! 2 Corinthians 5:21 He who knew no sin became Sin for us that we would be made his righteousness! The truth is if you had to get to Heaven by your own effort then you cannot do it! Because Romans 3:10 says there is not one that does good! No Not One! Romans 3:23 says For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God! Romans 6:23 says For the wages of sin is death! But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord! But the good news is Romans 10:9 If we confess with our mouth and believes in our hearts that Christ died for our sins then was raised from the dead we will be saved! V 10 For it’s with the heart we believe and it’s with the mouth confession is made unto salvation! God gave us 10 commandments to follow and we’ve broken every one of them! And because God is a good God he cannot allow our disobedience to him to go unpunished! Well then like I just mentioned above his son Jesus stepped forward and said no I don’t want to see them punished so I will take their punishment for them! And also like I said he died a terrible substitute criminal’s death for us on a cross so now all we have to do is accept that payment for our sins and we can escape the terrible wrath of God that is to fall on them who do not accept this atonement that was sacrificed for our sins! Praise the lord Romans 10:13 says Whoever calls on the name of the lord shall be saved! And 1 Peter 1:4 you’re an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you! Christ clearly said in John 14:6 I am the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the father but through me! Acts 4:12 clearly states that there is no other name given unto Heaven or earth by which we must be saved as there is salvation in no other! Jesus clearly states that there is clearly only one way to Salvation and it’s him that’s it! There is no other way! God Bless everyone who reads!

[@DS-uo5ie]

Poolesilly,you left out 1 Cor. 15:1-4

[@PaulGruendlerBeau]

Folks who believe that only the "originals" are inspired don't have a leg to stand on!

[@kathleenking47]

The original 10 commandments were BROKEN

[@Mr-pn2eh]

And they are rhetarrded if they think that

[@wawabbit]

Excellent.

[@kjb1611tw]

Amen from Taiwan

[@nojustno1216]

The KJV is what I read daily, so don't think I'm knocking it. However, concerning Psalm 12:6 - 7.... The kjv translators themselves put in the margin this note for verse 7 referring to the word "them".... Heb. him, that is every one of them. Either way, God's word is preserved as he promised.

[@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124]

i LOVE all this stuff. Why do so many Baptists teach two priesthoods though? Didn't Jesus' sacrifice fulfill it all on the cross forever?

[@sacredcowtipper1378]

I'm loving this channel. Wish we had a church that valued God's Word like this near where we live. It's hard to find people that understand this issue and are not the crazy KJB-only crowd that thinks the KJB was inspired or corrected the Textus REceptus. I don't even call myself KJB anymore because of that. I am going to just call myself Textus Receptus only anymore and stick to the KJB and YLT. YLT is very hard to read though as it it by far the most word for word translation into english. There just needed to be more dynamic equivalent in it but it comes useful at times and explains some things at times in certain verses. God Bless!

[@me73941]

Very well said. I am also Majority Text/Textus Receptus only, not necessarily KJV only. There are many reasons for this, one because it neglects the Reformers who paved the way for the KJV, such was Tyndale. YLT is a very good translation. I very much enjoy it, but you're right, it's very literal. You might really appreciate Webster's Bible. It's especially good for children, too.

[@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124]

@@me73941 Is Webster's bible Textus Receptus? I know he was a good man. Here is a reason why I am not 100% KJB-only although I believe it to be probably the most perfectly translated Bible of all of the Textus Receptus bibles. I would say 99.9% good. Let's take the word WORLD in Matthew 24. There are three different greek words in the TR. They translated all of them "world" and maybe back in 1611 that was the only way they could translate it into English so I don't want to see they didn't use the best word that they could have at that time. It helps the dispensationalist interpret God's Word incorrectly if they only read that chapter in English and never went to the Greek for themselves. Those words are kosmos, oikemune, and aeon. They all have different meanings. Everyone would be New Covenant Theology like the first 1,800 years of the church was if they realized this and not dispensational as most of America is today. When something like that is not studied out people begin to put their presuppositions into the word of God that are not there and add to God's word what it does say to make passages fit what they want to believe instead of letting God's Word clearly teach what it says. Example: Did Caesar Augustus tax the WHOLE world? No. He taxed the oikemune (Roman Empire) but KJB has world. Dispensationalists would agree with you on that verse but then turn around and go to Matthew 24 and twist oikemune to mean something else to fit pre-trib rapture teaching. They try to make oikemune kosmos or their doctrine has some serious problems. They will ignore Jesus saying THIS generation over and over in both Matthew 23 and 24 and add the words "...and THIS generation I am speaking about" to fit their doctrine. Why? Well, it is a doctrine I think all of us want to believe number one but I think some of it is most pastors don't even study like they should or think if they have a KJB, they don't need to ever look at the greek or hebrew definitions. Also, I think the NKJB is a better Bible when it comes to the stuff on hell. Hades, Sheol, Tartarus and gehenna are not the same thing. How can the wicked and hell be dumped into hell according to Psalms. The wicked and Sheol are dumped into the lake of fire (gehenna). Some things are just confusing to the one that really doesn't study things out much. YLT is very hard to read but that is why it is the best translation word for word if you know Greek good. I just use it as a tool because I am no expert on Greek. Most are not. Most know enough to be dangerous. KJB is my main go to but I learned from day one 38 years ago when I came to Christ to use study tools too and you have to go to the original languages also. God Bless.

[@me73941]

@@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124 I would agree with pretty much everything you said. You made some very good points, especially with how the KJV translates "world" and "hell". And you are correct, in 1611 the word "world" referred to the universe in general. However, today that is not the common understanding. They also translated the Greek word ekklesia as "church" instead of "congregation". The truth is that the King James Bible is not so much a proper Protestant bible so much as it was the official bible as the Church of England, and for anyone to pretend like there were not some political motives behind it and some specific theology which colors the translation is just complete dishonesty. Yes, Webster's Bible is Textus Receptus. It is the King James Bible, but as an educator, he wanted to update certain outdated and unused words, and change some offensive words such as "whore". Overall, I find it to be a wonderful translation, and as I said above, it's especially good for children. Not surprisingly, the hardcore KJVO crowd does not like the Webster Bible, but the first resource they will direct you to to understand the KJV is his dictionary. Go figure.

[@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124]

@@me73941 I just downloaded Webster's on my E-Sword. I will check it out. It is free. Yeah, there is some dishonesty with many in the KJB-only circles and I had to come out of it when I saw it. Pre-trib rapture teachers are much worse. Dr. Thomas Ice is trying to change the Greek word apostasia now to be a pre-trib rapture word. There is a lot of dishonesty in the body of Christ. I call Tommy Dr. Thomas Icegesis now. I can't help it. LOL. I say I am KJB-mostly or Textus receptus-only now to properly show my position on the matter. Your last statement is funny and true. I'm glad you didn't run to the other Bibles that have serious error because of the hardcore KJB-only crowd. YOur probalby aware of the Sinaiticus being an obvious forgery. Some people do that. Most of the hardcore KJB-only crowd don't know how to properly interpret God's Word. They think just because they have a near perfect Bible that that somehow makes all their theology right in every area. Many of the cults including freemasonry in America use the KJB so that doesn't fly with a 38 year Bible veteran like me. Many of them called me Satan, demon, reprobate, unsaved, not having the Holy Spirit, and so on when I challenged one very popular KJB-only teacher to a debate and all his 20,000+ subscribers at that time on the subject of dispensationalism. They don't know any of the history and how demonic the teaching really is. I bet most of these good men on this channel know less than 2% to 5% of the history of futurism, dispensationalism and pre-trib nor how much bad fruit it already has such as 100 cults evolving from it just to name one. I know most dont' know the hsitory because I confronted many pastors who teach it online and they seem oblivious to the things I give them. But they keep teaching it and could care less to fact-check me which I totally encourage everyone to do. They will get down on the Roman Catholic church but don't even know that three Jesuits started the doctrine of futurism that dispyism came out of. Ribera, Lacunza and Bellermine who almost became Pope started that doctrine but I am a demon. I believe the Catholic church started the doctrine as part of their Counter Reformation Movement to get the Protestants to quit saying the office of the papacy was the antichrist. Bellermine and Ribera came out in the 1500's when the reformation was hot and heavy. The KJB does not teach that doctrine. I and others can refute every point they make in that teaching. Like you said, there is a lot of dishonesty out there, more with some than others. Until many of the Baptists stops teaching their heresies, they shouldn't push the KJB on anyone. We are NOT going back to animal sacrifices---ever. The blood of Jesus is forever efficacious. MY KJB does not teach dispyism or pre-trib in the least bit. They are doing eisegesis of the scriptures to come to that belief system. Here is one in dispyism problem - going back to animal sacrifices in the millennium which is contrary to the entire gospel and Book of Hebrews, they shouldn't push the KJB translation so much. Many people who know the teaching is bogus don't even read a Textus Receptus Bible. There are only two places they can get that teaching from and both are easily explained. Ezekiel's temple was not way in the future or the original people that God told to show THIS people the vision makes that meaningless. And Daniel's 9 temple was the one still standing- herod's temple which was supposed to be the Ezekiel temple but many of the Jews stayed in Babylon so they ended up with a temple nowhere near what God wanted for them and it even took 46 years for that one to get built due to lack of manpower. Matthew 22:7 says God the Father will send His armies (used Titus and the Romans) to burn their city down. Almost everyone taught this until 1825 to 1830. I'm rambling now. LOL. MY brother is very suicidal and kept me up literally all night. Pray for him. His name is Guy. He messed his life up and has many regrets (worldly sorrow, not godly sorrow). He is not being honest on several things and has been mentally suffering for about 5 years now because he will not take my biblical counsel and went to the psychologist and psychiatrist instead. Anyhow, calling people names that have way better theology than you isn't going to get most of them to want to read your Bible version if that is what it makes a person have bad character. I can tell many of their Bible College students merely parrot what they learned in school without doing their own studies. If you don't, you can't get in a church to minister. I work a job and minister at my expense for decades now so that I don't have to compromise doctrine or be dishonest just to have a paying position in a church so I can fully focus on the Lord. It's sad but that is what thousands of us had to do for decades. They wonder why the church is messed up. I'm ramblinggggggggggggg again. LOL. Anyhow, it is good to see that others out there see these things. I thought I was the only one that didn't run to the ESV because of the hardcore KJB-only crowd. I'm so glad you were able to eat the meat and spit out the bones. Nice to meet you brother/sister so and so. Hope to hear from you more often.. Bob

[@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124]

@@me73941 oh yeah. your right---ekklesia would have been better translated assembly or congregation instead of church. There is only ONE people of God. Dispies replaced the glorious bride of Christ with a chunk of land that Jesus is going to incinerate at some point. I guess Ruth and Rahab were born Jews and the coming out of Egypt a mixed people somehow didn't include Gentile Egyptians. The church is messed up. Translating it church gave dispies an excuse to make the "the church age". Yet another blow to dispensationalism. I like you. It's hard to find seasoned people that are not off into weird stuff. You don't by any chance know how to do power point? I'm looking for someone to help me put more videos out as I am so busy so I can be more productive. I stumped everyone on my last video. I had one guy try to turn the last week of Daniel's 490 year prophecy into 7 days instead of years to try to make what he was teaching sound true. Yeah, they are years until the last week, then they magically become days. He couldn't refute what I taught so he came up with some new-fangled weird thing I never heard before to justify his teaching. Check it out if you want. It is an eye-opener and destroys a lot of really bad theology in 11 minutes. I have two more videos I want to do as a sequel to that one. I plan on doing a "Moving the Goalposts back yet again" video as Jesus has to come back by the end of this year if pre-trib teaching were true according to their own words. They ate their words in 1981 when it didn't happen and will do so again in 2021 when it doesn't happen again even after adding an extra 40 years to a Biblical generation. They will add yet another 40 years to their doctrine after this year passes and bring that number up to 120 year generation. I already know which scripture they are going to try to use out of context to justify it because I was taught it in 1985. Where is the honesty with these people? I want to do one on the lie that God was going to bring Israel back into the land in UNBELIEF. This is totally the opposite of what scripture actually teaches. That is nowhere in the Bible but they all say it. I would say they have about two dozen of these things they say that are nowhere in scripture or they use passages that were already historically fulfilled and try to put them in the future. Rambling again...... I need some sleep. If you do powerpoint and would like to do one project let me know. I will leave you alone now. I know God has someone out there to help with this. Not sure if it is you or someone else.

[@claythomas7982]

There are no originals, the KJV is based on the Textus Receptus, or Recieved Text.

[@basimccausland9041]

Vital

[@InfinitelyManic]

Why is the Comma of 1 John 5:7,8 deemed preserved when it lacks Greek mss witnesses for over 1300 years; yet, Acts 15:34b "and Judas alone departed to Jerusalem" has two (2) 5th century Greek mss witnesses, yet is not in the KJV? What exactly does KJVO "preservation" mean?

[@basimccausland9041]

No punctuation marks in Greek

[@InfinitelyManic]

@@basimccausland9041 Why is punctuation important? That's not part of the conversation.

[@basimccausland9041]

@@InfinitelyManic you talked about a comma

[@InfinitelyManic]

@@basimccausland9041 The Comma or Comma Johanneum refers to the longer reading of 1 John 5:7-8 [in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.] 8[And there are three that beare witnesse in earth], not a punctuation mark (,)

[@basimccausland9041]

@@InfinitelyManic fine. That goes on due to those desiring to justify the 'oldest and best' as true, which in reality they are neither the oldest nor the best, but fakes

[@InfinitelyManic]

Hebrew 10:23 used "faith" instead of "hope" in the 1611 KJV. How do you reconcile the notion that the 1611 KJV is a pure translation with this error, or does the KJV actually correct the Koine Greek?

[@John3.36]

"Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)" - Hebrews 10:23 KJV "Let vs hold fast the profession of our faith without wauering (for he is faithfull that promised)" - Hebrews 10:23 KJV 1611 Me thinks you got some splainin' to do!

[@InfinitelyManic]

@@John3.36 It should say, the profession of our "hope"

[@provokingthought9964]

@@John3.36 elpis equal hope. pistis equals faith. The text in greek is elpis, thus should read hope. All English translations prior to 1611 had hope in the cited passage not faith. The fellow is wanting to know why the kjv translators left the Greek when it followed it every other time elpis us used in scripture and how that departure doesn't contradict innerancy

[@John3.36]

@@provokingthought9964 It likely has to do with the critical text greek being different from the TR greek from which the KJV was translated.

[@provokingthought9964]

@@John3.36 double check me but actually I think all the various editions of the TR except Scriveners has elpis. But it's been a day or ten since I looked it up. Edit: Scriveners says elpis too. And like I said, all previous English translations to 1611 had hope not faith, demonstrating the TR had elpis even if you are like me and a bumbler in greek.

[@hrvatska8786]

But which edition of the Textus Receptus is the inspired and preserved word of God? Is it the one of Erasmus, Stephanus or Beza? Where was it before the 1500s?

[@basimccausland9041]

They are three of the same line since the first century

[@yoshkebenstadapandora1181]

I agree on KJV but I completely disagree on the outrageous lies of Dispensational Premillennialism.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

Me too

[@nicobrits5111]

The opening says to us: "Prayer is not important". Fidgeting with his stuff and arranging things while praying. Not very respectful to God.

[@recoveringknowitall1534]

Nit picky adhom is all you got? Lol. Keep your silence unless you have a comment or challenge on what he's actually saying.