Dr. Disrespect Missed the Point of Elden Ring

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@spazatk5497
@spazatk5497 4 ай бұрын
He missed the point of the age of consent too 🫥
@marceelino
@marceelino Ай бұрын
Meh
@GoatingVirtual
@GoatingVirtual 3 ай бұрын
This didn't age well
@Golem-Witch-Wizard-Army
@Golem-Witch-Wizard-Army 2 ай бұрын
Most People he loves didn’t Really age that much
@marceelino
@marceelino Ай бұрын
Well, only if you believe crap from random people on the Internet
@Nonplayable-000
@Nonplayable-000 18 күн бұрын
​@@marceelino But He admitted it himsel$ lmfao
@lucky-lu6tc
@lucky-lu6tc 4 ай бұрын
You cant complete the "Souls Journey" if you are still on that "married father is texting minors inappropiately and trys to meet up with them - journey" lol
@marceelino
@marceelino Ай бұрын
Lol😂
@GreenBugGaming
@GreenBugGaming 5 ай бұрын
The single worst part about the Elden Ring community is people complaining about right and wrong ways to play the game. There is no POINT to Elden Ring, you are free to use any of the mechanics in the game. The git gud meme is for Darksouls / Sekiro, Miyazaki even expressed that Elden Ring was essentially meant to be played how you want. THAT is the entire point.
@blade-icewood
@blade-icewood 5 ай бұрын
Theres no right way to play the game, but if you are going to complain about late-game being too easy, people will probably point out if you are spamming Mimic tear and Blasphemous blade
@mochigase
@mochigase 5 ай бұрын
@@blade-icewood Its pretty obvious he is just trolling when he is saying its too easy though? He says it with this big smile on his face to mock the people that said he couldnt beat the game.
@GreenBugGaming
@GreenBugGaming 5 ай бұрын
@@blade-icewood I mean he's just playing out his character. He says one shot after dying to a boss dozens of times. He also complains about cod all day but still ends up playing it.
@Виктор-ч7х1щ
@Виктор-ч7х1щ 5 ай бұрын
Nah.
@blade-icewood
@blade-icewood 5 ай бұрын
@@GreenBugGaming Yea I get Doc just cosplays as a 40-yo zoomer, but he's being compared to Kai/NickMercs, who made the choice to put themselves through it without the help. He wanted the views without the effort, which is fair, but opens you up to criticism
@connorhale341
@connorhale341 5 ай бұрын
Respectfully disagree here. I personally loved my colossal weapon run with zero magic or spirits, but I support everyone playing games how they want. If you pay the price for entry, do what you want with it.
@Command_B
@Command_B 5 ай бұрын
I think this is a valid perspective, and it is certainly one I have felt at times. I get that this sort of thinking is a slippery slope, and there are those out there that will say you didn't "really play the game" if you didn't beat it soul level 1 frying pan only. That said, I think Doc complaining about the late game being too easy shows he was open to more difficulty. I also think given the way he grinds competitive games I think he cheated himself out of a more satisfying experience at the end of the day. But that's just me, I appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts :)
@Froomies93
@Froomies93 5 ай бұрын
@@Command_B Just as you said yourself, games are being made with easier difficulty in mind to open it up to people who might not normally try a certain genre. Fromsoftware achieves this not with a sliding scale of easy/medium/hard but with in game items; weapons, consumables, thrown, etc. The whole game can be made easy or hard. However one self plays the game is always the right way for that person. another does not get to decide that for another individual. My take is that Doc is not into this genre and gave it a shot. Was not going to grind it out as he does not enjoy it so made it easy to progress and enjoy. But he still does not like the overall game so he never finished. Not saying I am right either. I just take big issue with others telling people well you would have liked it if you did this, this, and this. Not everyone likes everything, its normally that simple.
@eggs904
@eggs904 5 ай бұрын
@@Froomies93 just annoyed me when kept saying things like the bosses were easy, like no shit you're not actually fighting the bosses lol
@a.garcha199
@a.garcha199 5 ай бұрын
​@@Froomies93 This kind of take is so regressive, if there was theoretically an item that insta killed a boss for you, would the argument "It's just part of the game you can do what you want" still be valid? Doc clearly liked elden ring the first time, and then goes to calling the game too easy and so on despite cheesing it. The problem isn't that these items exist, it's that the people using them don't admit they are essentially opting out of trying, and they hide behind these lame "well it's in the game," excuses.
@TheAnomaly01010
@TheAnomaly01010 5 ай бұрын
@@a.garcha199lol that was a good take on it. Bet he would be using that item haha insta kill for 15 seconds
@John_Souls
@John_Souls 5 ай бұрын
The point is to play in a way you had fun.
@slothdude2365
@slothdude2365 5 ай бұрын
This right here, is how you play games
@SuperBlitzKing
@SuperBlitzKing 5 ай бұрын
Didn’t look like doc was having fun towards the end. Radahn gear, op sword and mimic tear. It’s gonna feel old quick. That’s why I love trying out builds.
@John_Souls
@John_Souls 5 ай бұрын
@@SuperBlitzKing Obviously everyone gonna get tilted in FS games, but saying others how they suppose to play and that they way is "wrong" is beyond cringe, and such entitled behavior should not be normalized and accepted.
@SuperBlitzKing
@SuperBlitzKing 5 ай бұрын
@@John_Souls are you ok? All I said was his build is safe and boring. If he likes playing safe builds cool. Did you see a happy guy? I didn’t
@John_Souls
@John_Souls 5 ай бұрын
@@SuperBlitzKing I don't understand why you getting mad at. Everyone gonna get tilted from time to time. You siting with smile on you're face all the time? Happens. You should play HOW you like not HOW someone else want. That's all. Chill.
@Labyethan
@Labyethan 3 ай бұрын
Top Ten Openings Which Haven't Aged Well x.x
@quiksol
@quiksol 5 ай бұрын
"You have to play my way, you're doing it wrong"
@august591
@august591 5 ай бұрын
You wasted $60 on a game for npc’s to beat it for u, you are definitely playing in the wrong way 🤦‍♂️
@haunbeuii1635
@haunbeuii1635 4 ай бұрын
​@@august591summons aren't as good as you people make them seem
@shivasanjeevmana
@shivasanjeevmana 4 ай бұрын
@@august591 The director literally said he designed the game to give players multiple options to clear the game. But of course, he is wrong and you are right.
@patricknorris9334
@patricknorris9334 4 ай бұрын
​@@haunbeuii1635Not summons in general. The video was referencing the one who is you but better and AI😑. Specifically, the exact cheese strat and weapon to spam the hardest (mechanically speaking) boss in the game.
@divine0enigma
@divine0enigma 4 ай бұрын
"NuUuUuU uR noT suPpOsed To UsE sPiriT suMmOnS Ur nOt pLaYiNg tHe GaMe RitE" *ding ding ding*
@MullilluM
@MullilluM 5 ай бұрын
Im sure Miyazaki is fuming that someone who bought his game is playing it in a way he intended.
@thanks86
@thanks86 5 ай бұрын
Please, stop fooling yourself because you aren't fooling anybody. I love the Doc, but he literally facetanked, learned 0 mechanics and bruteforced every boss until he finished. I'm glad he enjoyed ER, as it is a masterpiece after all... but he would've enjoyed it 10 times better if he had actually, you know, tried learning the mechanics of every boss instead of Mimic Tear facetank bruteforcing everything and then claiming was "too easy". He's a streamer so he isn't going to tell you "well that was kind of... I just pressed two keys until the boss died". Even Kai who was a complete noob did it without touching Mimic Tear. He simply learned every fight. There was literally 0 learning in Doc's playthrough. The only thing he learned was that one of most broken swords that even without summons would have trivialized 90% of the game combined with a MT means you can faceroll the entire content without even rolling. It's tragic. Nobody buys this "the way the dev intended" or "using what the game gives you" arguement. If you use Mimic Tear or a summon, the boss literally ignores you when you have one summon out. Basically, the boss doesn't even fight YOU. It's cheap, it's too easy and it's literally making you miss out on the BEST part of FromSoft games, which is AMAZING and CAREFULLY CRAFTED BOSS FIGHTS. So please, stop fooling yourself because calling it what it is doesn't mean it's gatekeeping. Everyone can play the way they want, but imagine playing Sekiro + a summon. Sure as shit wouldn't be the same game if every boss encounter would the boss attacking your summon while you backstab it to death. Imagine literally cheating yourself out of the best part of Sekiro. That's EXACTLY that summon users do in ER. You can claim you're having fun, sure, but in reality, you're barely playing the same game and your experience and mine were completely different. If tomorrow FIFA adds a mode that lets you play 13 vs 11 to make it easier and you "beat" the game, are you also going to say you beat the game "the way the devs intended"? Or are you going to realize they added that shit in for lazy people who aren't willing to play the game the way ITS ACTUALLY INTENDED? Ask yourself why every boss has a specific pattern that can be dodged, learned, abused and exploited. It sure as shit isn't so you could completely ignore all of it. Use your brain for 2 seconds and stop doing mental gymnastics.
@jmz6518
@jmz6518 5 ай бұрын
@@thanks86 very passionate rant here jesus if you care that much go edit miyazakis game and update it remove mimics and summons all together so you can get off to the casuals no longer having crutches lmfao
@august591
@august591 5 ай бұрын
@@jmz6518 if your going to use magic and summons just don’t bother wasting your $60, there’s a right way to play this game and it’s not with boring overpowered builds, your better off playing a different game
@facetankhank
@facetankhank 5 ай бұрын
​@@thanks86 Elitist nonsense. Doc played ER, loved it. Made it a show to watch for our entertainment. Who cares if he "brute forced" his way through it. I did. Loved it regardless. In fact, loved it for it. He isn't playing YOUR game, he's playing his.
@thepainphantom
@thepainphantom 4 ай бұрын
@@facetankhank I agree with you bro. Mind your own goddamn business.
@Soupreme2
@Soupreme2 5 ай бұрын
Its the year of our lord 2024 and we're still talking about dark souls difficulty
@costas4058
@costas4058 4 ай бұрын
check ur tampon man its over flowing
@flavionichele7214
@flavionichele7214 5 ай бұрын
So if you don’t beat it without armor, basic fire spell and on a dance dance revolution pad with one leg then you didn’t actually beat it.
@keener9563
@keener9563 4 ай бұрын
Now you are deliberately misunderstanding his point and just sound bitter
@wolf-tx6wm
@wolf-tx6wm 4 ай бұрын
No he's not people like this just want to make others feel bad for not beating the exact way they did the game devs put these things in the game for a reason
@keener9563
@keener9563 4 ай бұрын
@@wolf-tx6wm If you honestly believe that is what he meant by all that I'm sorry, but you aren't very smart. It's the most basic and shallow take you can make.
@wolf-tx6wm
@wolf-tx6wm 4 ай бұрын
I doubt this dude's views changed in the 2 days this video was up and just like I said I'll say it again people like you are the problem with these games and if you can't understand what he said you might be the slow one 😮
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 4 ай бұрын
See that argument is stupid.
@MotherRat-ii6ji
@MotherRat-ii6ji 4 ай бұрын
I used the Mimic and cheesey weapons etc. for my first run. But I had so much fun that I am going to go back through for a fresh run on a new character without the Mimic and learn the bosses and just explore.
@StaringFrog
@StaringFrog 5 ай бұрын
Nicks play through was my favorite to watch, simply because he didn’t listen to chat for the whole game, until Melenia. He had used summons and his mimic throughout much of the game, but once at Melenia he was experienced enough to know she’s worth solo’ing without mimic or summons, and even did it bare with no armor, then finished the game the same way. Genuinely satisfying w’s all around, he’s the streamer that true gamers deserve even tho many gamers are better, he just brings the entertainment on top of it. It was honestly the perfect balance of playing the game the way you feel it should be played to then learning you can do it on your own, almost like an insanely valuable life lesson that was taught through theatrics.
@facetankhank
@facetankhank 5 ай бұрын
Doc isnt the chosen one. He isnt supposed to be better than anyone else. He plays the way he wants to, always has, always will. Looks like you missed the point.
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 4 ай бұрын
My nucka... the two time? Call yourself the 2 time but couldn't get good?
@bryanJr8
@bryanJr8 4 ай бұрын
nope, he played on ez mode.
@otherwiize2401
@otherwiize2401 5 ай бұрын
You made a video essay on how someone plays a video game differently than you
@CASTdissocation
@CASTdissocation 5 ай бұрын
It’s valid if you know what he’s talking about, to you all you hear is trash talking because you most certainly used mimic tear. You robbed yourself of the true experience you played the game in easy mode and that’s sad
@august591
@august591 5 ай бұрын
What he is saying is true, souls, games represent the challenges, you face in life, u can either conquer those challenges the right and difficult way, or take a short cut and learn nothing
@muppet4227
@muppet4227 5 ай бұрын
@@CASTdissocationbro touch grass
@anonisnoone6125
@anonisnoone6125 4 ай бұрын
@@CASTdissocation We got a hardcore souls dickrider here. Who gives af? Dying from trying to learn boss moves isn't the only enjoyment that ER gives.
@keener9563
@keener9563 4 ай бұрын
Did you even listen to what he said? If that is all you took from it I’d say you are pretty shallow.
@AlmightyJoats
@AlmightyJoats 5 ай бұрын
This doesn't sound like the problem is Dr Disrespect not enjoying the game as it was intended. It sounds like the problem is him not enjoying the game the way YOU intend it. Not everyone is looking for the same experience when playing a game. I, for one, would rather play a game that allows me to adapt on the spot and overcome a situation in real time using the skills and abilities I have learned throughout my playthrough, rather than a game that expects me to die so many times against the same enemies that I have their patterns etched into my memories to the point where losing is almost impossible. The latter is, *to me*, unappealing and a massive waste of my time. This is why I could never bring myself to finish a souls game, but am still considering giving Elden Ring a shot in the future. Elden Ring gives you much greater playstyle and difficulty flexibility than other souls games, and that is something I absolutely appreciate and that has brought so many new players to the game that would otherwise it not touch it with a ten foot pole, just like they wouldn't touch the other Souls games. Not everyone enjoys the same experiences, not everyone is looking for the same things in video games. Some enjoy punishment, others enjoy a power trip, some others enjoy a challenge of varying degrees of difficulty. If you want your game to be popular and played by as many people as possible, you need to cater to as many of these individuals as possible. That's what FromSoft did (knowingly or unknowingly) and I genuinely believe that's one of the main reasons why Elden Ring is as popular as it is. Let different people enjoy games in different ways.
@ramen3643
@ramen3643 5 ай бұрын
did you miss the part where even he himself thought something was off and that he wasn't enjoying it as much anymore towards the late game?
@eggs904
@eggs904 5 ай бұрын
sure but the little bit I watched of Doc's playthrough he kept bragging and saying the bosses were easy, it could've been for entertainment but you're playing a game on easy mode at least acknowledge it. Elden ring was my first souls game, my first playthrough I used duel katanas, and pre nerf +10mimic, I knew I was using op builds and making it easier for myself, Lately I've been playing again and I've been beating bosses how they are "intended" learning and beating a boss is such a great feeling that we want other players to feel too.
@AlmightyJoats
@AlmightyJoats 5 ай бұрын
@@ramen3643 Chances are I did, I don't watch Dr Disrespect (or any streamers, for that matter) and I watched this video while I was still groggy after waking up :p So maybe I missed some parts, but the general message of the video which is that there certain way of enjoying a game is just something I wholeheartedly disagree with and I just felt compelled so spill my guts here. You should play the game however way makes it the most fun for you, that's what I believe in. The whole point of a game is to have fun, after all. From what you're saying sounds like Dr Disrespect chose the easy way out and made the game too easy for himself. Needs to play differently then. But for somebody else out there, power tripping on elden ring might be just the thing they need after a long day of hard work and facing other challenging obstacles life throws your way
@ogclancy
@ogclancy 2 ай бұрын
video aged like milk
@Jim2point0
@Jim2point0 3 ай бұрын
When you're about to subscribe to a channel and then you find out the guy watches DrDisrespect in Nickmercs on the regular
@OtokoEditz
@OtokoEditz 5 ай бұрын
Miyazaki made the radhan boss fight all about using summons it’s like he’s screaming in are faces telling us using summons are ok and play the game how you want to play it.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
True
@shevankaseneviratne1724
@shevankaseneviratne1724 4 ай бұрын
that boss is designed for summons tho with wide aoe gravity magic and massive hitboxes. U cant say that for everyone else.
@morbincentral3607
@morbincentral3607 4 ай бұрын
While I agree that it did make his playthrough less exciting, there’s nothing wrong with playing that way. Play however you want yk
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying
@tiwaz4598
@tiwaz4598 4 ай бұрын
That is exactly what the maker of this video says.
@longinus3890
@longinus3890 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, who cares.
@TheGangoreEpic
@TheGangoreEpic 3 ай бұрын
True
@BOOGiNS
@BOOGiNS 4 ай бұрын
Feomsoft needs to design a part of the game so that when you beat the game it takes you through a cinematic montage of your journey that is auto created by the game so you can recap your journey. Def would up the sentimental value of the game.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
Destiny 2 did something like this, and I love it
@ipat1010
@ipat1010 4 ай бұрын
>forms a narrative around Dr. Disrespect always being instantly good at any game he plays >Dr. Disrespect gravitates towards using a good build, proving his skill and talent at finding the top tier of any game's meta "GRRR HES NOT GOOD AT THE GAME" >Dr. Disrespect found to disrespect the age of consent a week after video upload
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 3 ай бұрын
If you follow the meta your talent is at matching the meta, not at proving superior skill. The biggest proof of skill is sandbagging yourself and rely on mechanical skill.
@anonisnoone6125
@anonisnoone6125 4 ай бұрын
Bro is getting cooked in these comments.
@Hepheat75
@Hepheat75 4 ай бұрын
In the words of a small KZbinr named Jacksepticeye, "Just play how you want. Have fun with it."
@bladge8456
@bladge8456 5 ай бұрын
"Low effort, low skill" These are the worst takes of the Elden Ring community. The point of games is to enjoy them and to play them how YOU, the person who's playing them, want to play them. Elden Ring is a blank canvas for people, play the game how you want.. not how "gate holders" say you should. The game developers left the decision on how to play this game in your hands, and your hands alone. Doc said this was one of his top games of all times, he clearly loved it. That is the main goal in the end isn't it? To have fun playing a video game?
@ZEFFYRooo
@ZEFFYRooo 5 ай бұрын
I think most people just get annoyed when people call the game easy when they use these powerful items and skip mechanics. "Wait... it took you 20 tries to kill this boss? Lol he was easy for me." "What did I use to defeat the boss? Blasphemous Blade and Mimic Tear, why do you ask?" These remarks and similar remarks frustrate the community unfortunately.
@Виктор-ч7х1щ
@Виктор-ч7х1щ 5 ай бұрын
typical cope. if you think spamming 1 button is max enjoyment someone can get out of a game... bruh looks like vid just hit too close home
@bladge8456
@bladge8456 5 ай бұрын
@@Виктор-ч7х1щ actually, get out of my game. That's the point. You play your game, I can enjoy mine.
@dean7811
@dean7811 5 ай бұрын
@@Виктор-ч7х1щ"typical cope" About a solo player fantasy video game? What have you been smoking hahaha
@august591
@august591 5 ай бұрын
@@bladge8456 u wasted $60 just to spam one button and have NPC’s beat the game for u, this game is not for u
@pitzo5555
@pitzo5555 4 ай бұрын
well this didnt age well
@enman009
@enman009 5 ай бұрын
Adding to the discussion: people forget that all Souls games, and even Sekiro to an extent, have broken weapons and items. Dark Souls 1 had the red tearstone ring and the Giant Dad meme build to completely destroy everything. Pyro, in particular, has always been the "break game mode" of the series, with magic a potential 2nd option. I think that ER just trust the player too much like an immersive sim would do. Did you struggle a lot or had an easy ride? Don't care, you just finished and that's what matters, according to the game. The thing is that is up to you whether or not you want to put up with the difficulty and savour the depth of the combat system, which sadly Dr seemed to be missing. But that's on him if he wants to learn or not.
@Stan3I3
@Stan3I3 4 ай бұрын
Brother he completed 90% of the game without even knowing about the mimic tear. Your hit piece is a miss
@TheHardAlwaysBeta
@TheHardAlwaysBeta 5 ай бұрын
Miss the point by using the tools the game provide you with?
@Виктор-ч7х1щ
@Виктор-ч7х1щ 5 ай бұрын
by being a casual 💀💀. I mean, cheat engine is also a tool that works because of the code of the game. Glitches are also in the game
@TheHardAlwaysBeta
@TheHardAlwaysBeta 5 ай бұрын
@@Виктор-ч7х1щ Since when playing a game casually is a bad thing? Not everyone has to go the hardcore route, even the creator sayed that they put these things in the game so player can have an easier time dealing with the difficulty.
@CASTdissocation
@CASTdissocation 5 ай бұрын
The tools in question are tools meant for casuals, miyazaki put them in the game for casuals like you to not get pissed off and cry that it’s a “bad game” like they did in ds3
@thanks86
@thanks86 5 ай бұрын
Lmao. So many people lying to themselves.
@anukthotawatta982
@anukthotawatta982 5 ай бұрын
2 options: 1. use op items and just spam your way to the end credits. 2. discipline yourself to not use those items and gain the satisfaction of mastery of the combat system. pick one
@irpanfauzi1160
@irpanfauzi1160 4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Me Summon 3 NPC at Dark Souls 2 and always Summon NPC at First Play Through of Souls Game
@bladej7688
@bladej7688 5 ай бұрын
Imagine you have never played a From Software game before. That is who the summons are for. If they play the game and enjoy it, what does it matter how they play it?
@august591
@august591 5 ай бұрын
Elden ring was my first souls game ever and first time I saw the ability to use a summon I thought it was the most stupid thing ever, like why would I pay $60 for a game just for the NPC to beat it for me 🤦‍♂️
@bladej7688
@bladej7688 5 ай бұрын
@@august591 no you didn't.
@santiago.v1743
@santiago.v1743 4 ай бұрын
@@august591but you out there using NPC armor and using NPC to level up your weapons, the hypocrisy (That comment is probably fake ain’t no way)
@august591
@august591 4 ай бұрын
@@santiago.v1743 why would it be fake? Why would I want someone else to help me beat the boss. When I payed to beat them myself lol, are u stupid or something cause it sounds like you are 😂
@august591
@august591 4 ай бұрын
@@bladej7688 there are thousands of players who beat this game without using summons. Why would I lie, the bosses aren’t that hard bro Elden Ring is literally the easiest game in the series.
@GamingExploits
@GamingExploits 5 ай бұрын
This is a well made video, and your writing is great. Although, I'd have to respectfully disagree with this take. Lots of people put different constraints on what it takes to "truly" beat or enjoy a souls game. Some will say using a specific weapon is wrong, some say the summons, others might go as far as to say levelling is wrong. But the fact of the matter is truly beating/enjoying a souls game, or any game, is as simple as the act of beating/enjoying it. If it's in the game it IS the true way of beating it. Obviously glitches and exploits (which is what I mostly cover) aren't the intended way of beating a game, but players definitely still enjoy doing it! Everyone is different and I'm not sure we should take away from any players' achievements in the game just because we don't agree with how they did it. But like I said man, this is a great video :)
@Peapodzilla
@Peapodzilla 5 ай бұрын
He's doing it in a way that makes sense for his stream. He's fast paced, high energy, and is playing this differently than if he were doing it off camera.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
Makes sense
@Dare5358
@Dare5358 4 ай бұрын
If it's in the game, it's in the game and it's fair. And the experience is subjective, some ppl don't like the grind and that's fine. But what next "tut-tut, THAT weapon? That spell? Nope, you didn't get the correct experience, try again." I think Doc has heard and responded to this sentiment of "don't use the mimic" already, and it is what it is.
@patricknorris9334
@patricknorris9334 4 ай бұрын
Turning elden ring into an auto battler is super fun. Almost as good as raid shaddow legends or even cookie clicker.
@wolf-tx6wm
@wolf-tx6wm 4 ай бұрын
People like this is what makes others not want to play these masterpieces of games we don't need your gate keeping you make every souls fan look bad. You know whats great about these games you can play them how ever you want every play through can be different. Not everyone has to play it your way
@giosma3156
@giosma3156 5 ай бұрын
Playing Elden Ring in the right way: Look at all those items, spells, armor, weapons and summons, it should be fun to try them, but you can't do it, because you would be playing the wrong way, so discard 80% of the game content, and play with the simplest weapon that exists. Oh look, you explored the caves and now you are level 100, I'm sorry you are playing the game wrong, Elden Ring is only enjoyable if you are level 70 or less. That's right, the best way to enjoy the game is to play it the same way I did. I had to die 60 times to defeat a boss with a knife for no reason, but I felt special doing it, so if you don't defeat him the same way then you're not that special. Other guy who plays elden ring in the right way: Hahaha you are also playing elden ring wrong, the true way to play it is by parrying all attacks of the bosses, that is the true essence of the game Another guy who plays elden ring in the right way: You are all wrong, the true way to play Elden Ring is to beat the game without leveling up your character. Everyone wants to feel more special than others.
@3psilon674
@3psilon674 4 ай бұрын
nice strawman, all the melee build crows are so going to be running away at this one look i aint gonna deny there is some weirdoes who think this but most of the opinion by the opposition is that mimic tear and broken weapons take away from the point of a soulsborne game
@thepainphantom
@thepainphantom 4 ай бұрын
I'm the guy who parry all of the attacks, even the bosses lol. But I don't judge others. I like seeing how others enjoy their own game with their own style. This is a good representation life: people have different race, religion, diet, and so on. It's insane to force others to live the same way as us.
@SlowPok3Gaming
@SlowPok3Gaming 4 ай бұрын
@@3psilon674 we found one
@matchamarcellan8683
@matchamarcellan8683 4 ай бұрын
Doc just needs to play the game 2nd or 3rd time, each with a different build
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 3 ай бұрын
So items which cheapen the combat system are "content"? The issue here is that the game gives options and then people complain about themselves choosing an option they didn't like.
@mxgamerprov3767
@mxgamerprov3767 4 ай бұрын
The game rewards you for exploring and mimic tear is one of the reward.
@cesarflores1528
@cesarflores1528 4 ай бұрын
How a fool you feel when Miyazaki just said: "Using guides and help are perfectly valid to play Elden Ring". I'm all about "Git Gud" but i'm a souls player since Demon. Newcomers can and SHOULD play with any help provided because "Git Gud" shouldn't mean "Be a Jerk"
@bigirononmyhip3812
@bigirononmyhip3812 4 ай бұрын
The game isn't designed with people using guides in mind Miyazaki has said that himself but yes I'm sure he's accepting of people that do of course
@aidenstainbrook6733
@aidenstainbrook6733 5 ай бұрын
This guy saying that souls likes are unique because there aren't powerful builds to make the game easy is fucking hilarious because there definitely are a shitload of broken builds to make the game easy as
@lebronstan99
@lebronstan99 5 ай бұрын
Brother are you the Elden Ring Playstyle Police? Lmao
@HellonearthlABB
@HellonearthlABB 4 ай бұрын
so it seems lol
@wolf-tx6wm
@wolf-tx6wm 4 ай бұрын
And what's crazier is that there are people defending this dude they are the problems with these games and don't even know it
@FearTheCaboose1337
@FearTheCaboose1337 4 ай бұрын
Complaining about the game being too easy while running a cheese build is really kinda dumb
@HellonearthlABB
@HellonearthlABB 4 ай бұрын
@@FearTheCaboose1337 if those things are in the game that means the game is inherently easy, nerd
@FearTheCaboose1337
@FearTheCaboose1337 4 ай бұрын
@@HellonearthlABB not really, no. They are the game's adaptive difficulty. Choosing to abuse the most powerful items is generally for people who can't succeed or have fun without them. Using them while complaining that they make the game too easy is just kinda dumb
@jerrym1218
@jerrym1218 4 ай бұрын
When you play and beat games like Dark Souls 1, II, & III, Bloodborne and Sekiro which are games that do not give you the get out of one-on-one fights jail, it shows the type of player that you truly are and when you see that they give you the option to summon NPC warriors to help you, it feels like they were there to try and assist those the first time FromSoft casuals who aren’t ready for the one on one fights yet and probably gave up on the previous games because there was no option of assisting unless you were online. Too this day, my all time toughest FromSoft bosses the very first time playing were Lawrence, Ludwig, Orphan, Fume Knight, Smelter Blue Demon, Elenora with Velstat summoned, Sinh, Demon of Hatred, Father Owl in the past, Inner Isshin reborn, the demon prince, Sister Friede, and Manus. After defeating them that first time, I felt like a GOD.
@Waupn6
@Waupn6 5 ай бұрын
I thought a similar thing the other day actually when I saw Nickmercs see Doc’s Malenia attempt. I thought to myself as Doc was obliterating her with the blasphemous blade and mimic tear. I’m always glad to see a person playing these games that I haven’t seen yet. Calling it easy on the other hand while using a broken legendary weapon with the best summon in the game and just spamming the AOW, is another thing entirely 😂 I’ve always said “the only correct way to play is by having fun” but calling it easy while only using legendary gear just ain’t right 😂
@gamingowl5464
@gamingowl5464 4 ай бұрын
Well said, that's exactly what I think. Play whatever you want, but don't say stuff like "eaaaasy" or "don't know why everyone said this is difficult" after shredding opponents with the best tools in the game witouth even actually engaging in the fight
@HellonearthlABB
@HellonearthlABB 4 ай бұрын
yes officer, this guy right here, he used the mimic and made me cry! i'd like to add also that the best thing about doc is that he doesn't care, he had some crybabies like this dude crying about the mimic on his streams, he laughs at them for what they are, lil nerds with nothing going on their lifes besides videogames, we will keep using the mimic, we will beat the dlc and call it easy, we will cheese the game in every possible way, and there is literally NOTHING you can do about it lol
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 2 ай бұрын
He's gripping. Boom.
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 2 ай бұрын
He doesn't want to "git gud;" He wants to "cheese" the game. And maybe commit some adultery with a lil' ephebephilia in the mix.
@DionPanday
@DionPanday 4 ай бұрын
Had to stop the video at 1:20 No souls games aren’t about the difficulty. Miyazaki said so himself. Its a tool to pull you into the world nothing more nothing less. Wich is exactly what dr. Disrepect did as you pointed out. If you want a gold medal for beating a game “the intended way” you should probably play one of the many way more difficult games out there than Elden ring
@jamesedmundson9684
@jamesedmundson9684 4 ай бұрын
yikes four weeks is a long time...
@asdfjgh
@asdfjgh 5 ай бұрын
“H-HE DIDN’T PLAY HOW I SAY HE SHOULD REEEEE”
@CASTdissocation
@CASTdissocation 5 ай бұрын
Casual spotted
@yavantii3615
@yavantii3615 5 ай бұрын
​@@CASTdissocation since when is playing casually a bad thing? I have about 2-3h every other day to clock in for gaming due to working a fulltime job, gym, marriage and also wanting to do some other social activities. Supposedly I'm meant to feel bad about myself for not being literally addicted to a videogame i enjoy playing ocassionally.
@toastmalone1853
@toastmalone1853 5 ай бұрын
@@CASTdissocationyou complain about how people play the game that was meant to be more accessible then wonder why people are intimidated by souls borne games 💀
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
@@CASTdissocation Not everyone is a sweat lord “I beat the game with no weapons” player like you
@dusty74
@dusty74 4 ай бұрын
@@williammoutchia9292 We're not trying to bash you over the head for upgrading your weapon. We want you to experience the joy of failure and triumph. We want you to get to that point where you download a boss and get that high of knowing YOU did it. Intense struggle will elevate your experience like nothing else. I promise if you try a challenge run you will enjoy it so much. Doesn't have to be a no vigor no weapon no dodging run, just limit yourself a bit. Enough so that you struggle against big bosses and are forced to learn the combos and dance between them. Give it a chance and be patient, I believe
@Joni_Tarvainen
@Joni_Tarvainen 5 ай бұрын
Elden Ring was my second FS game after BloodBorne, which still stands as my favorite game of all time. BloodBorne's atmosphere was so insanely good I had to see it through no matter what it took, which led me to wander around 9 hours straight without knowing where I'm supposed to even go before eventually noticing the staircase next to Alfred. That aimless wandering and slaughtering everything I came across and eventual discovery where I'm supposed to go somehow gave me the most excitement of any game ever (and way higher level I was supposed to be at that point). With Elden Ring there was not that maze like structure, so from the get go I wandered the Lands between just 'cause I could. I found Mimic tear interesting and used it a lot on situations where I found myself struggling or if I wandered into boss arena and had a Great rune active 'cause I didn't want to lose Rune Arcs. It took me up to Mountaintops of Giants to even actually realize that Ashes of war were actually extremely useful, which in turn made the game exponentially easier (I was using Reduvia and Uchikatana 'cause I wanted to go with bleed build) and from that point on, I barely ever used Mimic before hitting NG+2 when the level you're on doesn't matter that much anymore. At the moment I'm running NG+4 to NG+7 as Guts from Berserk and won't use Mimic 'cause I want to feel like the badass I'm playing as.
@sethclops
@sethclops 5 ай бұрын
Beating a FromSoftware boss is one of the best feelings, especially after dying to said boss 57 times These games teach you to persevere in the game, and in life as well. Miyazaki and company are geniuses
@santiago.v1743
@santiago.v1743 4 ай бұрын
Miyazaki don’t give a single f* about what you said, he want us to play the game the way that we want All that bulsh* was souls player who made it to look cool
@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721
@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721 4 ай бұрын
"Beating a boss is one of the best feelings, especially after dying to said boss 57 times." This is literally the oldest concept in the book in a world of computer games, coming from arcade platformers designed in a way so you have to throw another coin in. Nothing new.
@sethclops
@sethclops 4 ай бұрын
@@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721 You clearly don’t know how quotation marks work. You cut out the words From Software, but still used quotation marks. It’s not a quote if you edit it. 😂😂😂From Software games are way harder than any arcade game. Nice try though
@stevenbryan2394
@stevenbryan2394 4 ай бұрын
@@santiago.v1743”Miyazaki would’ve wanted me to play this notoriously hard game with great game design in a way that I don’t experience any of it! I need to use spells so I can get back to my gooning streak faster!”
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
@@sethclopsYou silenced him lol
@bennja010
@bennja010 5 ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics performed in this comment section is of olympic level. You can really tell who coasted through the game with broken builds and/or mimic tear
@haunbeuii1635
@haunbeuii1635 4 ай бұрын
Ikr, you have to play blindfolded, bare fisted, 1 vigor, and butt ass naked or you didnt really beat the game.
@bdicap2588
@bdicap2588 3 ай бұрын
Gem
@jordanmeredith4680
@jordanmeredith4680 5 ай бұрын
Bruh its a game, let them play howver they want to. Sick of souls fanboys gatekeeping.
@anukthotawatta982
@anukthotawatta982 5 ай бұрын
hes just suggesting what would be more enjoyable. cool ur jets man
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
@@anukthotawatta982Nah he’s right though
@3psilon674
@3psilon674 4 ай бұрын
its a souls game, if you dont want to play it like souls then dont play souls simple as that
@blabla-fw9ix
@blabla-fw9ix 4 ай бұрын
@@3psilon674 I mean you its in the game , I personally hate summons and never use them but if its there then do what you will . If anybody is to blame for this being in the game its FS not Dr. Disrespect . Nobody forced FS to put this sh!t in the game but they did it to appeal to a broader crowd , its a net negative for the game but a net positive for the company so yeah , it is what it is .
@3psilon674
@3psilon674 4 ай бұрын
@@blabla-fw9ix atleast someone has common sense, i dont hate people who summon but the game mechanic just encourages a really boring playstyle and thats why i dislike them heavily
@JERICHOplaysx
@JERICHOplaysx 5 ай бұрын
good vid, good pacing - I agree with the angle you're taking as well
@Kage_1831
@Kage_1831 5 ай бұрын
This whole notion of gatekeeping certain items in the game is stupid. Because this one item is so powerful, and because you didn't have it in your play through, I'm trash and shouldn't be allowed to use it because it makes the game easier. Maybe just make a better build. Or explore better. In other words, GET GUD. Let me have fun. You have your way. I have mine.
@jmz6518
@jmz6518 5 ай бұрын
don't listen to em they just want you in crutches you do you you paid for the game so play how you want there ain't no point in arguing with these people because they will always complain even if your playstyle suits them they'll find a way to bitch about it some people just have to much time in their hands and of course want attention.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
@@jmz6518True
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
@@jmz6518 True, and it’s kinda weird how obsessed some of them get
@patricknorris9334
@patricknorris9334 4 ай бұрын
I think the author was refering to Doc looking up the exact cheese strat to spam the hardest boss not dunking on using items. Going out of your way to find the exact build and combination of summons and items to be able to defeat a boss without even having to interact with it is not exactly the same as saying "you have to play my way to enjoy the game". Also, theres like 50 other summons that can actually be used and don't break the game but the doc picked the exact sword skill that is coded to flinch the boss just long enough to spam while a suped up AI version of the character plays for him.
@jmz6518
@jmz6518 4 ай бұрын
@@patricknorris9334 brother, miyazaki himself said its ok to google builds and guides idk what you are on about doc still enjoyed the game you know whats not enjoying the game listen to someone else telling you how to play it look at jinxy mans quits cause instead of exploring, leveling up and getting stronger he had someone talking in his ear where to go to get to the main bosses fast was underleveled as shit and got clapped that is ''not enjoying the game''
@joe_davola1085
@joe_davola1085 4 ай бұрын
Ah yes, a 12 minute gate keeping video. What's funny is even if he played without the mimic tear, people like you would find something else to bitch about his gameplay style, maybe too much armor? Souls game gatekeepers are the absolute worst and should be ignored entirely. It's a fucking video game.
@3psilon674
@3psilon674 4 ай бұрын
strawman, the main complaint from people on the opposition is broken builds and mimic tear, nobody gives a shit about armour
@mayhem5235
@mayhem5235 4 ай бұрын
3:40 When game so good it summons the soul of the macho man randy savage to inhabit your body 😂
@zcjcc133
@zcjcc133 5 ай бұрын
The point is to enjoy if you try to play it as hard as you can and don't enjoy then you missed the point.
@LyllianaofMirrah
@LyllianaofMirrah 5 ай бұрын
don't worry he hasn't experience getting lost in dark souls 1
@JasonMondal
@JasonMondal 4 ай бұрын
Ayyy made it into the video lol 2:03 Great video btw 👍🏻
@Ocean5ix
@Ocean5ix 5 ай бұрын
I think people "deify" Souls games so much, as if they're ancient divine scripture written by God himself. The thing is.. just as religion in the real world, "the point" of these games or "Miyazaki's vision" are easily interpreted and distorted to fit any narrative. We don't know what his vision is and what the point of the game is. He said it himself that he wasn't going to put an Easy Mode in the game because "if he can beat it, anybody else can too", which sounds great on paper, but then you realize the game has all this stuff you talked about in your video, summons, spells, status effects and broken weapons. So what does he actually mean by "I can beat it, so anyone can"? Does it mean he's so average that anyone can do it? Under which circumstances? Do we know if he used the summons or a spell to beat it? Maybe he did it with the help of his co-workers and testers in coop? All of this hilariously reminds me of the plot of Metal Gear Solid. Everybody thinks they know what The Boss wanted for the world, so all of them put their multi decade plans in motion. The thing is, nobody truly know what she wanted, they just projected their own vision of what the world should be. Like, Miyazaki says "anyone can beat the game" and everybody goes like "LISAN AL GAIB! HE JUST SAID WHAT THE POINT OF ELDEN RING IS!11!!!" If you ask me, based on what he says and the kind of guy he seems to be, the point of his games is beating them. Reaching the end and watching the credits roll. I think that's what he ultimately wants and everything that happens in between (aka how you did it) doesn't matter.
@imraw17
@imraw17 4 ай бұрын
Use Mimic Tear and crush bosses because why would I fight fair against an undead dragon? You're a fool if you gate keep yourself and then think you're better than someone else for using tools in the game.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
True
@3psilon674
@3psilon674 4 ай бұрын
ah yes because even if you summon mimic tear you're on the same level as someone who did a level 1 run nice thinking there bucko, objectively solo players are better at the game if you really need proof compare the two playstyles by playing them both and see which one is easier this has got to be the most stupid take imagineable
@imraw17
@imraw17 4 ай бұрын
@@3psilon674 nobody cares about your level 1 run. You were probably wearing diapers when Demon Souls came out.
@charleswallace4740
@charleswallace4740 5 ай бұрын
Your analysis of why the Souls games are so good is spot on. Elden Ring was my first one, and the bit about having to confront your own inadequacy and actually git gud is exactly what happened to me when I began the game.
@LUX0RIOUSS
@LUX0RIOUSS 3 ай бұрын
this video is hard to watch after knowing what doc did
@parl_hd
@parl_hd 4 ай бұрын
It's a video game for fuck sakes. Play it however the fuck you want to play it. What you enjoy is what YOU enjoy. What someone else enjoys is what THEY enjoy. Why is that so hard to undertand?
@Alon_Maor
@Alon_Maor 2 ай бұрын
Souls players when someone dares using the mechanics and tools put in the game by the developers instead of being a generic sword guy and dying 1,000,000 times to the same boss
@lamepeaks9044
@lamepeaks9044 5 ай бұрын
Are you with those chatters always pissing off streamers cause they don't play your way??
@MullilluM
@MullilluM 5 ай бұрын
You know he was. He was fuming the whole time, and finally calmed down enough to decide to make this video.
@CrutchTouch
@CrutchTouch 4 ай бұрын
Ignore the comments that straw-man his argument. He is just lamenting that his favorite streamer denied himself a potential opportunity to discover the defining “flow” state that From Software has perfected in past titles. Not all play-styles in Elden Ring are equally as rewarding, or facilitate the “self-overcoming” mantra of the series from a pure gameplay perspective. Odd how defensive these comments are. Respect for speaking your mind, regardless of how apparently misunderstood your views are.
@DeadGuyInTheGround
@DeadGuyInTheGround 5 ай бұрын
While I understand the idea of this video and to an extent agree with your talking points, I feel like this is one of those slippery slope "play the game my way" arguments. Let's say he didn't summon but instead used a powerful magic build. Would that invalidate his playthrough because he used a ranged build? Or what if instead of magic he used hard hitting jump attacks or used a bleed build that delete most enemies with little effort. Would that invalidate his playthrough? See at a certain point it boils down to personal preference, each person has their limit on the bs they're willing to consume. Many solo players had to resort to "OP builds" in order to defeat the toughest bosses. So at what point then does "the souls journey" become legitimate? Do you have to defeat the boss hitless at soul level 1 with your bare fists to prove you truly enjoyed the experience?
@shevankaseneviratne1724
@shevankaseneviratne1724 4 ай бұрын
this is a good point tbh. At least with jumping attacks and bleed u need to actually hit the enemy with it being 100 percent focused on u. None of the bosses are designed around multiple opponents except radahn. They even tried to design bosses to have counterplay to magic spam but there so many spells with delayed casts or good enf tracking to make it so that you dont have to learn boss movesets as much.
@joeallen3388
@joeallen3388 4 ай бұрын
Bro who cares let people play how they want, the right way to play elden ring is playing to have fun. Real loser take here.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
This person gets it
@bd00814
@bd00814 5 ай бұрын
There is no better feeling than cheesing a boss.
@anukthotawatta982
@anukthotawatta982 5 ай бұрын
have you ever actually beaten a boss through the "dance" of combat? if not then you dont know what you are talking about.
@bd00814
@bd00814 5 ай бұрын
@@anukthotawatta982 Ha ha, Yes of course, I was fishing and seem to have got a bite.
@toastmalone1853
@toastmalone1853 5 ай бұрын
@@anukthotawatta982gatekeeping ahhh💀💀
@HellonearthlABB
@HellonearthlABB 4 ай бұрын
fact lol
@acherontiaatropos6048
@acherontiaatropos6048 4 ай бұрын
@@toastmalone1853 Gatekeeping is good. Thanks.
@jibblestherat
@jibblestherat 4 ай бұрын
A game is supposed to be fun not a chore who cares how people play a game. If their having fun that’s all that matters
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying
@jibblestherat
@jibblestherat 4 ай бұрын
@@williammoutchia9292 ya I’ll tell ya if it wasn’t for some of these things to make the game easier I would have refunded this game this is my first souls game and I’m on ng+11 now and I still use mimics and an op build because that’s what makes the game fun for me I don’t want to spend 5 hours on morgott cuz there comes a time where you just want progress in the story and dying over and over again is just not fun I get the whole concept of these games but look at Skyrim and how well Skyrim has done over the years and look at dark souls over the years both games have done really well over the years but new people are more inclined to play Skyrim because of the easier nature of the game which from a developer standpoint and the game standpoint is just better it keeps the games alive even if the game is 10+years old
@FROGxDELIVER
@FROGxDELIVER 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, the late game enemies can be pretty brutal if you don't build it right. I think he just doesn't know the options that would make it more enjoyable without getting 2 shot
@enman009
@enman009 5 ай бұрын
And here's the interesting thing: you don't really have to build a really strong character either. Even getting a weapon in the first hour, and taking it slightly upgraded to the end, is enough to beat the game. The most important thing is not the build or the tools, it's your acquired skills, even if that means a million deaths. The thing with disrespect, aside from doing things for content, is that he doesn't seem to try and improve on his own.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
True, I remember getting dusted by some knight looking dude near the erdtree on my first ever time playing
@3psilon674
@3psilon674 4 ай бұрын
not having 60 vigor + armour "why am i getting two shot"
@Plight_
@Plight_ 5 ай бұрын
I somewhat see where you're coming from. ratatoskr made the same point a few days ago. I remember being stuck on a boss for about 20mins after consently getting it down to less than 20% i just put on more damage. After that i blew through the boss without really having to dodge anything or learning the second phase. Isnt that also the wrong way to play? I watched asmond run a jump attack strength build. With it he was able to skip a lot of boss's mechanics and combos. Wasn't that also the inferior way to play? I feel like it's the same for a lot of ashes of war. Then there's status effecte like rot, bleed, and frost that cut the time to put a boss down in half. Missing a lot of attack patterns and mechanics Some players are just not that good or don't have the will power to beat there head against a wall until they break through. They'd sooner quit than to get to the other side. The question shouldn't be that are they experiencing all the game has to offer. Instead it should be are they having fun?
@patricknorris9334
@patricknorris9334 4 ай бұрын
There's a big jump between wanting to use a frost or bleed build and looking up the exact cheese strat to beat the hardest boss in the game using one button on the controller while the suped up AI version of your character plays the game for you.
@Plight_
@Plight_ 4 ай бұрын
@@patricknorris9334 it's not... You're deliberately making spirit ashes sound obtuse. "Looking up the exact cheese" really bro? I can delete a boss with a jump attack build faster than it would take me to say the words get gud I've invaded before most people played the game just spam ashes of war like I said anyway. The skill level for the average player is very low
@mythicalytshorts
@mythicalytshorts 4 ай бұрын
u deserve way more subs than you have bro. came here after the mobile ads games series and u are a great youtuber
@jibblestherat
@jibblestherat 4 ай бұрын
So moral of the story don’t listen to this guy play the game how you want and IF you’re enjoying the game that’s all what matters
@Wraith1283
@Wraith1283 5 ай бұрын
What an L take here lol. The Elden Ring community is full of elitist snobs and this guy is one of them. Let people play the game like they want for crying out loud. Get a life. Doctor Disrespect also said this game is easily in his top 5 of all time. He constantly gushes about the environments in the game and is genuinely having fun. Stop the stupid gate keeping.
@yavantii3615
@yavantii3615 5 ай бұрын
I would retaliate that argument. It is you who is missing the point. Many elitist FS fans themselves undersell these games entirely by pretending it's just a masochistic get-better-at-boss-simulator. Elden Ring is absolutely magical in every aspect, from gameplay, to lore, to design, to content. The fact that you could copypaste the lands between into a bethesda engine and play it like Skyrim, it would at least still hold up to be an incredible game. Many people who play ER as their first Soulslike are not doing it for the "souls journey" but to experience and explore the entirety of the games world and atmosphere that Miyazaki has created. They wanna see all the cool shit, but they may not enjoy the experience of having their exploration of that world stunted by not being able to progress through the game and getting repeatedly stuck at the same boss until they learn his entire moveset in F-Dur.. Understand that this experience that works for YOU is not universally liked. FromSoft has deliberately designed their game to be accessible to this demographic aswell but WITHOUT taking away the possiblity of going on that "souls journey" that you describe. It is the most succesful FromSoft title because it caters to both audiences here, FS hardcore players and general fantasy RPG fans that have not wanted to try a Souls game before. As long as you manage to have fun with this you have understood "the point of Elden Ring" (or any game whatsoever) . There is no guide on how to do that. If you're sitting there telling people that the way they enjoy a game is "missing the point", then you are likely not getting the point why people escape into gaming in the first place.
@CASTdissocation
@CASTdissocation 5 ай бұрын
I didn’t read all of this but elden ring is a journey, a harsh journey to possibly save the world, it isn’t supposed to be easy. They put summons for casuals, so they can play the game in easy mode and and not cry like they did in ds3
@GregoThe3rd
@GregoThe3rd 5 ай бұрын
@@CASTdissocationi played elden ring with summons and found dark souls 3 incredibly easy
@keener9563
@keener9563 4 ай бұрын
But not every game is supposed to be escapism, and I don’t think Elden ring is meant to be just that.
@yavantii3615
@yavantii3615 4 ай бұрын
@@keener9563 videogames are all escapism to an extent, the point is to enjoy your time with it.
@keener9563
@keener9563 4 ай бұрын
@@yavantii3615 I disagree, but if someone is not interested in more than shallow fun I can't do anything about that.
@PanicRolling
@PanicRolling 4 ай бұрын
He didn't even do that badly against the Sentinel outside of Maliketh's room...that was a solid attempt honestly. Obviously he needs to learn the dodge timings and stuff, but I don't think that was the slam dunk example you might've thought it would be.
@NeedsContent
@NeedsContent 5 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct. If a mere item in the game can SOLO bosses all on it's own, without any player input, then the player's contribution is meaningless. You may as well not be playing the game, because the game is playing itself. That's an undeniable truth, and sadly a lot of players get really defensive about it. On the other hand, not every player can afford to spend hours upon hours learning every nuance that a boss has to offer. Some people want to be part of the experience without that grueling grind. In short, Elden Ring finally has that Easy Mode that game journalists have been asking for.
@MisterYellowStream
@MisterYellowStream 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it's kinda of weird that the community response to an item in the game that is so powerful it trivializes the entire challenge of the game isn't to acknowledge that as a fault of the game but to blame the player behind the controller. To use an extreme analogy, if someone's cocaine is laced with fentanyl and they fucking die from it, is it the drug user's fault or the drug manufacturer who put it in there in the first place? Feels weird to blame the user because they thought they were using something in line with what they'd seen previously from that kind of experience.
@NeedsContent
@NeedsContent 5 ай бұрын
@@MisterYellowStream I agree, the item is broken, it's just bad design. But "it's in the game" and many players defend it as a valid design choice. It's hard to have a serious conversation about it without people's egos getting in the way and if you speak up you will get dogpiled for having "a bad take" so I don't know where we go from here.
@CASTdissocation
@CASTdissocation 5 ай бұрын
I love this, someone in the comment section that actually knows what he’s talking about bless you bro
@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721
@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedsContent There are so many broken items in old games like f.e. Baldur's Gate 2 and people are still playing it. Some even think it's a part of the magic. Also, FF7's Knights of the Round? hahahaha Seriously...
@NeedsContent
@NeedsContent 4 ай бұрын
@@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721 This is technically true, but those older titles were (arguably) built around numbers and rng-style luck, not so much about real-time reactionary skill. This matters because it changes the context, nd context is very important. You're comparing Elden Ring to traditional RPG's, but at it's core ER is an action game. If you're still reading, let me present a scenario. Let's say a new Street Fighter game comes out and one of the characters is completely overpowered and you can use him to win every fight with close to zero skill. This could be fun gameplay for some people, sure. But we would also recognize that it's a completely broken character that would get banned from tournaments, etc. Any aspect of a game that short-circuits gameplay is broken, by definition. It would be like if a Bishop in chess was stronger than a Queen, for example. This is true of any game, not just Elden Ring.
@Frightful_Flan
@Frightful_Flan 5 ай бұрын
Seriously? Who cares how he played? Just let people play how they want.
@googootubtub
@googootubtub 4 ай бұрын
Doc's a content creator, and his content can be criticized. That is the point of this video. We can criticize movies for their scenes and plot, so this seems totally fair.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
@@googootubtub Is it really? He plays how HE wants, and no one can do anything about it. Trying to force people to play a certain way is just weirdo behavior
@googootubtub
@googootubtub 4 ай бұрын
@@williammoutchia9292 Is is weirdo behavior if a content creator leans on mimic, while constantly complaining about aim assist? Mimic is aim assist on steroids from Guadalajara. Doc would be the biggest weirdo hypocrite if so.
@googootubtub
@googootubtub 4 ай бұрын
@@williammoutchia9292 It's not like we are spying on his private gameplay. It's public content for entertainment, and yes criticism as well.
@oishicurrypuffus
@oishicurrypuffus 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, let the Dr. message who he wants, regardless of age
@Aayoooo
@Aayoooo 4 ай бұрын
The fact that people give this much of a monumental shit about how other people play a damn single player video game is baffling to me. Yes fighting a boss one on one is fun and rewarding in these games and I do recommend it to other players as it is a fun and challenging experience. But jesus im not going to go and make fun of them or invalidate how they played the game just because they experienced it differently than me. It’s just sad and further promotes toxicity in this community.
@swankflea5550
@swankflea5550 5 ай бұрын
Without the blasphemous blade no way the Dr. finishes. 😮
@shiningfilmzph
@shiningfilmzph 4 ай бұрын
Hey doc, I heard you like em young
@AluminumHaste
@AluminumHaste 5 ай бұрын
Elden Ring was also COMPLETELY out of his comfort zone, I'm amazed he got to the last boss at all.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
True, I had the same reaction
@muppet4227
@muppet4227 5 ай бұрын
Problem is that as much as people want it to be elden ring is not a souls game, it’s an open world rpg with soulslike combat. Unlike the souls series while you can still do it you aren’t meant to smack your head against a boss until you beat it, if something is too hard you explore the world and gather strength until you think your ready to take a crack at it again.
@karayi7239
@karayi7239 5 ай бұрын
Do you no-hit every boss while exploiting every opening with the most optimal response? I imagine not, yet, I'm sure you "engaged" with the game and feel like you've beaten the boss fair n square. You would scoff at the idea of "You didn't really appreciate the boss's mechanical design if you didn't no hit it. You were using the flask to cover up your mistakes." Elden ring, and every other souls game(some to a lesser extent) have modifiers to the mechanical difficulty presented. On one end, you could fist only no hit the entire game blindfolded with your feet, and on the other end, you can "cheese" bosses. BOTH, and everything in-between are within the purview of the game design and thus are equally valid as far as the game is concerned. I can't speak to Doc's specific mental state when it comes to using "op" builds. But you made a larger claim on how "trivializing" bosses "robs" you of the "true" experience. This is patently false and is rooted in elitism since demon souls. I have friends who straight up use a claymore with no ash of war start to finish with no summons, and other using magic, BHS, and a summon, both equally had a blast. Yes the guy with the claymore might've gotten more intimate with the boss's moveset, but both experienced a challenge they were happy with. My main point is that challenge is relative and so is the desire for challenge. 2 players with the exact same build can experience different levels of challenge due to their expertise. Moreover, 2 players experiencing the SAME amount of challenge could have 1 player simply not having fun and the other having a blast, people simply desire different levels of challenge. This is after all, a game, that is meant to be fun. Asking someone who desires a level of challenge less than what you deem appropriate is no less absurd than someone telling you "you should do a fist only no-hit run, don't deprive yourself of the true challenge", I imagine that this level of challenge is just not fun for you. Put simply, 1-people will be challenged to different extents given the same exact circumstances. 2- people have different tolerances to challenge, it's a game, not therapy or a class in spiritual training. What is a "good" challenge to you might be a "bad" challenge to someone else.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
Nice points
@AdmiralGunga
@AdmiralGunga 4 ай бұрын
I believe making a game very challenging creates a more rewarding and fulfilling experience. Sure it’s frustrating to almost get that final hit on Melania and fall just short of victory but it’s a tool to teach you on what and what not to do against a particular enemy. Skill and strategy have been two ingredients missing in a lot of games in decades past. I thank Miyazaki for bringing that all back without apologizing to the mass core of gamers.
@tnndll4294
@tnndll4294 4 ай бұрын
He spammed Malenia, but so what? he didn't use cheats. He finished the game as designed by the company.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 3 ай бұрын
So what? He finished the game. Was the video about finishing the game or the Doc's playthrough becoming underwhelming compared to when he was actually having fun?
@RENDAN_iel
@RENDAN_iel 5 ай бұрын
Get Doc to play Sekiro lol! This is a well thought out analysis from someone who seems to be a decent fan of Dr. Disrespect. I thought this was considerate to the subject being examined and a well explained way of how Elden Ring can allow players to miss the reason souls is so revered in the first place. It’s not “get gud”, it’s “you will improve, and it will feel incredible.” Kai Cenat is a great parallel example too ☝🏼
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
Ngl, I wanna see Kai play Sekiro next
@Never-t4y
@Never-t4y 5 ай бұрын
Im someone who just has such a hard time seprating the art from the artist. I simply could not enjoy anything doc related anymore.
@Skulll9000
@Skulll9000 5 ай бұрын
I don't watch the guy at all, so I tried googling it but I can't find a solid answer on what Dr Disrespect did exactly besides have some kind of legal dispute with Twitch?
@Never-t4y
@Never-t4y 5 ай бұрын
@Skulll9000 He has a wife and kids, when he started to get super popular he started cheating on his Wife. It might not bother some, but as a guy with a Wife and a kid I could not imagine how you could care so little about your family you would be willing to lose it all for sex. Honestly it's a pretty personal opinion, I understand not everyone considers cheaters horrible. But I personally could not imagine how a decent person could do that to their family.
@Skulll9000
@Skulll9000 5 ай бұрын
@@Never-t4y I had no idea, that's terrible. And I think most people consider cheaters to be horrible, you don't have to be so circumspect.
@fishbowel4601
@fishbowel4601 5 ай бұрын
saying magic was only good in elden ring proves you really havent played demon souls or the original dark souls
@DionPanday
@DionPanday 4 ай бұрын
This guy doesn’t even know what Demons souls is
@wolf-tx6wm
@wolf-tx6wm 4 ай бұрын
Demon's souls had incredible magic out of all the games that one did it the best
@Terron29
@Terron29 4 ай бұрын
Spot on. I would love to jump into an alternate universe where elden ring releases without any summoning whatsoever just to see what the reviews say and how the community would respond to it lol
@patricknorris9334
@patricknorris9334 4 ай бұрын
I wish there was a middle ground because summoning is a cool concept and it sucks that you miss out on the experience with summons but it also sucks to miss out on actual content by never using them. It would of been nice to have some specific boss encounters that were designed to use summons in almost a pokemon esque tagout style so you can actually see what all the different summons do.
@ryano699
@ryano699 5 ай бұрын
I disagree with everything you said because it’s honestly just dumb. However I think you could make the point that it would have been more entertaining for him as a streamer to use a different build.
@williammoutchia9292
@williammoutchia9292 4 ай бұрын
True
@nadaburner
@nadaburner 5 ай бұрын
I personally did a Cinqaeda run and Mohg's spear run shortly after this month. Sure the dagger playthrough was significantly more challenging but I still enjoyed both. As a viewer it does suck to have a streamer not experience the craft at it's most elaborate state and I think they do lessen their POTENTIAL overall enjoyment but the experience is still enjoyable regardless if you chose an easy or harder path, the point is they chose the way they want their journey to go.
@vwyd
@vwyd 4 ай бұрын
So glad seeing a Fromsoftware-sexual standing proud and strong this pride month, you go king!
@bobstevemd3265
@bobstevemd3265 2 ай бұрын
6:37 what location is this ?
@jcollins111111
@jcollins111111 4 ай бұрын
I am an experienced souls player. Played all these games without help but honestly i also played with my mimic and Tiche. You are right you dont need to learn the movesets but the mechanic is there so really its up to Doc. Some people will play with no armor, level 1 weapon and even with some item where they take double the dmg but who cares. Doc doesnt have the temparament to fight the same boss like 50 times
@thomaselvidge
@thomaselvidge 4 ай бұрын
Gatekeeping... in the souls scene? Never heard of that before.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 3 ай бұрын
Nobody's being gatekept, though.
@thomaselvidge
@thomaselvidge 3 ай бұрын
​@@ChucksSEADnDEAD "Nah you beat Elden Ring as a wizard? git gud bro, did you even play the game? You cheesed through it" Yeah no gatekeeping...
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