Dr. Gabor Maté on How to Reframe a Challenging Moment and Feel Empowered | The Tim Ferriss Show

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[@jameswagenschutz2925]

Tim is uncomfortable. Hits a nerve with him. Still working through childhood trauma....like most of us. Way to go for posting and being brave.

[@alexbenson3011]

100 percent fair play for posting

[@WallyMahar]

There's so many friends I know that if I tried to do this ...(I do do this with, but not well) with them I would get that look. Man that look. Yeah thanks for posting that. The biggest thing is how to get past that look... cuz now look where the anger is directed ...LOL And it usually comes out of nowhere, and I can't think fast enough on my feet.. . and that's where things go......

[@DrErinSepic]

Amen! Always ballsy, Tim. Thanks Man. Your courage is inspiring.

[@cybernurse2020]

Just as you commented, I too thought Tim was uncomfortable, but maybe for other reasons. It felt like he was being pressured to provide the answer(s) Gabor was holding out for. It's hard to know if Tim's original answer held true for him, as he seems like someone who likes to please. What do you think, as I'm new to this channel? It seemed unfair to keep re-phrasing the questions, as Tim's (original) answers seemed spontaneous, thoughtful, and sincere. Was it fair to keep pushing for different ones? Maybe Gabor knew best. In a different setting, where a "therapeutic alliance" exists, between client and therapist, that's fair game, but I don't think that was the case here. It seemed as though Gabor needed the podcast to land where it did, in order to illustrate his viewpoint on the topic. (And he needed Tim to supply the "right answer" that lead to that theme.) Was it at the expense of Tim's "truth"? We may never know. That's the "discomfort" I felt, even though I still enjoyed the podcast and found it interesting.

[@CyCascade]

@@cybernurse2020 interesting take. I read that too but it feels to me that both are true in degrees

[@shaniom913]

"Once you see yourself as the source, now you're powerful." Thank you, Gabor.

[@cecilevanduinhoven6840]

So true!!

[@AnaTai3]

Reframing to assume responsibility all along the way (unflinchingly) can be one's source of power. One may not 'jump to conclude: "I am not worthy of good treatment but rather where in this dealing did I fall short?" (of course this thinking doesn't fit the 'that's trauma' story being promoted as it is Mate's work.

[@carmenl163]

@@AnaTai3 If you were thinking logically like that, you wouldn't have felt the emotions. I'm sure you know from your own experience that you wanted someone you really trusted to do something. When they didn't follow through, you would immediately go to where there could have been an error, both on their and on your side. That's because you trust them. There is no trauma connected to your thinking. Now, with people you don't trust, there is a different story. Then you'll respond to your childhood experiences and go back to trauma.

[@TaniaMarie424]

“We don’t respond to the present moment, we respond to the past.” Amen!

[@straightfacts5352]

We respond to the present moment with the past.

[@kalleeann]

I know I wrote that sentence down immediately!

[@cybernurse2020]

We reply to the present FROM our past. What do you think?

[@Cruize91]

@@cybernurse2020 I understand where you're coming from, but I think Maté simply means that you have an emotional response to a past memory triggered by the present moment.

[@TimeFliesTimeManagement]

We don’t respond to what happens, we respond to our perception of what happens... 🔥🔥

[@KFlorent13]

Remind me of something I read in Marcus Aurelus's book.

[@tobinmoffatt3075]

Yayyy, we live in a world where people treat each other well and sadness is always just a logical fallacy that is never rooted in circumstance!!

[@KFlorent13]

@@tobinmoffatt3075 Are you missing the point on purpose ?

[@sunray6673]

yeah, we learn. isn't it amazing! ;)

[@coreycox2345]

@@tobinmoffatt3075 At times, our perceptions of reality are correct and at other times, false. Also, the truth is subjective for topics that defy scientific method.

[@walkerskii]

Wow Tim it took guts to post this! No one could ever convince me you don't care about your audience after being so publicly vulnerable - ironically this makes you appear even more masculine & worthy of respect.

[@darz_k.]

That is the gayest comment I have ever read.

[@darz_k.]

@@IMPACTPodcasterAcademy ..and this is the second gayest comment I have ever read.

[@Way_Of_The_Light]

How do you know if he cares? He rarely personally replies to any of us..

[@VinceAscaino]

@@Way_Of_The_Light The act of posting such obvious unconfortable moment its what signals a genuine person ( Action = Values) ( "Put you money where your mouth is" . His eyes, body language get clearly unconfortable by the second. He could have chosen to not make this moment public. Real action matching the message of declared values is what most humans will perceive as closer to the truth.

[@Way_Of_The_Light]

@@VinceAscaino I don't know if that's enough of a benchmark for me to accept that he "cares" about his audiences. He could have just posted this clip because it's a good clip to post and get more video views.

[@learningnochoice]

Tim is like your grown up brother, healing himself and showing the way to his siblings and the rest of the world. thank u for showing up for your inner child. 💓

[@zber9043]

Trauma is when we don’t respond to the present moment we respond to the past.

[@gama6749]

Z Ber this one got me

[@Badboyifier]

wow thanks for this

[@javiceres]

Sorry if I sound mean, the “is when” part sounds like a 10 year old explaining something l. That said the rest of the sentence is very interesting and eye opening. Thanks.

[@jasperbasson]

🔥🔥

[@cahillgreg]

@@javiceres Shush now

[@earthtohouston]

Someone once told me: never assume malintent, meaning don't assume someone is out to hurt/betray/annoy/damage you, the real answer is usually much more complicated. I've tried over time to reserve judgement because of that advice. Learn the whole story first, then proceed.

[@coreycox2345]

Sometimes that is not possible, Claire Houston.

[@owenlee9474]

Absolutely agree. As I approach 40 I am finally noticing I am doing this constantly 🥺 I wish for a day I could see through a new mind.

[@coreycox2345]

@@owenlee9474 In my case, I meant that I lack information. I enjoy being in my mind.

[@coreycox2345]

@@omardelmar It's always better to learn the full story before proceeding, if possible.

[@newyorker2581]

There are times you can't learn the whole story but if you can figure out for yourself what & why you are being triggered then at least when confronted with those feelings again instead of an overly emotional triggered response, you are able to respond to the present appropriately.

[@Abadia86]

Love to see authentic content!!! Tim made himself vunerable, stayed in the moment, was visible uncomfortable, but went through the conversation and we as an audience share the “Aha” moment 🙌🏼

[@davidfuller764]

Ah my close cousin-brother Tim F revealed me to me yet again. Now for the work..

[@getjonny6245]

Well said.

[@davewalman57]

Absolutely. Tim is me. Tim is most people.

[@TragicallyDelicious]

Similar to EMDR..kind of a EMD little r

[@janelliot5643]

Gabor Maté has a heroic gift for healing. Thank you, Tim Ferriss, for this.

[@mandycote5662]

No God is the gift Gabor is the human vessel-talent He’s not the Saviour

[@jarkachalmovianska7812]

@@mandycote5662 energy, universe...

[@nicolebond3992]

So brave of Tim to venture into this exercise with Dr. Maté. The doctor is right though, with our traumas we are really responding to the past more so than the present.

[@Celebrianna1]

Who else just wants to give Tim a hug after this act of emotional bravery?

[@annemaxwell9975]

Having the language to articulate how we feel is a huge step in resolving, unwinding our mental anguish.

[@sanaseafood]

Very good point. We try to teach this language at primary school now using emotion colour wheels. It's very useful for adults too.

[@CC-dx6bc]

Need education

[@communicationwithconfidence]

It's not the event - it's the meaning we give it. Beautifully illustrated here.

[@paulraymond5410]

Hello Free From Your Fears That's a nice video.. Well How are you today? I wish you a happy day 🍒🌹💐

[@Sock_Puppet_Muppet_Slots]

My counsellor turned me on to Gabor, he is an amazing mind and a very self aware human being. So happy I got connected to him. I am now 18 months clean from the dtes. Turned my life around.

[@TwinTalon01]

Fuggin glad to hear it, man. Keep going. Rooting for you!!

[@Sock_Puppet_Muppet_Slots]

@@TwinTalon01 thanks so much! Still in it to win it.

[@mikemihay]

Simply incredible. Best learning I had in my last 12 years of personal development. Thank you, Tim and Gabor Mate.

[@inigomontoya8943]

Wow I’ve never seen Tim get this uncomfortable it’s pretty heartening to know someone as intelligent and sharp as him even still has his wounds. Props for posting this.

[@divinedaytripper6916]

Dr. Gabor Mate is a modern-day wizard. The combo of Tim Ferriss -- whom I admire and his work with the wizard is powerful beyond measure. Bravo Tim for your vulnerability.

[@ryanboyle6688]

He's awesome cause he saw all the bullshit in a broken system and just started talking about it and seeking how far it went.

[@intentionalliving7326]

Well put!!

[@carmelaG20]

Wow I had to pause this video and have a big cry. That hit home.

[@docgillygun9531]

Tim really reached down deep for that power move and put something out there for all of us to learn and benefit from, and he handled it with absolute class and gratitude.

[@curlymissy]

Wow, Gabor Mate is truly a gift to the world. Thank you Gabor and thanks @TimFerris for always having him on your show

[@heatherk569]

How brave of you to do this on camera. Thank you for being open to being vulnerable, so we may learn. I hope you got something out of this too. Be well.

[@LinVE1967]

Oh my gosh!!! I SOOOOO needed to hear this right at this moment. My blood was boiling. My stomach was sick and my chest was constricted and I didn't know what to do with those feelings!! Am sooo grateful for this video!

[@CC-dx6bc]

😢

[@bobdillaber1195]

Life sometimes brings us things at the very moment we most need them.

[@FiberFairy22]

How beautiful this is, to watch how Gabor navigates and leads Tim safely to the learning. Tim’s relieved smile at his “aha!” moment at the end is priceless 🥰

[@fridar192]

Gabor Mate is revolutionary in healing past trama. Its so wonderful to see the vulnerability in healing. It's not weakness it's courageous! Love it! Thank you💓

[@christinaduncan8285]

This was a very powerful lesson. I will never forget "Reframe This Situation" (thank you Dr. Mate), which puts an almost immediate halt to ftrue anger or, worse, blowing a gasket. The important reminder for me in this is that people do things, or don't do things, for reasons I may never know about or understand, and very likely their actions or inactions have nothing at all to do with me. That's not to say if their behavior is habitual I'm not entitled to do something about it, but at least I will come to a decision intellectually and not emotionally.

[@pepperings]

no you won't. you will feel the emotion no matter how you wish you wouldn't feel it. Your decisions intellectually have no choice but to be reached by emotion, even if you turn down the knob to cool. And moreso if you turn it to cool, because what you really had wished for is the warm setting. Talking heads can make you see something that when tried you realize was hogwash.. talking heads made a lot of money off you, too. If you look into Gabor more, you will see he capitalizes off his holocaust trauma and everything in his life strings from it. I met him in person and his eyes are distant and cold to everyone. He really is a black hole pity party.

[@aalucyaf-zp5ut]

I would have started crying. When they hit right were it hurts, we're not ready for it. Tim is a strong man who has worked on himself intensively and has made strides in his healing journey. God bless you, Tim. Through your own vulnerabilities, you have saved more lives than you will have ever imagined. May you never ever feel any pain or hopelessness ever again. You are worthy of the most beautiful things in this universe. ❤️

[@santokki.007]

Gabor Maté is changing lives 🌈

[@shashankm14]

I don't normally comment on KZbin videos, but this one blew my mind. Wow.

[@mustafabaris9681]

Shashank M Always makes me curious why certain people consume a lot of KZbin but always use the phrase “ I don’t usually comment on KZbin videos “ , may I ask why you don’t comment ? I think that commenting is a form of communication , once you refrain yourself from doing it , you cut out communication ..

[@GermanLibertarian]

same here

[@InnerVisionStudios]

So great that you were able to partake in this exercise and equally great that Gabor was able to teach us about this.

[@karpisatish]

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[@learningnochoice]

Tim thank u for being honest, that is the way out of being a victim on an emotional level. we need a lot of care in the emotional level. thank u for letting your emotional mind speaking up , your honest responses.

[@TheGranti7a]

Thank-you Dr Maté, for facilitating an opportunity to see the depth of sadness in this generation.

[@flynnzilla8796]

And the ability of each individual to mend themselves! There is no other way

[@Hermetic_]

5:51 ...and that’s what Trauma is. We don’t respond to the present moment. We respond to the past. Thanks for posting this conversation.

[@gregrice3867]

Wow! One crystal clear example of what it means, "if you know the truth, it will set you free."! Thanks Tim and thanks Dr. Mate.

[@EricLumiereMusic]

Really awesome awarenesses here. The next step in my experience is giving the part of us what it needed that it didn't get...often through letting it share how it (little 'me') felt when so and so happened and then giving that part the Love it needed and still needs. The love can be anything from a hug, to words like "i love you" or "i got you" or "you didn't do anything wrong, etc etc. One of the big keys is allowing our emotions around the challenges so they can be cleared, completed and resolved through this process of awareness and loving ourselves. This is really important and deep work. Glad you are sharing this Tim.

[@danielwinner6394]

This also helps me to show others empathy. Its hard to know when you should let things slide and when to be assertive. This can help us do both. Or at least try to do both.

[@vincenthimself2986]

Seriously might be the best video I've watched all year.

[@mimsc2914]

My favorite doctor!!!! Thanks for having him on.

[@andreidoanca4262]

This was a powerful lesson. thanks for posting! it felt like it was a private therapy session. just that it was filmed and put on yotube. thanks

[@egorpiskunov680]

Wow! This is the best video I could bump in during my morning coffee. Thank you, Tim!

[@andreahirtelen1486]

THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting it. only 7 minutes. a whole lecture. i got it just in time. i am grateful. love. respect.

[@heartwisdomlove]

there are so many different ways to look at a situation like this that happened to Tim there are so many different ways to perceive life’s events i agree with the trauma lingering even after eons of healing awareness we are continually learning

[@Dischordian]

I really admire Tim's courage, and hunger, for this journey.

[@e.j.volkman7394]

Wow. This is seriously real. Tim, thank you for posting this.

[@ubayyd]

This has got to be of the most priceless pieces of advice I’ve seen on KZbin.

[@marcek9910]

Love, love, love this. So powerful, so true, so simple.

[@luciesupstairs]

Gabor is a legend 🙏🏽

[@aammssaamm]

He did not even get to the point. What is so special about him?

[@cbappa2]

@@aammssaamm are you slow?

[@aammssaamm]

Most likely you are :)

[@helensid6670]

Thank you, Dr Maté. Watching this video has been like a wonderful and for sure compasionate therapy session for free (thank you for posting!)

[@yosemartin73]

Keep listening to this over and over again. Love how Gabor breaks the situation and how Tim openly and honestly admit and follow through

[@danielleminceywhite3431]

Wow! Just realized that it's "okay" to own states of mind; but not emotions. I noticed this as I watched Tim struggle to name the emotion; but have no problem describing his state of mind. I see this within myself.

[@BrianBlack369]

This might be my favorite video on KZbin…ever. Thank you so much 🙏🏼

[@user-fg4my1mv8t]

Wow I chose this video after refusing to watch so many times and gratitude for you Tim and myself !!!

[@florenceweismusic]

Thank you for the gift of this video. I just came across it and it was exactly what I needed to hear.

[@moniquesantos437]

Tim Ferris and Gabor Maté!!?? My faves by far! Looove it! Life time lesson in 7 minutes! 😍😍😍💚💚💚💚

[@brandonazar2010]

This is very, very powerful. Great interview Tim.

[@intentionalliving7326]

So beautifully put! Thank you Tim and Dr Maté 🙏🏻🤗

[@jessjonesldn]

What an incredible conversation! Such a simple explanation about how all the negative stuff is coming from our own inner world! Really valuable advice and a technique that I plan to put into practice in my own life.

[@eglemark3901]

OMG! It has just changed my life perspective. At the moment I am going through a certain situation, which made me question my own worthiness. I tried to imagine how I would be reacting to " assumptional disrespect" if I was feeling completely loved and valued. Emmm..... First, I faced some difficulty to feel it that way (!). When I finally did, I had noticed that there are possible other reactions then anger/frustration. In a state of acceptance I was more kind and empathetic myself. I suggest to everyone to go through this little experiment.

[@108padma]

All respect to this wonderful teacher!

[@constructenglish1]

Omg what a powerful moment that I'm sure resonated with so many of us. Thank you for showing your vulnerability Tim. Both of you are wonderful peoole

[@HappyJiyoung]

I needed to hear this again. Thanks for shortening the clip and sharing! Love Gabor Mate's work. And yours Tim.

[@paulraymond5410]

Hello HappyJiyoung That's a nice video.. Well How are you today? I wish you a happy day 🍒🌹💐

[@onebeingeverybody7772]

this is a powerful brush with the good force. thank you.

[@airamona]

Thanks for the interview. The first time I watched this video few days ago, I didn't understand what Mr. Mate said about a lot of time, our emotional reactions are based on what happened in the past. Not what is happening now or currently happening. Now I understand.

[@upstreamrose1536]

This was excellent! A short and sweet video that immediately shows you how, by reframing, your thoughts can bring you power. Damn. Nice.

[@kimberliana5111]

This exercise helped my immediately! I will not forget this! Thank you!!!!

[@acpgiga]

You are powerful because you can resolve the problem yourself, and you not depending on someone to change it or do something for you to fix what you feeling...you do the change, you fix yourself by fixing your perception that changes your feelings...you are on top of the situation and you probably have the strength to help the guy who committed to help you but was powerless to do so. In turn, you can be of help to him so he can be of help to you...

[@Holeysocks464]

Or you realize the best thing you can do is grasp the significance of your lesson and stay out of the the other persons way so he can deal with his issues. Issues which you may have no ability to influence and to which your involvement may only delay his progress.

[@hiseggcelency]

Or in other words you just don't care so don"t even try. Helping is super straight forward, just listening can help people realise a lot of things about themselves.

[@Holeysocks464]

@@hiseggcelency no that’s not what I said. “ in other words” often assumes too much. No where did I say “ don’t care don’t try” . Circumstances can vary widely, I don’t think there is a one size fits all solution, as an example if you are dealing with a narcissist your strategy might want to be very different. It’s a big subject to discuss in short comments.

[@gracechan3039]

I always thought Tim had an overachiever persona which probably rooted in feeling not enough as a kid. Watching his difficulty discussing emotions and his negative feelings pretty much confirms that.

[@paulraymond5410]

Hello Grace Chan That's a nice video.. Well How are you today? I wish you a happy day 🍒🌹💐

[@MonaLisa-ur1px]

This is so revealing of ourselves. Who amongst us isn’t hurt or feel unworthy at times. Almost no one.

[@wenavi8289]

He’s on a different realm of amazing! Simple yet Profound

[@TheRealDavidJohnson]

I don't think I realized you had a channel. I've been living by many of your rules for a while. Thank you for showing people there are more options to life.

[@ppha0244]

The best youtube video ive watch for a very long time. Thank you for sharing this!

[@sentience21]

Interesting, powerful learning this resonated with me so much. In my own experience and learning I feel I can now “respond” to the present instead of “reacting” to the past.

[@elva1111]

Wow this just blew my mind, I have never considered the point of view here presented, childhood is the key almost every single time. Thanks for your precious knowledge Dr. Maté 🙏🏻

[@alieghbali]

Love and respect for you both for sharing your vulnerability so honestly. Love from Iran

[@charliesmythe2335]

I literally love this man!

[@nathansimmondscoaching]

Great insight, something every person caring for other people needs to learn...going to incorporate this and start teaching this as part of my work

[@SoySigno]

Absolutly beautiful conversation. Excelent example on how to discover our inner .... answers.

[@youtubeaccount6934]

This is a great tactic for a lot of things, but not everything. You can’t reframe every kind of challenging moment of trauma in this way. This hits different after knowing of Tim’s trauma. Wish him and everyone lots of healing. ❤️

[@cindyaho7757]

I agree. Sometimes we see our worth and others are doing things to get at us!?!

[@laurafitton9311]

This is really beautiful Tim, thank you.

[@shaneharvey1026]

Bold to share this Tim. The idea we do not react to the moment, but rather the remembered past, can open the door to chose a different path forward. We can begin architecting the person we want to become in these moments. And, add up enough of those reframed moments and your default will, more often than not, move you to a healthier initial reaction. Thanks Tim.

[@NormYip]

I had to listen to this twice. Really gets to the core of the matter. I have work to do still.

[@MamtaNarang]

Wow! So, it's me who is the source of feeling unworthy and disrespect. Thanks a ton Tim for sharing and being vulnerable. You got guts. From now on, I trust myself and I'm worthy. It's me.

[@paulraymond5410]

Hello Mamta N That's a nice video.. Well How are you today? I wish you a happy day 🍒🌹💐

[@leahprincess2642]

I respond to my feelings of unworthiness. This is such a help for me to understand.

[@canoslo6126]

For so many of us, those feelings of shame and unworthiness are how we were controlled by those in authority. They are like a little built in light switch that someone else controls until we learn about its existence and how to keep it at Off more. :-) If you struggle with these feelings, you might also enjoy the work of Brene Brown. A good place to start is her first TEDtalk . Gabor Mate's TEDtalk is wonderful, too! All the best. :-)

[@jeanbrowne456]

One of the most powerful, helpful videos on Utube..❤ Thank you

[@buda2049]

When you know you are the source , this is powerful " . Dr. Gabor. Very interesting

[@juliusriteco1355]

Can you explain it? I'm still not sure how to interpretate this. Maybe an example that can help me understand?

[@aammssaamm]

Cause Gabor did not get the real point.

[@adelacozlac366]

@@juliusriteco1355 For example, your husband forgot to buy bread. You get upset and you think @How could he do that, he knows I need that bread, he doesn't care about me@ so you actually get frustrated because of the interpreations you give to the fact that he didn't buy bread. He might have been tired or stressed and that is why he forgot, but YOU CHOSE to give more credit to the explanation that he doesn't care about you, which is actually what makes you sad. Sometimes, you don't even realize that the thought appears (the negative thought that he doesn't care about you; because, for example, when you were a kid, if someone forgot to do something for you and that person didn't care about you, your brain learned that whenever someone doesn't do something for you, they don't care about you; so, anytime something similar happens, your brain jumps to the same conclusion, even though the situation might be completely different now). So, since our thoughts/ perceptions are the ones that actually make our mood/ emotions, that means that we can work on the fact that we can choose how to react and that means we are powerful.

[@theresa1973]

Adela Cozlac omg so well said 🙏 thank you

[@brownyeman]

DUDE , bless you. thanks for this

[@nickibreuer]

Gabor Mate - your wisdom, hard-earned, is wonderful to watch and learn from, and Tim, your bravery inspires viewers like me to be brave.

[@sharonmessenmaker6311]

Deep respect for posting this Tim! 🙏🏻

[@Lizzyjaeger]

Goosebumps!!! This is the EXACT can of worms I am currently working through in therapy and I have been startled to find it is just as uncomfortable as working through specifics of trauma I endured. I am very grateful to see I am not the only person feeling uncomfortable with discussing sadness and unworthiness. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@panoramafotografiaimobilia2688]

This is gold, thanks for sharing!

[@ingeborgkreutzberg-rothman809]

Great !!! This comes to me in the very right moment. Thank you to both of you

[@joannedavey3445]

Thank you Time for your honesty and openness. I am currently getting help for my mental health issues and yourself and Gabor have helped me to see myself in a positive light. Something I am trying my best to do. Your conversation with Gabor helps me immensely and I look forward to hearing more about your journey through recovery.

[@angelalovarco2680]

WoW - thanks for sharing that powerful, vulnerable moment Tim. It resonates!

[@cappaslangmurderer]

good on you Tim and good on you Gabor for holding your nerve

[@ParisTNT]

Very vulnerable sharing. Thanks Tim and Gabor

[@artofwar420]

This is huge. Wow. Thanks for putting it out brother.

[@laurayeesnover631]

This is really great. I appreciate and respect Dr Mate. He makes so much sense. I love this experiment. How enlightening.

[@monapereira2900]

This talk is superb

[@jackiecrowe]

Thank you so much you amazing man, you help me so much. My friends and I all share your links. I love following your talks and have just ordered your book "In the realm of hungry ghosts" After watching your interview about it. Thank you once more and have a beautiful life. You are so connected.

[@kristenniemi5518]

Needed this, thank you!