Dr James Davies: The Origins of the DSM

[@vbneis]

The DSM is a Billing Manual, plain & simple!

[@silentumexcubitor6747]

You're correct! I call the DSM-5 a "catalog of billing codes". And ALL of the so-called "diagnoses" in it are bogus, and they were ALL INVENTED, not "discovered". That's because psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drug racket, and a means of social control. It's 21st Century Phrenology with potent neuro-toxins.

[@billybandyk0720]

​@@silentumexcubitor6747 The DSM was "developed" by Dumb Shitty Morons.

[@InitiallyNO]

Psychiatry really puts medicine to shame. Medical Associations need to call it out for the sham it is.

[@meb8743]

Abused patients are trying unsuccessfully.

[@matthewatwood8641]

@@meb8743 After all, they're "unstable", what do they know?

[@orsolyadobrosi4736]

Dr. Andrew Feldmar compares the DSM to Malleus maleficarum, the book the Inquisition used in the middle ages to decide who is a witch. Spot on.

[@Gonthesocials]

When they tell you that you suffer from depression, they don’t ask you if you hate your job or have any purpose to wake up too, no, they give you a pill to help you forget you hate your job.

[@stevestevens9203]

When will it be enough? When will enough people stand up & say NO MORE?? No more HACKS telling us how to define ourselves AND OUR CHILDREN??!!

[@billybandyk0720]

Completely agreed, Steve; SPOT-ON U R!!!!! BTW; ur namesake was Billy Idol's guitarist.

[@LifestylewithSharon]

Shocking. Unethical. Disgusting. Abuse of power. Thank you for your research into their lack of research and sharing about it to bring it to our attention

[@pensnme]

Holy shit - this video has confirmed something I've *KNOWN* and will *NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE* because I'm a mere pleb trying to understand a diagnosis given within 30 min by 12 strangers who have not known me for (33 years at the time). I'm 38 now and I'm searching deeper and getting hungrier for answers EVERY DAY. I hereby, respectfully *REJECT* my diagnosis.

[@PebbleBeachLife]

Well done! We all have the ability to self regulate internally. You don't need to plug into the madness matrix.

[@marthahenrich1185]

I rejected two diagnoses about 5 years ago but I know they will never be removed from my medical records and that ticks me off.

[@pensnme]

@@marthahenrich1185 those damn files are confidential and nobody in your life that matters will care about arbitrary labels that will probably be revised in the DSM 100 version. You are not your diagnosis. You are your choices. Believe in yourself 🌸

[@pensnme]

@@PebbleBeachLife I like your username 💪🏻

[@billybandyk0720]

​@@pensnme I don't have a problem w/my diagnosis (Bipolar Disorder); I have a problem w/its classification ("mental illness" which's SHAMEFUL & STIGMATIZING in the EXACT SAME MANNER as "mental retardation").

[@bellakrinkle9381]

I was born into a seriously dysfunctional family. I worked for years with Psychoanalysts, because a Psychologist could not answer my questions of her, as to why I was, as I was. She referred me to seek Psychoanalysis, which I did. I worked with a psychiatrist IN TRAINING to become a Psychoanalyst for many years. Although none of my original questions were ever resolved, it was not all for naught. I was able to return to university and more importantly I learned how to psychoanalyze myself, which I did many, many years later. What did I learn? I successfully treated myself, but more importantly I realized that we, ourselves, can only get to the heart of our issues. Every person is unique and different. Treatment of all problems with the same protocol (treatment plan) DOES NOT WORK!

[@kirsty4621]

I was diagnosed with Asperger’s. I had 18/18 symptoms and the clinical psychologist told me it was lifelong. I believed it for years, made it my identity, and limited my life accordingly. I eventually changed my lifestyle and mindset and almost every symptom went away 😂 How many other people have been told they have a lifelong condition when they don’t?!

[@billybandyk0720]

I have, Kirsty. Diagnosed @ age 4 in 1971 (I'm 55 now) w/Bipolar Disorder & ADHD (called Manic-Depression & Hyperkinesis, respectively, back in the 1970s). I was prescribed 30+ different psych meds ovr a 40+ yr period (been psych med-free since 1/1/2017). Courtesy of a book called "Your Drug May Be Your Problem: How & Why To Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications" by Drs. Peter Breggin & David Cohen along w/my personal experiences on psych meds, I began 2 realize that mental health conditions r ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES (NOT CHEMICAL IMBALANCES). In other words; it primarily has 2 do w/ur surrounding atmosphere (especially when it involves abuse, bullying, & harassment committed against an individual by other people). Also; conflict plays a major role. Have psych meds ever addressed & resolved those a4mentioned triggers? No; nvr have & they nvr will.

[@Skoopyghost]

PDD-NOS here, I mask who I am, and I get better. I am myself, and I get worse. All I did be eccentric as Hell, and I stopped caring about opinions.

[@krystle8534]

Millions

[@BJJEspanol-nq6kk]

Lol I was diagnosed with depression. Or maybe I was understandably sad once? Not a real thing!

[@bobjary9382]

I am so glad I've found this lecture again , I was stunned when I first heard it but was unable to refer friends bc I'd not saved it . It is so completely outrageous that it boggles the mind. Full respect to Davies for such a well delivered important piece of work

[@julestielens6988]

As a psychiatrist for 25 years care for complex patients I completely agree.

[@Skoopyghost]

Drug addict here. I don't like it that it's only talking about drugs not causing a high instead of how alcoholism works. It's not the substance. It's the person addicted.

[@dreamznaspiratons7064]

Do you encounter disasociative identity disorder a lot and is it often misdiagnosed as psychosis?

[@mikesmith8313]

You pay to listen this weasel getting paid to discredit science, a social anthropogist, this is nothing to do with a scientific profession.

[@axelf4515]

Surprise ! almost everything we knew about the world is wrong.

[@jimb2654]

I suspect there is a money angle to this as well. If it is a "documented" disorder, you can charge an insurance company for treatment. Medicine is a business and one can make more money by charging more patient issues to the insurance company..

[@laulaja-7186]

VERY true. That’s exactly how it was explained to me once: “If we don’t start labelling you with something from the beginning (even though we aren’t sure yet and need more sessions) your insurance isn’t going to cover it.”

[@InitiallyNO]

There is no excuse for enslaving humans as laboratory animals, especially when the population has the gall to call this 'care' and label those enslaved as 'consumers.'

[@elisabethandersen1102]

I love your work, Initially NO! ;)

[@marypoole6064]

Dismantle the DSM Bible !!!

[@chino2037]

Psychiatry is a business. I’m not sure why anyone is surprised about this.

[@Skoopyghost]

Cancer too. You can prevent cancer through diet and life style. I think Sigmund's work is only valid. Psychiatry just proves that people don't history, and they really should. I am not a psychiatrist though.

[@SeanConneryPimpShlap]

People are surprised by it because psychiatry presents itself as a legitimate medical science, equivalent to, say, cardiology. And it's not.

[@intarsienschrankzwetschgen4224]

The DSM has earned its place in the bookshelf right next to "Dianetics".

[@azsunburns]

Lol well said

[@gillpelage]

That's a brilliant statement!

[@ChristinaChrisR]

Ha! Seems like it, yes. 😂

[@ilfautdanser9121]

Tom Cruise says, "yeah, I told you so! oh wait."

[@catwoman7462]

Both in the fiction section. Or filed under 'cults' 🤔

[@elenapacha3139]

Psychiatry is a sect!

[@karensalmon7542]

This guy should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Price, what he is doing is revolutionary and brave.

[@katieandnick4113]

Too bad the Nobel prize is a buncha BS as well.

[@karensalmon7542]

True, true

[@johnherbert9849]

The problem is that there are millions of people many young children who are subject to obligatory medical protocols by psychiatrists with no fondation whatever. Thank you Dr Davids. I am one who is forcibly drugged that l consider torture.

[@kelvinlord8452]

Best wishes for ever along with all else that is truly good including logic and best quality information , understanding and love .

[@matthewatwood8641]

I refused to take it starting when I was 16. My parents made me a ward of the state, I spent a year going through a program called vision quest that was really for kids with felonies, but then I was free. I've never taken any psych meds since. I thank God everyday that I did that. I should have run away from home when I was 14.

[@ethicsexistentialism4191]

@@matthewatwood8641 bless you 🙏

[@bobjary9382]

​@@matthewatwood8641 this is the problem , bc its the legal accepted intervention anone going against that model is in big ttouble

[@matthewatwood8641]

@@bobjary9382 I know. I believe John Money had a lot to do with establishing it as legitimate.

[@Bozewani]

psychiatric survivor here HEALING from psychology is worse than the disease

[@silentumexcubitor6747]

Psychiatry and psychology really are different. Psychiatry is the worse pseudoscience.

[@elisabethandersen1102]

Another survivor here, keep on fighting!

[@kelvinlord8452]

There needs to be more top quality talking therapy available for everyone who needs it .

[@laulaja-7186]

On the ordinary level… that’s the awesome (and healthy!) thing about having friends. On the level of having affordable access to PhD level expert counselling… maybe that’s too much to hope for in life.

[@silentumexcubitor6747]

Thank-you, Dr. Davies! I'm sorry your talk has not had a MUCH wider viewing....

[@fastfoodfinderdave4024]

Thank you for writing the book, Sedated, How Modern Capitalism Created Our Mental Health Crisis. I totally agree with every line of the book. As an Iranian woman who found herself homeless blowing the whistles on children sexual abuse by her relatives post petit mal, complex, and grand mal seizures and brain surgery to remove a right temporal lobe brain tumor. I became a perfect victim of crime of psychiatry. Gang crime of psychiatry. I was lured into my first psychiatric hospital six months after my brain surgery and in America and in November of 1985 and I immigrated to America on January 2, 1978. Fast Food Finder Dave is my roommate. Thank you for doing so well by so many victims. Tears of Joy. My name is Behnaz Safavi. I just want to add that people like I find themselves dragged back into psychiatric hospitals by the infamous sexual harasser for cop and then judge Paul Raleeh by Emergency Psychiatric Evaluation which is a problem of its own.

[@bellakrinkle9381]

The problem is in the reality that psychiatrists believed that their training was based on experience; most is theoretical. Most all science seems to be based on theory not reality! The entire practice of Psychiatry needs to tossed out, deconstructed, and redone.

[@saileshkumarragoo1591]

It is sad to hear that psychiatric diagnosis are arbitrarily allocated to to patients

[@krystle8534]

Absolutely unbelievable. Thank you for an explanation of the complete madness that's been unfolding.

[@Paul-Pixton]

Thank you for standing up and being brave. We can do with a lot more people like you😊. We all need to wake up😊

[@josefineeck8010]

so upsetting to hear this...

[@dreamznaspiratons7064]

Thank you so so much for all of you guys do. We need to change policies. There has to be a movement. I would like to interview any of you interested in wider activism or sharing your stories or knowledge. This needs to be taught in all hospitals and schools

[@Earthsuitlife]

I always knew this and now you give me proof. Thank you so much for following through and getting down to the nitty gritty.

[@linden5165]

There are huge issues around the western-centric view too. Is that norm even the healthiest? I doubt it, it's very repressed. DSM categories are highly individualised and take a person out of the context of their family, society, history which makes no sense whatsoever. As an indigenous person there are things about my way of being that are very pathologised under western medicine, but totally normal and supported in my native culture. Guess which one has supported my wellbeing best. I have seen DSM contributors discuss communities of neurodivergent people with nothing short of utter arrogance and a frightening lack of insight and compassion.

[@krystle8534]

Agree, there is no holistic thinking whatsoever in psychiatry, which is why there is no real understanding of the causes for peoples problems and suffering.

[@bellakrinkle9381]

Yes, people do have similar symptoms which assists in the type of treatment received. However, each person became Ill due to different problematic issues, based on their genetic makeup and intrafamilial dysfunction. Pharmaceuticals may assist some people, however, my experience revealed that anti depressants only mask symptoms as long as the individual continues to pretend that all is good. Psychoanalysis in the 70s did NOT prescribe ANY pharmaceuticals. I believe that is no longer practiced, yet I don't know. Overcoming childhood abuse, or childhood emotional abuse (as in my case) takes a VERY long time. There may be chemical reasons for DEPRESSION, but after completing my recovery all symptoms of Depression vanished! Depression is the result of conflicting ideas in our minds - Cognitive Dissonance, one could say. All psychological (90%) dysfunction is rooted in dysfunctional childhoods. Generational dysfunction is passed on an on and on. Very few families are treated, hence, all emotional problems continue. IF Anything were to be changed, FAMILIES would be treated during the years of their children's early years. Neurotic parents/children only have a life of hell to expect from life! This is the truth, based on my experience.

[@aliceinwonder8978]

Very important lecture. Unfortunately im required to diagnose to get reimbursed by insurance companies. Ironically a lot of counselors aren't taking insurance anymore, not cuz they dislike the system, but cuz they are just too annoying to deal with as they try to get out of paying every chance they get. Either way it hurts the client

[@OurDuty]

This is astounding. A wonderful presentation that goes a long way to explaining the explosion in the diagnosis of 'gender dysphoria' once it had been added to DSM V.

[@berbudy]

25:29 so basically the field itself is the disorder haha

[@faceoftheearth1311]

It would have been interesting to hear the diagnosis that had been most descriptive of this group of quasi psychiatrists. Grandiose delusions / "Delusions of Grandeur" ?!

[@Sateay]

How can patients fight back? Can patients bring legal actions against the Mental Health Systems?

[@davidregi7571]

No man...

[@Sateay]

@@davidregi7571 Are you serious?

[@Native722]

Their is parients bill of rights. Meaning you have the right to refuse treatment, you have a right to refuse medication, you have to right to en treatment at anytime without consequences. You can't report them to patience rights advocacyngroup and also take legal action.

[@Native722]

*Can report to patience right servicing group

[@Sateay]

@@Native722 I can assure you that I did many times to no avail. They nearly killed me due to forced medication claiming that I was Bipolar and Schizophrenic and Manic and other nonsense. I'm not. The Patients Bill of Rights was given to me. I gave my complaints continuously and they did absolutely nothing. I would have to sue the entire State Medical Board. Trying to find the funding to do just that. I found a lawyer who will help litigate, but, refuse to work under contingency. Do you know any non-profits who will help pay for my legal expenses and my lawyer?

[@SarahStarmer]

My KZbin channel has been inundated by videos about narcissism. These videos are so ridiculous that they caused me to lose faith in a lot of psychiatric diagnoses that I used to accept as scientific and proven to exist. Take psychopathy, for example, is that a real diagnosis or just a label that can be attached to people you don't like.

[@BadgerBotherer1]

Psychopathy is real, but there is a tendency to overuse the term once you have some idea what it is.

[@lyubomirgizdarski8191]

Excellent lecture!

[@andofeverything]

Priceless!

[@beebalmbadil]

Oh, to be in the future, taking a history class on the epidemic of groupthink that led to the medicalization of existence at the beginning of the 21st century, deeply relieved to not have been born yet then

[@judyrandall9756]

Thank you! Right on!

[@HealthandWealthDad]

Wow the DSM is truly wild and I feel most psychiatric problems can be addressed with psilocybin and meditation

[@doc2590]

I wish more people would learn how to simply watch their thoughts and know they are not real, and we really don't know where they come from and why. Simply watching those thoughts is enough to change how you feel. If a person can learn to do this, they may not need medication with side effects to calm down.

[@airmark02]

*$* Psychiatric ~ Careerism ~ Disorder *$*

[@sizzla123]

Good info

[@Rainb0wSeven]

The biggest red flag about the validity - or lack thereof - of the DSM was when homosexual attraction was removed as a disorder.

[@iamthenews5624]

Agreement does not mean scientific proof

[@doc2590]

I think about one in a thousand is truly psychotic and a danger to themselves and others and need to be hospitalised. 99% can live normal lives if they learn how to simply watch there thoughts and know thoughts are simply fantoms that pop in and out of existence in our mind, and when we learn to ignore them we feel much better.

[@wildopeneye1634]

Wow!

[@jarrodclyne707]

The pathologizing and diagnositic framework is complete nonsense.

[@clausdamsgaard]

What are you asking? 1) work, 2) money, 3) talk, 4) what you cannot be forced into, that is illegal if you don't want it, 5) leaving, 6) illegal file system erased.

[@flerma223]

People aren't their behavior or thinking.

[@43painter]

I watched this video a couple of yrs ago and whenever I read or hear about 'Autism' or 'ADHD' etc I think of this talk of this dr. : The group of ppl who formed the 'commission' who "improved" / adjusted DSM 3 - 5 all had financial ties with Big Pharma. So were certain mental / fysical conditions created to favour the business model of big pharma ?

[@theauklet]

There are very few "mental disorders" that clearly seem organic (some surely are.) But there are HUNDREDS of behavioral patterns that are dysfunctional, uncomfortable, annoying or criminal - and most of the DSM is just a way for therapists, psychiatrists and facilities to get paid for dealing with them - or attempting to.

[@jimvanderwal8631]

geil ding, Jess!

[@Native722]

Dsm is a joke

[@johnrolle6645]

Professor Andrew Nathan of Columbia University was interviewed on a news program called World Focus and makes allusions to this subject matter.

[@mookie2637]

It's difficult not to feel some sympathy for Spitzer, who, to his credit, was very candid about much of this. In trying to tackle one legitimacy crisis for the profession in the 70s, DSM3 created the seeds of another. The missing piece of the historical puzzle for me is the "field research" which apparently led to the "operational definitions".

[@clausdamsgaard]

The suffering part so far is subject to misinterpretation.

[@rumblequixote8841]

Well, at least we know who to be pissed off at. Is the death penalty too severe in this case?

[@user-gk3os9gl7b]

This big mistake wat American laid to me for long time and they still here at my house waching me don't have room they shooting at me taking my pictures report me to congress peopl and block my futur I can't go forward sad peopl

[@iamthenews5624]

Trans

[@azsunburns]

Bingo

[@azsunburns]

Bingo

[@markroe7541]

Follow the money and who benifits

[@everlastingrainbows]

Psychiatry is useless! As for evidence-based medicine or psychiatry, come again! Only money-making clowns while harming their patients.

[@bpggg]

So which ones are "actual" psychiatric disorders? Does schizophrenia have biological markers? Does Bipolar Disorder? No, but are they real and helped by psychiatric medication. Just because the markers are not available yet does not mean they won't be in the future. Sir, when anti-seizure medication is given to many bipolar patients (including the bipolar 2 disorder you sneer at) they achieve greater stabilization in mood and in many cases lifted out of psychotic states. Suggests biology. Would you talk someone out of a seizure? Ever heard of Scientology? Are you with them? I beg anyone who reads this to check their beliefs and see the hostility they have for psychiatry. There are abuses in the mental health field but mental illness (yes, actual illness) exists and have physical foundations. Biology, sociology, and psychology interact. Of course you know better but I believe you wrote a book didn't you? Hopefully you'll make a tidy profit off it's sales. All part of your crusade to "save" people from psychiatric treatment. People not getting treatment is your goal after all.

[@silentumexcubitor6747]

Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drugs racket, and a means of social control. It's 21st Century Phrenology with potent neuro-toxins. Psychiatry has done, and continues to do far more harm than good. So-called "mental illnesses" are exactly as "real" as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. The DSM-5 is nothing more than a catalog of billing codes. ALL of the bogus, so-called "diagnoses" in it were invented, not discovered.

[@silentumexcubitor6747]

BTW, so-called "Scientology" is just as BOGUS as psychiatry, but at least they don't PUSH DRUGS....

[@Neilgs]

"Sir, when anti-seizure medication is given to many bipolar patients (including the bipolar 2 disorder you sneer at)they achieve greater stabilization in mood and in many cases lifted out of psychotic states." Correction what they achieve is a resplendent homeostasis of robotized existence and a damaged brain with respect to pre and postsynaptic neurons. It is not that "disorders" do not exist, it is that there is very few biologically based evidence for the vast 95%++ of the fictionalized labels (e.g., dopamine excess or serotonin deficiencies)that then become the PLAYPEN of Phrama! Psychotherapy rather than medicalization bears precious few dollars. It is EPIGENETICS that has a MUCH MORE CENTRAL ROLE in how the brain is wired! Along of course with external not biologically based chemical imbalances or endocrine disruptors (biophenes, neurotoxins, etc)

[@archiesimpson5172]

Being against psychiatry does not make one a Scientologist. That's called a false correlation. I am a pagan who is against psychiatry, and for very different reasons than Scientologists are. In their case it's because it's a competing institution.

[@mohsingillani8253]

I think it's important to point out that things like mania and hallucinations are real. But my problem as a patient was the intense secrecy of the harms of these medications. In addition to that, there are so many ways to manipulate dopamine and serotonin and even deal with hallucinations and delusions. You can deal with these problems naturally and when you are in the public hospitals they don't emphasize these methods because there is no money to be made through them. If depressed people were told to support the maintenance of the hormones Serotonin and Melatonin through sunshine, exercise and sleep, there would be less money for drug companies and thus the government. The drugs do have some benefit in certain scenario's but the way they are being used there is a lot of abuse of patients involved. Psychiatry is greedy and they oversimplify and isolate these problems to the science of chemistry. Here's a drug and you have a life sentence of hopelessness. It's the biggest lie and to destroy someones hope is so cruel. That's the problem. If you start opening the doors of alternative therapy there would be a revolution and big pharma knows that. A major income source for a lot of governments would be lost. My suggestion to anyone suffering from being disturbed (I call these Psychiatric states being disturbed and not mental illnesses), is to take an educated approach to coming out of them and get the support you need and give yourself time. Learn different sciences. Learn about love. Learn about holistic health and don't let people take advantage of you because there are solutions. I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and haven't had an episode in years. Don't trust people so easily because money can be used for evil too. I'm not against Psychiatry nor am I with it because of its current condition. I am against the extremes. Some of the medications are excellent if used in the right way. A lot of people died with Bipolar Disorder before lithium so we need to be grateful. But this industry has a bit of corruption and is a bit dirty and needs to be cleaned up.