Dr. Sandal Reacts to Ren's "Troubles"

Join Dr. Neela Sandal, our expert in Functional and Integrative Medicine, as he dives deep into Ren's "Troubles." With a unique medical perspective, Dr. Sandal explores the powerful messages within this song, unpacking the emotional, psychological, and physiological layers that resonate with so many. Whether you're a fan of Ren or interested in holistic health, this reaction is sure to offer a fresh, insightful take on the music and its impact.
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[@amyl9864]

He has 8 Chapters on his Renmakesstuff channel that goes into detail of this time for him - this song is a great summary but the Chapters really show you the life he had.

[@jeffwilson3205]

Yeah…I’d love you to watch and react to the chapters.

[@AnneBiebrich]

Yes your reactions to each of these chapters would be wonderful

[@Musiklife.9049]

Agree, also shows the lads humour, which he hasn’t lost, thank goodness. ❤

[@denalinde]

I’d be super interested in what a doctor with your background would say about the ways Ren tried to find answers and possibly why some things worked and some made things extremely worse. 💜

[@Thomas.Saunders]

Thank you for taking the time to take Ren seriously enough to listen to what he has to say. He truly is speaking for thousands of individuals who don't have a platform. Chronic pain drains all joy from life leaving us wishing only for an end to the suffering.

[@Jason_xofilos]

Ren has communicated that songs are not entertainment. They can be entertaining but he puts them out not only to support himself but to reach those living in the dark and/or living with difficult chronic health conditions, problems, and challenges.

[@beverlywest7627]

Ren's song brought me to your channel, I don't suffer from any of these problems myself, yet I am drawn to Ren's music and messages, he is so talented and speaks about other issues through his music .

[@iamsquatty]

I just wanna give big props to Eliza. She has consistently asked for suggestions and feedback about the videos she edits for yall in the facebook group, she is super sweet, and shes doing a great job. Plus she is our renegade on the insisde 😂😘😘💜

[@jorice5528]

Here here!! Thank You Eliza ❤

[@TheAtmaMD]

Hi! (It’s me Eliza 😊) THANK YOU!! Your support is so very appreciated!

[@woodywoodman2319]

​@TheAtmaMD No Miss... thank You, for how you convinced the "Doctors" to do this!!! Don't think you realize just how much these videos are appreciated! Whether or not we think they're the ones behind the pig masks or not... it's actually seeing them listen... and hearing them discuss what is almost Always never "Heard" from us patients... that's breaking the fourth wall digitally so-to-speak! Lol Alot of Ren fans believe the whole "Doctors only know Money" thing! If it were up to me... I'd Insist All wanna be Doctors be required to watch Rens 8 chapters!!!

[@helenjarvis7755]

Ren is very intelligent and eventually researched his own path to a Doctor who diagnosed Lyme disease after 7 years without diagnoses He later got offered the stem cell transplant Around this time he had a some very strong allergic reactions to foods certain medicine etc and nearly died due to anaphylaxic Shock a couple of times He was able to get back to making music working out etc for a few years after stem cell treatment He started to get ill again loose weight only a handful of foods were safe He found his doctor in Calgary and they diagnosed the brain and nerve damage MCAS and POTS and made treatments around Ren including surgery to heal build him up and treat the bacterial issues Because Ren's music blew up just after moving to Calgary his treatments ended up taking 18 months He finished end of June He gives very detailed insight into all this and more in Chapters which are linked to this song release

[@RudyB-l8h]

Ren is back in the UK and enjoying his life now. He’s not completely healed but it’s great to see him smile & participate in life again. I enjoy your positivity.

[@TheAtmaMD]

It sounds like he’s going worked hard to get there! That’s great to hear.

[@Shiroar]

With great power comes great responsibility, and Ren is truly a hero! He is using his growing powers and platform for so much more than simply creating brilliant music. Ren has said that he always had this feeling that he was meant to change the world for the better. So much that he defiantly yelled a challenge to evil into an empty room. And then he got sick… Ren has now shared the full story of his health journey in 8 video chapters leading up to the release of this song and what a journey it has been. If anyone hasn’t already watched them, I highly recommend you do. With all the chapters he is showing immense strength in sharing his story that is so hard to tell, being vulnerable and telling it because he hopes it will help others and raise awareness. And here he is with another rendition of that story, now told through music with a fire beat and delivering a message of hope. There’s a beautiful acoustic version too. The world needs Ren 🐰🕳️

[@MikeNeilson-i4x]

Well said couldn’t agree more

[@FaerieCastle]

Another wonderful reaction. I enjoy hearing your perspective on these! I would suggest Seven Sins and Dominoes for more thought provoking reactions!

[@TheAtmaMD]

Great suggestion! Thanks for watching.

[@MikeNeilson-i4x]

As you continue on this Ren journey you’ll find that Ren has incredible insight into the systems in which we live. Like you said it is going to take an incredible amount of out of the box thinking from all of us to make the changes that benefit humanity. We must not continue doing the things that the systems dictate us to do,if we do it might end badly and may anyway. REN’s music gives me hope that if enough people hear his messages change for humanity is possible. Great reaction please keep it up.

[@TheAtmaMD]

Thanks for watching! Hope is important! We just have to keep spreading this awareness!

[@Prime_Mover2112]

I really have enjoyed your insight into Ren’s music, it really seems like it’s resonating with you as well. I’ve checked out other content on your channel as well, a lot of really great stuff here. I would recommend other folks check it out as well. Another great job, hopefully we get to see more, thank you!

[@TheAtmaMD]

I appreciate you checking out our other content. Please feel free to share anything you find beneficial to others, to help our channel grow!

[@Mogel-]

I really like that you share your input from a medical perspective. Super interesting reaction! Thanks!

[@TheAtmaMD]

Thank you for watching!

[@kellyt5341]

Ren has a video of them using a tube and sucking out his fat (he had so little fat, they had to do some serious digging). They processed his own stem cells and fed them back into his body via IV. The process including trying to get some nourishment in his body was a 6-week procedure.

[@crackednut78]

Thank you for mentioning that doctors need to look at the whole individual. I have several autoimmune diseases that intertwine with each other as well as depression and anxiety thrown into the mix. Sounds fun right lol. I fortunately found a fantastic doctor that didn't dismiss some symptoms and only treated others. He said what I don't know about some issues I will study up on them to better help you, GOLD! loved your reaction❤

[@TheAtmaMD]

@@crackednut78 I’m glad you found that kind of Doctor! Happy healing!

[@PoliticallyPink]

Can you turn the audio up on the video? It was easy to hear you, not easy to hear the vid. THANK YOU for doing another REN!

[@TheAtmaMD]

We will work on that. Thanks!

[@Lift_Eachother_Up]

❤ Yes I would absolutely love for you to cover his chapters, he talks about so many different treatments he has tried crazy ones like fecal transplant lots of herbs etc. metal even and you would be amazing to know why what etc.

[@TheAtmaMD]

That sounds very interesting.

[@Lift_Eachother_Up]

@@TheAtmaMD even maybe you would have ideas on how or if any of these contributed to all the brain damage he still receives treatment for. He recently left Canada after over a year of getting IV infusions and lots of medication. He does still need to return for more. Also how in the world did they not test for Lyme disease or any of the "specialists" cross their minds in 8 years while it was running rampid in his system. Crazy. And to tell him that he's making this up in his head.

[@LisaD-1969]

Agreed!

[@woodywoodman2319]

RENegades support Eliza getting a Massive Raise!!! 😊

[@mldkenny]

The song is a classic, given, but your reaction and insight were wonderful and so enjoyed your professional perspective. Thank you.

[@TheAtmaMD]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for watching!

[@MisssNL...]

Like to see your reaction on this interview Ren - one million subscribers

[@lauralittle1970]

Thank you. I am one of those people who are stuck in the medical system by Doctors narrow focus. It is how I found Ren and relate to him. He inspires me to keep going. Thank you for speaking out for Patients and Doctors! ❤

[@TheAtmaMD]

If you’re in the states we offer free 30 minute consultations at Atma Clinic. We would be happy to try and point you in the right direction!

[@woodywoodman2319]

​@@TheAtmaMDeven out of state people???

[@TheAtmaMD]

@@woodywoodman2319 yes! Give us a call on Monday and we can chat more about it :)

[@debrashrider4062]

Yes the Chapters I too reccomend. All have an apropriate music video tacked at its end. Except number 8. This song is the video Ren released as chapter 8 ended.

[@NoraMorgan]

So true about the time doctors spend with their patients. I blame the whole insurance thing. I went from 13 to 33 with doctors misdiagnosing me. Until one day I saw a psychiatrist for a few months(not a psychologist which is crazy). He actually took the time and really listened and I finally got a correct diagnosis. He’s my hero. The way medical care is now, I feel I’d have better care by Googling my problems. Like I said, I don’t necessarily blame the doctors.

[@independentinstallations8419]

Loved your reaction! I imagine becoming a great Doctor is really no different than becoming a great plumber or electrician. It's alot more to memorize in the education but in the end it comes down to the experiences you've lived and how easily you can adapt to the unknowns. I loved how you said we are practicing medicine and keeping that mentality will keep you from becoming egotistical and closed minded. The trades have really hurt themselves by trying to compartmentalize everything into specialized fields making peoples training hyper focused on one specific topic often at the expense of understanding how everything works together. These "jack of all trades" types of contractors especially the ones with a real sense of pride in their work are the most valuable type of person to any field.

[@TheAtmaMD]

I couldn’t agree more! Thank you for being here.

[@jenyf_]

Be your own best advocate, and don't give up. 😊

[@peterveste6976]

Thank you Rens Art helped me heal so glad I found your channel you Sir are a ggog man sending big love from the UK subscribed ❤❤❤

[@hollyryalsgrubb1273]

Using the body's wisdom is an enlightening concept; I've learned something new today.

[@lorriredmon8212]

I love and agree with all of your comments. It's individual treatment not a one size fits all kind of thing. I have MS and all my Dr wants, is to pump me full of Disease modifying drugs. While I see that they may be great and work for some, they're not for me. For many reasons. The trouble is, this Dr is all about the meds and nothing about the human. Ren is a genius who has also been through the mill and come out the other side with the strongest mind and ability to share with others who "get" him. Great reaction, great song! Thank you!

[@TheAtmaMD]

Doctors HAVE to remember that you are an individual. I hope you find a Doctor that listens.

[@petersilie8549]

Thanx for the reaction and of course to Eliza 😉

[@marydostal9189]

I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia about 10 years ago. My last two doctors told me that wasn’t even a real thing and it’s just a made up complaint for people wanting drugs. I sat in my car after both appointments and just cried. It was devastating and still haunts all my medical interactions.

[@TheAtmaMD]

@@marydostal9189 I’m so sorry that was your experience.

[@staceyjayneplatt9527]

Love your reactions to my fellow Brit REN !! Please watch his chapters 🙏🙏🙏🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@SandraP3796]

I damaged my right arm 15 years ago getting tennis elbow and then the muscles and tendons snapped off while squeezing out a cloth and they were lying on the nerve of my forearm. It took 2 years, 4 surgeries, chronic pain until a doctor found the nerve damage. He reattached the muscles and tendons but my forearm is numb and I still have severe chronic pain. My whole life changed for the worse. I got depression from being in pain all the time. I then had a PT who caused me to have a neck fusion. Since then I’ve had more than 6 major surgeries and each time I get chronic pain. I now have 3 herniated disc’s and problems with my SI joint. Now there’s other problems that have decided to have chronic pain too 😢. I’m getting care and medication from my pain management doctor. Living with constant pain is hard. Ren has made me feel happier since I heard him 18 months ago. He has given me some Hope. Thank you for your interesting reaction.

[@seth1455]

I like the song and loved the discussion, thanks

[@TheAtmaMD]

Thanks for watching!

[@nancys9698]

Thank You for explaining your view points it takes all of us to play our part in coming up with solutions To better our health!

[@miatigerstrom7364]

Thank you for another great Ren reaction! ❤ I like your other videos as well. You're a great inspiration! I wish there were more doctors in holistic medicine than there are today. Keep up the good work!💪❤️

[@jeffmartin_UK]

Thank you for a great Ren reaction. I really look forward to seeing more. Oh I would really like to suggest that you also react to some of "Twenty one Pilots" songs "Car Radio" would be a great one to try. I think you will find them very interesting. 😁

[@bkkidd2112]

You might also really enjoy Ren's money game series as well. Tha ks for your thoughts on this piece and also the challenges of health care

[@MetalRocksMe.]

I’ve multiple sclerosis since I was 22 and I’ve learnt that whatever I suffer with it is totally different to what another person with MS experiences. There different variations.

[@patrickrojas8514]

❤👏👏

[@dmasters1970]

Great reaction! New sub from me. ❤ from D in the UK 🇬🇧 btw love your ethos.

[@TheAtmaMD]

Thanks for subbing!

[@pirada74]

❤

[@PyxieLynx]

Here here 👏

[@Dazkil]

Great reaction.

[@becks1483]

I really appreciate your passion for mental health. Personally i have a laundry list of mental and physical ailments. My first listen was Hi Ren like most, and i feel the best place to start. Thats when i first fell in love with Ren's art. In itself Hi Ren is aww inspiring for me, but then heard more and was floored. Ren is an inspiration to me! I picked up the guitar again and set up a home studio, then started creating beats with close attention to being real and unique to my heart. Its amzing to me that Ren could help give me hope and try and live again. If you would keep Ren in your playlist I would be grateful. 😊

[@TheAtmaMD]

We will create a playlist! Great idea. I hope you were able to see my reaction to Hi Ren as well! That was my first Ren reaction.

[@becks1483]

@@TheAtmaMD I'll go watch it, thank you!

[@rebeldarlin7]

Practice has disappeared because they are constrained by insurance companies and the data collection systems put in place called "progress". My last PCP, who I saw for 2 years spent the entire visit typing on a laptop and reading me my test results. My last visit, he happened to come up behind me as I was leaving and in a shocked voice asked me how long I had been limping and walking half bent over. He never noticed... turned out I have osteo arthritis in both hips and my spine and 5 stress fractures in my lumbar spine. This after 2 years of telling him every visit that I was in constant pain. He did want to put me on anti depressants, but I refused those.

[@TheAtmaMD]

This is an example we hear far too often. I hope you were able to find a great provider.

[@toniyoung5131]

You're the second doctor I've heard in the past couple of days to mention the practise element of medicine. More practice and less following the official script may help more patients.

[@GabeHornne]

Happy to see you continue down the ren rabbit hole. You should check out his song su..ic...ide (sorry didnt want it tonget taken down) its a tough one

[@sanoraray]

After many years of dealing with drs for many conditions, including EDS, POTS, and Chiari, I have not seen one in a year since mine retired. I've had medical induced ptsd and can't stand being talked down to. I'm fairly intelligent and have researched my body to understand it for 25 years and refuse to be told not to. I'm a strong believer that my body is the machine, my brain is the computer, and it will figure itself out if you allow it to. Dr's have told me I have issues because I won't take the meds. Sorry, my body built this thing. I'm sure it knows how to run it. I need a mechanic, not someone who wants to reinvent the damn car. Anyways. Great reaction. Sorry it hit a nerve.

[@TheAtmaMD]

Doctors who are against you doing your own research are a red flag. Thank you for watching! I would be happy to offer you a free 30 minute consultation at Atma Clinic, it you’re looking for a medical provider. We are located in Lawrence, KS, but we see people from all over the country.

[@sanoraray]

@TheAtmaMD I actually would like to take you up on that. I'm in the U.P. of Michigan and options here are limited and I really liked what you had to say on the video.

[@TheAtmaMD]

@@sanoraray Great! Our website is linked in our bio. We would be happy to chat with you!

[@rveino2978]

🔥❤️🔥

[@sanoraray]

❤❤❤❤

[@EarthyBlendPOV]

You’re doing good work Doc!

[@aura81295]

The insurance model you mentioned also limits access to resources. It's not so simple for people with little to be able to go see someone else as you suggest. It's a money game - a trilogy (Money Game Part I, II, and III) that Ren also did which looks more at the root of the problem - cultural sickness maybe?

[@Olga-os8sb]

Ren❤❤❤

[@bonnieg4768]

Thanks for this. Very informative and insightful.

[@TheAtmaMD]

Glad it was helpful!

[@thomassnell5119]

If it were only that easy to get second opinions. In Ontario Canada,anyway, finding a family Doctor is very difficult and people that have one are lucky…many many people don’t. If you get sick and you doctor cannot see you for a month, your option is Emergency department at the hospital…even though it is not an ER warranted condition. If you go to a clinic your family Dr can deroster you as a patient. Then what do you do. It is very hard to stand up for yourself…and when you don’t, a note is put on the part of your file you don’t get to see and you are labelled difficult/trouble maker. Throw in mental health such as depression and your care falls off exponentially.

[@PoliticallyPink]

Hey, you kept referring to "this experience" but I didn't have a clue what experience you were talking about. Did you mean the condition of having general "troubles"? Or physical sickness?

[@francesdoll4039]

Not a Moby track. He paid for the original 1930s track that Moby also used. Can't think of original artist right now! Also stem cells saved his lufe but also made his allergies worse and maybe some other autoimmune stuff. He can only eat about 7 or 8 foods. He has MCAS and POTS and others.

[@helenjarvis7755]

Vera Hall

[@FaithHill251]

fibro is not a neuro condition.its an auto immune one.

[@alvargoo]

If we could make medical college free to oversaturate the medical world with professionals collaboration and a universal medical record system for real time data mining. I guarantee that with universal coverage would help so many more. The care economy after automation will be humanities highest purpose

[@maggieharris6935]

Because of Ren I am being tested for MCAS and am also taking histamine blockers. I do have a question how do I get a doctor to look past my Cerebral palsy and Mitral valve prolapse? Most doctors seem to always blame the CP or MVP.

[@TheAtmaMD]

Hi! (Eliza here) I will pass the message on to Doc and get back to you. He just left for vacation, but I’m sure he will be happy to answer when he gets back.

[@SickBoiRENegade]

A rising tide lifts all ships❤🫶Ren is such a gift!

[@KimWilliams-xn2tl]

Greed

[@alc6329]

❤❤❤