Dr Zudhi Jasser argues that Islam needs reform as its current form does not fit with democracy 3/8

[@maxsever83]

Oxford should rename itself to the Islamists University of England.

[@VarunSarathy]

Why? This speaker just received a huge round of applause and widespread acclaim!

[@Abdulhayeeonlinestudy]

Why

[@Curiouzzz750]

@@VarunSarathy From who ? The ignorant

[@mrbharatiya1541]

I may not agree with him but he should have the right to speak. For that you should proud of if you're a brit don't get influenced by islamic ideology.. either my way or my way😊

[@indosanct-rn9sr]

@@Curiouzzz750 ignorant of what? you mean oxford students should support pedopphilia and stoning?

[@tasmanndrive]

What Muslim majority country would allow Dr Zuhdi Jasser to make this speech, without being severely punished. None

[@louisdeniau8571]

which christian country would let you make this speech about christianity? none

[@tasmanndrive]

@@louisdeniau8571 what are you talking about, are you saying the muslim world has the same level of free speech as say USA Canada and Europe, thats delusional

[@superbad3591]

Literally every Christian country in the world would allow it​@louisdeniau8571

[@3brenm]

​​​@@louisdeniau8571 erm, you can literally criticize Christianity all you like in the West. We've been doing it for centuries now.

[@LabibKhan2024]

@@tasmanndrive The West is secular which is good, they are not Christian countries. Also there are many completely secular muslim majority nations such as Indonesia, Turkey, Malaysia, Albania, Kosovo (if you recognise), Bosnia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Bangladesh (secular government but has an official religion), Algeria, Tunisia, Senegal, Chad, Mali and a couple more if you do some more research. Very few, only a couple muslim countries have Sharia law, because it is important to realise a sin is not a crime.

[@Travellhubber]

Islam can never go aligning with the modern democracy 😑

[@Larsbor]

10:24 Why cant Muslims change and choose a peacefull religion as Hinduism, Buddism or some other peacefull religion, it would solve many problems!

[@newsocial1658]

Peaceful as Hinduism ? You comedy me Saar ?😂 I don’t think you been to India

[@RepistMuhamad]

Because of a Redical Book

[@akhiljayachandran3679]

​​@@newsocial1658If Hinduism was oppressive then minority population would have reduced like Pakistan and Bangladesh. But minority population growth rate is higher than Hindus. Hence proved there is no systemic oppression in India.

[@nick-l4o2z]

​@@newsocial1658why does muslim got an issue ubiquitous?

[@harsh6764]

​@newsocial1658 Hinduism is peaceful since thousands of years. Notice how it's always religion vs Islam wherever Islam follows. Hindus vs Muslims jews vs Muslims Christians vs Muslim

[@3brenm]

"You're confusing authoritarian states with Islam" (from the audience member). I wish he'd tell that to all the Islamists and Islamic states instead of the actual reformers trying to do something about it.

[@TheCryptoOptimist]

Islan throughout the history has been super brutal. It will never change, such reformers would come and go, Islam will stay the same

[@FreeYourImagination]

​@@TheCryptoOptimist Islam was started by a war lord. That's in their DNA.

[@SAMMYMASIH-m7l]

Islam did not evolve, and sorry but there were Elon Musks in India and China at that time too. Arabic records show that most books were translated from India into Arabic. The prophet looted, raped and killed people who thought he was a joke which he was marrying a six year old girl. He was just a warlord khalifa who justified all his doings that Allah was telling him to do through Angel Gabrial. Prophets are men who have had divine experiences and which have been written down in extreme details. They are not a thin book where stories have been taken from other religions like the Jewish faith, Christianity, Zoroastrianism and the Pagan Arabic ancient faith and practices.

[@AC-mp7cx]

you know nothing "thin book", you are jealous, and can't even spell

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

Sure, but what did ISIS do that Mohammad didn’t?

[@ThePreparedMuslim]

@EmperorsNewWardrobe why don't you ask ChatGPT for an honest answer, if you actually want to see how ignorant you are.

[@websitemartian]

@@ThePreparedMuslimwhat muslim country did you flee from?

[@websitemartian]

@@ThePreparedMusliminfedel s3x slaves? thats in the quran do you know what "right hand possesses" means

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

@ThePreparedMuslim, and what’s your answer to my question?

[@websitemartian]

@@ThePreparedMuslim what muslim country did you flee from ?

[@BareKnucklePolemic]

He doesn't believe in capital punishment for apostasy (I fully appreciate that as an ex-Muslim), but he started out by saying he prays 5 times per day. Both of which comes from the same corpus. In fact, capital punishment is more defined than 5 daily prayers. Both of which contradicts the main scripture, which contradicts itself. This dude is totally lost. Eight minutes in, and he's already arguing against himself.

[@indosanct-rn9sr]

lol exactly

[@md802-b1d]

Isl*am and humanity are incompatible

[@checkfactschecking]

I suggest that you actually watch the video and listen to what he has to say. I'm an atheist and yet his speech was quite bang on and a solution to what we are facing today.

[@SAGAR_S_JADHAV]

commonsense is not islamophobic!

[@DinkanFollower]

Its no longer Oxford Union. Its Is.lamist union.

[@umar7182]

just because they allowed a muslim scholar to counter an argument in a debate session?

[@special.agent.JeffreySteeleFBI]

Guy is literally saying islam isn't compatible with democracy mister

[@meni2410]

No, because the Islamic influence on Oxford is just crazy and disastrous. You'll find out. ​@@special.agent.JeffreySteeleFBI

[@shivas9600]

​@@umar7182 i agree they should invite ex muslims

[@uc6115]

All that Qatari money.

[@shazadiqbal7800]

"i try to pray 5 times a day" thats enough to switch off

[@uc6115]

And your comment is enough to know that Islam will never work in democratic states.

[@Curiouzzz750]

Here's the dilemma, he follows Quranic scripture then narrates about reformation. How is that going to work when Islamic ideology and theology is aligned to fascism . I found him contradictory. Certain verses of doctrine need to be removed or reworded but that's not going to happen. He mentions how Muslims were pioneers of maths , medicine and science which is absolutely not true . They were Persian , Hindus , Greeks and Christians who lead the world for betterment through discoveries not Muslims per se . He should of thought prior to his spiel

[@MrYuvalf]

Why is Oxford Union not publishing the latest full debate regarding Israel?

[@Arunh9-pw7lp]

It already has.

[@andrew-x3n4r]

@@Arunh9-pw7lp ive just watched it and I was very concerned with the bias towards palestine

[@omar_ali_000]

This is a controversial but necessary speech on reform. From my understanding however, the only way to be a Muslim and hold this position is to state that the Quran and the hadith are products of their time and therefore a lot of it's guidance is outdated and should not be followed in the modern age. As he mentions, Christianity did go through this process, so it is possible, no matter how unlikely and bleak it seems at this stage of human history

[@nikky8466]

Outdated? I see no difference in the Quranic concept of electing a leader among the people to govern the community with the modern concept of democracy. The true word here is liberalism. The West is very secular and un-Christian. They hate their own religion while claiming to follow it. Calling it reformed. How can you be Christian and un-Christian at the same time? And why now they have problems with Islam? The Crusader Kingdoms acknowledged the contributions of medieval Muslims during the Islamic Golden Age. All those Greek and Arabic terms we use today in food, science, medicals, physics, chemistry, astronomy, all came from the translated and preserved texts. Greek texts, Indian mathematics and Chinese medical texts. Those brown people, the Persians and Arabs that they hated were the ones preserving and translating ancient knowledge. But I kind of agree with you since we no longer have prophets or representatives of God who were “ma`sum” or incorruptible. We literally have muslim leaders nowadays that purposely misquoted the Quran and the Quranic concept of governance for selfish purposes and personal gains. Just like what Netanyahu did to rile up the soldiers to k*ll “Amalek.” Same thing, different stuff. So the Caliphate system is no longer compatible since none of us are angels. So, religion and politics must not be mixed. Edit: And if western democracy is better, why so much chaos in the world? I’m talking about Western interference in foreign elections.

[@omar_ali_000]

@nikky8466 Islam professes to be an unimpeachable body of divine guidance that if you follow without deviation, you cannot question or vote against, so by definition it's undemocratic. So all it's toxic content denigrating non-muslims and the abhorrent war filled rhetoric can essentially become a command. And we've seen that play out globally. It's not about democracy being amazing, it's about the freedom it gives to everyone to have a voice and for a system to not fall into tyranny or totalitarianism, which is commonly the case with systems based on divine edicts.

[@omar_ali_000]

@@nikky8466Islam professes to be an unimpeachable body of divine guidance that you should follow without deviation, so you cannot question or vote against it, so by definition it's undemocratic. So all it's toxic content denigrating non-muslims and the abhorrent war filled rhetoric can essentially become a command. And we've seen that play out globally. It's not about democracy being amazing, it's about the freedom it gives to everyone to have a voice and for a system to not fall into tyranny or totalitarianism, which is commonly the case with systems based on divine edicts.

[@Curiouzzz750]

@@nikky8466 Wrong , you're talking through a Muslim perspective and propagation. Muslims created nothing . Islam ruled Persia but there was never a golden age of Islam

[@indosanct-rn9sr]

it will be possible only if so called moderate muslims focus on the problems instead of their justifications

[@benbsingh]

Why people are migrating to West from Islamic countries where no freedom/low education/factional fights/killing each other!!!

[@LayLoow]

Leaders in the Muslim world are corrupt

[@SS-dn1pu]

Their intention is to spread Islam every where. But foolishly europeans thought they are progressive and allowed these fellows as refugees . Now they are bearing the brunt of their barbarity

[@beats474]

Low education? Their literacy rates are higher than the west Palestine has one of the highest in the world

[@quotesdior686]

There's more Indians migrating to Canada, why?

[@shanunelson7161]

​@@quotesdior686most are Muslims

[@ShangTsung69]

Politics and religion should be separated… there is no democracy for any religion that enforces their rules on the masses

[@farawayfromyourcountry]

i agree, but please for goverment from christians majority country or atheist stop stole our land and oil and stop killing our people and colonize our land. leave us alone!!!

[@ThePreparedMuslim]

@@ShangTsung69 classic secular liberalism, which is by nature atheistic and claims all religions are the same. Take your atheist principles and live by them, and stop your secular jihad against the world. You and others like you enforce your atheistic religion on the world, not seeing the hypocrisy of it when you tell others not to enforce their own religions. So absurd.

[@ThePreparedMuslim]

@ShangTsung69 that applies to Israel and to your secular liberalism as well, which ironically is enforced on the unwilling masses all over the world, to their detriment.

[@ShangTsung69]

@@ThePreparedMuslim let it apply then, enough of putting profit first and different Gods first, its time we focus on earth and its inhabitants

[@VikingCrusaders]

@@ThePreparedMuslim stop failing and begging for European technology first

[@reallearner590]

Why is it such a big deal to be an ex-Muslim?

[@LabibKhan2024]

Hes not an ex-muslim

[@shyamprasad7362]

Coz as per sheria law apostasy will be punishable by death

[@indosanct-rn9sr]

because islam is insecure in a big way

[@kahumanu5022]

Oxford union- Islamic propaganda tool, what a sad end.

[@gavriloprincip11]

......and how may hundreds of verses in the Qran,Sira ,Hadith call for the murder of anyone that doesn't submit?

[@farawayfromyourcountry]

The Quran and Hadith do not promote indiscriminate violence against non-Muslims or those who do not submit to Islam. The Quranic verses and Hadiths often cited in this context are specific to historical situations, typically related to warfare or self-defense. They are frequently misunderstood or taken out of context. Quranic Verses Often Cited 1. Surah At-Tawbah (9:5): Known as the "verse of the sword," it says: > "Kill the polytheists wherever you find them..." This verse is often quoted without context. Historically, it refers to a specific period during which treaties were broken by certain groups hostile to the Muslim community. The verse is surrounded by conditions of peace and amnesty for those who cease hostilities. 2. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:190): > "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors." This verse emphasizes self-defense and explicitly forbids transgression or aggression. 3. Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:32): > "Whoever kills a soul...it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one, it is as if he had saved mankind entirely." This verse underscores the sanctity of life and the severe prohibition against unjust killing. Context in the Hadith While there are Hadiths discussing war, they must be understood in the context of defensive or just warfare. For example: The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) prohibited killing non-combatants, women, children, and religious clergy during war. He instructed: > "Do not kill women, children, or non-combatants, and do not cut down fruit-bearing trees." (Sunan Abu Dawood, 2614) Misconceptions and Selective Interpretation The claim of "hundreds of verses" calling for violence against non-Muslims is an exaggeration rooted in misinterpretations or deliberate misrepresentations. Most verses in the Quran focus on moral guidance, spirituality, and community building. When discussing warfare, they are almost always in the context of defense, justice, or response to aggression. Scholarly Understanding Islamic scholars emphasize understanding the Quran and Hadith within their historical, linguistic, and situational contexts. Any interpretation advocating indiscriminate violence contradicts the broader principles of justice, mercy, and peace central to Islamic teachings. i know maybe you're not muslim and of course you do not read the quran or hadith, so i can excuse your ignorant ❤

[@MyNameisWatt9]

A lottttt, like actually hundreds, The Fire comes for us all apparently

[@louisdeniau8571]

@@MyNameisWatt9its none. you just lied. you are describing christianity

[@ThePreparedMuslim]

You both are shockingly ignorant. Please quote just one for me, with context. I'll wait.

[@gavriloprincip11]

@@MyNameisWatt9 123 alls to violene actualy (...and the hadiths and Sari are even more barbaric )

[@kitkat253]

Maybe he should hop on a plane and hand out his speech in Arabic in Syria, Libya, etc., etc? Telling a crowd near London all this is amusing, they may not need telling, though!

[@cheesball96]

Oxford isn't near London, they are 60 miles apart.

[@ThePreparedMuslim]

You are so ignorant. They would laugh him out of the arena, because they're not as ignorant as you westerners. They know the contributions of Muslims, that the first great scientists and researchers were Muslims, that your entire so called Renaissance was built on the back of Muslims and their discoveries which you claimed for yourselves: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2XXXmR7jMt2osksi=oXw1Xs0B14pN88I2 Here are the Islamic scientists that gave rise to the West you know today, while simultaneously calling Islam backwards. You westerners are a plague, simply ignorant you have infected this poor fool. That is clear for the Arabs to see, because they know what their land was before you came.

[@samreads]

His handout would lead to a literal "hand out - and on the floor"

[@VikingCrusaders]

@ the entire Muslim golden age was created by European knowledge you translated in the House of Baghdad

[@og8263]

London is 40% muslim already

[@Sanatani-x9v]

Astronomy and number system comes from India before the birth of islam. Even the Arabs knows this.

[@mukundha7621]

Arabs traded more slaves than whites

[@andrew-x3n4r]

algebra was an Arab Egyptian creation, from a man who refused islam! and was forced to admit to being a muslim when Egypt was taken over my Muhammads fuck the world invasion

[@andrew-x3n4r]

and algebra, an Egyptian invention which the muslims claimed as there own after they re wrote history and forced the christian Arab who created it to say he was a muslim

[@Sanatani-x9v]

@ no algebra is not a invention of the Egyptians. Research about Aryabhatta. Even Plato took his knowledge from Indians and was vegetarian as well.

[@Larsbor]

8:26 The Quaran does say that, but it is up to who will act upon it. It is part of the word of Allah his god, that wrote the quaran, that the words cannot be changed, it is gods words, and thus there can be no reform of Islam ever. He is a going against his own faith and should be treated according to his own Sharia law according to Islam. Or else he should change religion.

[@Harshit-dd4li]

They guy sitting back to him is trying to control his laugh 😂😂😂

[@RajaTech-u3z]

Yes the moment that speaker started saying about science contibutors from Islamic areas😂. The fact is we all are humans. Why's he trying to connect some mediocre inventions to Islam and trying to prove Islam is peaceful 🤐

[@raymondjensen4603]

It cannot be reformed because their founding documents are believed to be the exact word of God and therefore none of it can be ignored or amended by man. Truth is that it is the word of man and desperately needs to be recognized as such.

[@KawsarKurban-g2t]

Talking to a Muslim is like talking to a wall, they love to play mental gymnastics with you

[@ChristelvPost]

In Germany Hamed Abbel-Samad would agree 100% to this speach!! And we German must protect this man from radical Islamist. 🇺🇸🇩🇪❤

[@samsongebrihiwot4589]

Zu spät die radikal Islam sind unsere kleine Kinder die deutsche Regierung behandelt den Islam besonders gut

[@shacharlavi8556]

Much love from Israel brother🇮🇱💪

[@anjotheweezky215]

This is what a honest Muslim sounds like. I give credit to truth tellers. I am not interested in pretenders.

[@Lonsdaleitehard]

"It may be a reflection on human nature, that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on Government would be necessary." The Federalist Papers. This problem with mixing religion with the government, is that the person who gets to speak for God, really can't be questioned, because to go against them, is to go against God. "Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely" -Lord Acton

[@antun88]

Separation of religion and government is a fantasy. Western governments are not really separated from Christianity. In the 18th century Western philosophers just secularized and clumsily rationalized Christian morality. Instead of saying "we hold these truths as sacred" they said "self-evident". But the truths are still echoes of Sermon on the Mount and ideas generated by centuries of Christian theology.

[@OneGoalTV]

Islam and humanity are very different 😢

[@Xen-wy6bo]

Amazing words... It's high time Muslims need to look inwards & start reforms

[@JanmejayaMohanty727]

Islam in Brain out

[@Stand663]

All religions preach love and peace except you know who.

[@NightsideOfParadise]

His not wrong.

[@Kalle-z1o]

like this guy, but he is soo far away from islam that it dont make any sens why he is in this debate...

[@howardroark9123]

An Apologist who thinks he understands Islam better than the real Momins. These kind of Ms are the most ignorant, most disillusioned and most dangerous.

[@vinuaryan17]

No debate is required on this. Everybody knows the answer....

[@krishnaveganathar]

“Just like Hamas was voted in…”

[@Mountain24665]

Great speech, doctor. The world needs people like you. God bless you🙏🙏

[@missluna]

Amazing speech doc

[@JanmejayaMohanty727]

Mohammed saw 54 Ayisha 9 😊

[@carefir]

I like the "don't kill apostates" part

[@steveygee1]

You can see the people squirming when the truth (or at least closer to it) is delivered.

[@regularshiftrs3676]

Detail: revolutions are meant not to install open democracy but the democracy that the revolutionary want. And the latter doesent include the reactionary neither other moderate thinkers but may include moderates and extermes of the revolutionary.

[@virendraSingh-je3sx]

What happens to minorities ask hindus of Pakistan or Bangladesh or Afganistan

[@JanmejayaMohanty727]

Israel ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@kitkat253]

This guy seems unaware the Texts are the same for all of them. Haven’t watched beyond 2 minutes. So here is the test for him. Go to Trafalgar Square and tell your brethren the natives want them out, so go home and pack. Prudent he gets a couple of warships standing by when he makes this call. There is no reform permitted. Simple as that. The imams decide what is right. End of story. Happy Wednesday.

[@louisdeniau8571]

you must think this country is a dictatorship. adapt or leave

[@andrew-x3n4r]

your either a muslim or not, there is no compromise, thats the problem, you can't have your cake and not eat it

[@Abdulhayeeonlinestudy]

The opponent of this team was very impressive and their arguments were best

[@Whatsinaname423]

Quran is a complete document and any update to it is blasphemous. It is editing god’s word.. editing Quran means there were issues with the book. Which in itself is blasphemy .

[@Asphyxia-l8i]

And yet there are different versions of the Qu’ran.

[@andrew-x3n4r]

@@Asphyxia-l8i 27 in total and only 1 final version given to the world 200 years after Muhammad when they had taken over most of the world by the sword and the war lords pretending to know him finalised the last version! funny that! oh and by that time they had also killed over 270 million christians, hindus, Druze etc the world over

[@D-E-S_8559]

Why is "democracy“ essential, whom does this democracy benefit and why do other people who have democracy, have to unalive others who don't-is democracy a religion, compulsion or a choice...???

[@nitantjoon1975]

Simple don’t demand democracy when your are in non Muslim majority countries then

[@ashcharya27]

This should be spoken in Islamic countries.

[@Alhilohe6336]

Study who is Muhammad and what are his teaching and deeds.

[@Scruples1]

What a joke and hypocrisy. Oxford Union promoting this is disgusting.

[@benbsingh]

Why people are migrating to West from Islamic countries where no freedom/low education/factional fights/killing each other.

[@perfectjudematt]

Islam and democracy contradicting itself

[@elachechino]

Reform is historically more radical. 😢 there is little hope!

[@michaelmichael6980]

This guy is trying to sell a dead horse called Islam as a new brand 😂😂

[@andrew-x3n4r]

choose which side of the bed to sleep in, no middle space

[@louisehoward8711]

Many moderate Muslims in Turkey have become modern.

[@terranaxiomuk]

Islam never lost its way. It's just more peaceful in the West. There wouldn't be an oxoford University or anything but islamic madras school and Sharia law if it were possible.

[@MW20017]

Great speech!

[@Pincopalin]

Bravo!

[@Qamar_lune]

To begin with there is NO democraty in this world so who is he to lecture us on what to do with Islam

[@subramayamrvr8774]

when you have a political and militant ideology how can there be peace and spirituality leave alone religious faith.

[@carlbuzz9087]

Muslims need Hinduism and Buddhism philosophy of tolerance, acceptance & faith is completely personal matter..

[@yod922]

Qur@ns truth claim is it is the actual words of A||ah, and the mother Qur@n of the one on earth is in Jann@t with A||@h. For any reform, how is any mus|im going to edit the alleged words of Allah on earth when the original in Jannat can't be edited. And one proposes to do so after 1400 years of its inception. So the earlier mus|ims who followed is|am are wrong or erroneous. Do A||ah's words change with time, is his word eternal or fallible and attenuated requiring titivations. Reform is impossible in |s|am.

[@KawsarKurban-g2t]

Islam is an one book religion, they say it’s an one God religion, but reading one book comes with different interpretations from everyone, and every Muslim argues over what is true Islam, so everyone believes in their own version of God, so is it really One God?

[@agnellogeorge]

Democracy is come out straight from biblical values... So there you go without Jesus ... We will soon be another Iran.

[@playerraja2483]

Islam must evolve

[@pkbalram640]

Christianity was reformed at the council of Nicea because all the books were written by men with their prejudices. Islam on the other hand were told that it is straight from Lah via gibrel. Moe even recieve koran via the ringing of a bell yet he banned the bell . Hello.

[@HasanRony-wv3xd]

Islam always perfect no need to reform bcz quran completely memories in head......... People pov need to reform and people devived according to their lack of knowledge and lack of well communicating knowledge

[@Asphyxia-l8i]

Which Qu’ran the Sunni or Shia version?

[@rockitchevy]

Well done Dr Zuhdi Jasser

[@TheMagicLemur]

Love Dr Zuhdi Jasser's passion at 4:00. Islam could be truly great if it had an enlightenment (speaking as a non-Muslim).

[@AmicableAgnostic]

But enlightenment is not possible bcoz after enlightenment it won't be I5lam anymore.

[@TheMagicLemur]

@AmicableAgnostic Hmm - don't think the two are distinct. Any religion can be "house-trained" (as Nigel Lawson put it). 🤷

[@AmicableAgnostic]

@@TheMagicLemur Let me give an example. Let's assume all are enlightened and now they allow u to dress as u want, allow gay marriage, alllow only fans, eat pig, permit alcohol, freedom to criticise muhammad, allow to leave I5lam publicly. Is this I5lam anymore?

[@TheMagicLemur]

@AmicableAgnostic Wouldn't have to be that Black-and-white. For example: alcohol use is declining in the West, and some think veggie / Halal is slightly more enlightened (often Muslims eat veggie options rather than Pork). I guess I'd rather see I5lam share *some* enlightenment values than none. Most Muslims arguably already do (esp in the West). 🤷

[@AmicableAgnostic]

@@TheMagicLemur That means u don't know about I5lamic history. They are minority in west so u see a different I5lam, don't confuse it with enlightenment. Can u show me just 5 enlightened countries out of 55 mu5lim mejority countries? Mu5lims were just like they are in west now in some countries but everything changed as soon as they became the mejority. For example Pakistan Bangladesh Afghanistan Iran.

[@Pascalafc]

Great speech - on point!

[@Larsbor]

9:55 He clearly dont know the bible. Jesus was asked how the jews should be taxed, and he defined the spilt of religion from Politics.. give Cecar what is his coins … (dont trust a Muslim! as Monty Python says in a scetch).

[@prakharsrivastava8157]

Rightly said

[@Againstdhawa]

Oxford iis islamitised qatar funds them..

[@LornaKellyZim]

I was not impressed by the smirking youth on Ben's right or the youth behind him constantly on his phone. Poor show Oxford.

[@Larsbor]

Why is he allowed to talk and live in US, he should live in Iran.

[@janelowe524]

It’s all about the money 💴

[@Hafeex_vaxeer]

Something is wrong with recipe, bro. You just doodle around.

[@rians6930]

Reform Islam while keeping the beliefs written in the book supposedly word of God? It's the word of God. How do you change that. The word of God says to hate Jews and non believers. The word of God says to treat women differently. The word of God allows to keep slaves. It is also said the book is for ever. Not for that time but for all times. Muslims are just practicing that. Some others try to distort what is written. Whatever is written is written. When you say it's word of God and that people will endure the wrath of God if they don't listen how can you reform while staying within Islam. Those who follow the book will never follow democracy. So what can we do who believe in liberties and western ideologies. Only welcome people who are willing to or show that they like West. You cannot reform Islam and it's believers who learn the book with much more priority over sciences and maths.

[@rogermetzger7335]

For more than a year now, I’ve been exploring KZbin channels that deal with the interface of Islam and the West. Over and over and over I have urged that Muslims undertake a reform of Islam and asked for any information to the effect that such a reform movement was being at least discussed. Imagine my delight to stumble on this video!!! Beginning before the sixteenth century but raching a crescendo in that century, a reform movement was undertaken in Christianity. Even after the giant step taken by protestants in the sixteenth century, it wasn’t until the seventeenth century that Roger Williams and William Penn took the bold step of offering liberty to people with whom they disagreed. If you aren’t acquainted with the context in which that happened and how it happened, please study that aspect of history. It is indeed sad that, in the twenty-first century, the majority of professed Christians, at least in the United States, think the only alternative to Shira and “environmentalism” is to use civil government to promote their ostensibly Christian beliefs and practices and to use civil government to enforce their ostensibly Christian prohibitions. That’s a step backward, in my opinion. I’d like to learn more about the Islamic Reform Movement mentioned in this video. In the meantime, I hope Muslims everywhere can study the protestant reformation and the breakthroughs achieved by Roger Williams and William Penn in the seventeenth century. Perhaps something about that history can serve as inspiration - or maybe even models - for Muslims who see the advantages of encouraging similar reforms within Islam. P.S. I confess that I didn’t read an English paraphrase of the Qur’an until 2021-2022 but, because I have done that, I’m somewhat acquainted with the challenges of reforming Islam.

[@s.u3446]

Try reading the actual quran sincerely before you talk rubbish.

[@rogermetzger7335]

@@s.u3446 If I understand the teachings of Islam correctly, the Qur'an cannot be translated. Which means that what I read was an English paraphrase - not a translation, I'm 80 years old so learning Arabic may not be at the top of the list of my priorities. Is there a particular part of the Qur'an you think I misunderstood and need to re-read?

[@VikingCrusaders]

@@s.u3446 yet you can’t dispute a single thing he said. You constantly humiliate yourselves

[@s.u3446]

@@rogermetzger7335 of course it can be translated, why do you think we have translations. The Qur'an is for everyone.

[@s.u3446]

@@VikingCrusaders the guy said he only read a paraphrase of the quran, which tells me he hasn't really read the quran translated. I'm simply telling him to read the full quran sincerely before making his mind up about what it needs to change.

[@felixdim3977]

I suppose Muslims need to invest into research, find their own path and figure out how to contribute to the world. They could come up with something new and better.

[@farawayfromyourcountry]

This opinion offers a valuable perspective, and from an Islamic point of view, it aligns with key teachings about the pursuit of knowledge and contributing positively to the world. Islam encourages the pursuit of knowledge, innovation, and contributing to the betterment of humanity. The Qur'an repeatedly calls on believers to reflect, ponder, and seek understanding of the world. For instance, the verse: > "He raises the ranks of those who believe and those who have been given knowledge." (Qur'an 58:11) This highlights the importance of intellectual growth and its value in Islam. 1. Islam’s Historical Contributions Throughout history, Muslims have significantly contributed to various fields such as science, medicine, mathematics, philosophy, and the arts. The Islamic Golden Age (8th-13th centuries) serves as a prime example, where scholars like Al-Khwarizmi (mathematics), Ibn Sina (medicine), and Al-Farabi (philosophy) laid foundational work that shaped modern disciplines. This legacy demonstrates that Islamic teachings are not a barrier to innovation but a catalyst for it. Muslims today can draw inspiration from this heritage to lead in contemporary fields. 2. Pursuing Research and Innovation Modern challenges require Muslims to engage in cutting-edge research and find solutions rooted in both ethical principles and scientific rigor. This means not only catching up with advancements in areas like technology, renewable energy, and medicine but also leading with innovations that prioritize social equity and environmental stewardship-values deeply embedded in Islam. 3. Developing Unique Contributions Muslims have a unique opportunity to contribute to the world by integrating spiritual and moral frameworks with technological progress. This could involve: Promoting ethical artificial intelligence that respects human dignity. Innovating in sustainable practices, as environmental stewardship is a key Islamic value. Contributing to peacebuilding and justice, inspired by Islamic teachings on equality and compassion. 4. Investing in Education and Collaboration For these contributions to become a reality, investment in education, interdisciplinary collaboration, and creating environments that nurture curiosity and creativity are essential. Islam encourages working collectively for the common good (ta’awun), making global partnerships a natural extension of Islamic values. In summary, the opinion is both valid and constructive. Islam not only supports but mandates the pursuit of knowledge and contributing to human progress. By embracing this call, Muslims can indeed create new and better pathways for themselves and for the world.

[@paulthomas281]

@felixdim3977 "I suppose Muslims ..." There is no such thing as a mass of Muslims. They are all different and don't agree on anything.

[@felixdim3977]

@ So you mean they are not capable of doing anything worthwhile!

[@paulthomas281]

@@felixdim3977 There is no "they".

[@felixdim3977]

@@paulthomas281 But you have used ‘they’ in your comment!

[@voccsaycee30]

Good speaker. So where is that Mosab speech though? The most important clip thats been recorded and yet it's being withheld?

[@user-lp9vz6lu3t]

Greatness of any religion is not decided by its founder prophet or avatar but rather it's followers, why do you think buddha is most respected figure in human history not because of him but his followers

[@fletsepopje]

Where is the Mossab video ?

[@dimmmmmmp]

Dr Jasser mentioned christianity underwent a "modernisation" process to be separated from the state in early modern history strong point made, but it's not developed well enough in the islamic aspect. i'd give it a 3.5/5 above average

[@random_gunner.9064]

Excellent 👌👍 well said.

[@mariaelisabettasesselego9607]

He nailed it

[@VikingCrusaders]

The entire Muslim golden age is completely based on European Roman and Greek knowledge that Arabs discovered and learnt

[@Oneflyingchair]

Those were Persians. They didn't draw on European inventions.

[@VikingCrusaders]

@@Oneflyingchair yea many were Persian. An Indo-European ethnic group

[@VikingCrusaders]

@@Oneflyingchair yes they most certainly did. Not as much, but they also did.

[@VikingCrusaders]

@@Oneflyingchair The Arabs employed European and Persian scholars to both translate works into Arabic and to develop new knowledge. These were fundamental elements that contributed directly to the flourishing of scholarship in the Arab world.

[@VikingCrusaders]

@@Oneflyingchair Persians were part of the Arab world then. Persians have significant contributions. But during this time they overlap with Arabs

[@SAGAR_S_JADHAV]

If it is word of supreme God then why it needs reform. Why universal timeless law need reform & change. but the queation is "IS IT REALLY WORD OF GOD".

[@louisebenefield4105]

Great points 👍

[@SanjayRoy-vz5ih]

This is the place, where you hear nerds speaks their BS, what is spoken here, stays here😂😂...he was taught sugar coated sky book

[@marcdellapina6057]

Superb

[@shacharlavi8556]

Wow.amazing.

[@thecanticleofcrom4787]

IS religion about truth? It seems to be more of a function of where you are born and culture. Nothing to do with truth. ...?

[@its_atre]

This.

[@Larsbor]

1:10 my god He dont know Islamism, just think about who invented that religion and why. Islamophobia isnt a word ! Islam is a political ideology.. 3:20 he is thinking about judeism and Persia not Islam …peace of surrender 😅😂😂😂😂 I think he is conflicting Jesus peacefull religion with that of an authoritan political warlord.

[@special.agent.JeffreySteeleFBI]

Wrong about Maimomedes the jewish guy from moor...he describes the pains of jews under muslim rule elaboratrly in one of his writings

[@hero4963]

Lmao what a dumb lie its literally history you cant just say shit and force it to be true lmao its literally called the golden age of judaism lmao inside the islamic empire

[@mukundha7621]

Do read muhhamad taking saffiya a jewish woman as sex slaves

[@marcususa]

Interesting tactics. They upload a video today which is NOT complete. It only has ~11.5 minutes. But then you try to see the rest of it and you get this. Upload the whole thing in its entirety. Stop trying to bamboozle us.