DR650 ergos: how to set your seat height, footpegs, bars and windscreen︱Cross Training Adventure

From the suspension gurus at www.fullforceracing.com.au/ We look at the seat, lowering, footpegs, bars, risers and windscreen options for the DR650 to sort out the ergonomics, or ergos, of getting comfortable on the bushpig. Ergonomics, or ergos for short, is simply setting the bike up so you feel comfortable on it. Now the good news is if you are a hump backed short arse, chances are the DR650 will be close to perfect. As long as you have a metallic arse to cope with that terrible piece of concrete they call a seat. The DR650 is already quite low, but you can lower it even further. The easy way to lower the DR650 is simply change one of the linkage bolts to another hole for the rear, then slide the forks up through the triple clamps as well. Now, the big problem with the DR650 egos is when you start to get taller. For most of us, the triangle formed by the bars, seat and footpegs is simply too small and feels too cramped, especially when standing on the pegs.
If you are really short, then you can also get aftermarket seats that go lower than the stock seat. One thing to keep in mind is if you ride the DR650 aggressively the bike can bottom out already when jumping the bike. If you lower it then of course it's going to ground out even more often. But hopefully you are sensible and don't jump your bushpig.
The handlebars. These DR650 ridiculous bar mounts angle back toward the rider for god knows what reason, Mr Suzuki. So if you try to fit bar mounts you just make things worse by pushing the bars even further back. Stupid. Many of us find the perfect solution is the Rox pivoting risers. I opted for the big two inch risers due to being six foot four. The best thing is you just pivot these to where they feel right, then you can adjust your bars to suit as well.
Let's start with the DR650 footpegs. These are ridiculously high, and not far back enough for most of us. The cheapest and most common solution here is footpeg lowering plates, like these ones from Vince Strang Motorcycles, a simple bolt on solution that pushes the stock footpegs down and back to get more room on the bike. Remember if you jump the DR650 these hang below the frame and will hit the ground, but they are tough and can take the impact.
A new product on the market for the DR650 is these brilliant low peg mounts from Wirtz Wird EDM. The first mount just lowers the pegs, the second type also moves the footpegs back for taller riders. Simply bolt the original pegs on and off you go. You can buy these directly from Wirtz Wire EDM, or buy them through Procycle.
wirtzwireedm.com US$129 $139
Remember if you do move your DR650 footpegs to the rear but have small feet you may have trouble reaching the gear shift and rear brake pedal. But generally taller riders have big feet so this shouldn't become a prob.
There are all sorts of different DR650 footpegs available, personally I've fallen in love with Fastway's adventure footpegs. Mates of mine have these on their KTM 950s and rave about them. They come with a range of different sized cleats to fit and provide an incredibly roomy secure feel for boots. The much larger surface also means you chew out your boot soles far less often, a win win situation all round in my book.
If you are an older rider and find your upper body is getting beaten up nowadays, flexible handlebars can be worth looking at too. The Flexx bars work well for adventure riding on the softest setting, there are also the Twisted Engineering bars which are more for dirt bikes, but they will soon be bringing out a more flexible 4X version that will suit adventure bikes too.
The seat. What was Suzuki thinking? It's not a bloody motocross bike! I've been extremely happy with the Procycle seat foam and cover seat for only US$119.
This is much softer than the stock lump of concrete, wider, a bit lower, more grip, and a higher bit for your pillion passenger to get a better view over your shoulder. Perfect! There are other seats out there, have a look at Seat Concepts, Corbin, Sargent, the Moose Adventure Saddle. If you are on a very tight budget, look at the Sit & Fly Net Seat Cover for only US$29. Or if you are very tall, you can always just cut some upholstery foam and staple some black vinyl over the existing seat. I did this on my last DR650, it was butt ugly but oh so comfortable.
Fairings or windscreens? These start around $100 like this one I got from Adventure Bike Australia. If you like the do-it-yourself approach, just google the 'DR650 $6 windscreen mod'. You'll find the template for just cutting up a plastic trash can, bend it a bit then voila, you have a home made windscreen.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

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[@QuadroEnduro]

this is the best video about dr650 ergonomics for tall people

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Thanks!

[@tirpitz19]

From all the motorcycles i owned,i love DR 650 the most.It's also, that i live in a country which is perfect for this kind of bike,Romania.Hilly,mountainous and not so good rods.

[@Mr2fast4uall]

Great Video thanks for posting I just bought a left over 2015 Bush Pig and so far I am loving it!

[@MothershipVideos]

Just reinforcing the love that your videos bring to everyone. :-]

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Mothership Videos i feel the love, brothers and sisters.... :D

[@namdarbolour9890]

So much great information! Thank you for sharing with our community!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Our pleasure, Namdar!

[@gncc1race]

I love bike builds... Mine, other people's, yours... The Bush Pig is coming along nicely. That's almost enough to make me want a DR650 just so I can build it! I love that windscreen, noticed that in your last vid on the pig. It looks like it's perfect for taking the pressure off without a lot of buffeting. I'm a big BIG fan of wind protection (you should see the giant Cee Bailey's windshield I put on my FJR... Looks like a Goldwing!) So soon you're going to have to take the pig on a video recorded adventure for our benefit! LOL!! Thanks for the upload Barry.

[@gncc1race]

ADVENTURE OZ Awesome! I'll be looking for it.

[@dannyfubar3099]

Excellent post, thank you for sharing.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Glad you enjoyed it Danny 😎

[@zzxx33mh]

you vids make me think more towards the DR than the Green machine Klr,your voice is familiar ;XTraining..with windshild;how does it feel in long highway? touring.. thank for the Channel,It's really really useful..educated..like us we need people like you..Lord Bliss..

[@PondstompingAdventures]

am totally looking at getting the DR650. Fits my 5'7" self amazingly. Can't wait to do some basic mods. Love this program. Keep up the great work.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Brian Lunt thanks brian, yeah i doubt you'll need to change much on the bike to suit you whereas i'm a bit of a giraffe. :(

[@westboundNinja1]

You flat foot at your height?

[@Andriig75]

Have you done the neutral sensor screws yet? Do it, it's not that hard... Was THAT a problem on Australian model, just curious?

[@Andriig75]

@@westboundNinja1 I'm 5'7", 31" inseam, and I can put one foot flat, the other just a toe. Never bothered me, the bike's so light

[@Sweetmanmoto]

regarding the seat; I ripped the existing cover off, glued additional firm foam to the existing foam, shaped it with an angle grinder, then re-stapled the cover back on. 15,000km later and I'm still happy with this $10 mod.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Sweetman i LOVE that sort of mod, i know some of the bling i'm looking at is very expensive but there is almost always the cheap do it yourself option for most things... my favourites usually.

[@Sweetmanmoto]

Don't worry, I've spoiled my DR with plenty of fancy whore's trinkets as well. I feel like I could do a lot more DIY mods if I was more confident welding, shaping and cutting metal.

[@hardworkingamerican8847]

You know when I got my DR I had the dealership order a new seat . I asked them if they can get the Sargent seat but they said Suzuki has a good aftermarket gel seat . I said ok what do I know . 6 months later when I finally got the chance to swap it out I was stunned . It was way worse than the stock seat . It was harder and wider , made my hip joints hurt . I couldn't switch it back soon enough . So far the stock seat isn't so bad to me , it isn't my couch and I haven't done more than 80 miles in a day yet . As for the pegs yeah I am sick of kicking it down a gear instead of up a gear because my boots are level with the shifter . Sucks at red lights and think you have a nice cushion between you and traffic and some car is now on your ass .

[@ozzielinkin]

Where can I purchase a block of seat foam?

[@macca6188]

Mate love your work keep up the awesome work. P.S love your work on your bush pig

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+maccas motorbikes thanks macca.... putting some knobbies on soon and then she'll really be ready for a blast :)

[@Seawithinyou]

Thanks for this Great input and shall pass this on to our DR650 NZ Facebook riders 😇

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I hope it's useful, Tracy. I think most of the info is still current.

[@IISHEEVAII]

WE LOVE THIS VIDEOS, COME ON RETURNS TO DR650 BRO. VIVA MEXICOOO

[@osimnod]

Great tips delivered with humor. Who are the 3 losers giving a thumb down? Prolly KTM or BMW riders crying over the $20k they spent on garage queens, afraid to take them off road?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+osimnod it's funny asimnod, on the enduro channel there is a guy who always puts his thumbs down on a new vid within a few minutes of the vid being posted.... have to admire that kind of dedication to hating a youtube channel lol

[@JoeJoeMoto]

Seat concepts seats are bloody awesome!

[@Max-ps2ps]

Check out Topline seat covers they are handmade and a great price

[@Andriig75]

Especially if you get a kit and do it yourself. Save$$ over the option where you send them your seat and THEY do it 😁 don't know what it costs to ship to Australia, I'm in PA, USA. Cheers

[@Andriig75]

@@Max-ps2ps I'm glad it works for you, but I love my Seat Concepts $169 US. How much Topline go for? Cheers

[@lifeofbryan3098]

Bloody hell, those fastway pegs look like boards! I need to get me some of those, I feel like a ballerina on the stock pegs

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+BBQ Rider it would be hard to go back to the stock ones now ;)

[@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953]

I had fastway pegs on my dirt bike. They broke and weren’t covered under warranty. I went back to stock steel pegs and wouldn’t recommend them. That’s being said they should hold up fine on an adventure bike that is ridden like most adventure bikes.

[@TheDavidLipschitz]

Brilliant. You're bolting on all the top stuff. Budget? whatever, it's still probably cheaper than anything that compares.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+davidlip for the ergos? some of it is expensive, but for most things there's that do-it-yourself seat padding, the lowering plates... i actually prefer the home made stuff but plenty of adventure riders are cashed up so try to cover the cheap and expensive ways.

[@neilw5198]

ok. I get what you mean. I have seen second hand ktm690 for 10,000 that seem to have a lot of modifications already done, so i guess there not perfect too. I have ridden a 640lc4 didn't like it much. I have plenty of fun and less worries on my xr400r. So a dr650 is a good base platform to build up. Enjoying your channel alot. Im nearly 40 and love riding, your channel has just given me a new lease of riding....hahaha.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Neil W there are guys who swear by the DR neil, and really enjoy setting it up. others find it too tedious.... i'm about halfway in between so do the hard yards then love the end result. :) mind you, some still might not like it once it's all done, i guess the ideal would be to beg a ride on a properly prepped DR and see what you think.

[@Andriig75]

Where you at?

[@allenhuling598]

Great observations and tips! I'm only 6' 1" but definitely find that 'magic' triangle too small on my current bike, the DR 350. Unfortunately there are not near as many aftermarket products for this bike, and finding peg lowering options has been frustrating. I'll keep looking!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Allen Huling the fastway pegs only drop down and back a bit allen but it can still make a bit of difference... unfortunately the DR650 is so bad it needs way more than that, not sure about the 350 though.

[@allenhuling598]

+ADVENTURE OZ Thanks Barry, I'll check it out!

[@MARKMAN-qt2up]

never heard of the triangle before will defiantly give that a look. my uncle unfortunately sold is dr650 last year he had the suspension tuned by teknik for adventure riding and the interesting part is the tuned suspension increased the ride height significantly to the point where he could touch the ground on tiptoes hes 6ft 3 and had to buy a seat concepts low seat for safer riding

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+MARK5MAN7170 interesting, they must have got more suspension travel too which would be fine if you were riding it hard. but the DR doesn't need a higher centre of gravity in my experience!

[@MARKMAN-qt2up]

+ADVENTURE OZ true it probably was that he specified that he will be carrying +20KG all the time which was for all adventure stuff that you may need like water jugs, clothes, extra fuel and tenting equipment

[@rex4x4]

Those wired pegs looked sweet

[@sjbechet1111]

For a cheap clear screen check out your local industrial plastic supplier (Mulford plastics are in all the Ozzy main centers) they do cheap off-cuts of acrylic - lexan - perspex - you can use that template and a heat gun or even put the acrylic in the oven to make it soft enough to form.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Thanks for the tip, AC, I'll be making a screen for my new DR650 soon. www.mulfordplastics.com.au/

[@sjbechet1111]

@@crosstrainingadventure When the vaccine has rolled out there will be a shit-ton of 'safety screens' going cheap :-)

[@masterbeta343]

0:41 that voice crack haha

[@huntercardon2346]

hey I would like to recommend a dirtbike it is a KTM 450 SX 2006 it has a lot of low end power and relatively light

[@eduardocorona3221]

Any one have any links to some affordable stunt bars / crash bars & crank Casing covers

[@calebmoyer3454]

When I tried to add Rox Risers to my DR, cable length seemed to be an issue. I have not dug into the cable routing to see if I can free up some slack as of yet but seeing the DR in the vid using them tells me I should make a second attempt.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Caleb Moyer the only change i needed to make caleb was rotating the throttle housing a bit to allow more slack.

[@sjbechet1111]

Yes that fucking seat. I enter pushbike races, I can do a 5 hour race on a pushbike and my arse is in better shape than after 2 on a stock DR.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

And the aftermarket seats are crazy expensive! Being tall, I just cut some old foam and stapled some back vinyl across the raised widened seat on my latest DR... very comfy but so ugly lol.

[@sjbechet1111]

@@crosstrainingadventure Yup - theirs > $40 (NZ pesos) of material in the kits. Time to break out the sewing machine.

[@WifeOfMrSmith]

Thanks Barry, I am saving this for later when I finaly buy my own DR650. Also, your DR is ridiculously clean. How's that even possible?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Caya it doesn't rain here very often caya, and after most rides there's just a layer of dust so i just hose it off, spray the chain and it's all ready for the next ride. ;)

[@Elsanta666]

best way to lower, is getting sm rims 17s with 50/50 tires, doesnt affect the ride..am 5'3 works perfect

[@charlesmansfield3238]

SANTA MUERTE flatfoot? I'm 5 11 just curious

[@fabianodias9073]

Eletrônica combustível para dr650ano 94 d duas velas alguém sabe

[@cwisden]

Curious why you still haven't put on more aggressive knobbies?? I recently switched to 80% dirt 20% street tires now my DR is a completely different beast on the trails. My love for it doubled :) .. Hope you keep making DR vids. Great work!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Casey Michael Wisden i've been waiting for the GT723 knobbies from goldentyre, casey. apparently these are almost the perfect adventure knobby according to reviews, but they won't be available here for a while so finally slapped on a pair of dunlop D606s for the time being. can't wait to hit the dirt again with some better tyres!

[@Dumptheclutchevo]

love these videos fella, but yeah how the bugger do you wheelie it so easily?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+evo moto it's all in the timing and technique evo.... you don't need much throttle at all once it all comes together kzbin.info/www/bejne/eILIfqCBqN6dnas

[@hardworkingamerican8847]

I want to bring my DR650 to you guys and do just about everything you recommend . Just can't afford the ticket .

[@andrewstambaugh240]

start doing the easy parts yourself, and you will break through the fear and learn how easy it is to change most vehicles to improve them. Also recommended: don't resort to throwing lots of money at most things. Adjusting your controls is free and makes a significant difference if setup right vs wrong. Don't have money for an expensive set of bags? Go to goodwill and look for something cheap and rugged that you won't care about messing up. And color matching with spray paint goes a long way toward a bike not looking trashy.

[@hardworkingamerican8847]

@@andrewstambaugh240 I use Rustoleum white primer on my boxtruck , works great . Sold that DR650 3 months after getting my Tenere 700 in July 2020 . Love that bike but sure would like something lighter . Probably will get a DR650 again but one with the 790 kit and other mods or maybe a KTM 690 that got all the wrinkles worked out .

[@rickdr6508]

Love the channel, I've done most of the mods you've shown. ps. How do you wheelie so easily ? it really pisses me off :-)

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Rick French had a few questions about the wheelies a couple of years back rick, did this vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eILIfqCBqN6dnas

[@ConfirmedPatriot]

We're the cables long enough with the Rox Pros installed ? Thanks for your vids!👍🏻👌🏻

[@crosstrainingadventure]

yep!

[@TommyNitro]

How is the cockpit once the pegs are lowered? I have an xr650l, but after ~40 to 50 miles my hips and knees really feel cramped. I know a guy who got a klx230 and it has an extra inch of cockpit room compared to the mighty xr! I have considered getting the seat concepts seat thinking maybe since it is better than the stock seat it might help, but in general I don't know if a happy butt will make the cramped position tolerable.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Can't really say what improvement that would make in each individual case. But generally any tall rider will be more comfortable if the pegs go down and back, and the bars are up and possibly forward too.

[@Phantom8Bit]

LMAO at the first 30 seconds!

[@leesuschrist]

I wear a size 12 motorcycle boot and I'm debating between the lowered footpegs and the lowered/back footpegs. What do you think would be better for me?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Lee H a big boot means you shouldn't have an issue reaching the gear and rear brake levers if the pegs are moved back. if you are fairly tall i'd say definitely go that option to get more room on the bike.

[@drumsnbass]

I just went and looked up the Flexx bars. What a choice selection! How did you choose your bars? I'm 6'2". Thanks!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

i asked them what they recommended for my size and type of riding

[@johnny0seven]

Really great build. I'm currently fitting the 2 inch rox risers on my DR and find that some cables are tight, like the throttle. Any tips?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

You can just spin the throttle housing 180 degrees which gives heaps of free play. Move levers in along the bars a little.

[@johnny0seven]

@@crosstrainingadventure Thanks for the tip! I ended up re-routing the throttle cables closer to the handlebars and there's plenty of freeplay now :D

[@dirkdiggler5164]

I laughed when I looked up the Fastway footpegs. A mere bargain at $268. I mean, really. What do these people think? That this is the 1950's when everybody still had good paying middle class jobs? Motorcycles used to be a working man's thing. Nowadays it's a rich man's toy.

[@michaelkirik]

Did you need to buy anything any of the cables to put in the raiser mounts from the video?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

No, stock cables

[@mollygrubber]

My wife is only about 5'-2" (1.57m) and wants a "mighty DR" BADLY lol. If we do the aforementioned lowering mods, and shave the seat, do you think we'd still need lowering links? She's not a hooligan rider , won't be jumping at ALL if I have anything to say about it (which I don't, of course). Thanks for this brilliant series, I will be sending a few dollars to aid the cause. Appreciate your hard work!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Peter Jowett i'm sort of the other end of the scale and freakishly tall, peter.... so not too sure. as far as i know it's the lowest of bikes with a decent engine size, you'd only get lower by going to around 200cc or less. i'm sure she would get her feet on the ground at least, and then it would be just judging if the weight isn't too much. if she's an experienced rider already then that wouldn't be a problem! there are lots of threads around too like this one: www.thumpertalk.com/topic/962006-dr650-how-low-can-she-go/

[@mollygrubber]

+ADVENTURE OZ I'll give it a look, thanks for the input, Barry.

[@zero716]

Have you found yourself wanting the lowered and backed up footpegs mounts over the standard lowered ones? You're a bit taller than me, so I'm trying to decide which route to go. Thanks!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

covered in detail in this series, steven

[@zero716]

I know you said you were ok with the standard ones at the time. I was wondering if you'd changed your mind since then.

[@richmoto1]

Great job. You didn't cover pivot pegs. What do you think of them? We love 'em!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+richmoto1 i couldn't really seeing them having that much benefit for adventure riding given most riders wouldn't be shifting their weight forward and back they way dirt riders would, richmoto.... what are your thoughts?

[@richmoto1]

+ADVENTURE OZ They are excellent for shifting and braking while standing, especially for those who like to stand up wheelie, ha!

[@andrewstambaugh240]

I just bought a used 2012 DR with pivot pegs. I think it's going to help make it easier to improve my weightless rider technique. Also, I prefer more flexible adventure style boots that don't use a brick for a sole. The flexible pegs immediately seemed nicer for that, as it spreads the weight out when angling my foot. I've only just got the bike, but my early impression is pivot pegs will now be a go to for me.

[@HSKY412]

You mention your new seat is a bit lower than stock. As a taller rider, wouldn't you prefer a tall seat? Is there any downside to a taller seat?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

all comes down to personal preference i guess, jack

[@authentic4225]

What degree angle flexx handlebars do you suggest?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I wanted them with the least 'sweep' back toward the rider e.g. as straight as possible. The DR650 bar mounts already angle the bars back toward the rider too much.

[@MaggotDiggo1]

I wanted to do the $6 windscreen mod but I can't find a bit of plastic that's the right size and price. A large plastic bin sure as hell isn't $6 in Australia.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

i know, i had to pay $10 :(

[@MaggotDiggo1]

Where? They were $40 at my local Bunning's and not large enough. Also, is it not being transparent a problem?

[@leeeng478]

I think I will just get a KLR seems already set up and it has a 6 gallon tank!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

if doing mainly highway and easy dirt roads it's probably a better choice for many. but plan on doing some rougher stuff then the DR could be better for quite a few reasons... especially being a lot lighter.

[@andrewturner9520]

where did you get the shims for the risers,did the come with them or can you get them separate?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Andrew Turner if you get the pivot risers that suit both narrow and fast bars, the shims are included

[@andrewturner9520]

Do yo know where to get handle bar shims from?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Andrew Turner no but they'd be out there somewhere

[@twistygrip4180]

My mother doesn't have a brother. Sorry I couldn't help. Love the videos though!

[@angelocardoc]

Your convincing me to get a DR650 bush-pig.......

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Review Guru if they sell the honda XR650L in your country check that out first. it may actually be a better bike from what i've read but it's not available down under. :(

[@angelocardoc]

+ADVENTURE OZ The XR650L is available here and I have considered it but I'm still leaning towards the DR650. Probably from your videos. Don't know what dual sport I'll get but 'tough as nails reliability', comfort, light weight and torque is what I'm looking for. Currently looking at a gently used 07' Husqvarna TE450. Not keen on non-Japanese products, so this guys got to drop for me to fork out my hard earned dough.

[@DustySquitoNM]

This isn't as much of an extra tip, but as an owner of a DR650 with a Corbin seat, they're a weird buy. It's super wide and boxy on the edges, so it feels like it's cutting into your thighs everything you stand up. Also, it's rock hard. Every time I sit on my bike, I think my seat is just mildly uncomfortable. However, at the end of a 700 mile day on the DR, I still only felt "mildly uncomfortable,' so I guess all that extra width and support pays off.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+dustysquito we picked the procycle seat partly because it was the cheapest, but also it wouldn't feel weird when standing up. but as you say, that extra width must pay off if sitting on the bike all day...

[@Andriig75]

Seat Concepts, cures all that. $169 US

[@kyecowen4583]

how tall do you consider tall? Im 5'11" I have JNS lowering foot pegs and that felt great for the last couple months besides being hunched over. Just put the same risers on that you have in the vid and it feels so different im not sure yet if its too much yet, still have some tweaking to do for sure but my first impression is that its too tall when sitting for riding offroad

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Hard to say what 'tall' is, Kye. Maybe anything over your height? Not sure whether you'd need the risers or not although most tallish riders agree the bars need to be further forward... if not higher.

[@kyecowen4583]

@@crosstrainingadventure now I’ll have to live the rest of my life knowing I’m not tall 😂 think I’ll try the offset 1” risers by Rox speed next

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Sounds like a plan, Kye! Hopefully moving the bars forward but not too high will make the difference.

[@neilw5198]

with so much time and money going into the upgrades wouldnt it be easier to buy a ktm. How much all up did the mods cost? . And at the end does it ride better than a ktm?...im sure it is more reliable.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Neil W the DR650 is almost half the price, so even if you completely overboard it will be cheaper. but a lot of these mods can be done very cheaply or with home made gear.... generally $1500 can transform the DR if you are on a budget. i owned a ktm 690 and the suspension on those needs a lot of work too to make them work properly... when both are set up properly i'd say the handling is very similar.

[@johnmcguinness7919]

I have me a moose racing sear on my DR650. Why the hell anyone would wanna race a moose I dont know, but hey, they are yanks, so anything is possible. My mechanic was pretty impressed with it and calls it my 'lounge chair' all I know is I have a 4 hour seat and a 4 hour fuel range so Im smiling.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+John McGuinness racing mooses.... :D i did see that one and figured if you were doing a lot of highways that would be awesome, john. but the cheaper pro cycle seat has done the trick given we aren't sitting for too long on our rides and the it's streamlined enough for standing on the pegs a lot.

[@chrisa-j5383]

Why is this video unlisted?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Chris A-J because i made another public only yesterday. this one will be made public tomorrow.

[@thatstyte]

Just bought a 2017 in October. I'm 5'5" with a 27" inseam. I had to raise the bars straight away (stock bar was absurd, even just for hard corners on pavement), and I'm already looking into peg lowering after some long crampy rides... what I'm getting at is, if I'm not, who is short enough for the stock dr650? Get it together Suzuki

[@Andriig75]

I'm 5'7", bought an '03 lowered. Took it for a test ride, and the bike resisted turning. Bought it anyway, it was dirt cheap, I guess the guy selling it didn't know what he had. First thing I did was restore it to the original height, and it became a ballerina. That's all it took. Six years later with a lot of'sensible' mods and I don't think I'll ever sell it. 0 problems, of course I did the neutral sensor screw fix, 68k miles later. But you're right, you need a new bar, bar risers, peg lowers and of course the seat. Seat Concepts, cheap and very good

[@pb8582]

So procycle is the go for the foot pegs???

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Huge range of foot pegs on offer, depends on what you are chasing, Pierre. And how much you want to spend. And whether you want to lower the pegs. Or move them to the rear as well. Procycle stocks quite a few of them, I'd suggest always checking directly and see if it's cheaper from the manufacturer. I haven't decided on foot pegs yet, but I'm using lowering mounts from this group: www.knightdesignllc.com/

[@pb8582]

@@crosstrainingadventure I just can't shift my bloody gear! Never had issue with a yz250 with mx boots but the dr seems absolutely impossible with my size 11 and formula boots... Very frustrating so I'm thinking about lower them a bit!

[@pb8582]

@@crosstrainingadventure wow those lowering mount looks like the dream and you still get 22mm less without any foot pegs modification I'm only 5.10 or 180cm I'll give this a go!!! Thanks!

[@sheepdog819]

Links to the foot pegs for taller riders?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

In the video description

[@sheepdog819]

@@crosstrainingadventure procycle.us/product/1199

[@4x4junkie86]

this is amazing how this bike has transformed but i have to ask.. why the hell doesnt the bike come like this from suzuki..

[@crosstrainingadventure]

apparently the moment they do any non-cosmetic changes they'd have to meet all the latest pollution regs etc.... whole engine would need a redesign. 😥

[@4x4junkie86]

@@crosstrainingadventure so this bike will probably go the way of the KLR.. not that i really care because im not a fan of it, especially in stock form, but the KLR i am, im sad about that. i just cant seem to find an entry level dual sport adventure bike as good as the KLR or as cheap

[@hiltonmcconnell2563]

Why would you want to put a wind screen on that bike, there is no better feeling than the wind on you chest, I like it when the wind is blowing 50 to 80 km and ride straight in to it doing 80 or 90 Km what a great feeling, Just remember to use your guts to hold you up not your arms. I could remember living 102 Km from work and the wind blowing straight up the highway all the way to work and then 10 hr later on the way home the wind would be blowing down the highway so a good wind in my face both ways. loved that ride. I did find the seat hard at first but after about 2,000 km it was just fine. I am only 5' 9" so the bike fit pretty good, But when my new one comes I will be looking for better food pegs, also good bark buster hand guards, heated grips for cold weather we get hear in Canada, and some mounting racks for my trekker side bags 33 Lt,and top box mount 46 liters.and a center stand for easy chain maintenance. and a bash plate, Boxes on for touring and shopping and off for dirt toads and trails. Also love the DR 650 on the windy roads this will be my 3 DR the first was the 600 kick start only, and the second the Dr 650 and the new one a 2020 DR 650 it is sitting on the show room floor just waiting for the accessories to come in, want every thing on when I pick it up.

[@17hmr243]

credit cards payed off and closed the account- i see a 650 in my future soon :D

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Gummy Bear congrats gummy bear, those credit cards can be a nasty business. a good mate of mine finally knocked hers off but a year later she went on an overseas trip and she's maxed out on them again. :(

[@17hmr243]

all good here i hope 3rd time the charm. if you keep me motivated on the dr650 should be fine :D biggest thing was closing the account they begged me not to, guess this cash cows is buying a bike in cash

[@17hmr243]

thanks helps you sleep better too :D

[@1969cmp]

Why isn't the XR650L sold in Oz ?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

None of us knows why. A very very stupid decision on Honda's part and the DR650 has sold like hotcakes ever since. 😒

[@1969cmp]

@@crosstrainingadventure ...the XR would be ideal for riding to work and a bit more harder enduro/cross country without paying KTM500EXC money.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

And it could be everything the KTM 690 tried to be... and much cheaper and more reliable.

[@1969cmp]

@@crosstrainingadventure ...the XR600 (now 650) was a capable Finke weapon for a budget rider.

[@motomax13]

Is this bike worth it over all?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+motomax if you like cheap bikes and tinkering to turn it into something special it's a dream come true. if you are all cashed up and want a bike that doesn't need tinkering then you probably won't.

[@motomax13]

+Survival Pax dr650 or drz400?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Survival Pax i've had three DR650s and three DRZ400s too. there's a lot of overlap between them, obviously the DR650 is more on the adventure side, the DRZ is closer to the dirt bike side of things. my idea of heaven would be either get the DR650 down closer to the DRZ's weight, or bore and stroke the DRZ to maybe 530cc for extra grunt. sweet!

[@Joburble]

+motomax IMO, yes. The DR650SE is a great bike. It is still the only bike that I would not hesitate to buy another one of if I somehow destroyed my current one. I love all my other bikes, but the DR650 loves me back. It is quite a humourous bike to ride if you push it and just leaves a smile on your dial as it does its best to comply with your wishes. It is generally as reliable as a hammer and if something does go wrong you can normally fix it at the side of the road with a spoon. On some other bikes you have to pay thousands of dollars more for ABS and TC, but not on this bike, it comes standard. The brakes won't let you lock up the front on the blacktop (ABS), and the rear won't break loose unless there are very special circumstances (TC). No need for Honda's HISS security system either as the Suzuki DR650 is its own anti-theft device (especially in the grey). I never have to check to make sure the antifreeze is topped up and I never have to worry about the fuel injection or the fuel pump giving up the ghost while in the middle of nowhere. Great fuel economy too. What more could you want :-)

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Joburble fit it with a spoon.... lol. a very good summary of why many of us love the bushpig joburble.

[@user-zn8su4eb5p]

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[@sumakjuly16]

Can just imagine that baby's feet frying on the exhaust

[@slurmitshighlyaddictive5641]

the DR650 doesnt seem worth it if the bike needs a laundry list of pricey mods to get the ergos right

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+Slurm its highly addictive the key to good ergos is usually just risers and lowering plates for the footpegs which isn't too expensive... everything else is just fine tuning which would occur for most bikes. but if you are in the usa then the XR650L is still sold there and if the ergos are better on that bike then it's probably a better proposition.

[@frogzie]

So you've lost the 1/3 of your subscribers who know they are boring, keeping the 2/3 who do not know it!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

+frogzie that's the plan....

[@frogzie]

+ADVENTURE OZ Lost your one-thumb-down admirer in the process!? So s/he knew she was boring! (but I still don't know I am).

[@eriii276]

what the duck is that music. screeching through my speekers

[@Tirikitaon]

you love the suzuki, yet is there any part you have not changed??? the tank , footpegs, the handlebar , the seat an so on .....maybe you should not buy this bike since you will spend more money buying all the parts from diferent manufacturers , wait longer , save a little more money and buy something you dona have to be changing all the time....

[@crosstrainingadventure]

but it's a project... e.g. aiming to show the changes you can make if you want. and if you choose the cheap options it doesn't cost much still. the only comparable bike is probably the SWM 650 or the AJP PR7 which are still around $3000 more. 1

[@WuKuVex]

Felipe Dude, half the fun of all things of motorcycles IS the peronal customization of your bike and making it look nice!

[@Tirikitaon]

I agree but when the budget is tight, ehhh

[@WuKuVex]

@@Tirikitaon actually you got a point right there bud :D im all too familiar with that problem

[@C0PED0GG]

Biggest overrated motorcycle ever. Awesome Great bike but highly overrated. Good luck with the highly priced mods, hopefully people have a garage full of tools to maintain it. 😅

[@crosstrainingadventure]

'Awesome Great bike but highly overrated'... sounds a bit contradictory. 😊 I'm stunned at the money some guys spend on mods but they usually enjoy the process, I guess. But there's a pile of free or cheap mods for most of the issues. Plus I ride with three guys who have bought 690s or 701s who have all spent over $2000 trying to get the suspension to work. Then more for comfortable seats, big tanks, engine protection, aftermarket exhausts...