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Fantasy Football with Josh & Hayden

Fantasy Football with Josh & Hayden

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@rohinm.
@rohinm. 3 ай бұрын
“draft good players on good teams” josh we heard you lead the miles sanders agenda last year 😭, all love
@bubblehulk7647
@bubblehulk7647 3 ай бұрын
Must have learned his lesson lol
@So_pho_king_awesome
@So_pho_king_awesome 3 ай бұрын
I did because I listened and picked up Miles Samders😂😂😂
@Thought_Criminal_13
@Thought_Criminal_13 3 ай бұрын
Hahahaha these channels contradict itself one day to the next
@tybones2222
@tybones2222 3 ай бұрын
Any analysis on Miles sanders being above replacement level as a runner?
@awesomedeadman
@awesomedeadman 3 ай бұрын
@@tybones2222my analysis was that he was replaced as a runner mid season
@78town
@78town 3 ай бұрын
Yall should do an analysis of WR 1s on bottom 10 offenses vs WR2s on top 10 offenses 👀
@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz
@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz 3 ай бұрын
I've done some general stuff, and It just seems that a 1 if they are the talent will be a better bet then a 2 because the best 2 tends to top out at 15-20. The pass happy, Elite QB and no big inj. will translate that those top 2's are safe strong plays especially on off/inj weeks for the 1. But when you have a Herbert/Tua/Baker with clear #1's I don't think it's even close. There's so many variables when you get away from the top top pos. players on teams that going with eye test athletes, who have an elite QB, on a strong team is the right way to go a lot of the time. Or else you just aren't playing the %'s. Guys who haven't been injury prone also is a thing.
@dlansman
@dlansman Ай бұрын
Interesting thought but I can only think of a few WR2s I would want want over a team's primary WR. But it all comes down to targets. Diggs, Puka, Waddle, Deebo/Aiyuk, Higgins.
@DylanWolfram14
@DylanWolfram14 3 ай бұрын
This tells me that Saquon is going to be a monster because he’s finally on a good team
@JoshandHayden
@JoshandHayden 3 ай бұрын
I like how you think
@codythomssen9337
@codythomssen9337 3 ай бұрын
IF he stays healthy and thats always a question for saquon. If he does then he will probably smash
@p3rp351
@p3rp351 3 ай бұрын
Two words: tush push
@MrMinionMoney
@MrMinionMoney 3 ай бұрын
When was the last time an eagles runner had double digit tds? Edit: eagles running back* not runner
@DylanWolfram14
@DylanWolfram14 3 ай бұрын
@@MrMinionMoney when was the last time the Lions had a good RB? I remember that being an argument against Lions RBs for a long time. The Eagles haven’t had a player like Saquon at RB since LeShaun McCoy and he was a MONSTER for fantasy. Won me my first championship.
@rkbelmont1138
@rkbelmont1138 3 ай бұрын
So you're saying we should not draft the Panthers WR3.
@matthewkaley9311
@matthewkaley9311 3 ай бұрын
This has some merit but it’s also why Stroud Nico and Tank were such big wins last year because people didn’t expect Texans to be an elite offense last year and they were
@nvvnosodghasildga
@nvvnosodghasildga 3 ай бұрын
Ya I agree, people forget how competitive the NFL is, Stroud now has a year of tape for all teams to watch, I think the whole offense takes a step back in a sophomore slump. Not that they will be bad but not as good as last year.
@indexofsuspicion
@indexofsuspicion 3 ай бұрын
You can lead a horse to water and they’ll still tell you about Gabe Davis’ upside 😭
@DP-gb8qu
@DP-gb8qu 3 ай бұрын
Calling someone that is 6’2 220lbs tiny is wild ( Gibson )
@barrybands3897
@barrybands3897 3 ай бұрын
Chubba also not tiny at all
@linooliva3965
@linooliva3965 3 ай бұрын
I’m troubled I find myself with a lot of late round mostert
@Wall_BANG
@Wall_BANG 3 ай бұрын
I think the Jets will be in the low volume quadrant. Between their elite defense and Rodgers being notorious for slow pace of play, I think they'll be closer to where the Dolphins, Bengals and Packer cluster is.
@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz
@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz 3 ай бұрын
The entire NFL only avg's 10 play/game diff. between top & bottom of the league, so the slow play doesn't matter much compared to other stats.
@lmq9516
@lmq9516 2 ай бұрын
Rodger’s showed regression his last year in Green Bay and is coming off a torn Achilles at 40 years old and playing in an offense with one of the worst play callers in the league. Don’t know why people think this Jets team is all of a sudden just going to become a juggernaut.
@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz
@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz 2 ай бұрын
@@lmq9516 Regression....the whole team was the regression, he carried them to where they went. Definitely not a fan of the play caller or even the coaches but the Defense is stacked! And if Breece, Garrett and Mike williams stay healthy their scary! I'm a Vikings fan so I'd much rather talk about him getting flattened but not sure if that's reality. Aaron tore his Achilles and was back in 3 months he's built different.
@So_pho_king_awesome
@So_pho_king_awesome 3 ай бұрын
Could you please provide projected team points graph from before and after 2023 season? Just curious
@jeremynitta1449
@jeremynitta1449 3 ай бұрын
We’re hyping Houston a ton, but when is the last time an offense sustained 3 top… 25 WRs? Indy had Harrison, Wayne and Stokley in 04, Arizona had Fitzgerald, Boldin and Breaston in 08, and recently Minnesota had Jefferson, Addison and Hock in 23, NE had Edelman, Gronk and LaFell in 19, and NO has Graham, Colston and Moore in 12. Stroud might be able to with Collins, Dell and Diggs, but I’m just saying it doesn’t happen often and it’s more likely they just all limit each others ceiling
@jahprime6932
@jahprime6932 3 ай бұрын
This is not always the case. The best argument that comes to mind is the Bortles, Hurns, Alan Robinson trio. Yolo offenses on bad teams with a bad defense are fantasy gold.
@man-zm3lj
@man-zm3lj 3 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video or just comment this after looking at the title
@jahprime6932
@jahprime6932 3 ай бұрын
@man-zm3lj just commented after seeing the title. Nah, these guys do a good job. I wasn't downing their work, just more so throwing out advice. I'm particularly fond of that team because that was my first fantasy season. They were gold! Lol
@flerbus
@flerbus 2 ай бұрын
@@man-zm3lj they shouldn't have picked a ridiculous title if they didn't want knee jerk comments or maybe they did it on purpose (genius) either way, the concept is preposterous fantasy history is full of bad teams with great qb/wr hookups and you can't say,.. oh they weren't a bad team you have to decide who to draft before they play the season, not after the results are in
@man-zm3lj
@man-zm3lj 2 ай бұрын
@@flerbus did you watch the video or just comment this after looking at the tittle
@flerbus
@flerbus 2 ай бұрын
@@man-zm3lj looked at the title, watched a little, wasn't worth my time to continue took the time to comment, but will not subscribe because of poor quality content
@ztreggs
@ztreggs 3 ай бұрын
Might I interest you in 6 targets a game for Antonio Gibson?
@KyleCowgur
@KyleCowgur 2 ай бұрын
Derick Henry never makes it to round 3. These guys always are a round behind the ADP
@seanm3189
@seanm3189 Ай бұрын
Because u don’t draft in underdog. They talk in terms of the site they use. They argue the people on their site draft more accurately than any other site and they are probably right
@gabrielglenn1714
@gabrielglenn1714 Ай бұрын
Love the gameplay view from behind the offensive team you showed with Breece Hall. Where can we find that tie of footage? Thanks
@MegaJusWright
@MegaJusWright Ай бұрын
A. K as the 17 th . Great value. Just say thank you
@JeffNighswander
@JeffNighswander 2 ай бұрын
Yes and no. Draft good players on good teams in the early rounds, but later draft good players on bad teams. Draft the players the teams are depending on. Good players on good teams sometimes do well, but most good teams are well rounded teams. Bad teams tend to depend too much on certain players giving them all their fantasy points. Think of Aman Ra St-Brown his rookie year. He was a good fantasy player, but the Lions were 3-13. Fantasy Football is simple, it's about individual achievement. It's not about how well teams do, but yeah it's also smart to draft good players on good teams in the early rounds. Later in the draft though look for good players on bad teams.
@HH-fu1pe
@HH-fu1pe 2 ай бұрын
great data, include top 16 OLs (PPG/OL/Wins) and see how the list is reduced.
@jvo3777
@jvo3777 3 ай бұрын
J Love is QB1. Tough to take any of his WRs or TEs, but there are so many weapons to spread the ball to and no narcissistic headcases to deal with.
@billysickles284
@billysickles284 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for confirming my priors and heavy bag on Charbonnet
@TFFForecast
@TFFForecast 3 ай бұрын
Josh's underground cave is goated
@LJMDurham
@LJMDurham 3 ай бұрын
Great charts!
@Jokenword
@Jokenword 3 ай бұрын
Timing of this video is funny I told myself im not touching a Steeler, Bronco, Pats or Giants player this year…
@jameswainwright8800
@jameswainwright8800 2 ай бұрын
Best video I've seen you guys do, thanks
@jasonbigelow1403
@jasonbigelow1403 3 ай бұрын
You comment on NE WR being too low… I think you had the same comment last year with Juju.
@MikeLong-nj1jv
@MikeLong-nj1jv 2 ай бұрын
“Keep it simple”? “I predict that if Johnathan Taylor scores more PPR points than any other RB, he is guaranteed to have more PPR points than any RB in the entire league!”
@barrybands3897
@barrybands3897 3 ай бұрын
It’s really hard to envision a top 5 fantasy outcome for a guy like Josh Jacobs. LaFleur has always used a multi-back system, it’s a leap of faith to think Jacobs can get there on efficiency.
@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928
@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928 26 күн бұрын
With Dillon out for the season, and the rookie having hamstring issues, jacobs will easily get 75% of the work. You also don’t think LaFleur realizes that Jacobs thrives on volume? I don’t think they would take him in if they weren’t planning to run him.
@ElectrikNYCfunK
@ElectrikNYCfunK 3 ай бұрын
Lol as a Jets fan, I'm staying far away from C.Sutton if he gets Zachypoo. I don't care if he has 100 targets, he could have 20rec.
@JA_110
@JA_110 3 ай бұрын
Keep the disgusting charts hayden, we love em
@dlansman
@dlansman Ай бұрын
Get this: Zamir White feels like the next Alexander Mattison. Raiders RB2? Alexander Mattison.
@knownking15
@knownking15 3 ай бұрын
Like always, money analysis!
@charlessmith2176
@charlessmith2176 3 ай бұрын
I got a feeling that WR’s are being overvalued this season… ESPECIALLY in Best Ball tournaments. I’m building optimal teams while dudes are going crazy at WR and neglecting every other position. People are going to get their head bust banking on this “strategy”. I’m projected the highest in every league so far with only 1 player in each league coming remotely close. Good luck this season y’all🤙
@nateunderhill1845
@nateunderhill1845 3 ай бұрын
Who's gonna tell him..
@charlessmith2176
@charlessmith2176 3 ай бұрын
@@nateunderhill1845 you can’t tell me anything that I already don’t know. Every year is different and just because something worked last year doesn’t mean it’s the same this year. I remember years ago Hero RB was the Meta. I don’t care who you are, 9-10 WRs is excessive and that’s what I’ve been seeing.
@nateunderhill1845
@nateunderhill1845 3 ай бұрын
@@charlessmith2176 I am more referencing that being projected the highest means very little, especially in a large tourney like BBM. I find the highest projected are often the teams that spent too much capital at QB. But I agree that multiple strategies are viable. I personally think it will be hard to win something like BBM without going fairly heavy at WR, because late RBs are more likely to explode weeks 15-17 than late WRs, but I also appreciate you can win using any strategy. Mainly was referring to the projections meaning little when the goal is top .0001% and they don't factor in team construction or the handful of late RBs every year that shatter their price tag. If you look at the top RB scorers from weeks 15-17 each year, there are many more late round guys than if you look at the same list for WRs.
@joshe.8751
@joshe.8751 2 ай бұрын
Projections are always highest for the team that drafts the most QBs. All this says is that you usually draft 3 QBs. Sorry :/
@tonysprocket937
@tonysprocket937 3 ай бұрын
Stanford Andrew Luck 2010
@bensonj.7924
@bensonj.7924 3 ай бұрын
Where is the link to see the most projected team points?
@thehabitof885
@thehabitof885 3 ай бұрын
Haden takes no prisoners 😂
@joecampbell2496
@joecampbell2496 Ай бұрын
This idiom doesn’t work simply because of availability at the most crucial time. The best teams run the risk of CLINCHING early; thus, come week 18, a.k.a. our FF SUOERBOWL, might find a 15 win Ravens team sitting Lamar, Henry, and Andrews, and anyone who road them all year to regular season success loses the big one. Backups are gold, and need to be from a team still chasing postseason so all their studs are on the field in week 18.
@HH-fu1pe
@HH-fu1pe 2 ай бұрын
Hey guys, are you not concerned about Seattle's aweful OL?
@bkvalue
@bkvalue 3 ай бұрын
Why didn’t I think of that?!?!?!?!!?
@jensvold415
@jensvold415 3 ай бұрын
I’m literally only taking players with good OC’s or smart offensive HC’s. All the QBs get hurt now, you need a coaching staff that can still cook things up. Also, fading Chiefs, they’re playing for January.
@AreYouAfraidoftheLight
@AreYouAfraidoftheLight 2 ай бұрын
The claim DJ Moore finished as 10th 35:35 final ranking in fantasy points for 2023 baffles me. I’m on the sleeper app right now and it shows him as finishing as 6th in both half PPR and full PPR. What gives?
@JoshandHayden
@JoshandHayden 2 ай бұрын
Look at points per game. Not total points.
@teecee4459
@teecee4459 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes people take that concept too far though. It's not really a good idea to take a #2 WR over a #1 WR regardless of what teams they are on.
@cheesesteak22
@cheesesteak22 2 ай бұрын
So, DK Metcalf over Cooper Kupp? I find myself having a choice between these two in mock drafts. 🤔
@tannerw5011
@tannerw5011 2 ай бұрын
i find myself leaning waddle over guys like london mhj and nico
@Steve-td5xu
@Steve-td5xu 3 ай бұрын
why don't you give the stats for players performance moving to a new team where the coach was his old coach from that other team
@DylanWolfram14
@DylanWolfram14 3 ай бұрын
How do I know if they are going to be good? The Texans were supposed to be horrible. The Jets were supposed to be great!
@JoshandHayden
@JoshandHayden 3 ай бұрын
That’s why we brought up projected team points and suggested teams that might be surprise Top 10!
@DylanWolfram14
@DylanWolfram14 3 ай бұрын
@@JoshandHaydenlove it! Im banking on the Seahawks, Colts and Saints to improve for my Metcalf, JT, Olave stock
@Joel_Aleman
@Joel_Aleman 3 ай бұрын
The jags scoring 16th. Idk that seems a bit high.
@Steve-td5xu
@Steve-td5xu 3 ай бұрын
Don't you remember Barry Sanders and Detroit OJ Simpson and the bills
@maccsauce8816
@maccsauce8816 3 ай бұрын
JUNE 26TH, FT. MIKE "PRISON MIKE" CLAY. CAN'T FUCKING WAIT. ONE FOR THE BOOKS!
@ALFAJERKBFH
@ALFAJERKBFH 3 ай бұрын
18:40 I'm gonna keep it simple. I'll draft Z White, because he's going to get heavy volume with no threat of his job being taken And I'm going to avoid Conner, because from what I just saw, Benson looks 10 times better.
@tallonmavracic9673
@tallonmavracic9673 3 ай бұрын
Just be careful because we just saw this same thing play out with his new backup in Alexander mattison where he took over for cook had plenty of volume and looked rough.
@kujaneck
@kujaneck 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget about laube! He looks elite! Don't sleep on him!
@michaelavery4427
@michaelavery4427 Ай бұрын
Chicken or the egg. Kinda a silly topic
@mannyfresh1287
@mannyfresh1287 3 ай бұрын
VIDEO SUGGESTION: Explain why ppl like Courtland Sutton broke your model and make some predictions for model breakers for 2024
@JoshandHayden
@JoshandHayden 3 ай бұрын
You will like a video later this week
@mtmrevolt
@mtmrevolt 3 ай бұрын
of the 2 rushing tds james cook had, the one vs mia josh was going to keep the handoff and ended up tackling cook from behind so he'd actually cross the plane. let the rz usage idea for him go
@joeduke8239
@joeduke8239 3 ай бұрын
But for fantasy, those "garbage points" at the end of games count just as much as any other points.
@TheAliasGaming
@TheAliasGaming 3 ай бұрын
Feels hard to swallow the Dallas pill given that Dak had a career year with 4500yards and 36 TDs, and yet beyond CeeDee Lamb, there wasn't much fantasy relevance to be had. It's hard to imagine how that's possible and yet it kinda was. Michael Gallup is gone but he only had 400 yards. If you add all 400 to Cooks maybe he hits, but it's two years in a row with sub 700 yards for him. Might just be a case where Lamb has a big year or the offense takes a step back. Buffalo feels like the same boat. Allen didn't light the world on fire passing-wise, and that was with Diggs (1100) and Davis (700). Given that Kincaid is the most likely candidate to lead the team in targets, it feels like their extremely ambiguous WR room is priced where it should be, no? Doesn't seem far off from the Ravens, who didn't produce a top option at these positions. Mobile quarterback buoying an offense with a good TE and a gadget WR (Zay/Samuel). Just seems like they're equally likely to take a step back in terms of passing game production as they are to produce a breakout hit other than Kincaid. I feel pounding the table too hard for those teams is missing the "good players" part of the good players on good teams philosophy. The Chiefs I would agree there is tangible value being left at those prices, given that sheer variance could see their numbers actually bounce back up, whereas Dallas and Buffalo are already starting at high numbers with lesser players trying to recreate even those.
@vidalrodriguez2001
@vidalrodriguez2001 3 ай бұрын
I feel like Jake Ferguson is getting slept on in that there is potential for him to have a strong, substantial role in the offense with potential for a large target share. I don't think Cooks, Zeke, and Tolbert will cave out large enough roles to leave Ferguson with crumbs, they'll continue to air it out like they did last year and score points at a top 10 offensive clip. There's only so much of the ball Ceedee can get, Ferguson is a young TE too, athletic enough to be a play extender and has good TD upside. To say he's not relevant enough to do well in-season, and potentially in the playoffs, I think is incorrect. The Cowboys also have a friendly playoff schedule as well.
@TheAliasGaming
@TheAliasGaming 3 ай бұрын
@@vidalrodriguez2001 yeah Ferguson was good last year and might be even better this year, but that’s at TE. Totally different conversation and threshold you gotta hit to make a difference. This vid was talking about WRs and RBs, and how they correlate to top offenses. Dallas might be a top offense, but I think how that translates to fantasy falls off a cliff after CeeDee and Ferguson, and ADP accurately reflects that for a reason
@vidalrodriguez2001
@vidalrodriguez2001 3 ай бұрын
@@TheAliasGaming making a difference in making the playoffs/advancing further? He's a part of the equation of the passing game in Dallas, that's why I mention him. I think he's a good value where he's going, a few rounds after the very elite TE’s go when he has potential to keep you well positioned at TE compared to a Goedert, Kmet, or Schultz later on. It doesn't look like any late round TE will be worth as much as LaPorta or McBride were last year. I view Ferguson as a very viable, relative bargain of a TE with playoff upside. With the question marks surrounding the Cowboys, what helps them is that they still have a good continuity regarding their players, compared to a Buffalo. Cooks is a vet, Zeke has been with the team all his career, but one year, they will be able to maximize him for whatever that is worth and there's a very clearly defined role for him. Ferguson is a 3rd-year TE who I believe will continue to get more comfortable with Dak and grow his role. The biggest question marks are low cost picks like Dowdle and Tolbert. I think Dowdle is worth his price point and can be a value. I highly doubt he's a crash-out candidate and will have a solid, split-backfield role with Zeke
@dustinkeith1274
@dustinkeith1274 3 ай бұрын
Jahmyr Gibbs video
@MegaJusWright
@MegaJusWright Ай бұрын
He’ll never be top 5 again but top 15 all day. Maybe even top ten
@Stacethegreat112
@Stacethegreat112 2 ай бұрын
You never take a bills rb
@davyannajones
@davyannajones 2 ай бұрын
Pacheco is not going to be there in round 4 & 5 in 12 man leagues
@davyannajones
@davyannajones 2 ай бұрын
The way y’all keep fading Diggs is going to come back to haunt you.
@MisterH1984
@MisterH1984 Ай бұрын
You gotta think bigger. Their strategy might make them miss on diggs but will have them miss on a bunch of other bums and hit on more predictably good players.
@DipDip65
@DipDip65 3 ай бұрын
bots are here
@Sealutions1
@Sealutions1 23 күн бұрын
i see lots of junk yards and check down receptions from the crap offensive teams....
@Wandelio
@Wandelio 3 ай бұрын
King Henry comeback season
@Jdruyo
@Jdruyo 3 ай бұрын
first comment
@brentinnes5151
@brentinnes5151 3 ай бұрын
taking London at the price you have to have balls of pure steel and or a bloody idiot....ps leave Olave and DK alone
@gabrielglenn1714
@gabrielglenn1714 Ай бұрын
Love the gameplay view from behind the offensive team you showed with Breece Hall. Where can we find that tie of footage? Thanks
@MegaJusWright
@MegaJusWright Ай бұрын
The truth is fantasy champions are usually the team’s that have one of the top 3 players from a point perspective
@aarondavis1263
@aarondavis1263 3 ай бұрын
I like the draft logic but I can definitely tell you guys do not do enough homework on the lower tier teams in the league. Chubba Hubbard for example is set up for a great year and while the panthers are not a top ten team they have the easiest schedule in the league. He’s a high-end RB2 lock.
@brian7333
@brian7333 3 ай бұрын
See How Diggs is separating and catching in pre-season. Please report back.
@FlatulentFF
@FlatulentFF 3 ай бұрын
47:26 you sure about that??
@CryptoGrady
@CryptoGrady 3 ай бұрын
🔥🔥
@John-mq6us
@John-mq6us 3 ай бұрын
(Love the content) Need bench help and advice, 12team 2flx 1QB dynasty. Starters, Kyler Murray , breece hall, Travis etienne, aj brown, garret wilson, trey McBride, Chris olave, drake London. Bench- Justin Herbert, Zack moss, Dalton Shultz, Marvin Harrison, pick 2.07. Offseason and the draft hasn’t happened yet, that’s why the bench is light. We get 7 bench spots. Should I make trades now or wait for the off season to make moves/trades. I want better bench pieces but idk what to do for trades. Any suggestions?
@linooliva3965
@linooliva3965 3 ай бұрын
Bruh who the fuck were you drafting against bots?
@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz
@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz 3 ай бұрын
2 or 3 team league?...😅
@John-mq6us
@John-mq6us 3 ай бұрын
@@FodgatherOfFootballNFantasyz 12 team 2flex 1QB dynasty
@DerultimateKeks
@DerultimateKeks 3 ай бұрын
Playing against elementary kids?
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